Who invented noodles?

[kimpossible]

Title says it all.

[LoneSwordsman]

Chinese
Marco Polo brought it from china to italy

[ChairmanMah]

actually i thought it was always the chinese too but i was watching a show the other day that said they didn't.

the chinese made them popular by using them in many dishes and the italians adopted it but middle eastern people over 5000 years ago invented it to take preserved carbs on long desert journeys. They dried them to prevented them from going bad.

Chinese have been keeping their use alive for over 5000 years.

[pfc beansprout]

MARK PI! heh..j/k...no clue

[ism]

Hrmm no one ever consider that they were developed independently considering travelling those long distances wasn't exactly commonplace back in the day? I mean it's nice and all to claim a great advance in human history as "belonging" to a nation (or a peoples) but can't they just be shared?

[Craig]

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/flags/ch-flag.gif
Chinese

[babysakura]

Originally posted by LoneSwordsman@Jan 24 2003, 06:23 PM
Chinese
Marco Polo brought it from china to italy
i saw this too on a documentary about the silk road.. they didn't say Marco Polo but they did mention noodles as one of the many items which travelled from China to Europe.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by ism@Jan 24 2003, 11:06 PM
Hrmm no one ever consider that they were developed independently considering travelling those long distances wasn't exactly commonplace back in the day? I mean it's nice and all to claim a great advance in human history as "belonging" to a nation (or a peoples) but can't they just be shared?
yeah i agree. i think that's definitely a possibility.

[BaiginLong]

Originally posted by Craig@Jan 25 2003, 01:39 AM
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/flags/ch-flag.gif
Chinese
yeah but they didn't have that damn flag when they did it
me = very very anti-communist :angry:

[Green_Circle]

It also turns out that ketchup and mustard were invented by Chinese. I suspected ketchup all along because the Cantonese word for tomato is the derivative for ketchup.

:rolleyes:

[mizkisses]

what's tomato in cantonese?

i thought the chinese invented noodles. what's this about middle east and noodles? :blink:

[Arb Nam]

Do anyone also know who invented Instant noodles? ;)

[mizkisses]

i'm addicted to instant noodles. :blink:

[Chris]

Chinese

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Green_Circle@Jan 25 2003, 02:02 PM
It also turns out that ketchup and mustard were invented by Chinese. I suspected ketchup all along because the Cantonese word for tomato is the derivative for ketchup.

??????????????????????:rolleyes:
this doesn't make sense to me, because the cantonese term for ketchup is keh juhp, and in mandarin qie jiang, which means tomato sauce, and tomatos were introduced to china by westerners. tomatos are called faan keh, or fan qie in mandarin, which means "western eggplant", where keh jih, or qie zi in mandarin, means "eggplant" and faan means "western".

i suppose tomatos could have been introduced to china by westerners, then the chinese invented ketchup from them, then the idea went back to the west. but i'm more inclined to think that "ketchup", which has also been called "catsup" and "catchup" just so conveniently sounds like keh juhp.

[Craig]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Jan 25 2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Craig@Jan 25 2003, 01:39 AM
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/flags/ch-flag.gif
Chinese
yeah but they didn't have that damn flag when they did it
me = very very anti-communist :angry:
<img src='http://www.fotw.ca/images/cn-1912.gif[/img]
How about this flag instead ?
Zhongguo

[Craig]

Originally posted by tazadar@Jan 25 2003, 06:34 PM
Craig,

Which country is that?

edit: Oh Yeah! almost to 1000.

If my information is correct, then it's the original flag for the "Republic of China" after the Ching Dynasty.

[mizkisses]

wait, i thought we already established the fact that the middle east invented noodles?

[mizkisses]

someone said earlier in this thread that it was the middle east :confused:

[mizkisses]

i think aliens brought noodles to earth and it's a big conspiracy and everybody who eats noodles is being spied on by aliens from another planet.

yah.

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by tazadar@Jan 26 2003, 01:39 AM
I will give you a link to it if the information is online or if I can find it. Take it from me, it's not from the Middle East.
i think i saw it on the discovery channel. the source might be on it's website.

[SunWuKong]

who invented rice? :lol:

[mizkisses]

i did.

[thaite]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 25 2003, 09:17 PM
who invented rice? :lol:
Chef Boyardee?

[Adaon]

Originally posted by mizkisses@Jan 25 2003, 12:33 PM
i'm addicted to instant noodles. :blink:
me too

[mizkisses]

MSG is bad? yes?

[ism]

MSG is a substitute for quality ingredients. Evil, I tell you, evil!

[AliBabaIncorporated]

I remember reading a theory that Marco Polo didn't even go to China, he just went to the Middle East and bought a bunch of Chinese products and maps from the Arabs and read descriptions of China to fake having made a trip. Because, for example, in his descriptions of China he uses the Arabic names for places instead of some mangling of the Chinese pronunciation you might expect if he had actually gone there and asked natives. If it's true, it's quite possible he got noodles from the Arabs too.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Jan 26 2003, 03:43 AM
I remember reading a theory that Marco Polo didn't even go to China, he just went to the Middle East and bought a bunch of Chinese products and maps from the Arabs and read descriptions of China to fake having made a trip. Because, for example, in his descriptions of China he uses the Arabic names for places instead of some mangling of the Chinese pronunciation you might expect if he had actually gone there and asked natives. If it's true, it's quite possible he got noodles from the Arabs too.
i don't know much about marco polo beside the basics. is there historical evidence in China that he went there?

[Adaon]

Originally posted by mizkisses@Jan 26 2003, 12:27 AM
MSG is bad? yes?
quite so.......so many times worse for you than salt.....but it makes food nummy at times!! http://kolyana.com/forum/images/emotes/droolbeta5.gif

[mizkisses]

marco polo did/didn't go to china?

[Adaon]

He did