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EggMan
07-04-2002, 08:09 PM
:? HMMMM :?

Shuriken
07-04-2002, 08:38 PM
Are whites really white? Are blacks really black? Is the ocean really blue? Is Jennifer Lopez really a singer?

achtungbaby
07-04-2002, 09:21 PM
You mean everyone in here isn't yellow...?

kasia
07-04-2002, 09:33 PM
there was this really cool poem that i once read--i can't remember the exact words, but it went something like this:


you're blue when you're cold.
you're green when you're sick.
you're red when you're embarrassed.
you're pale when you're scared.
and you call me colored.

DaBestSpooner
07-05-2002, 07:04 AM
I'm opaque

ImrkevinpakI
07-05-2002, 07:23 AM
[quote:0d5769905d="kasia"]there was this really cool poem that i once read--i can't remember the exact words, but it went something like this:


you're blue when you're cold.
you're green when you're sick.
you're red when you're embarrassed.
you're pale when you're scared.
and you call me colored.[/quote:0d5769905d]

I read this a thousand times on the net....yea, nice poem too.
Except...no offense, wouldn't you call a black person colored? never heard an asian person being called that.

achtungbaby
07-05-2002, 07:31 AM
[quote:75ede5e20c="ImrkevinpakI"]

I read this a thousand times on the net....yea, nice poem too.
Except...no offense, wouldn't you call a black person colored? never heard an asian person being called that.

[/quote:75ede5e20c]

I believe the correct vernacular is "negro"...

EggMan
07-06-2002, 12:53 AM
Most blacks are brown but some are black.

LilCPChik
07-07-2002, 08:39 PM
[quote:24e087ccd7="EggMan"]Most blacks are brown but some are black.[/quote:24e087ccd7]
and sum r so black dat they blue

mizkisses
07-09-2002, 04:27 PM
[quote:cfcc62c488="Shuriken"]Are whites really white? Are blacks really black? Is the ocean really blue? Is Jennifer Lopez really a singer?[/quote:cfcc62c488]
the ocean is green and brown and icky. heh.

i'm tan. i'm so tan, someone mistakened me for hispanic once. that's a laugh. could i BE anymore asian looking? sheesh louise, people these days...

but..mmph, i'm not yellow. yellow is..corn is yellow...pee is yellow...why are asians considered yellow...?

kasia
07-09-2002, 04:30 PM
because that is what the europeans labeled us as. they claimed "white" because they believed that white was pure.

mizkisses
07-09-2002, 04:32 PM
[quote:266e7351bd="kasia"]because that is what the europeans labeled us as. they claimed "white" because they believed that white was pure.[/quote:266e7351bd]

whoa, i never knew that. the things you learn everyday...

i actually think some asians are sometimes "whiter" than people who are caucasian...where did yellow come from...

achtungbaby
07-09-2002, 07:23 PM
[quote:cf58b4ec7c="mizkisses"]...where did yellow come from...[/quote:cf58b4ec7c]

I guess back then anyone with more than a tan was either black or yellow...

Josh12
07-13-2002, 05:41 PM
Hey a few years ago I worked at this cleaning company. I went into a pub to do some work and there was a old white guy there. skip to the end my boss told me he was at the pub and the guy was like Josh "he's colored." Do we really have yellow skin?[b:5e9b0f5084]We are beautiful. [/b:5e9b0f5084] Never forget that.

A Question to all the Asians out there.
Have you found that whites or whoever refer to your skin as being yellow?

karizma
07-13-2002, 05:47 PM
>> im so white it worries me... i need some sun...but when i do get tanned im more of light apricot color haha...as for yellow...the only time im yellow is when i accidently mark myself with a highlighter =P

mizkisses
07-13-2002, 05:50 PM
[quote:b8d92e091c="achtungbaby"]
I guess back then anyone with more than a tan was either black or yellow...[/quote:b8d92e091c]

but a lot of asians aren't even more than a tan. they're actually a lot of asians that have the same skin color as many caucasian people..

mizkisses
07-13-2002, 05:52 PM
[quote:f2d2206be9="karizma"]>> im so white it worries me... i need some sun...but when i do get tanned im more of light apricot color haha...as for yellow...the only time im yellow is when i accidently mark myself with a highlighter =P[/quote:f2d2206be9]

don't worry, a lot of my asian friends think a paler skin tone is prettier because it makes you look pure? eh? i have no clue. but it makes me feel bad because i'm so tan. hmph.

lol yah, only time i'm ever yellow is when i accidentally mar myself with a highlighter...which is funny cuz..um..i do that a lot..heh..heh.. :oops:

Saiko
07-13-2002, 07:33 PM
My skin is just like Karizma's. I'm not deadly pale though, like last year. I'll just call myself pretty fair skinned.

LilCPChik
07-13-2002, 07:34 PM
azn r yellow cuz they r mongoliod(spell?) just like how they have small squint eyes

i 4get but i think its cuz asia its kind cold and there's a fatty layer riteunder the skin so it makes it yellowish and they squinty eyes is cuz there's alot of fat around the eyes.. i dunno how 2 explain...

and the being pale thing is like in the old times if u was pale u was rich cuz u didnt do ne work... so workers were dark and u didnt want 2 b dark.. just like 4 gurls being skinny got u a husband after u marryed if u fat u gotta rich husband.. yup i'm done talkin 4 now... latezz

mizkisses
07-13-2002, 08:22 PM
[quote:ba3e2971b7="LilCPChik"]azn r yellow cuz they r mongoliod(spell?) just like how they have small squint eyes

i 4get but i think its cuz asia its kind cold and there's a fatty layer riteunder the skin so it makes it yellowish and they squinty eyes is cuz there's alot of fat around the eyes.. i dunno how 2 explain...

and the being pale thing is like in the old times if u was pale u was rich cuz u didnt do ne work... so workers were dark and u didnt want 2 b dark.. just like 4 gurls being skinny got u a husband after u marryed if u fat u gotta rich husband.. yup i'm done talkin 4 now... latezz[/quote:ba3e2971b7]

that was actually incredibly interesting...

i never knew that..hmm..but that doesn't make sense because i have bigger eyes than my sister, who DOES have actually really small squinty eyes. and i'm a lot tanner than anybody in my family...

but that was interesting..

LilCPChik
07-14-2002, 09:02 PM
[quote:97cbe5b464="mizkisses"]that was actually incredibly interesting...

i never knew that..hmm..but that doesn't make sense because i have bigger eyes than my sister, who DOES have actually really small squinty eyes. and i'm a lot tanner than anybody in my family...

but that was interesting..[/quote:97cbe5b464]


i learn dat in school.. was seeing how much i membered... haha not much.. cuz there's more. idunno 2 much details... i dunt member the details.. was u born or like raise in the states? that makes a difference sum.. not much tho ...my bro N sis have small eyes 2.. my's r average.. average in da states haha and i'm dark not reallie dark or nuthin.. but i'm dark

mizkisses
07-15-2002, 01:42 AM
[quote:27f25f113a="LilCPChik"]

i learn dat in school.. was seeing how much i membered... haha not much.. cuz there's more. idunno 2 much details... i dunt member the details.. was u born or like raise in the states? that makes a difference sum.. not much tho ...my bro N sis have small eyes 2.. my's r average.. average in da states haha and i'm dark not reallie dark or nuthin.. but i'm dark[/quote:27f25f113a]

weird. yah, i was born here. so my relatives back in taiwan all think i look way more americanized than my sister, who was born in taiwan. except my mandarin is a lot better than hers. it's all weird...

but being born here makes a difference?

princess
07-15-2002, 01:49 AM
i dont think it can make that much of a difference look wise if u were born here in the states. i still look very much japanese...as does the rest of my family. the traits that set me apart here are the same traits that set my relatives apart from everyone else in japan (light brown hair, large eyes, etc.)

SunWuKong
07-16-2002, 11:13 PM
[quote:f81aab54d9="LilCPChik"]
i 4get but i think its cuz asia its kind cold and there's a fatty layer riteunder the skin so it makes it yellowish and they squinty eyes is cuz there's alot of fat around the eyes.. i dunno how 2 explain...
[/quote:f81aab54d9]


I have read of this theory alot. Even David Duke uses it to try to explain that Asians evolved to be smarter because increased intelligence was necessary to survive in cold climate (which subsequently justifies his belief that black people are therefore inherently less intelligent). But I don't really buy into it. Why is it that Asians have less body hair if we needed to survive in the cold? Why is it that certain European groups that also lived in harshly cold weather did not also develop thicker eyelids? Also, couldn't something [i:f81aab54d9]else[/i:f81aab54d9] have caused thicker eyelids to be an advantageous mutation?

But anyway, South Asians and alot of Southeast Asians consider themselves brown.

Saiko
07-18-2002, 10:26 AM
My dad and my sister are very brown. My mom and I are fair. My sister and I don't look much alike, save for the round face and our noses. I don't think where you're born does much, but I dunno. My sister was born in Vietnam but she was only there for 2 years. She has thick black hair, whereas I have fine brown hair. Her eyes are nearly black, and mine are light-dark (how does that work?) brown. I forget what else. But it's funny. She used to use skin lightening stuff, and used to wear coloured contacts (she says they were the same colour as my eyes) back in high school and university. When I was 4-5 and she was 16-17, I saw her going over some strands of her hair with brown marker and saying something about my hair. Funny how I remember this stuff and I don't even remember what happened 5 seconds ago.
If you take a quick glance at me, one or two people have told me, you could mistake me for a non-Asian girl. Weird.

mizkisses
07-22-2002, 05:17 PM
[quote:264d62d5a4="Saiko"]My dad and my sister are very brown. My mom and I are fair. My sister and I don't look much alike, save for the round face and our noses. I don't think where you're born does much, but I dunno. My sister was born in Vietnam but she was only there for 2 years. She has thick black hair, whereas I have fine brown hair. Her eyes are nearly black, and mine are light-dark (how does that work?) brown. I forget what else. But it's funny. She used to use skin lightening stuff, and used to wear coloured contacts (she says they were the same colour as my eyes) back in high school and university. When I was 4-5 and she was 16-17, I saw her going over some strands of her hair with brown marker and saying something about my hair. Funny how I remember this stuff and I don't even remember what happened 5 seconds ago.
If you take a quick glance at me, one or two people have told me, you could mistake me for a non-Asian girl. Weird.[/quote:264d62d5a4]

my sister looks extremely taiwanese. as for me, i'm constantly mistaken for vietnamese or filipino. mainly because i'm a lot darker and my eyes are a lot bigger than my sister's. my sister never tried to change her appearance though. i, however, didn't like having a flat asian nose when i was little and my mom always found me pinching and pulling my nose. i don't think it worked, but now i do have a rather big nose for an asian girl. *sobs* someone pointed that out and i felt hideous. but anyway. lol. i wonder if it really IS because of where you're born that changes it.

Faithless
07-01-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Shuriken@Jul 4 2002, 07:38 PM
Are whites really white? Are blacks really black? Is the ocean really blue? Is Jennifer Lopez really a singer?
Are Native Americans really red?

I can understand yellow as a unifying color, but damn -- Asians don't look good in yellow (so many Asian women say).

mr. x
07-01-2003, 12:42 AM
in simpsons, white people are yellow and asians are white

teaz0r
07-01-2003, 05:07 AM
i'm dark like a rice paddy farmer.
and if you've been to thailand,
i'm dark like a Soi Nana gogo
dancer.

Napoleon Chynamite
07-01-2003, 12:22 PM
tan women rule

pfc beansprout
07-01-2003, 12:38 PM
sheeit..us SE asians are dark as fuck...well, i'm not that dark, but i got my tint goin on...funny thing, i remember my white friends always sayin i had the "perfect tan" year round... B) i would joke w/them white girls who went tanning, "i see you...i see you tryin to get brown and look like me!" :D

CruX
07-07-2003, 02:12 PM
man im the darkest chinese around. I guess its because i live in az where it like living in an oven year round.

Jenny
07-07-2003, 03:22 PM
What's weird is when cartoonists make characters have skin color (real ones, not the crazy blue and purple characters like on Doug :D) they make Asians paler than Caucasians. I.E. The Simpsons

I prefer to say we're olive-skinned. ;)

yoMAMA
07-07-2003, 03:54 PM
most white folks in the simpsons are yellow :lol:

Deadpool
07-07-2003, 04:34 PM
:blink: When i place my hand on a Yellow pages phone book it dissapears.

Jenny
07-07-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Deadpool@Jul 7 2003, 03:34 PM
:blink: When i place my hand on a Yellow pages phone book it dissapears.
I can make a lemon disappear in my hands! :lol:

BeTheReds
07-07-2003, 08:30 PM
Do the fishtank thing.

Chinese Tourist
07-07-2003, 08:35 PM
some people think Chinese are just another kind of white.

some people do not register your features as 'asian', they only see a fuxed up white guy

in the past before europeans set about on their rinky dinky ships, Chinese were the ones who were called white ghosts and ocean devils

Uncle Tat
07-10-2003, 10:07 PM
TROLL

BigLew
09-13-2003, 07:18 AM
I'm gold.

amietron
09-13-2003, 09:08 AM
I'm gold.
you mean golden?

hooligan
09-13-2003, 11:49 AM
haha, i was in the japanese american national museum and i saw these old posters from the gold rush era. they called the asian americans that time the copper colored people. yeah i think i'm more of a copper than yellow, it's the california sun.

BigLew
09-14-2003, 07:32 PM
you mean golden?
Yeah that too.

Faithless
09-15-2003, 12:32 AM
The Yellow River by I Pei Free Li.

Faithless
09-23-2003, 12:47 AM
So, why do some Asian women say that Asian women shouldn't wear yellow?

purezero
09-23-2003, 02:48 AM
Hey, my friend today said that Asians tan grey. What's up with that?

Ogumo
09-23-2003, 04:37 AM
In the winter season my skin is white. In the summer season my skin gets more tan.

Bookworm011
09-23-2003, 09:12 AM
I'm Asian, but I'm not yellow.

kimpossible
09-23-2003, 09:55 AM
Back in the Bronze Age when I was a teen, my mom and I were at CVS* trying out makeup shades on our skin. She had brushed on some skin toned concealers on her hand and asked me which one looked closest to her skin tone. I pointed to one and said "That one looks kinda yellow." heh. Turned out I had picked the patch of her own skin between the make up stripes.

Normally I'm flour white without any sun. I brown like a mofo with any sunlight, as one stupid white guy pointed out once, but before I get brown I get a yellow cast on my skin. Like pre-tan or something.

*CVS is a drug store for you West Coasters.

Napoleon Chynamite
09-23-2003, 10:19 AM
I'm pasty and I usually get burned before I can build up any type of nice tan. There's a reason why I never wear shorts.

BigLew
09-23-2003, 07:37 PM
I get powder white when I don't use lotion. I am then the ashy Asian.

Irezumi Kiss
09-24-2003, 12:35 PM
Do any of the women here like getting tan lines, if you brown easily?

All my ex-girlfriends, didn't enjoy them because they would have preferred an even tan, but I thought they were the sexiest thing to have...because it emphasized the naughty bits that much more and made me wanna...eat them...

shy
09-24-2003, 12:37 PM
Hey, my friend today said that Asians tan grey. What's up with that?

that's a completely new one to me...

shy
09-24-2003, 12:39 PM
Do any of the women here like getting tan lines, if you brown easily?

All my ex-girlfriends, didn't enjoy them because they would have preferred an even tan, but I thought they were the sexiest thing to have...because it emphasized the naughty bits that much more and made me wanna...eat them...

i use to purposely wear thongs to the tanning salon (i only went to get a base and then to even out other tan lines elsewhere cause if i'm wearing a spaghetti strap dress, i'd rather have no tan lines).

i only liked the tan lines from a thong.

Green_Circle
09-26-2003, 06:46 AM
i use to purposely wear thongs to the tanning salon (i only went to get a base and then to even out other tan lines elsewhere cause if i'm wearing a spaghetti strap dress, i'd rather have no tan lines).

i only liked the tan lines from a thong.

I hear ya, Shy. :cool:

I've seen pics of me as a kid in the summertime. I was as dark as some of the people from India.

ChinaLama
09-26-2003, 11:17 PM
btw what do asian zombies look like?

AngryABCGirl
09-27-2003, 10:35 PM
I look Bronze when I tan. I like it. And then when it gets too dark it looks like shit.

Green_Circle
09-28-2003, 05:30 AM
An Asian girl said she wanted to get a sports car but they only had it in yellow. She said that yellow on yellow was overdoing it. Is she weird?

AliBabaIncorporated
09-28-2003, 06:06 AM
An Asian girl said she wanted to get a sports car but they only had it in yellow. She said that yellow on yellow was overdoing it. Is she weird?
Yellow Hondas were popular in Singapore a few years back. But at the same time, everyone thought it was kinda classless.

Green_Circle
09-28-2003, 08:25 AM
Yellow Hondas were popular in Singapore a few years back. But at the same time, everyone thought it was kinda classless.

Ever since she mentioned it, I've noticed there are more than a couple of car makers who offer their models in yellow. It must be somewhat popular if they can do that. I've even seen yellow hummers and SUVs too!

Filiprish
08-29-2004, 03:17 PM
Filipinos are "brown", not yellow. I'd say all SE Asians and most South Asians are "brown", as well.

krome
08-30-2004, 09:31 AM
I have read of this theory alot. Even David Duke uses it to try to explain that Asians evolved to be smarter because increased intelligence was necessary to survive in cold climate (which subsequently justifies his belief that black people are therefore inherently less intelligent). But I don't really buy into it. Why is it that Asians have less body hair if we needed to survive in the cold? Why is it that certain European groups that also lived in harshly cold weather did not also develop thicker eyelids? Also, couldn't something [i:f81aab54d9]else[/i:f81aab54d9] have caused thicker eyelids to be an advantageous mutation?

But anyway, South Asians and alot of Southeast Asians consider themselves brown.
I've heard the cold-weather theory too - there may be something to it, I dunno. But, it'd probably only be one factor of several.

Like, we might have less body hair because we evolved in a wetter climate - and wet hair breeds bacteria, takes longer to dry off (and thus warm up) and also makes you less hydrodynamic when swimming.

I'm not sure we have more skinfat either. I mean, Asian people are skinnier than whites overall, so how can that really be?

My question is where did our "yellow" designation first originate from? White people? Or self-referentially amongst ourselves?

Filiprish
08-30-2004, 10:57 AM
I've heard the cold-weather theory too - there may be something to it, I dunno. But, it'd probably only be one factor of several.
That's the thing, tho, doesn't it take just as much intelligence to survive in hot places where natural resources are scarce, like Africa. I suppose where nature resources are adundant one has a lot more to think about and the possiblities of innovation are endless.

Like, we might have less body hair because we evolved in a wetter climate - and wet hair breeds bacteria, takes longer to dry off (and thus warm up) and also makes you less hydrodynamic when swimming.
Interesting theory.

I'm not sure we have more skinfat either. I mean, Asian people are skinnier than whites overall, so how can that really be?
It could have something to do with Europe's bloody past.

My question is where did our "yellow" designation first originate from? White people? Or self-referentially amongst ourselves?
"White" people and yellow peril.

SunWuKong
08-30-2004, 12:47 PM
My question is where did our "yellow" designation first originate from? White people? Or self-referentially amongst ourselves?

i am not sure if the colour yellow was used to refer to ourselves, but in Chinese culture, the colour yellow is revered in more than a few instances - Huang Di as ruler, Huang He (Yellow River) and Huang Tu Di (yellow earth) as life-givers, etc etc.

krome
08-30-2004, 12:51 PM
i am not sure if the colour yellow was used to refer to ourselves, but in Chinese culture, the colour yellow is revered in more than a few instances - Huang Di as ruler, Huang He (Yellow River) and Huang Tu Di (yellow earth) as life-givers, etc etc.
That's what I was thinking - so it would seem to very possibly be an old self-label - not one assigned by YT?

Which is still odd that we would call ourselves "yellow" without whites or other races for relatve comparison. Cuz many Asians tend to be more whitish or brownish, I dunno. Maybe yellow is an average tone or "cast."

But same with many Amerindians - many are straight up dark brown like a Mexican. So, where'd they get "red" from?

Mr.Lum
08-30-2004, 12:51 PM
My dad is yellow. My grandpa was sort of brown, by grandma (not Asian) was kind of pale yellow, high yella I guess (she was Algerian). My aunt is yellow also. Lots of my Asian relatives (Hui/Chinese ones) are brown or really pale. I think asians can come in all shades. Look it southern Indians. They're dark as hell (not to be offensive).

kitty
08-30-2004, 12:53 PM
i see a yellow/golden tint to my skin. i think that the yellow thing came about because east asians are usually pale, but different from whites. slightly darker. not brown, not black, so yellow.

SunWuKong
08-30-2004, 12:54 PM
That's what I was thinking - so it would seem to very possibly be an old self-label - not one assigned by YT.

Which is still odd that we would call ourselves "yellow" without whites or other races for relatve comparison. Cuz many Asians tend to be more whitish or brownish, I dunno. Maybe yellow is an average tone or "cast."

But same with many Amerindians - many are straight up dark brown like a Mexican. So, where'd they get "red" from?

well, technically Huang He and soil had never been yellow either. just a very rich light brown colour.

but i don't know about red as a skin colour.

Mr.Lum
08-30-2004, 12:55 PM
I am a yellow-brown color. In the summer I am very brown, in the winter, fall and early spring I am very very pale, almost like the Asians on the simpsons.

krome
08-30-2004, 01:09 PM
well, technically Huang He and soil had never been yellow either. just a very rich light brown colour.

but i don't know about red as a skin colour.
Good point - I can see us averaging a "sandy" earth-tone yellow - just not the banana yellow most of us think of.

Same with Amerindians maybe - there is so much reddish rocks/dirt around the SW - they could have gotten associated with that. Of course, it's an earthy red - not strawberry red.

mndeg
08-30-2004, 01:58 PM
[quote:264d62d5a4="Saiko"]My dad and my sister are very brown. My mom and I are fair. My sister and I don't look much alike, save for the round face and our noses. I don't think where you're born does much, but I dunno. My sister was born in Vietnam but she was only there for 2 years. She has thick black hair, whereas I have fine brown hair. Her eyes are nearly black, and mine are light-dark (how does that work?) brown. I forget what else. But it's funny. She used to use skin lightening stuff, and used to wear coloured contacts (she says they were the same colour as my eyes) back in high school and university. When I was 4-5 and she was 16-17, I saw her going over some strands of her hair with brown marker and saying something about my hair. Funny how I remember this stuff and I don't even remember what happened 5 seconds ago.
If you take a quick glance at me, one or two people have told me, you could mistake me for a non-Asian girl. Weird.[/quote:264d62d5a4]

my sister looks extremely taiwanese. as for me, i'm constantly mistaken for vietnamese or filipino. mainly because i'm a lot darker and my eyes are a lot bigger than my sister's. my sister never tried to change her appearance though. i, however, didn't like having a flat asian nose when i was little and my mom always found me pinching and pulling my nose. i don't think it worked, but now i do have a rather big nose for an asian girl. *sobs* someone pointed that out and i felt hideous. but anyway. lol. i wonder if it really IS because of where you're born that changes it.
what does looking extremely taiwanese look like?

Kuchana
08-30-2004, 02:04 PM
I have a blue skintone...........:)

krome
08-30-2004, 02:06 PM
My dad and my sister are very brown. My mom and I are fair. My sister and I don't look much alike, save for the round face and our noses. I don't think where you're born does much, but I dunno. My sister was born in Vietnam but she was only there for 2 years. She has thick black hair, whereas I have fine brown hair. Her eyes are nearly black, and mine are light-dark (how does that work?) brown. I forget what else. But it's funny. She used to use skin lightening stuff, and used to wear coloured contacts (she says they were the same colour as my eyes) back in high school and university. When I was 4-5 and she was 16-17, I saw her going over some strands of her hair with brown marker and saying something about my hair. Funny how I remember this stuff and I don't even remember what happened 5 seconds ago.
If you take a quick glance at me, one or two people have told me, you could mistake me for a non-Asian girl. Weird.
Wow, coloring her hair with a marker? That is sooo Michael Jackson...not to mention ghetto. :biggrin:

No, I don't think your birthplace is going to affect your features much. Yea, it will affect your size due to different diets - but not your features or skin tone. I had some Mongolian woman in China ask me (seriously) if growing up in America made you look more Western. Lmao.

I guess she hadn't met many other Asian-Americans cuz I've seen plenty here who are about as far on the "Chinese end" of the spectrum as you can get, lol. Yes, it can make you a few inches taller due to all the dairy, meat & hormones - but it's not going to affect your facial features, etc.

tint
08-30-2004, 02:44 PM
i am not sure if the colour yellow was used to refer to ourselves, but in Chinese culture, the colour yellow is revered in more than a few instances - Huang Di as ruler, Huang He (Yellow River) and Huang Tu Di (yellow earth) as life-givers, etc etc.
It's my guess, but huang in huang di mean color of gold back then; the Chinese meaning as "the golden one." Huang he (Yellow River), because the muddy water is yellowish. We have to keep in mind that the concept of three races - White, Black, Asian - is a recent concept in human history origins in the West. I am pretty sure, the Chinese have no concept of this. What is regarded as Chinese has been about culture, not phenotype.

so_fee_ahh
08-30-2004, 03:03 PM
Hey, my friend today said that Asians tan grey. What's up with that?

Yeah, I have this ugly greyish tint to my skin in the winter... :frown:

krome
08-30-2004, 03:10 PM
It's my guess, but huang in huang di mean color of gold back then; the Chinese meaning as "the golden one." Huang he (Yellow River), because the muddy water is yellowish. We have to keep in mind that the concept of three races - White, Black, Asian - is a recent concept in human history origins in the West. I am pretty sure, the Chinese have no concept of this. What is regarded as Chinese has been about culture, not phenotype.
I dunno - why wouldn't they have just said "jin di" if they really meant gold, not "yellow," then?

artsfartsyjanet
08-30-2004, 03:26 PM
my grandfather is literally brown in color but from canton, china. so, he's an exception.

Napoleon Chynamite
08-30-2004, 05:03 PM
my grandfather is literally brown in color but from canton, china. so, he's an exception.

My dad's side is from Canton also but they're all pale as @#$%. Whenever I try to tan I turn pink. But I think a while back when I went to Hawaii, I was able to develop a fairly nice even color but it faded after I got back home =(

seanp
08-30-2004, 05:06 PM
Well, the flag of South Vietnam's yellow background supposedly means the skin tones of Vietnamese people..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/junkizme/vn-1944.gif

But seriously, Asian's skintone is hard to defined :biggrin:

rocketbunny
08-30-2004, 05:23 PM
Filipinos are "brown", not yellow. I'd say all SE Asians and most South Asians are "brown", as well.

Hey, I'm Filipino, and I'm not "brown." :tongue: My skin color is pretty light.

TB4000
08-30-2004, 05:30 PM
It's just the color they use to label, more or less with various phrases, i.e; "yellow peril", "the red man", etc. I'm sure that was explained early on in this thread, but I am much too self absorbed to search it out.

krome
08-30-2004, 05:46 PM
Well, the flag of South Vietnam's yellow background supposedly means the skin tones of Vietnamese people..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/junkizme/vn-1944.gif

But seriously, Asian's skintone is hard to defined :biggrin:
Vetnamese are red & yellow? :confused:

artsfartsyjanet
08-30-2004, 06:07 PM
My dad's side is from Canton also but they're all pale as @#$%. Whenever I try to tan I turn pink. But I think a while back when I went to Hawaii, I was able to develop a fairly nice even color but it faded after I got back home =(

My grandfather also looks like an old mr. miyagi from karate kid on the brown side. He also said that his father was brown too. =) The rest of my family is the typical east asian skin color. when i tan, my skin first turns a little pink, but i've been good about putting on sun block on when i went to florida.

Mr.Lum
08-30-2004, 06:17 PM
Vetnamese are red & yellow? :confused:

The background not the stripes, which would likely be the foreground.

ZiJing
08-30-2004, 07:27 PM
I dunno - why wouldn't they have just said "jin di" if they really meant gold, not "yellow," then?

perhaps jin doesn't reflect his supposed divinity, since huang would be more symbolic of the earth and such.

hmm....

SunWuKong
08-31-2004, 07:32 AM
It's my guess, but huang in huang di mean color of gold back then; the Chinese meaning as "the golden one." Huang he (Yellow River), because the muddy water is yellowish. .

no, it means yellow. it's a reference to huang tu di, the yellow earth. yellow was his imperial colour.

We have to keep in mind that the concept of three races - White, Black, Asian - is a recent concept in human history origins in the West. I am pretty sure, the Chinese have no concept of this. What is regarded as Chinese has been about culture, not phenotype

actually the Chinese has had contact with people of difference phenotypes for thousands of years, mainly middle easterners, northern nomads of mongolian origin, central Asians (who are more caucasoid). so it is possible that the Chinese had referred to themselves as "yellow", especially since the colour was a revered one. i am by no means a history scholar so i don't know for sure.

asvenus
09-02-2004, 06:48 AM
hahahah this board keeps the local undie shop in my business cos im wetting myself here....
so fee ahh...do you live in the city...if you do you will realise it is the film of pollution that rests on everyones skin regardless of race!!

skin tone labels are so strange....like 'high yellow' is refering to not some doped up chinese guy but a lights kinned Black person n the US..while in the Caribbean, Black lightskinned people are called 'red'....which in the US means Native Indian....bascially its all a bunch of crud....
there are tones that are more yellow and more red, green and even blue....these occur in various people of various ethnicities....

the theory of people needing more 'intelligence' or whatever to cope with cold climates...i heard exactly the opposite about a year ago!! it was some big experiment and was broadcast on tv in the UK...wierdness!!

so_fee_ahh
09-02-2004, 06:52 PM
I guess I'm as gray as the next guy, huh? That is sure reassuring, asvenus.

robotic
09-03-2004, 01:45 AM
to me, east asians look very pale, with very fair skin-tones! most of them, yes.
i think i have a mix of brown and yellow. most south asians are this "bronze" colour but i guess you can be a bit of both, too ^_^

there was this really cool poem that i once read--i can't remember the exact words, but it went something like this:


you're blue when you're cold.
you're green when you're sick.
you're red when you're embarrassed.
you're pale when you're scared.
and you call me colored.

i think this was written by malcolm x... yes, it's definite.

Napoleon Chynamite
09-03-2004, 02:24 AM
to me, east asians look very pale, with very fair skin-tones!

You say that as if it's a good thing :tongue: