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Josh12
07-02-2002, 07:58 PM
Does anyone out there think Asian (men or women) that hang out with or date/are dating, etc. other races should be labeled.
"Self-hating. Sell out."

angelnympho
07-02-2002, 08:18 PM
i hope not.

princess
07-02-2002, 09:42 PM
no, thats small minded.

ImrkevinpakI
07-03-2002, 05:46 AM
Me, i have no choice. I have to date only korean girls. Ask why and i will tell.

achtungbaby
07-04-2002, 06:10 PM
[quote:05072ca04f="ImrkevinpakI"]Me, i have no choice. I have to date only korean girls. Ask why and i will tell.[/quote:05072ca04f]

Okay, I'll bite: why?

kasia
07-04-2002, 06:42 PM
only those who actually are self-hating sell-outs. but even then, you can't always blame a person for being a sell-out.

ImrkevinpakI
07-04-2002, 07:44 PM
[quote:2c76a7ddff="achtungbaby"][quote:2c76a7ddff="ImrkevinpakI"]Me, i have no choice. I have to date only korean girls. Ask why and i will tell.[/quote:2c76a7ddff]

Okay, I'll bite: why?[/quote:2c76a7ddff]

Because when i tried to date other asians in the past, chinese, japanese and viets...i got humilated by other koreans. Even the koreans who know me well threatened me by killing me and my gf if we got married. Damn, the koreans here are ignorant bastards. I can't believe the korean parents teach them that idea.

So, thats why i have to stick with koreans. In LA, i heard the koreans will date anyone. Here, its a hard line to cross. You got other koreans who will stare at you , at church and in other public places.

achtungbaby
07-04-2002, 09:38 PM
[quote:1d8130fa96="ImrkevinpakI"]

Even the koreans who know me well threatened me by killing me and my gf if we got married.
[/quote:1d8130fa96]

Threatened to kill [b:1d8130fa96]you[/b:1d8130fa96]? And these are your friends?

[quote:1d8130fa96="ImrkevinpakI"]I can't believe the korean parents teach them that idea.[/quote:1d8130fa96]

I dunno if they teach their kids to kill other Koreans who marry Koreans. I know they prefer to keep things "pure"...but I've never heard of them goin' off the deep end like that.

kasia
07-04-2002, 09:58 PM
[quote:2c5042f31b="achtungbaby"][quote:2c5042f31b="ImrkevinpakI"]

Even the koreans who know me well threatened me by killing me and my gf if we got married.
[/quote:2c5042f31b]

Threatened to kill [b:2c5042f31b]you[/b:2c5042f31b]? And these are your friends?

[quote:2c5042f31b="ImrkevinpakI"]I can't believe the korean parents teach them that idea.[/quote:2c5042f31b]

I dunno if they teach their kids to kill other Koreans who marry Koreans. I know they prefer to keep things "pure"...but I've never heard of them goin' off the deep end like that.[/quote:2c5042f31b]

can't get any more purer than dating a chinese and getting back to your [b:2c5042f31b]real [/b:2c5042f31b]roots. i'm just kidding! please don't hurt me!

achtungbaby
07-04-2002, 11:51 PM
[quote:c83d7e7a6c="kasia"]

can't get any more purer than dating a chinese and getting back to your [b:c83d7e7a6c]real [/b:c83d7e7a6c]roots. i'm just kidding! please don't hurt me![/quote:c83d7e7a6c]

Yeah but we [b:c83d7e7a6c]really [/b:c83d7e7a6c]wanted to go back to our roots, shouldn't we just hump some gorillas?

It's called evolution, baby :D

deez nuts
07-05-2002, 05:05 AM
That's weird ImrkevinpakI. I dated more Korean women than I did Chinese women. And from my experience, their friends and their families were ok with it. Are you saying this happens in Korea?

The only problem that I encountered where the parents didn't really approve of me was that I am agnostic while she was raised Christian, not because I was Chinese.

ImrkevinpakI
07-05-2002, 05:29 AM
[quote:e1b5be9f16="achtungbaby"][quote:e1b5be9f16="ImrkevinpakI"]

Even the koreans who know me well threatened me by killing me and my gf if we got married.
[/quote:e1b5be9f16]

Threatened to kill [b:e1b5be9f16]you[/b:e1b5be9f16]? And these are your friends?

[quote:e1b5be9f16="ImrkevinpakI"]I can't believe the korean parents teach them that idea.[/quote:e1b5be9f16]

I dunno if they teach their kids to kill other Koreans who marry Koreans. I know they prefer to keep things "pure"...but I've never heard of them goin' off the deep end like that.[/quote:e1b5be9f16]


They were my friends..not anymore.

I meant koreans who are racist and narrow minded in my area will make fun of other koreans who date outside their nationality. Parents teach their sons/daughters not to date outside. Guess its because they see alot of korean girls with white guys and that pisses them off.

ImrkevinpakI
07-05-2002, 05:31 AM
[quote:550159ccf2="Chasiubao_Boy"]That's weird ImrkevinpakI. I dated more Korean women than I did Chinese women. And from my experience, their friends and their families were ok with it. Are you saying this happens in Korea?

The only problem that I encountered where the parents didn't really approve of me was that I am agnostic while she was raised Christian, not because I was Chinese.[/quote:550159ccf2]

I dated some chinese girls in the past and they were real nice. Some of my friends had stereotypes about why they were bitchy and i told him, all girls have mood swings once in a while...j/k

Somehow , some korean parents don't like that idea. The only ones who don't have that problems are the nice koreans or the ones who are married to outside their race themselves.

thaite
07-05-2002, 01:07 PM
Race isn't an issue for me. My only criteria is that she has to be breathing, and even that's not set in stone -- I've broken that rule, one... maybe three times.

kasia
07-05-2002, 02:33 PM
[quote:4ea87ac593="buoywonder"]Race isn't an issue for me. My only criteria is that she has to be breathing, and even that's not set in stone -- I've broken that rule, one... maybe three times.[/quote:4ea87ac593]

is your sister breathing?

kasia
07-05-2002, 02:34 PM
[quote:479e2f0fed="buoywonder"]Race isn't an issue for me. My only criteria is that she has to be breathing, and even that's not set in stone -- I've broken that rule, one... maybe three times.[/quote:479e2f0fed]

is your sister breathing?

thaite
07-05-2002, 04:06 PM
I don't have a sister.

DaBestSpooner
07-07-2002, 01:51 AM
Stop being a pussy! why do you even associate with people who threaten you life for dating a non korean? What kind of riff raff do you surround yourself with?

[quote:2d27c3fe9b="ImrkevinpakI"][quote:2d27c3fe9b="achtungbaby"][quote:2d27c3fe9b="ImrkevinpakI"]Me, i have no choice. I have to date only korean girls. Ask why and i will tell.[/quote:2d27c3fe9b]

Okay, I'll bite: why?[/quote:2d27c3fe9b]

Because when i tried to date other asians in the past, chinese, japanese and viets...i got humilated by other koreans. Even the koreans who know me well threatened me by killing me and my gf if we got married. Damn, the koreans here are ignorant bastards. I can't believe the korean parents teach them that idea.

So, thats why i have to stick with koreans. In LA, i heard the koreans will date anyone. Here, its a hard line to cross. You got other koreans who will stare at you , at church and in other public places.[/quote:2d27c3fe9b]

artsfartsyjanet
08-12-2002, 09:49 PM
I don't think they should be labeled sell-outs. It depends on people's intentions though, but overall, no.



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Ch8Li179
08-13-2002, 10:54 PM
Asians that are dating a person thats another race because they are or at least think they are in love then congrats in your relationship! But if you are one of those pepole trying to have a mixed kid for the hell of it or because it's the "in thing" then it could be considered as selling out. It depends on your real intentions.

artsfartsyjanet
08-14-2002, 11:17 AM
I actually knew a person who just thought mixed kids were so cute... but now that i think about it, who would want to fall in love with someone whose intentions are to have these children? ick ick.... Personally, I think all children are a blessing. It's amazing what narrow-minded people can think and do....



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kimpossible
08-14-2002, 11:40 AM
I'm totally against it.






j/k

SunWuKong
08-14-2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Aug 14 2002, 01:40 PM
I'm totally against it.






j/k
hahhahhah!!


hey i'm actually 1/16th english. do i count as being mixed? :P my great-great-grandmother was english. my great-great-grandfather went to work in england, married an english woman, and had some kids there. later, he convinced her to go back to china with him, saying how china was so much fun and everything, but in reality, things were really tough back then. to add to that, when she got to china, she found out that he already had a wife there. but she still stayed in china for years without knowing how to speak cantonese. she went back to england only when she was very old. even my grandmother (her granddaughter) remembers her.

thaite
08-15-2002, 11:45 AM
Doesn't matter who I have kids with, the kids are gonna be mixed-race anyway. Might as well be ready for it.

angel nympho
08-15-2002, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by DaBestSpooner@Jul 7 2002, 08:51 AM
Stop being a pussy! why do you even associate with people who threaten you life for dating a non korean? What kind of riff raff do you surround yourself with?

[quote:2d27c3fe9b="ImrkevinpakI"][quote:2d27c3fe9b="achtungbaby"][quote:2d27c3fe9b="ImrkevinpakI"]Me, i have no choice. I have to date only korean girls. Ask why and i will tell.[/quote:2d27c3fe9b]

Okay, I'll bite: why?[/quote:2d27c3fe9b]

Because when i tried to date other asians in the past, chinese, japanese and viets...i got humilated by other koreans. Even the koreans who know me well threatened me by killing me and my gf if we got married. Damn, the koreans here are ignorant bastards. I can't believe the korean parents teach them that idea.

So, thats why i have to stick with koreans. In LA, i heard the koreans will date anyone. Here, its a hard line to cross. You got other koreans who will stare at you , at church and in other public places.[/quote:2d27c3fe9b]
werd. u always ask for permission from your friends?

kasia
08-15-2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by artsfartsyjanet@Aug 14 2002, 06:17 PM
I actually knew a person who just thought mixed kids were so cute... but now that i think about it, who would want to fall in love with someone whose intentions are to have these children? ick ick.... Personally, I think all children are a blessing. It's amazing what narrow-minded people can think and do....
i know lots of people who are like this....i.e., all my friends growing up. pretty bad, eh? everyone wanted a white boyfriend just because they wanted to have cute little hapa kids. and, of course, they're perspective of 'cute', again, has to do with society defining beauty as 'white beauty'.

kimpossible
08-19-2002, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by kasia@Aug 15 2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by artsfartsyjanet@Aug 14 2002, 06:17 PM
I actually knew a person who just thought mixed kids were so cute... but now that i think about it, who would want to fall in love with someone whose intentions are to have these children? ick ick.... Personally, I think all children are a blessing. &nbsp;It's amazing what narrow-minded people can think and do....
i know lots of people who are like this....i.e., all my friends growing up. pretty bad, eh? everyone wanted a white boyfriend just because they wanted to have cute little hapa kids. and, of course, they're perspective of 'cute', again, has to do with society defining beauty as 'white beauty'.
:huh: Serious? Man, are they misled. You never know how hapa kids will turn out. I've seen some funky ones.

achtungbaby
08-19-2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Aug 19 2002, 11:51 AM
You never know how hapa kids will turn out. I've seen some funky ones.
Those damn freaky deaky hapa kids!

SunWuKong
08-19-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Aug 19 2002, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by kasia@Aug 15 2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by artsfartsyjanet@Aug 14 2002, 06:17 PM
I actually knew a person who just thought mixed kids were so cute... but now that i think about it, who would want to fall in love with someone whose intentions are to have these children? ick ick.... Personally, I think all children are a blessing. It's amazing what narrow-minded people can think and do....
i know lots of people who are like this....i.e., all my friends growing up. pretty bad, eh? everyone wanted a white boyfriend just because they wanted to have cute little hapa kids. and, of course, they're perspective of 'cute', again, has to do with society defining beauty as 'white beauty'.
:huh: Serious? Man, are they misled. You never know how hapa kids will turn out. I've seen some funky ones.
hey question:

is it true that "hapa" is actually used derogatorily in japan? my irish american friend has a sister who is married to a japanese professor and they live in japan. she said that her hapa nephew and niece (they are little kids) get picked on for being mixed and the kids call them "hapa" as an insult. when i said that alot of mixed asian american people, even non-japanese ones, identify themselves as "hapa" with a sort of pride, she was totally surprised.

angel nympho
08-19-2002, 12:25 PM
Well, with half kids, sometimes its hit or miss: absolutely gorgeous... or damn nasty. =x

kimpossible
08-19-2002, 12:42 PM
When I was a kid on the East Coast, I grew up with the term to describe myself as AmerAsian. It's what my mom told me I was so I used it. I moved to the West Coast when I was about 18 and hooked up with some people in the Japanese-American community. Some were Hawaiian. That's where I heard the term hapa and hapahoule. I use hapa around ABCs, hapa and other various Asians who I think will know the term. I use eurasian or AmerAsian around Americans, or if they get really confused I just say think of me as Hawaiian if it makes it easier.

Around Asia-Asians, I use foreigner or American to describe myself. There is an archaic term in Japanese, konketsu, that literally means mixed blood and has conotations of a racial epithet. Never heard of the hapa thing being used as an insult and I'm really surprised that the kids were made fun of for being mixed. Usually white mixed Japanese are treated like celebrities. I know some halfsies in Taiwan that are picked on.

Hapa isn't really a pride thing for me. It's just better than AmerAsian or 'other' IMHO. I'll change my description based on who I'm talking to and the terms they'll understand or prefer.

It could totally be possible that hapa could be used as a epithet. In Japan, unless you are 100% from Japan Japanese, you can be labeled a foreigner or face discrimination. I know nisei who are rejected as foreign trash by their own relatives. Fucked up, huh?

SunWuKong
08-19-2002, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Aug 19 2002, 02:42 PM
Never heard of the hapa thing being used as an insult and I'm really surprised that the kids were made fun of for being mixed. Usually white mixed Japanese are treated like celebrities.
well my friend said that her sister and brother-in-law live in an area that's not very urban. maybe that explains it.

kimpossible
08-19-2002, 12:49 PM
Jeez, I just read my post. English skills go bad. Must eat. Blood sugar low. Waiting for rice to finish cooking.

thaite
08-19-2002, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by achtungbaby@Aug 19 2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Aug 19 2002, 11:51 AM
You never know how hapa kids will turn out. I've seen some funky ones.
Those damn freaky deaky hapa kids!
No kidding, I mean look at them!

http://idisk.mac.com/buoywonder/Public/hapafaces3.jpg

FREAKS!

...except for that guy way in the back. He's damn hot.

blkazngirl
09-25-2002, 07:38 PM
Race mixing will always be. One day only race on a form will be human.

My family is so mixed we look like the UN. :D

deez nuts
09-25-2002, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by blkazngirl@Sep 25 2002, 10:38 PM
Race mixing will always be. One day only race on a form will be human.


That was deep.

AliBabaIncorporated
09-26-2002, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by blkazngirl@Sep 26 2002, 03:38 AM
Race mixing will always be. One day only race on a form will be human.

My family is so mixed we look like the UN. :D
about 40% of world's population lives in India or China. neither of those countries accepts immigrants on a large scale. ergo, mixed-race marriages and births as a percentage of total population is almost non-existant.

in contrast, most countries with a large mixed-race population or many mixed-race marriages relative to population size, also have a falling overall birthrate.

don't need to justify being mixed-race by claiming "one day the whole world will look like me."

DaBestSpooner
09-26-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by buoywonder@Aug 19 2002, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by achtungbaby@Aug 19 2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Aug 19 2002, 11:51 AM
You never know how hapa kids will turn out. I've seen some funky ones.
Those damn freaky deaky hapa kids!
No kidding, I mean look at them!

http://idisk.mac.com/buoywonder/Public/hapafaces3.jpg

FREAKS!

...except for that guy way in the back. He's damn hot.
is the guy in the blue Julian Lennon?