Fantasy Baseball

[lethal]

Spring training's starting...anyone want to play fantasy baseball?

Any suggestions on which site? Yahoo runs a free league, some other places make you pay.

There are several scoring options. Roto league, points league, head to head play, etc...live draft or list draft?

I'm open to any and all, but I'd prefer a roto league with a live draft.

We probably want 10 players.

Who wants in???

[deez nuts]

I'm down.

[rakovlam]

I'm cool... and I shall own all. I won my Yahoo public league last season.

[achtungbaby]

I'm in.

[lethal]

Alright...4 so far..

Baseball's my game...yahoo public leagues are hit and miss...lots of guys drop after they're out of it 2 months in...

Handle 10 keeper teams a year in 14 team leagues with live drafts...

I shall dominate...muah muah muah!!!

[kangal]

count me in....i won TWENTY bucks last year....that oughtta put the fear of god into some of you =)

[deez nuts]

I'm gonna get p'0wned.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

A lotta my friends like to do this kinda stuff on Yahoo...how does this work exactly?

P.S. I apologize for all the BS posts lately, once I hit Mafia my mission here will be finished and I can change my title to 'Flying Pastries' so I'll just stop or stagnate after that... :P

[ism]

Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Feb 16 2003, 06:50 PM
A lotta my friends like to do this kinda stuff on Yahoo...how does this work exactly?

P.S. I apologize for all the BS posts lately, once I hit Mafia my mission here will be finished and I can change my title to 'Flying Pastries' so I'll just stop or stagnate after that... :P
It is a game based on statistics, and while there is an element of luck, it depends most on strategy. You start by drafting players, and from this you create rosters. For the active players on your roster, their real world performance is distilled into categorized numbers. Based on these numbers, you get points or beat someone else and you get a win for the week. It requires a bit of homework since you don't want to activate a player who is injured, for one example. If you regularly watch baseball and ESPNnews then it helps. The more hardcore people do a lot more research. Yahoo's interface is web-based and very smooth and easy to use.

P.S. I can't wait until you reach mafia status since it takes a bit of work to wade through your bullshit to get to something worth reading. Honestly, I should have petitioned ab to just give it to you.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by ism@Feb 16 2003, 04:02 PM
P.S. I can't wait until you reach mafia status since it takes a bit of work to wade through your bullshit to get to something worth reading. Honestly, I should have petitioned ab to just give it to you.
Um....thanx?? :confused: lol

[ism]

quite welcome :luv:

[BeTheReds]

I'm in!

that is.. if it is free.

[lethal]

We'll play a free league. Probably Yahoo.

10 team 5X5 scoring roto style...do you guys want to play head to head (like a football league) or a season (like basketball)?

I'll set a league up in a week or 2 and get you guys to join.

[kangal]

yahoo is the best...i've been using them for 4 years...they have a good drafting method too...i say head to head so that people will kind of keep up....in season leagues people ended up not caring once they dropped out of the top 5 or so...

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Feb 16 2003, 09:17 PM
We'll play a free league. Probably Yahoo.

10 team 5X5 scoring roto style...do you guys want to play head to head (like a football league) or a season (like basketball)?

I'll set a league up in a week or 2 and get you guys to join.
I'd prefer roto. Less stress on me to avoid trash talk that way :D

Thanks for setting this up Andy!

[deez nuts]

I prefer roto, too.

Thanks for setting it up, lethal! :D

My first fantasy baseball <shivers>

[BeTheReds]

So when is this all gonna take place?

I dont know if i can do live drafting because of time differences.

Are we allowing DH?

Do we get points for impressive defense?

Do Offensive points count on plays with errors?

Do we get penalized if our players commit errors?

Is there a salary cap?

[lethal]

10 team Roto 5X5 is 5 pitching categories and 5 hitting categories.

In head to head, you copete against your opponent that week in those 10 categories. Each category you win is a "win" in the win column. Each category you lose is a "loss" in the loss column. Those wins and losses accumulate during the year to determine playoff seeding.

For season style, you're ranked 1-10 in each category (10 being the best and 1 being the worst). Your scores are added up and the 10 teams are ranked that way.

If I remember correctly, the 10 categories are BA, OPS, Hits, HR, and Steals. The pitching categories are Wins, ERA, WHIP, Saves, and Ks. Defense doesn't matter I don't think.

Each team is something like 20 players. There are utility positions, so you can use DHs.

Yahoo hasn't started this baseball season yet, so it'll take place in a few weeks. Opening day is late March, so there's time.

No salary cap since we're drafting. No player can be on 2 teams.

I think a live draft is better. I'll try to find a mutually acceptable time for everyone. If that's not possible, you can submit a draft order prior to the draft and Yahoo will pick players for you based on your rankings.

[kangal]

yeah...live drafts RULE.....so much trash talking and mocking others for picking hideo nomo with the 1st pick of the draft =)

[lethal]

Pertinent info. Draft is Thursday March 13 at 11:15 EST (that's 8:15 for you guys on the West Coast)
I went with a 12 team 6X6 head to head league. More trash talking and better way to keep people interested who may be out of it. You can make up lots of ground in this style of league.

I'll post details on how to join the league soon.

Join up! We need 12 people.


League ID#: 1384
Password: yellowworld
Exact Draft Time: Thursday, March 13 at 11:15 pm EST
Draft Type: Live
Maximum Number of Teams: 12
Maximum Players on a Team: 25
Player Universe: All baseball
Maximum Moves: No maximum
Maximum Trades: No maximum
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head League
Waiver Time: 2 days
Last Trade Date: Sunday, August 24
Trade Reject Time: 2 days
Minimum Innings: 10
Roster Changes: Daily
Starting Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF, OF, CI, MI, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, DL, DL

Statistical Categories (Batters): Runs
Home Runs
Runs Batted In
Stolen Bases
Batting Average
On-base + Slugging Percentage


Statistical Categories (Pitchers): Wins
Saves
Strikeouts
Holds
Earned Run Average
(Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched

[lethal]

http://standard.baseball.fantasysports.yah...ahoo.com/b1/reg (http://standard.baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/reg)

Go to that link. The league ID# is 1384. The password is yellowworld (no caps).

Join up!

[BeTheReds]

How do we decide draft order?

[lethal]

Draft order is decided by Yahoo.

It goes like a snake. 1 --> 12 in odd rounds and 12 --> 1 in even rounds.

[deez nuts]

Done. Taipan Bakery Powah!

Lethal, you might wanna post the info on our YW fantasy basketball league. I think cha-cha posted something wanting to do fantasy baseball, also.

Gah, curse you west coasters!! Draft time is 11:15pm EST.

Guess, I can auto draft if I'm on call that day.

[teaz0r]

i used to manage the varsity
baseball team in high school.
fantasy baseball alright.

[achtungbaby]

Done! The Revenge of Ktown!!

bunboy, you're bun is mine first :D

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Feb 19 2003, 09:52 PM
Done! The Revenge of Ktown!!

bunboy, you're bun is mine first :D
/wiggle wiggle/

[lethal]

I can still change the draft date/time if it doesn't work for you guys.

I figured that later would be better for the WC guys.

[BeTheReds]

The time is good for me

it will be 9:15 AM here...

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Feb 19 2003, 10:44 PM
I can still change the draft date/time if it doesn't work for you guys.

I figured that later would be better for the WC guys.
No worries. I'll do what I gotta do!

[BeTheReds]

I'm not exactly clear on how the scoring works.

Everyone knows that in real life, the teams with the best pitchers win.

Here tho, it seems like it would be more beneficial for you to have sluggers, since you have 12 batters and 8 pitchers. Plus, the pitchers don't play every day, while the batters do.

Therefore, I think that in this game, hitting counts more than pitching.

Is a win for your pitcher worth more points than the other categories?

[rakovlam]

Change the draft date to Friday. I can't stay up that long at 11:15 at a Thursday night.

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by rakovlam@Feb 21 2003, 02:47 AM
Change the draft date to Friday. &nbsp;I can't stay up that long at 11:15 at a Thursday night.
I don't have access to a computer on saturday mornings. (Im located in EST + 14 hours)

[lethal]

Originally posted by rakovlam@Feb 20 2003, 09:47 PM
Change the draft date to Friday. I can't stay up that long at 11:15 at a Thursday night.
Odds of the majority of us being home at that time on a Friday night are slim. And BTR doesn't have access Sat morning for him.

Sorry, draft's gotta stay where it is. Rank your players if you can't stay up that long. If you put in the work beforehand, the day of the draft is nothing anyway.

[lethal]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Feb 20 2003, 09:10 PM
I'm not exactly clear on how the scoring works.

Everyone knows that in real life, the teams with the best pitchers win.

Here tho, it seems like it would be more beneficial for you to have sluggers, since you have 12 batters and 8 pitchers. Plus, the pitchers don't play every day, while the batters do.

Therefore, I think that in this game, hitting counts more than pitching.

Is a win for your pitcher worth more points than the other categories?
Pitching and hitting are counted eaually.

There are 6 hitting categories and 6 pitching categories.

Basically, your pitchers compete against the otehr team's pitchers and your hitters compete against the other team's hitters. A 25 man roster usually consists of 11-12 pitchers and 13-14 hitters. I wanted to maintain roughly that proportion.

OK, so the pitching categories are ERA, Wins, Saves, Holds, WHIP, and Ks. The hitting categories are Runs, HRs, RBI, SB, BA, and OPS.

So each week, you compete head to head against an opposing team. Say you and I play in week 1. In the 12 categories, I win 7, you win 4, and we're tied in 1. For that week, I get 7 wins, 4 losses, and a tie. You get 4 wins, 7 losses, and a tie. If in that same week CSB plays AB and CSB wins 10 and AB wins 2. The standings would have CSB in first with a record of 10-2. I'd be in second with a record of 7-4-1. I'd be 2.5 games back. You'd be 4-7-1 and 5.5 games back of CSB. AB would be 2-10 and 8 games back.

Say in week 2, I play CSB and I win 12-0. You play AB and you win 8-3-1. The games are added to your cumulative record. I'd be 19-4-1. You would be 12-10-2. CSB would be 10-14-0. AB would be 5-18-1.

Each week you play 12 "games" against your opponent, each statistical category representing a "game."

So, say you have really good pitchers, but your hitters are terrible. You might win every pitching category every week, but lose every hitting category every week. You'd be a .500 team. Then again, the team you're playing could have even better pitching and even worse hitting. You could win hitter's categories that week. Or if your relievers are bad or have a bad week, maybe you don't win the saves category, but you get the Ks and Wins category.

Basically, hitting and pitcing count the same even though there are more hitters on your roster.

[BeTheReds]

I see how it works. so that means during the whole season there are 486 games? WOW! Talk about iron man! HA HA JK.

Tho I think a Win should count more than a save or a stolen base.

[BeTheReds]

Yo!

I forgot! I'm behind a frickin firewall. I can't even participate in the draft from here... dammit.

Oh well, I'll just have to trust my pre-list.

[deez nuts]

How do I set it so the computer drafts for me. I'm pretty sure I'm on call that night.

[kangal]

How do I set it so the computer drafts for me. I'm pretty sure I'm on call that night.



at the fantasy page, go to the "my team" tab....on that page, under your team name should be a link that says edit your pre-rankings...viola

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by kangal@Feb 24 2003, 08:51 AM



at the fantasy page, go to the "my team" tab....on that page, under your team name should be a link that says edit your pre-rankings...viola
Thanks Kangal! I appreciate it.

[lethal]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Feb 24 2003, 03:11 AM
Yo!

I forgot! I'm behind a frickin firewall. I can't even participate in the draft from here... dammit.

Oh well, I'll just have to trust my pre-list.
You can bypass firewalls by using surfola.com.

Its free.

[BeTheReds]

I have a filter set up so i cant go to surfola.

SHITE!

[lethal]

We still need about 6 more teams. Anyone else want to join or know people who will play?

I'll try to get a couple friends as well.

http://standard.baseball.fantasysports.yah...ahoo.com/b1/reg

Go to that link. The league ID# is 1384. The password is yellowworld (no caps).

Join up!

[lethal]

kangal...you left?

[BeTheReds]

Okay so heres another question.

Lets say I want derek jeter. But I have plans that if someone takes him I'll go after A-Rod, and if someone takes him, then i will go after nomar, and if he's gone, then I'll get tejada. Should I put them all on my prelist? Then what happens if no one takes them? will my idiot computer controlled draft take them all?

[BeTheReds]

I got a friend to join.

[cmar]

That's the problem with pre-ranking and not drafting live....you, in theory, could end up with Rodriguez, Jeter and Garciaparra if you rank them all high on your list. With live drafting you have the opportunity to pass on a position and go with the best player in another position.

That being said, I have usually had good luck with pre-drafting. And there is always trades if you have two stars in one position.

[lethal]

Yahoo does go more or less with the player position limits you set. So if you set 2 SSs, if you already have 2 SSs and when its your turn, it'll bypass all the rest of the SSs available, even if A-Rod is available.

We got 8 now. 4 more would be great, but we can settle for 2 more...we can even go with 8. Its not nearly as hard with 8 though.

[BeTheReds]

So after the draft is over, the remaining players are fair game?

[lethal]

Right

[BeTheReds]

So baiscally more important than being there for the draft, being there immediately after the draft is what is important. Because then is when you will have free access to ALL undrafted MLB players.

now assuming the top 200 get picked up in the draft (as there are 8 teams and 25 roster spots) who is gonne be left?

[cmar]

After the draft, all of the undrafted players will not be available for immediate pick up. They will be on "waivers" which gives everyone the opportunity to try to get them on their team. Assuming that more than one person wants an undrafted player, who gets them is determined by the draft order, with the person going last having the highest waiver priority. After a couple of days, the players "clear waivers" and are immediately available to anyone who wants to swap one of their existing players for them.

Don't count on finding many quality guys in the leftovers. Put your effort into the live draft itself. That is where the success of your team will be determined.

[lethal]

Draft is in a little over 24 hours!

Please be there. If you can't remember to set your draft list. 200 players will be drafted, so set your top 200.

I've set the limit to 8, so no one else can join. We have 8 now.

Good luck!

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Mar 12 2003, 10:19 PM
Draft is in a little over 24 hours!

Please be there. If you can't remember to set your draft list. 200 players will be drafted, so set your top 200.

I've set the limit to 8, so no one else can join. We have 8 now.

Good luck!
You can set your top 200? I thought you can only set top 25

[BeTheReds]

Crap! I'll set up my top 25 and let the comp take care of the rest.

I dont have that much time..


HAHAHA I'm gonna end up taking Kim Byung Hyun in the second round if you guys draft my 1-7 players.

[BeTheReds]

How do you set how many of each position you want?

[BeTheReds]

I started another team where i preranked only the Asian players as an experiment

most likely I will get most of them and suck all season.

[deez nuts]

ok who wants some!

play ball!

[lethal]

Today's opening day.

Good luck to everyone.

Play Ball!

[deez nuts]

hey i'm 12-0-0!

lethal, you're mine next!

[lethal]

i'm gonna kick ur bun ass...

[achtungbaby]

Woo-hoo! I won! And I barely know what's going on!

I think I've figured out this much though: pitching is very important.

And also: "MI" means 2nd basemen and short stops.

[BeTheReds]

I was leading all week, then my opponent pulled ahead on all 7 of the close categories.

Freakin yankees get their games postponed.

[lethal]

Ya...I was your opponent, BTR... :P

MI means middle infield, AB.

[BeTheReds]

So griffey is on the DL right?

[lethal]

Griffey's out for 6-10 weeks, but he hasn't been listed as DL eligible by Yahoo yet. I need them to do it fast so I can pick up another OF in my other league.

[BeTheReds]

yea me too.

but it's slim pickins.

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Apr 8 2003, 02:38 AM
Ya...I was your opponent, BTR... :P

MI means middle infield, AB.
Yea man, you pulled ahead cuz paul konerko is doing nothing.

And Lopez got on the mound and farted for 6 innings.

[BeTheReds]

Dammit the one trade i did and Rivera and Griffey are both on the DL

Gagne is fine tho.

GRR

Cest la Vie

[deez nuts]

i is going down faster than monica on clinton.

[cmar]

This fantasy baseball is the single most stressful thing in my life right now. I find myself watching a game and screaming for a player to drive in a run or steal a base. Or for my closer not to blow another save opportunity. I need some Prozac or something.

Randy Johnson back on the DL??? Call my doctor!!! I need help......

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 5 2003, 05:12 AM
i is going down faster than monica on clinton.
Here, have a cigar... :D

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by cmar@May 5 2003, 09:20 AM
This fantasy baseball is the single most stressful thing in my life right now. I find myself watching a game and screaming for a player to drive in a run or steal a base. Or for my closer not to blow another save opportunity. I need some Prozac or something.

Randy Johnson back on the DL??? Call my doctor!!! I need help......
Ouch, that hard to hurt. I heard he was out for the season, maybe for good...

jk:P

[BeTheReds]

If I win this week it will be like the Devil Rays defeating the Yankees.

Worse defeats first... knock on wood

[BeTheReds]

It's 6 - 6 on saturday with many close games in contention.

Can I do it? Or will I lose again?

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 11 2003, 05:51 PM
Or will I lose again?
Looks like you tied...it was close though. You only needed three RBIs and two stolen bases to keep the tie...good job.

I tied too:( Looks like this was the week of parity...

[lethal]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 12 2003, 12:28 AM
Looks like you tied...it was close though. You only needed three RBIs and two stolen bases to keep the tie...good job.

I tied too:( Looks like this was the week of parity...
Nice tie, BTR...held the fort agaisnt the league leader. Now its time to pick up some wins. 2 runs short of an outright victory.

AB...dude...you lost pretty handily.

[cmar]

I had a bit of luck yesterday when the Cubs-Cards game was rained out. My pitcher had given up 11 runs in 4 innings....with the game cancelled, all the stats were wiped out....whew! I probably would have lost ERA and WHIP if it had counted.

I felt bad for Lethal....Pujols grand slam was also taken away...ouch. But Lethal and I are tied in the standings and going head-to-head this week, so no more sympathy!

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 12 2003, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 12 2003, 12:28 AM
Looks like you tied...it was close though.&nbsp; You only needed three RBIs and two stolen bases to keep the tie...good job.

I tied too:(&nbsp; Looks like this was the week of parity...
Nice tie, BTR...held the fort agaisnt the league leader. Now its time to pick up some wins. 2 runs short of an outright victory.

AB...dude...you lost pretty handily.
4 - 6 is pretty handily? When I posted that message at 8:30pm last night, we were both tied...I was totally cheated! Not only was Dada's ERA stats wiped out, but so were Jim Edmond's HR and RBI's...!

[achtungbaby]

I've also gotta get better at scheduling my hitters...he had about 50 more AB's than me :(

[lethal]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 12 2003, 05:19 PM
4 - 6 is pretty handily? When I posted that message at 8:30pm last night, we were both tied...I was totally cheated! Not only was Dada's ERA stats wiped out, but so were Jim Edmond's HR and RBI's...!
Alright...so 4-6 isn't pretty handily...kinda close, but not quite there. Maybe like 8-4 is pretty handlily and 11-1 is a blowout...something like that.

Hey, I lost Pujols's grand slam. It didn't really matter though...tied in WHIP...just one fewer baserunner allowed would've been nice.

Oh well...new week, time to take out cmar.

[BeTheReds]

This week is the battle for 7th place.

Monkyas vs Be the Reds

It's 7 vs 8. You can call it the Japan series if you want, since we are both in Japan.

[deez nuts]

i beat the first place guy of last week. who is twin dragons?

[cmar]

All I know is that Lethal stomped all over my team last week.....my guys didn't put up much of a fight, hitting a dismal .239.....but Dada will rebound this week against the HK Mets!!!

[cmar]

Who's going to be the first team to lose to BTR?

[BeTheReds]

Yes, who will it be?

It's rather surprising. I have decent hitters, some of them Superstars. My pitching isn't that bad either. I figured after the draft I would be somewhere in the middle of the pack.

Looks like I am taking on first place again this week.

[lethal]

Yes...BTR's getting a beat down by your's truly this week.

Good job the past couple weeks. It could be the start of a new upward trend...hopefully not starting with me.

Twin Dragons was in the b'ball league too..."cha cha" I think. Maybe one of Sy's friends?

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 20 2003, 10:28 AM
Yes...BTR's getting a beat down by your's truly this week.

Good job the past couple weeks. It could be the start of a new upward trend...hopefully not starting with me.

Twin Dragons was in the b'ball league too..."cha cha" I think. Maybe one of Sy's friends?
I've got nothing to lose. Everyone expects me to lose. Let me try to pull a Joe Namath.

I am going to win this week. I guarentee it. If I lose, then I am Lethal Weapon's bitch next week. If I win then he is mine for two weeks. Deal?

[lethal]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 20 2003, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 20 2003, 10:28 AM
Yes...BTR's getting a beat down by your's truly this week.

Good job the past couple weeks.&nbsp; It could be the start of a new upward trend...hopefully not starting with me.

Twin Dragons was in the b'ball league too..."cha cha" I think.&nbsp; Maybe one of Sy's friends?
I've got nothing to lose. Everyone expects me to lose. Let me try to pull a Joe Namath.

I am going to win this week. I guarentee it. If I lose, then I am Lethal Weapon's bitch next week. If I win then he is mine for two weeks. Deal?
<shrug>

Sure, why the heck not?

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 20 2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 20 2003, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 20 2003, 10:28 AM
Yes...BTR's getting a beat down by your's truly this week.

Good job the past couple weeks. It could be the start of a new upward trend...hopefully not starting with me.

Twin Dragons was in the b'ball league too..."cha cha" I think. Maybe one of Sy's friends?
I've got nothing to lose. Everyone expects me to lose. Let me try to pull a Joe Namath.

I am going to win this week. I guarentee it. If I lose, then I am Lethal Weapon's bitch next week. If I win then he is mine for two weeks. Deal?
<shrug>

Sure, why the heck not?
oh my.

bitch bet back in effect.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 20 2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 20 2003, 10:28 AM
Yes...BTR's getting a beat down by your's truly this week.

Good job the past couple weeks. It could be the start of a new upward trend...hopefully not starting with me.

Twin Dragons was in the b'ball league too..."cha cha" I think. Maybe one of Sy's friends?
I've got nothing to lose. Everyone expects me to lose. Let me try to pull a Joe Namath.

I am going to win this week. I guarentee it. If I lose, then I am Lethal Weapon's bitch next week. If I win then he is mine for two weeks. Deal?
it's a long season, BTR.

things change

it's still pretty close, if you go by how far you're behind from the person above you, adjust accordingly and try and pull out a win; you'll be back in it in no time. you're what 22 games behind first? one 12-0 shut out one week you're right back in it. that's the way i look at it.

edit: and another thing. you all please stop sending me offers for soriano. he's not on the trading block! the man is on a warpath. heh heh heh

[lethal]

Yeah BTR. If you really kick my ass, then you're really back into the league. I was in a similar league last year and made up a 20 game deficit in 3 weeks.

[BeTheReds]

My Oriole guys have a double, a HR, 2 runs and 4rbi in the bottom of the first.

Kill Appier!

[BeTheReds]

Gibbons has a 2 homer night and batista is 3-3








YEAAAAA BOYEEE!!!

GO O's

I knew these boys would pay off eventually.

[achtungbaby]

Shiessa. Pedro and Run-whatever are both out this week:( Looks like I'm gonna lose to rackoflamb...

Don't any of you guys want Nomar? I need a fifth starting pitcher...and a second baseman...and a catcher...

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 21 2003, 02:41 PM
Shiessa.&nbsp; Pedro and Run-whatever are both out this week:(&nbsp; Looks like I'm gonna lose to rackoflamb...

Don't any of you guys want Nomar?&nbsp; I need a fifth starting pitcher...and a second baseman...and a catcher...
I'll give you vidro and weaver for nomar and someone you don't need

BTW that O's game would have been perfect for me if Julio hadn't blown that save.

DAMMIT!

[achtungbaby]

Why are you trying to push Weaver on me all the time...I have him on another team...not too crazy about him...

[deez nuts]

i need a catcher. piazza might be out for the whole season with a grade three groin strain. what a wuss.

i'll pick up one that nobody wants off waivers, wait for further news on piazza and go from there.

this sucks.

[BeTheReds]

Ooh yea, batista is on fire! Julio actually gets the save.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 21 2003, 05:35 AM
i need a catcher. piazza might be out for the whole season with a grade three groin strain. what a wuss.

i'll pick up one that nobody wants off waivers, wait for further news on piazza and go from there.

this sucks.
Sorry to hear about Mikey...losing a star player from your fantasy squad is always painful, you know I share in your suffering...

On the bright side, Varitek hasn't been playing too poorly. And half the time Piazza was playing, he was suffering some kinda nagging injury. Besides, aside from the top two or three catchers out there, you're not going to get a ton of production from that position. It's like TE for football.

Found out I was in 1st this morning...I see that as an ominous sign, it being so early still... :ph34r:

Although we should have balloting for Fantasy Manager of the Year soon... :D

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 26 2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 21 2003, 05:35 AM
i need a catcher.&nbsp; piazza might be out for the whole season with a grade three groin strain.&nbsp; what a wuss.

i'll pick up one that nobody wants off waivers, wait for further news on piazza and go from there.

this sucks.
Sorry to hear about Mikey...losing a star player from your fantasy squad is always painful, you know I share in your suffering...

On the bright side, Varitek hasn't been playing too poorly. And half the time Piazza was playing, he was suffering some kinda nagging injury. Besides, aside from the top two or three catchers out there, you're not going to get a ton of production from that position. It's like TE for football.

Found out I was in 1st this morning...I see that as an ominous sign, it being so early still... :ph34r:

Although we should have balloting for Fantasy Manager of the Year soon... :D
i'm sure your grieving and crying over my loss at this very moment.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 26 2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 26 2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 21 2003, 05:35 AM
i need a catcher. piazza might be out for the whole season with a grade three groin strain. what a wuss.

i'll pick up one that nobody wants off waivers, wait for further news on piazza and go from there.

this sucks.
Sorry to hear about Mikey...losing a star player from your fantasy squad is always painful, you know I share in your suffering...

On the bright side, Varitek hasn't been playing too poorly. And half the time Piazza was playing, he was suffering some kinda nagging injury. Besides, aside from the top two or three catchers out there, you're not going to get a ton of production from that position. It's like TE for football.

Found out I was in 1st this morning...I see that as an ominous sign, it being so early still... :ph34r:

Although we should have balloting for Fantasy Manager of the Year soon... :D
i'm sure your grieving and crying over my loss at this very moment.
If you want to talk about it...I'm here for you man.......

btw, if you're still shopping for a catcher in a couple of weeks, I've got a great deal going on for....

:D

[lethal]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 26 2003, 12:49 PM
Found out I was in 1st this morning...I see that as an ominous sign, it being so early still... :ph34r:
Enjoy your time in first. You and me are up next week.

[BeTheReds]

Who needs a catcher?

I'll give you Benito Santiago for your catcher and someone else. make me an offer.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 26 2003, 11:07 PM
Who needs a catcher?

I'll give you Benito Santiago for your catcher and someone else. make me an offer.
i'm gonna wait to see how veritek does.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 26 2003, 02:42 PM
Enjoy your time in first. You and me are up next week.
I will gladly relinquish the top spot for you...for now:)&nbsp; Hopefully Pedro's back by next week, that damn skinny bastard.

[BeTheReds]

BK is back so that means one of my players is going to get the axe. Does anyone want to enter a two for 1 deal with me? I'll make some propositions, but feel free to offer me trades too.

[lethal]

I'm looking for a SS or 2B and I can offer up a 3B (Mueller, Glaus, Blalock) all of whom have an OPS over 1.000.

[BeTheReds]

Ktown didn't like it.

Anyone else up for the 2 for one trade for pitching? In some cases DL'd pitching?

[deez nuts]

BTR

i need zito. he's like my only decent pitcher.

hehehe offering me all yankee players too!

[lethal]

Dammit, bunboy's kicking my ass...I lost to him last time too.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 30 2003, 11:49 AM
Dammit, bunboy's kicking my ass...I lost to him last time too.
**flex**

[achtungbaby]

Not sure if anyone responded to my post on "streaming" pitchers...but this week my strategy against Monkyas is a good example of that. Because Hernandez and Pedro are both on the DL, I'm left with about three core starting pitchers (Jason Schmidt, Curt Schilling, and Kyle Lohse...if Lohse can be considered "core").

Solution? Everyday I pick up about one or two starting pitchers for the next day, obviously trying to figure out who has the best chance of winning that day. So far, heh, it hasn't exactly worked out for the better, but I think the idea is solid, given the circumstances. I'm just trying to pick up K's, wins and saves...

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 28 2003, 06:16 AM
I'm looking for a SS or 2B and I can offer up a 3B (Mueller, Glaus, Blalock) all of whom have an OPS over 1.000.
So uhh...what do you plan on doing with Castillo?:)

[lethal]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 30 2003, 08:45 PM
So uhh...what do you plan on doing with Castillo?:)
Its Hernandez that I want to replace on my roster.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 30 2003, 05:49 PM
Its Hernandez that I want to replace on my roster.
Man, you are fine-tuning that machine over there. I don't think I have anyone to offer, and the guys I do, it probably wouldn't be in your best interest to deal for em.

I'm throwing the kitchen sink at Monkays tomorrow. I have both starting pitchers for the Arizona-SD game...I figure I HAVE to get one win outta those lamers.

[achtungbaby]

Christ, that's the last time I pick up Eaton or whatever that guy's name was from Arizona. Neither of em got a W!

I've got to hand it to Monkyas...I've thrown over 80 innings of pitching at him and he's still beaten me in W's and about to catch me in K's.

Miguel Batista is my only hope... :ph34r:

[deez nuts]

Jason Isringhausen is coming back for me next week. i guess he's good since the computer drafted him for me in the early rounds.

[achtungbaby]

Awwww SHIT! Batista's not even starting today...those damn liars at Yahoo!

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 1 2003, 02:23 PM
Jason Isringhausen is coming back for me next week. i guess he's good since the computer drafted him for me in the early rounds.
He sucks. You should just give him to me :D

Looks like you're giving Andy a whuppin this week (although it was close in a few categories). rakovlam also got owned this week...funny how he never comments in this thread:)

Kaz Ishii saved me...his ERA and WHIP bumped up Monkyas' overall total just enough:)

[deez nuts]

woohoo up to third place!

[deez nuts]

lethal did you let me win or something?

the last matchup we've had was close like literally down to sunday and by one pitching stat.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 2 2003, 09:56 AM
lethal did you let me win or something?

the last matchup we've had was close like literally down to sunday and by one pitching stat.
Ouch, now you're rubbin' salt in it.

I barely beat Monkyas...his team is playing a lot better than his record would indicate right now. Should be interesting this week against LethalWeapon...if I get Pedro back this week, as scheduled, I should make it competitive.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 2 2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 2 2003, 09:56 AM
lethal did you let me win or something?

the last matchup we've had was close like literally down to sunday and by one pitching stat.
Ouch, now you're rubbin' salt in it.

I barely beat Monkyas...his team is playing a lot better than his record would indicate right now. Should be interesting this week against LethalWeapon...if I get Pedro back this week, as scheduled, I should make it competitive.
wasn't rubbing it in. just really surprised.

[lethal]

I just got my ass kicked by bunboy, plain and simple. 4 close categories and I lost em all.

[cmar]

I had my way with BTR last week...heehee....actually he puts up a pretty tough fight. I don't think anyone in the league is a easy contest. Look at what happened to Lethal last week...ouch. And now we have 5 teams at the top within 5 games of each other. This is going to be a very competitive season.

I am in some other public leages where people have already stopped playing or making lopsided giveaway trades and it pisses me off.

I am so glad to be in the YW league with real players. I love you guys...sniff sniff.

[BeTheReds]

I am still winless, tho now I have a new elite closer and elite setup man due to AL east pitching changes.

[BeTheReds]

Would anyone be interested in Roberts? I am lacking in RUNS I am willing to trade steals for runs. Dave Roberts has 18sbs.

[deez nuts]

i hopped on over to look at AB's pitching roster. i walked away thinking to myself :"whoa. someone went all out on their pitching."

BTR prepare to feel the wrath of my woody tonight...........woody williams, that is...he's tearing it up!

[deez nuts]

i'm on a roll.

UTTER DOMINATION NATION!

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 5 2003, 07:56 AM
i hopped on over to look at AB's pitching roster. i walked away thinking to myself :"whoa. someone went all out on their pitching."

BTR prepare to feel the wrath of my woody tonight...........woody williams, that is...he's tearing it up!
As in, someone beat the crap outta all my starting pitchers! Curt's out for a week or so with the broken hand, Pedro is gonna pitch three innings this week, and Hernandez won't be back until next week. I don't expect to win for the next two weeks, but I just dont' want to lose by a lot.

[lethal]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 6 2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 5 2003, 07:56 AM
i hopped on over to look at AB's pitching roster.&nbsp; i walked away thinking to myself :"whoa.&nbsp; someone went all out on their pitching."

BTR prepare to feel the wrath of my woody tonight...........woody williams, that is...he's tearing it up!
As in, someone beat the crap outta all my starting pitchers! Curt's out for a week or so with the broken hand, Pedro is gonna pitch three innings this week, and Hernandez won't be back until next week. I don't expect to win for the next two weeks, but I just dont' want to lose by a lot.
As much as your pitchers are injured, you're kicking my ass in ERA and WHIP.

We're tied 6-6 so far, but I have Wood, Mulder, and Millwood this weekend.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 6 2003, 04:23 PM
...but I have Wood, Mulder, and Millwood this weekend.
Not if I keep making it rain in Oakland!! :D

[deez nuts]

next!

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 8 2003, 10:37 AM
next!
Ditto:)

The score seemed pretty close between LethalWeapon and I last night, but today I found out that Jay Lopez and Jim Edmonds have hit two HR's each (so far); Carl Everett and Andruw Jones hit solo HR's; Ichiro got 2 sb's; Mike Cameron hit 4 rbi's; and my team overall is hitting .490 today.

I'd flex but I don't want to break any walls:)

[achtungbaby]

And Carlos Delgado didn't even get to play today!:)

What will it be like when I get Pedro and Curt back...? :ph34r:

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 8 2003, 03:09 PM
Ditto:)

The score seemed pretty close between LethalWeapon and I last night, but today I found out that Jay Lopez and Jim Edmonds have hit two HR's each (so far); Carl Everett and Andruw Jones hit solo HR's; Ichiro got 2 sb's; Mike Cameron hit 4 rbi's; and my team overall is hitting .490 today.

I'd flex but I don't want to break any walls:)
come on. let's bring some spice into this!

cmar...your next! muhahahaha.

[deez nuts]

damn denied

nice come back btr.

won by the skin of my teeth.

[lethal]

I got owned 2 weeks in a row. 2 straight 10-1 losses is pretty disheartening. I was leading 2 weeks ago, now I'm 15 games back. Damn.

[cmar]

Ouch, ony my second loss of the season and I do it big...a 10-2 loss to Twin Dragons. All of my guys went into a hitting slump together...maybe they will break out of it this week together too. My team hit .237 last week, and 3 of my pitchers are on the DL. Bab bad bad.

[BeTheReds]

I rallied back from a 10-1 defecit to lose 5-7.

Who will be the first to drop to my team?

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 9 2003, 07:16 AM
I got owned 2 weeks in a row.&nbsp; 2 straight 10-1 losses is pretty disheartening.&nbsp; I was leading 2 weeks ago, now I'm 15 games back.&nbsp; Damn.
We were tied as of Saturday night, and then my guys went nuts on Sunday...

Don't let it get you down, your team's just in a mini-slump. If there's anything I've learned from fantasy, it's that it ain't ovah till it's ovah!

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 10 2003, 09:02 AM
If there's anything I've learned from fantasy, it's that it ain't ovah till it's ovah!
Unless your team is Be the Reds!

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jun 9 2003, 11:21 PM
Unless your team is Be the Reds!
Awww, there there. :P

If it's any consolation...in the YW basketball league, I was in last place for the first quarter of the season too...

[deez nuts]

baseball season is a looooooooooooooooong season.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 10 2003, 07:37 PM
baseball season is a looooooooooooooooong season.
No kidding...but I have to say, as much as I love football a million times better than baseball...fantasy baseball is the shit, man. It's like a friggen epic war.

*hot flash*

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 11 2003, 11:23 AM
Awww, there there. :P

If it's any consolation...in the YW basketball league, I was in last place for the first quarter of the season too...
Hopefully I won't be there in the last quarter of the season when it really counts.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 10 2003, 09:43 PM
No kidding...but I have to say, as much as I love football a million times better than baseball...fantasy baseball is the shit, man. It's like a friggen epic war.

*hot flash*
it's kinda like building up to the climatic battle in the second lord of the rings.

now to figure out which one of is gollum hahahaha

[lethal]

Fantasy Baseball is the original...and baseball is the sport with the most stats making for the best and most fantasy strategies. THis is why I love it. Now if my players would stop sucking, it would be a lot better.

[deez nuts]

i want the shiny!

[deez nuts]

looking to trade for a third baseman, shortstop or catcher.

[lethal]

I got a 3B...I got lots of 3Bs. Which do you want? I want a 2B or a SS.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 12 2003, 01:40 PM
I got a 3B...I got lots of 3Bs. Which do you want? I want a 2B or a SS.
my shortstops suck

i have two second base players:

alfonso soriano and bret boone

[achtungbaby]

What's wrong with Varitek? He's playing pretty well...

I have Alex Gonzalez, who has probably the best average of all short stops (.330).

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 12 2003, 01:55 PM
What's wrong with Varitek? He's playing pretty well...

I have Alex Gonzalez, who has probably the best average of all short stops (.330).
yeah scratch the catcher

mainly looking for a ss and a third baseman

[deez nuts]

lethal: i'm interested in troy glaus

ab: i'm interested in alex gonzalez.

edit:

ab: or nomar g.

[deez nuts]

soriano and boone both equal caliber. so don't try and rip me off!

[deez nuts]

send me offers. i'll check tonight.

and i'll try and catch you guys on aim

got a procedure in 30 min

[deez nuts]

anyone else wanting to do a little wheeling and dealing let me know

[lethal]

I'll send you an offer when I get home. I can't access my team from work.

[deez nuts]

friggin a.

this is how our fantasy hoops ended up being. <sigh>

i hate you all!

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 12 2003, 08:05 PM
this is how our fantasy hoops ended up being. <sigh>

And who ended up winning that, I wonder... :ph34r:

[deez nuts]

piazza's coming back soon!

x gonna give it to you!

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 12 2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 12 2003, 08:05 PM
this is how our fantasy hoops ended up being.&nbsp; <sigh>

And who ended up winning that, I wonder... :ph34r:
you did.

you made me feel like a "chuh nyah" getting her cherry popped.

but this is round two. and like a good chinaman, i take a licking and keep on ticking.

[achtungbaby]

Unless my hitters show up today, I'm toast. BTR got to start Mussina, Nomo and Kim against me twice. I picked up six different starting pitchers during the week and only got three victories out of 'em.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 15 2003, 03:29 PM
Unless my hitters show up today, I'm toast. BTR got to start Mussina, Nomo and Kim against me twice. I picked up six different starting pitchers during the week and only got three victories out of 'em.
are you saying you'll be the first to lose to btr?

and who's everett? why is he included in all the offers you sent me for soriano.

you making me suspicious like a chinaman that was involved in tienaman square about to get busted by the chinese gov'ment. or a chinaman displaced in japan.

plus my outfield is mad diesel, mad strong just like christina aguilera.

[BeTheReds]

My hitters did fairly well today. I think that means I might have actually won. We'll see what happens.

[deez nuts]

a ha!

i see why ab offered me everett and nomar for soriano.

by offering me a two for one that comprised of an outfielder would entail me dropping one of my own outfielders. my outfielders are slightly below par, on par or better than everett. by me dropping one outfielder (naturally one of the lower stat outfielders) would allow someone else to pick him up off waivers and mebbe strengthening their roster. essentially a trade straight up nomar for soriano.

hypothetically, i prolly would've dropped juan encarnacion since stat wise he's the lowest out of my outfielders. as a result losing the 18 stolen bases by soriano and the 12 stolen bases by encarnacion.

i tip my hat off to you, bossman. but, my momma didn't raise no fool.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 15 2003, 07:17 PM
a ha!

i see why ab offered me everett and nomar for soriano.

by offering me a two for one that comprised of an outfielder would entail me dropping one of my own outfielders. my outfielders are slightly below par, on par or better than everett. by me dropping one outfielder (naturally one of the lower stat outfielders) would allow someone else to pick him up off waivers and mebbe strengthening their roster. essentially a trade straight up nomar for soriano.

hypothetically, i prolly would've dropped juan encarnacion since stat wise he's the lowest out of my outfielders. as a result losing the 18 stolen bases by soriano and the 12 stolen bases by encarnacion.

i tip my hat off to you, bossman. but, my momma didn't raise no fool.
You paranoid mofo. I had never strategized that far; I just figured you could use an outfielder who'd hit 16 hr's (and one today, thank-you-very-much) along with filling the hole you had at short. I never figure I can loot or rape you in fantasy; we're both too stingy:) So I think it was a win-win situation.

But since you offered your analysis...

I personally think Everett is better than all of your outfielders -- on paper, but hey, since this is fantasy, that's all that matters. How can you argue with 50 runs, 17 hr's, 47rbi's? And I think you're blowing SB's out of proportion. Yes, they're a crucial category, but I'd rather pick up power hitters who can get three categories than just one. Yes, Soriano has the extra dimension -- and that's why I offered two quality players! Bottom line, when it comes down to it, your HRs, runs and RBI's increase...

[deez nuts]

you're doing too much endo:

garret anderson

carlos beltran (who was out in the beginning).

i would take those two over everett.

sure runs, HR's and rbi's may increase, but not dramatically. and not worth it at the cost of soriano + an outfielder i have no need for and the dramatic drop in stolen bases. i already have the hitting. i can hold my own in those categories. i need the intangibles, like stolen bases.

win-win situation in your mind. not in mine.

come on now. let's be real. the advantage is in your favor or else you wouldn't be so persistent and hell bent on getting soriano throwing me 3 trade offers in one day. and on top of that soriano would fit in nicely into your roster.

i can't blame you for trying. it's part of the game.

least you were fair. <cough cough> glaus for soriano.

a dog eat dog world. every man for themselves.

bring it!

for the amount of smack talkers we have on YW. shit sure is boring in our league. rak? btr? oh nevermind, they battling not to stay in last place.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 15 2003, 08:35 PM
you're doing too much endo:

garret anderson

carlos beltran (who was out in the beginning).

i would take those two over everett.

sure runs, HR's and rbi's may increase, but not dramatically. and not worth it at the cost of soriano + an outfielder i have no need for and the dramatic drop in stolen bases. i already have the hitting. i can hold my own in those categories. i need the intangibles, like stolen bases.

win-win situation in your mind. not in mine.

come on now. let's be real. the advantage is in your favor or else you wouldn't be so persistent and hell bent on getting soriano throwing me 3 trade offers in one day. and on top of that soriano would fit in nicely into your roster.

i can't blame you for trying. it's part of the game.

least you were fair. <cough cough> glaus for soriano.

a dog eat dog world. every man for themselves.

bring it!

for the amount of smack talkers we have on YW. shit sure is boring in our league. rak? btr? oh nevermind, they battling not to stay in last place.
Yes, you are correct in saying that the addition of Soriano would turn me into Shaquille O'Neal on roids and speed. Every trade, ideally, should benefit both sides, so I never said it wouldn't benefit me, just that it would be mutual.

Here's the upside to the deal for you, even if you keep Anderson or Beltran:

Everett way over Gonzalez, Hidalgo, Encarnancion for an outfield spot (you can bench one of em);

Nomar easily over Jose Valentin, who you drop or move into MI;

Bret Boone moves into your 2nd base.

I still think this would benefit your team.

There's no trash talkin in our league cuz parity is too great! One week you win, one week you lose...in an eight man league, every team should be overloaded with quality players...

[achtungbaby]

And did you notice, Carl Everett won this week for me against BTR:) Him and Ichiro, anyway.

[BeTheReds]

ARRGH!!!! I lost again!

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 16 2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 15 2003, 08:35 PM
you're doing too much endo:

garret anderson

carlos beltran&nbsp; (who was out in the beginning).

i would take those two over everett.

sure runs, HR's and rbi's may increase, but not dramatically. and not worth it at the cost of soriano + an outfielder i have no need for and the dramatic drop in stolen bases.&nbsp; i already have the hitting.&nbsp; i can hold my own in those categories.&nbsp; i need the intangibles, like stolen bases.

win-win situation in your mind.&nbsp; not in mine.

come on now.&nbsp; let's be real.&nbsp; the advantage is in your favor or else you wouldn't be so persistent and hell bent on getting soriano throwing me 3 trade offers in one day. and on top of that soriano would fit in nicely into your roster.&nbsp;

i can't blame you for trying.&nbsp; it's part of the game.

least you were fair.&nbsp; <cough cough> glaus for soriano.

a dog eat dog world.&nbsp; every man for themselves.

bring it!

for the amount of smack talkers we have on YW.&nbsp; shit sure is boring in our league.&nbsp; rak? btr? oh nevermind, they battling not to stay in last place.
Yes, you are correct in saying that the addition of Soriano would turn me into Shaquille O'Neal on roids and speed. Every trade, ideally, should benefit both sides, so I never said it wouldn't benefit me, just that it would be mutual.

Here's the upside to the deal for you, even if you keep Anderson or Beltran:

Everett way over Gonzalez, Hidalgo, Encarnancion for an outfield spot (you can bench one of em);

Nomar easily over Jose Valentin, who you drop or move into MI;

Bret Boone moves into your 2nd base.

I still think this would benefit your team.

There's no trash talkin in our league cuz parity is too great! One week you win, one week you lose...in an eight man league, every team should be overloaded with quality players...
you're forgetting one variable. i'm losing soriano.

i would take gonzalez over everett.

it's ok i still love you.

talk is cheap. i'm a man of action and satisfaction. let's get it on, ab. it's showtime.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 16 2003, 12:16 AM
And did you notice, Carl Everett won this week for me against BTR:) Him and Ichiro, anyway.


i disagree. i don't see it as that way.

remember what i've said over aim? i ain't taking a trade for soriano unless it's overwhelmingly in my favor, not a little in my favor, a lot. call it NY pride! a true ny'er would never trade a franchise yankee player like soriano for a red sox! holla! and richard hidalgo's been on a warpath thank you very much.

have you noticed, i've been trouncing on my opponents?

the only exception is we both beat btr, by the skin of our teeth. 7-5 in both cases.

and btr has a good team despite his record.

nice offer btr. har har har.

a victory is still a victory in the end! you've come close, btr. but, unlike monica lewinsky, you get no cigar.

shit talking is fun. baseball season is a long one.

[lethal]

So does anyone want Troy Glaus for a top 50 SS or 2B or Hank Blalock for a top 80 SS or 2B?

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 16 2003, 08:40 AM
So does anyone want Troy Glaus for a top 50 SS or 2B or Hank Blalock for a top 80 SS or 2B?
i would do aaron boone and troy glaus for alfonso soriano, if you're willing.

but, i have to run some numbers after work to make sure.

[cmar]

I took another beating this week. I am optimistic, though, since I had 4 players on DL and still kept things very close in all the categories. But I am beginning to feel like BTR....will I ever win again?

The four teams ahead of me in the standings are all playing each other this week. This is a good opportunity to make a move. Watch out.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by cmar@Jun 16 2003, 12:40 PM
I took another beating this week. I am optimistic, though, since I had 4 players on DL and still kept things very close in all the categories. But I am beginning to feel like BTR....will I ever win again?

The four teams ahead of me in the standings are all playing each other this week. This is a good opportunity to make a move. Watch out.
yep, you were up there at the start of the season. i think you were number two and we faced off earlier on. that was epic.

i've been pretty injury free cept for piazza. some came off dl for me like beltran, hidalgo and isringhausen.

so knock on wood.

our league is like a war zone in there with bodies strewned everywhere.

25 weeks of everyone trying to gain that edge over the others.

even though hoops is my number one sport. the fantasy basketball we did doesn't even compare to the magnitude of fantasy baseball. twice the amount of stats, twice the players, twice the strategizing. it's insane.

i swear i dream of stats and algorithms at times from running all those player stats.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 16 2003, 09:12 AM
i would do aaron boone and troy glaus for alfonso soriano, if you're willing.

but, i have to run some numbers after work to make sure.
I was gonna send you A. Gonzalez and EY for Glaus, but when I look over the available MI players, there are none. Kaput! No wonder you and bunboy are searching so hard a second SS or 2nd.

Vidro for Glaus is the best I can do.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 16 2003, 05:14 AM
have you noticed, i've been trouncing on my opponents?
But none of those opponents were...(gasps)...The Revenge of Ktown!

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 16 2003, 03:03 PM
But none of those opponents were...(gasps)...The Revenge of Ktown!
don don don

you beat me 7-4 last time in week 5.

i had some key players still on dl.

this is gonna be epic or just so lopsided one of us would cry (hopefully you).

i'm ready for you like a blushing virgin bride on a wedding night

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 16 2003, 03:14 PM
don don don

you beat me 7-4 last time in week 5.

i had some key players still on dl.

this is gonna be epic or just so lopsided one of us would cry (hopefully you).

i'm ready for you like a blushing virgin bride on a wedding night
What key players?!? Hah, and that was before I added Javy Lopez, Jose Vidro, and Scott Rolen to my arsenal.

It looks like your'e going to have to completely pummel me for any shot at the top spot (and wouldn't ya know it, I've never lost by more than two points).

It's all up to you to demolish the evil Ktown, bunboy, because Lethal and Twin Dragons will be both tearing each other apart this week too...

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 16 2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 16 2003, 03:14 PM
don don don

you beat me 7-4 last time in week 5.

i had some key players still on dl.

this is gonna be epic or just so lopsided one of us would cry (hopefully you).

i'm ready for you like a blushing virgin bride on a wedding night
What key players?!? Hah, and that was before I added Javy Lopez, Jose Vidro, and Scott Rolen to my arsenal.

It looks like your'e going to have to completely pummel me for any shot at the top spot (and wouldn't ya know it, I've never lost by more than two points).

It's all up to you to demolish the evil Ktown, bunboy, because Lethal and Twin Dragons will be both tearing each other apart this week too...
bring it.

and when the dust clears.

i will be victorious!

i just need to do a little damage.

if all goes according to plan:

1)twin dragons and lethal weapons will duke it out
2)you draw dada all stars next week
3)i draw hong kong mets next week

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 16 2003, 04:19 PM
3)i draw hong kong mets next week
Don't underestimate the craftiness of rackoflamb. He beat you last time:)

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 16 2003, 07:14 PM
Don't underestimate the craftiness of rackoflamb. He beat you last time:)
i didn't have fukinese heat last time

fukinese heat > hk heat.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 16 2003, 02:59 PM
No wonder you and bunboy are searching so hard a second SS or 2nd.


i think i may have found my ss in mark loretta (who also plays 2nd and 3rd base) 2 runs, 3 rbi's and 2 hr's with a avg .400 in one game yesterday.

**crosses fingers**

i had an awesome hitting day, yesterday.

and look at dontelle willis outgunning and scoring a win in comparison to pedro martinez, yesterday.

it's still early, though.

[lethal]

So...no takers for Glaus or Blalock? I could even package either one with an OF.

[deez nuts]

looking like a subpar night for me.

[achtungbaby]

Go Jae Seo! I had Dontrelle on my other team...and dumped him to pick up Jae. Got to represent.

I came home after being out all night and was surprised to see that bunboy hadn't padded his lead. After all, Scott Rolen, Carlos Delgado and Jose Vidro were all out...:)

[BeTheReds]

Orioles rained out.

There goes half my offense.

Maybe there is a reason why I am in last.

[BeTheReds]

Lethal...

Really, Really I am flattered that you are offering me 2 players for Melvin Mora. But the problem is, I am using Melvin for his SS eligiblity. Upping the ante by offering me outfielders and 3rd basemen is great. However I would have to get rid of a player to accept the trade, and then pick up someone to play in the MI spot. which means I would need to get rid of another player.

Lastly, Batista and Hillenbrand are not too bad as 3B's go, and soon Hinske will be off the DL which means one of these are gonna have to go. I do like Blalock, but he'd be my 4th 3B.

The only 3B of yours I will trade Melvin Mora for is Pujols, and I doubt you will part with him.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 18 2003, 02:13 AM


I came home after being out all night and was surprised to see that bunboy hadn't padded his lead. After all, Scott Rolen, Carlos Delgado and Jose Vidro were all out...:)
it wasn't gonna be easy. you're not in the top spot for this long without a reason. but, cuz your in the top spot people will be gunning for you.

we're close in each category. the most being strikeouts with 5 separating us. i had no starting pitchers last night. but, with a full pitching rotation up tonight, it's do or die for me.

i love challenges. i thrive off challenges. it drives me at work and at play.

it's just one battle in a greater war. but, each small victory will add up.

sincerely yours,

da playa playa from the himalaya

[lethal]

BTR, you have Roberts playing Util right now. If you move a MI, you could shift Brian Roberts to MI and put in an OF into the Util postion. Blalock is far better than any 3B on your roster. He's hitting 350 with an almost 1.000 OPS. 11 HRs, lots of runs and RBI. He is seriously better than Batista (Runs, RBI, SB, HR same. 340 vs 268 Avg; 956 OPS vs 752), Hillenbrand (RBI and SB same. 2X runs, 3X HR, 340 vs 300 BA, 956 to 795 OPS), and Hinske (I won't do counting stats cause he's been injured, but he's hitting 232 with a 709 OPS. Even last year he only hit 279 with an 846 OPS).

Mora may or may not be a fluke. Blalock's almost as good as he is right now and Blalock will get better while Mora will probably get worse. Plus, I'm throwing in a OF or 1B or 3B who could easily replace a non-performer like Hillenbrand or even Conine.

[BeTheReds]

I forgot all about Brian Roberts. Okay lets trade then...

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 18 2003, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 18 2003, 02:13 AM


I came home after being out all night and was surprised to see that bunboy hadn't padded his lead. After all, Scott Rolen, Carlos Delgado and Jose Vidro were all out...:)
it wasn't gonna be easy. you're not in the top spot for this long without a reason. but, cuz your in the top spot people will be gunning for you.

we're close in each category. the most being strikeouts with 5 separating us. i had no starting pitchers last night. but, with a full pitching rotation up tonight, it's do or die for me.

i love challenges. i thrive off challenges. it drives me at work and at play.

it's just one battle in a greater war. but, each small victory will add up.

sincerely yours,

da playa playa from the himalaya
Rockie Biddle is killing me. Another blown save...!

[achtungbaby]

Good lord, looks like Twin Dragons had this Wheaties -- every morning this week! 4 W's and 44K's in three days, not bad at all...

[lethal]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 19 2003, 01:02 AM
Good lord, looks like Twin Dragons had this Wheaties -- every morning this week! 4 W's and 44K's in three days, not bad at all...
Yes...he's kicking my ass and I'm on my way to a 4th straight losing week.

Every single one of my pitchers has hit a slump at the same damn time. Why???

[deez nuts]

yeah twin dragon's on roids or something.

did he supply all his players with d-bol and deca?

[deez nuts]

i would also point out that lethal is putting a damper in my grandmaster plans.

you were supposed to duke it out with twin dragons and let me inch closer to the top spot. give your players a pep talk!

with ab and me duking it out. i think twin dragons will be pushing first place by end of sunday. it will be close in the top spot between ab and twin dragons unless i completely decimate ab and bump him off. but i don't see that happening.

i draw hong kong mets next week. but, i lost to him in our previous outing (week 6) then after that i draw twin dragons, but i beat him 7-4 in the previous head to head (week 7). i've also had a lot of problems with btr in the last two outings winning barely by the skin of my teeth.

the only two people i haven't beat yet are k-town (hopefully that will change this week) and hk mets.

i don't think it's a roster issue. i think we're all evenly matched. more like who has more hot players that week. maybe it boils down to whether or not which players has juiced up or not. and also which team one of our teams has the most players on steroids.

[deez nuts]

i'm getting mad hits tonight.

just like a black guy in the navy that just docked in okinawa.

[lethal]

Going into the weekend, I'm losing 10-1. Am I ever going to win again?

[achtungbaby]

Slumping big time.

1B Delgado, Carlos 1/8 .125 .658
3B Rolen, Scott 0/2 .000 .500
SS Garciaparra, Nomar 3/17 .176 .412
CF Edmonds, Jim 2/10 .200 1.000
OF Everett, Carl 1/11 .091 .174
OF Jones, Andruw 0/15 .000 .118

bunboy's basically going against Ichiro, Mike Sweeney and Chipper this week. Everyone else hasn't shown up!

Gotten some pretty solid pitching though, which is a change. It's nice to have Pedro twice in a week (although he better get me a W this time).

[lethal]

The Boston pen comes through for you and Pedro again, eh AB?

Well...it helped my Phillies, so I'm happy. :)

[deez nuts]

great series ab. this shit was tight from the start.

like two thorougbreds approaching the final lap.

we had the geejeebaes and and jiu niu's.

it's time to see who is more room salon.

touch it why don't you
touch it why don't you
oh girl i wanna rock your world

i had luck snagging some up and comers from waivers.
eric byrnes, richard hidalgo, cory koskie, mike loretta and basically a vital member in my core pitching staff dontrelle willis. those guys tore it up for me.

i found my shortstop in loretta and my third baseman in koskie. hahahaha i love scouting up and coming talent like an amateur porn director.

i'm glad i didn't do nomar and everett for soriano. **whew**.

piazza's coming back soon, too.

time to make that eventual push for the first or second playoff seed. i've been running numbers like mad on an excel spreadsheet.

hitting is definitely my strong point. i need to tweak my pitching a little. then it'll be perfect.

[lethal]

F!

Now I'm losing 11-0! What the hell is going on?

[lethal]

Brett Myers throws a complete game 3 hit shutout. Maybe I can still salvage the ERA and WHIP categories this week.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 22 2003, 09:05 AM
great series ab. this shit was tight from the start.

like two thorougbreds approaching the final lap.

we had the geejeebaes and and jiu niu's.

it's time to see who is more room salon.

touch it why don't you
touch it why don't you
oh girl i wanna rock your world

i had luck snagging some up and comers from waivers.
eric byrnes, richard hidalgo, cory koskie, mike loretta and basically a vital member in my core pitching staff dontrelle willis. those guys tore it up for me.

i found my shortstop in loretta and my third baseman in koskie. hahahaha i love scouting up and coming talent like an amateur porn director.

i'm glad i didn't do nomar and everett for soriano. **whew**.

piazza's coming back soon, too.

time to make that eventual push for the first or second playoff seed. i've been running numbers like mad on an excel spreadsheet.

hitting is definitely my strong point. i need to tweak my pitching a little. then it'll be perfect.
You suck!!

<_<

If only I'd started Jake Peavy...I'd still be in first place! Oh well, it was fun to watch. Got a lot more production out of my pitching than I'm used to, so that was interesting...hopefully my hitters will show up this week.

Yeah, it's a good thing you didn't do Nomar/Everett for Soriano. I would have laughed and laughed afterwards...:) JK! I still think that was a reasonable deal. Everett had a lousy week, but Nomar went 6/6 on Saturday...!

Hitting is everything in head to head match ups...

[lethal]

I got owned last week. 11-0!

Made a late Sunday charge, but it was too little too late by then.

Oh well, time to break the losing streak! It ends at 4!

[cmar]

I got whipped again...this time by Monkyas, but my team actually showed some signs of life. Watch out KTOWN, this could be my comeback week. I still have three pitchers (including my #1 draft pick) on DL but managed with a little streaming to hold my own. I lost every category in batting and I am not sure how to fix that.

I accidentally dropped Ryan Franklin....I meant to drop Jeff Nelson (both Seattle pitchers) so please don't claim him! I need him back :-) But I know, all is fair in love and fantasy baseball.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by cmar@Jun 23 2003, 12:08 PM


I accidentally dropped Ryan Franklin....I meant to drop Jeff Nelson (both Seattle pitchers) so please don't claim him! I need him back :-) But I know, all is fair in love and fantasy baseball.
ouch.

i hate that.

i did that in our fantasy hoops team too.

i dropped alvin williams instead of the chicago bull's PG jay williams, hahahaha.

[deez nuts]

motherfucking hell yeah:

4 in a row.

[deez nuts]

it's getting awfully crowded in the top three spots.

[rakovlam]

Well, my regular season is over. everyone gets to be in the playoffs, right? I'll step up then.

[deez nuts]

wow lethal you're trading pujols?

[lethal]

Gagne and Smoltz. I'll dominate saves for the rest of the year and Gagne helps out the ERA and WHIP some...and that's where I definately need help.

I figure its an even trade and I can more easily find hitting help than closing help. I mean, Gagne is replacing Franklyn German for Christ's sake.

[deez nuts]

crap hitting is what i have against twin dragons.

i gotta tweak my whole strategy.

[lethal]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 09:37 AM
crap hitting is what i have against twin dragons.

i gotta tweak my whole strategy.
The trade won't go through till Saturday or Sunday.

Pujols won't hurt you much.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 25 2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 09:37 AM
crap hitting is what i have against twin dragons.

i gotta tweak my whole strategy.
The trade won't go through till Saturday or Sunday.

Pujols won't hurt you much.
i'm playing twin dragons next week.

[lethal]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 25 2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 09:37 AM
crap hitting is what i have against twin dragons.

i gotta tweak my whole strategy.
The trade won't go through till Saturday or Sunday.

Pujols won't hurt you much.
i'm playing twin dragons next week.
Oh...well kick his ass for me...for all of us actually. Hell, I might as well drop out of the race since I'm so far back now. But then again...we're not even at the all star break yet. We're barely halfway through the season!

I still got time to recover. We all do.

And rak...yes, we all make the playoffs.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 25 2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 25 2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 09:37 AM
crap hitting is what i have against twin dragons.

i gotta tweak my whole strategy.
The trade won't go through till Saturday or Sunday.

Pujols won't hurt you much.
i'm playing twin dragons next week.
Oh...well kick his ass for me...for all of us actually. Hell, I might as well drop out of the race since I'm so far back now. But then again...we're not even at the all star break yet. We're barely halfway through the season!

I still got time to recover. We all do.

And rak...yes, we all make the playoffs.
i'll try. he's a toughie.

i beat him 7-4 last time. ab beat him 9-2 in their last outing.

i'm monitoring my batters carefully.

i switched from a no bench batters to a max pitching roster to try and optimize my pitching since they be slacking a bit. this is what i've learned from my encounter against ab last week.

you all need to keep your eyes on the prize. still a long ass way to go.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 25 2003, 06:28 AM
Gagne and Smoltz. I'll dominate saves for the rest of the year and Gagne helps out the ERA and WHIP some...and that's where I definately need help.

I figure its an even trade and I can more easily find hitting help than closing help. I mean, Gagne is replacing Franklyn German for Christ's sake.
Personally, I think this was a bad trade, LW. Yes, it definitely helps pad the "S" column, but what's the difference between me having two outstanding set-up guys (like Dotel and Grimsley, heh) who lock up the Holds category every week...? It's just that -- *one* category...(closers are only going to have a marginal effect on the ERA and WHIP, even less on the K's and Holds). Closers are coveted in roto leagues because they pad your save total, like having Ben Wallace take care of the boards. In head to heads, they serve a limited purpose.

Contrast that with hitters, who affect six categories (runs, HR's, rbi's, sb's, average, ops). If you can dominate the HR and RBI categories, you'll most likely also dominate runs, average and OPS, which in turn leads to the W.

Where a dominate closer can really make the difference is in the playoffs...

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 07:22 AM
this is what i've learned from my encounter against ab last week.

Ahhh, I'm flattered:) The pitcher-streaming thing has paid off a couple of times, you just can't rely on it week to week. I use it to some extent against opponents who have a better starting pitching roster than me (which is just about everyone). If you can pick one starting pitcher every other day who's going to be win, you can dominate the W and K category. It would have really paid off last week against bunboy had I chose to start Jake Peavy, who I picked up Saturday because I could see we were tied in W's and bunboy didn't have any SP left. I chickened out at the last minute though because I figured I still had Jae Seo pitching and the ERA and WHIP was so close, I thought Peavy v. the Mariners might disrupt that.

Turned out to be a bad call. Peavy got the win and shut down Seattle:(

Re: the playoffs...I thought only the top four teams made it, the rest were in the consolation bracket...

[achtungbaby]

Last add re: hitters v. closers: in each match up for the last three weeks, the team that led in HR's won the game.

[deez nuts]

didn't want to say anything but since ab bought it up.

i would pick an ace batter over an ace pitcher anyday. hitters are out there and have more of an affect on your production.


i think you could've gotten more for pujols.

heh heh heh rescind the trade.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 25 2003, 04:18 PM


Contrast that with hitters, who affect six categories (runs, HR's, rbi's, sb's, average, ops).&nbsp; If you can dominate the HR and RBI categories, you'll most likely also dominate runs, average and OPS, which in turn leads to the W.&nbsp; &nbsp;

that's what i was saying about soriano. an ace hitter and one that can bring you sb's.

this was my strategy from the get go. hog all the ace hitters that can also yield me sb's.

in my last 4 wins. i either dominated, edged out or been edged out in hr's, rbi's, runs, BA, OPPS.

the times i been edged out or broke even in a hitting category, i compensated that with sb's (that's why i was so stingy with soriano and other hitter/base stealers. a hitter that brings you sb's is priceless, in my opinion). my pitching staff plays a factor but my pitching staff is at best mediocre and hit or miss each week.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Jun 25 2003, 04:31 PM
Last add re: hitters v. closers: in each match up for the last three weeks, the team that led in HR's won the game.
nope.

cmar beat me in hr's. by two.

we were close in every category.

the thing that separated our hitters was that i had more hitters that can hit and steal bases during that encounter. correct me if i'm wrong, cmar. i remember this cuz we were neck and neck going into the end of the week and i was thinking: "I hope my ace hitters and base stealers come through."

juan pierre, ivan rodriguez and austin kearns vs alfonso soriano, carlos beltran, derek lee, juan encarnacion, bret boone, luis gonzalez and richard hidalgo. all solid hitters with base stealing capabilities.

[lethal]

Maybe I could've gotten more. I just wanted to change up a little, and I think it is a fairly even deal. I also suspect Pujols won't keep hitting at this torrid pace the entire year whereas Gagne is going to stay this good the entire year.

I'll win saves every week with Smoltz and Gagne and while they don't help WHIP and ERA that much, they both do K a lot of guys relative to their IP.

Also, I can more easily replace Pujols than Gagne, that is, I'll lose less when replacing Pujols at either 1B or LB than I will replacing Gagne at closer.

<shrug> We'll see how it all works out.

Everyone makes the playoffs, but only the top 6 are in the Champions Bracket. 7th and 8th play in the Consolation Bracket. At least that's what the schedule says, but the schedule also assumes a 12 team leagu, so I'm not sure what they do with an 8 team league.

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Jun 26 2003, 01:12 PM
Maybe I could've gotten more. I just wanted to change up a little, and I think it is a fairly even deal. I also suspect Pujols won't keep hitting at this torrid pace the entire year whereas Gagne is going to stay this good the entire year.

I'll win saves every week with Smoltz and Gagne and while they don't help WHIP and ERA that much, they both do K a lot of guys relative to their IP.

Also, I can more easily replace Pujols than Gagne, that is, I'll lose less when replacing Pujols at either 1B or LB than I will replacing Gagne at closer.

<shrug> We'll see how it all works out.

Everyone makes the playoffs, but only the top 6 are in the Champions Bracket. 7th and 8th play in the Consolation Bracket. At least that's what the schedule says, but the schedule also assumes a 12 team leagu, so I'm not sure what they do with an 8 team league.
It would make sense to do 4 on 4

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 03:10 PM
my pitching staff plays a factor but my pitching staff is at best mediocre and hit or miss each week.
Yeah, you might as well toss me over that guy Woody Williams...:)

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Jun 25 2003, 03:26 PM
nope.

cmar beat me in hr's. by two.

we were close in every category.

the thing that separated our hitters was that i had more hitters that can hit and steal bases during that encounter. correct me if i'm wrong, cmar. i remember this cuz we were neck and neck going into the end of the week and i was thinking: "I hope my ace hitters and base stealers come through."

juan pierre, ivan rodriguez and austin kearns vs alfonso soriano, carlos beltran, derek lee, juan encarnacion, bret boone, luis gonzalez and richard hidalgo. all solid hitters with base stealing capabilities.
That's one contest though. Contrast that with nearly every other match up in which HR's have been the leading factor, and you gotta figure -- guys who can hit it outta the park, on average, win games for you.

Sure, there are guys like Soriano out there, but that would be like trying to have a successful basketball strategy built around getting Kobe Bryant in the draft. Odds are, you won't (you lucky bastard).

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jun 26 2003, 12:23 AM
It would make sense to do 4 on 4
If it's 4 on 4...it's gonna be a helluva race just to get in there...

[achtungbaby]

Woo hoo!! After all that crap I said about Gagne, I just got him in a trade in one of my other (roto) leagues...!

I gave up Alex Rodriguez and Brandon Looper for Alex Gonzalez and Gagne. I wouldn't have done the deal had I not already had Posada, Delgado, Thome, Kent, Chipper, Juan Gonzalez, Morgan Ensberg and Shawn Green...!

[lethal]

I had problems all over...no one was hitting and my pitching was falling apart all at once.

It was time to do something drastic.

[deez nuts]

what the hell is going on with my pitching?!?!?!?!

going into tonight i have 4 wins, 41 k's, 3 saves.

by tomorrow, i would have 6 wins and 52 k's.since woody williams and dontrelle willis racked up wins. man that dontrelle willis was a steal from waivers. he's like matt clement of last year.

my best pitching performance week ever. kinda like twin dragons pitching from last week.

wow. mebbe i found my pitching roster.

prolly gonna drop one starting pitcher to make room for a bench hitter. texiera shows promise and plays 1st and 3rd base.

leiter is killing me. he either sinks me or pays off big for me. i can't afford to drop him since he does rack up my win column, he does come through after he had a bad game and there's nobody else statistically i can drop him for. wish he wold