PDA

View Full Version : Trouble between Koreans and Japanese


ImrkevinpakI
07-01-2002, 05:10 PM
Recently my buddy offended alot of japanese students. No offense to anyone of japanese origin here, but he made the statement " damn, if those guys ( japanese soldiers ) raped our korean women, look at the fine japanese girls in porn flicks...why not rape them back? " some japanese buddies that i have heard that statement because they know korean because i taught them korean and they taught me japanese back. It got into a fist fight and we had some people getting arrested at our college. Even though i am in korea, theres a summer school going on in college.

Any comments? Also, in charlotte, there are alot of antiamerican and antijapanese talks there. Why the hate? Because of the past? I got friends who are japanese, russians, swed, brasil and from the middle eastern area.

kasia
07-01-2002, 05:15 PM
personally i feel the same way towards japan as a nation because of the nanking massacre. they still refuse to apologize for their atrocities, yet have constantly asked for reparations for the united states. a little hypocritical, i think.

angelnympho
07-01-2002, 07:30 PM
no country's perfect. *shrug*

achtungbaby
07-01-2002, 07:38 PM
[quote:9d0de346bf="angelnympho"]no country's perfect. *shrug*[/quote:9d0de346bf]

That's what I tell Jews when they talk about Germany! :D jk.

Indeed, no country is perfect; some just have more sordid histories than others.

angelnympho
07-01-2002, 07:44 PM
[quote:bdb96d64a8="achtungbaby"]That's what I tell Jews when they talk about Germany! :D jk.

Indeed, no country is perfect; some just have more sordid histories than others.[/quote:bdb96d64a8]
very true... but hey! im an american!!! so none of this has to do with me. :D

DaBestSpooner
07-01-2002, 08:04 PM
Cant blame people on an individual level, blame the government. Take us, the USA(FYI I renounced my citizenship orally) The whole world hates us, but we didnt do shit, its our leaders who get us in the deep.

inkpainter
07-01-2002, 08:13 PM
true...true...spooner. I think every person/country should be accountable for their crimes...seems there are quite a few double standards set....the bottom line is political gain and the almighty $$$

achtungbaby
07-01-2002, 10:55 PM
[quote:9cf558c30c="angelnympho"]
very true... but hey! im an american!!! so none of this has to do with me. :D[/quote:9cf558c30c]

Hey...you look Asian to me!

angelnympho
07-02-2002, 03:19 AM
[quote:6a7604902e="achtungbaby"]Hey...you look Asian to me![/quote:6a7604902e]

born and raised here. just because my parents weren't shouldn't take anything away from my value as an american citizen. maybe my ethnicity is asian, but my nationality is american.

deez nuts
07-02-2002, 06:13 AM
I do have to say this. Ever since I started dating, my grandparents were very adamant on me not dating a Japanese woman. As time went on, they made it clear that they were against me marrying a Japanese woman. They told me they didn't care what race I married so long that she was not Japanese. Ok, curious now, I sat down and talked to my grandfather. His reasoning was that he was afraid that the ancestors of the Japanese bride might have killed a member of my ancestral tree during World War two (I being Chinese). That makes for I guess bad karma for us, worse for me, I suppose.

My parents on the other hand don't really care whom I date. Their stance on the Japanse issue is that time moves on and war is never pretty. But, I can kinda understand where my grandparents are coming from, since they were around for the Japanese invasion on China. So, I think its the older generation that harbors animosity.

achtungbaby
07-02-2002, 09:37 AM
[quote:6e817476da="angelnympho"]just because my parents weren't shouldn't take anything away from my value as an american citizen. maybe my ethnicity is asian, but my nationality is american.[/quote:6e817476da]

yellowworld.org is definitely for you then! :D

kasia
07-02-2002, 10:28 AM
[quote:f1bef2dea4="achtungbaby"][quote:f1bef2dea4="angelnympho"]no country's perfect. *shrug*[/quote:f1bef2dea4]

That's what I tell Jews when they talk about Germany! :D jk.

Indeed, no country is perfect; some just have more sordid histories than others.[/quote:f1bef2dea4]

eh, germany's taken many more steps than japan to apologize.

no country is perfect. but some are better than others.

Saiko
07-02-2002, 12:21 PM
My parents really don't care who I date or marry. I could marry a mentally insane hobo for all they care. As long as I'm happy. But my dad shows some negativity in his comments about the Vietnamese. He doesn't go out and spit in their faces. In fact, he treats them like any other person. But sometimes he goes "Those damn Viets!" I don't know how he feels about the Japanese, but he might not be so fond of them either.

princess
07-02-2002, 04:00 PM
while im very proud of being japanese, i do look down on some of the things my country has committed. but as its been said before, its up to the government to right their wrongs. i despise it when people equate me with the bad things that japan has done. every country has a dark chapter in its history, but ordinary citizens have no control over whats done.

kasia
07-02-2002, 04:27 PM
definitely. i don't direct any of my anger towards the citizens of Japan. just the government itself.

princess
07-02-2002, 04:36 PM
[quote:aa44659cf5="kasia"]definitely. i don't direct any of my anger towards the citizens of Japan. just the government itself.[/quote:aa44659cf5]

thats good. i think its really mature when people can separate and distinguish between such things. my first taste of the tension surrounding this whole situation was when i was 7 and blissfully unaware of it. i became friends with a korean girl and when i was at her house and my mom came to pick me up, they asked her never to bring me back again. it was so hurtful....sucky thing to throw in the face of a 7 year old. fortunately my friend and i didnt let that get in the way. 10 years later we're still close.

achtungbaby
07-02-2002, 05:35 PM
[quote:e29735b9e9="princess"]while im very proud of being japanese, i do look down on some of the things my country has committed.[/quote:e29735b9e9]

I think it's good that you're proud, in spite of the Japanese government's history of oppression, because like you mention later (I think), it's important to separate these types of things. I'd even go so far to say that it's important -- maybe even imperative in this day -- to separate the personal from the political. kasia will probably disagree with me on this.

I never really knew why my parents were so anti-Japanese when I was growing up. I think i clued in a lot more though, when my whole family went to go eat at a sushi bar waaaaaay back in the day, and my grandmother was able to speak with the chefs in fluent Japanese, which weirded me out. But fortunately, I think bitterness fades over time. Today, while I do remember my mom ranting about how important it was for the S. Korean soccer team to be able to play in Japan and have the Korean national anthem heard, overall, she's very much chilled.

kasia
07-02-2002, 05:45 PM
[quote:86a8500c0a="achtungbaby"][quote:86a8500c0a="princess"]while im very proud of being japanese, i do look down on some of the things my country has committed.[/quote:86a8500c0a]

I think it's good that you're proud, in spite of the Japanese government's history of oppression, because like you mention later (I think), it's important to separate these types of things. I'd even go so far to say that it's important -- maybe even imperative in this day -- to separate the personal from the political. kasia will probably disagree with me on this.
[/quote:86a8500c0a]

i disagree with you to the extent that i believe, should some of the citizens feel that their government has no obligation to apologize for the suffering their country has caused, it would reflect upon their moral character.

ChinaLama
07-02-2002, 10:58 PM
I think no one can COMPLETELy separate the actions of a country's CITIZENRY from its Government. This is ESPECIALLY true for the US cuz who put our "leaders" into office? Sure sure "the corporations" or "the special interests" but they don't press levers, PEOPLE do...ORDINARY people at that.

But it goes for Japan too. Japanese soldiers could choose to be especially cruel to certain people (i doubt they were ORDERED to rape and kill women or else face strong penalties themselves), or they could CHOOSE to enlist in the army, and I'm SURE a lot of "ordinary" Japanese thought just as much as their leaders that the Chinks and Gooks were hunks of flesh to butcher and fuck. In fact, maybe their leaders were even playing to racist sentiments among a good portion of the people to go and conquer Asia. Certainly anti-Semitism was pretty widespread in Germany when the Nazis got elected.

So, while I DON'T believe someone of a certain nationality is automatically loyal to his gov't or responsible for its actions, I don't believe in "oh well we should only hold gov'ts responsible but NEVER hold a people responsible," cuz every gov't that lasts a long time depends on SOME sort of support...some sort of legitimacy, that it gathers from the people. Doesn't mean ALL the people or even a vast majority, maybe just a very strong minority, but nevertheless a portion of the people SHOULD be held responsible for the actions of their gov't, even if not to the same extent.

princess
07-02-2002, 11:39 PM
[quote:292643a169="ChinaLama"]I think no one can COMPLETELy separate the actions of a country's CITIZENRY from its Government. This is ESPECIALLY true for the US cuz who put our "leaders" into office? Sure sure "the corporations" or "the special interests" but they don't press levers, PEOPLE do...ORDINARY people at that.

But it goes for Japan too. Japanese soldiers could choose to be especially cruel to certain people (i doubt they were ORDERED to rape and kill women or else face strong penalties themselves), or they could CHOOSE to enlist in the army, and I'm SURE a lot of "ordinary" Japanese thought just as much as their leaders that the Chinks and Gooks were hunks of flesh to butcher and fuck. In fact, maybe their leaders were even playing to racist sentiments among a good portion of the people to go and conquer Asia. Certainly anti-Semitism was pretty widespread in Germany when the Nazis got elected.

So, while I DON'T believe someone of a certain nationality is automatically loyal to his gov't or responsible for its actions, I don't believe in "oh well we should only hold gov'ts responsible but NEVER hold a people responsible," cuz every gov't that lasts a long time depends on SOME sort of support...some sort of legitimacy, that it gathers from the people. Doesn't mean ALL the people or even a vast majority, maybe just a very strong minority, but nevertheless a portion of the people SHOULD be held responsible for the actions of their gov't, even if not to the same extent.[/quote:292643a169]

and for how long should they be held responsible? r u saying that even tho my family's been here since the beginning of the 19th century that we should be held responsible? i think not.

achtungbaby
07-02-2002, 11:44 PM
[quote:469fd8dda0="ChinaLama"]Sure sure "the corporations" or "the special interests" but they don't press levers, PEOPLE do...ORDINARY people at that.[/quote:469fd8dda0]

I'm getting more cynical by the hour, and while very typical to say, I do think special interests shape ordinary people. The only time ordinary people get around to pressing levers is when they elect guys like Jessie Ventura to office; jump on the bandwagon for term limits; write idiotic Propositions into law in California.

[quote:469fd8dda0="ChinaLama"]So, while I DON'T believe someone of a certain nationality is automatically loyal to his gov't or responsible for its actions...[/quote:469fd8dda0]

But I think we live in an age where almost universally, we have that luxury of questioning authority. Now, I'm no Nazi ([i:469fd8dda0]or am I[/i:469fd8dda0]?!?) but I cannot say beyond reasonable doubt that had I been living in Nazi Germany, that I would not have participated in a slaughter or two. And this is not a testament to me actually being a psycho and not the webmaster, but more to the power of propaganda. It's a powerful tool that draws us to watch and believe trash like MTV or believe that tobacco companies are run by The Man.

[quote:469fd8dda0="ChinaLama"]Doesn't mean ALL the people or even a vast majority, maybe just a very strong minority, but nevertheless a portion of the people SHOULD be held responsible for the actions of their gov't, even if not to the same extent.[/quote:469fd8dda0]

So do you think we should be punishing (some might say we are) Afghans, for example? I tend to think that in the cases where you've seen a country inflict these horrors of humanity, they also led with an iron fist at home.

princess
07-02-2002, 11:50 PM
[quote:0685cc1560="achtungbaby"]
But I think we live in an age where almost universally, we have that luxury of questioning authority. Now, I'm no Nazi ([i:0685cc1560]or am I[/i:0685cc1560]?!?) but I cannot say beyond reasonable doubt that had I been living in Nazi Germany, that I would not have participated in a slaughter or two. And this is not a testament to me actually being a psycho and not the webmaster, but more to the power of propaganda. It's a powerful tool that draws us to watch and believe trash like MTV or believe that tobacco companies are run by The Man.
[/quote:0685cc1560]

well said. i bet to some extent i woulda been brainwashed too, tho i doubt murder is in my power.

ChinaLama
07-03-2002, 12:02 AM
Well, an individual family may not be responsible, regarding Princess's point.

But the people at that time...they're not all responsible but "the people" as a whole ARE...Nazis would have been FAR less effective if there were a significant number of Germans who resisted in small ways. Maybe not hide Jews and get executed, but be less cooperative about ratting on Jews, maybe be less enthusiastic butchering people, maybe try to find excuses not to go on death marches, etc.

Maybe Tojo wouldn't have come to power if almost NO Japanese person believed that their race was meant to rule Asia or the world (and by race, I mean just the Japanese).

Maybe we wouldn't have war in Afghanistan and go and take town the Taliban and try to find excuses for blowing up Saddam if there wasn't STRONG popular demand for blood. Doesn't matter if they're not fully informed--it matters that THEY want blood, not that the newspapers want blood or the government wants blood. In fact, if it WEREN't for activists (read: educated people) influencing our leaders, we'd have MORE violence because popular sentiment doesn't stop to think about racist implications or sensitivity or whatever. They think kick the shit out of the towelhead.

Vincent Chin wasn't killed by a government official.

princess
07-03-2002, 12:10 AM
[quote:04e7bda264="ChinaLama"]

But the people at that time...they're not all responsible but "the people" as a whole ARE...Nazis would have been FAR less effective if there were a significant number of Germans who resisted in small ways. Maybe not hide Jews and get executed, but be less cooperative about ratting on Jews, maybe be less enthusiastic butchering people, maybe try to find excuses not to go on death marches, etc.
[/quote:04e7bda264]

true, but i think as generations pass and the old of the time period die out that the current people as a whole should lose the blame and it should then be moved onto the governments turf.

ChinaLama
07-03-2002, 12:14 AM
Well, as time goes on, shouldn't ALL the blame leave? i mean why would you stick the blame on a CURRENT government for its PAST actions?

and like Kasia said, the blame stays w/ both gov't and ppl sometimes if they don't acknowledge their wrongs. Like how a lot of Japanese ppl just refuse to even THINk about the suffering of comfort women or the Nanking Massacre....maybe theres some shirking of moral responsibility there.

But at the same time, I dont believe in associating nationality w/ a specific mentality or innate loyalty to a specific gov't. I was pissed off at how racist the media was in blanket characterizations of Serbs as genocidal and bloodthirsty conquerors back in '96 before we started bombing Serbia.

achtungbaby
07-03-2002, 12:15 AM
[quote:09674c9fe0="ChinaLama"]Maybe we wouldn't have war in Afghanistan and go and take town the Taliban and try to find excuses for blowing up Saddam if there wasn't STRONG popular demand for blood.[/quote:09674c9fe0]

Ahh, but a las, unfortunately, people suck -- even me! Someday, probably in the next 10 years or so, after Latinos have become the overwhelming majority in California, people will start asking the question, "Did you support Proposition 209 (the prop that basically told Latinos that they were no good)...? And they'll probably ask it in a very accusing manner, even though nearly 60% of California voted for that measure that's probably one of the most blatantly racist pieces of legislation of recent history that sought to accomplish little more than to tell Mexicans to get the hell out of the state (unless we needed their labor). I remember being in student government at the time, helping campaign against it, and in the end, I just felt that people sometimes [i:09674c9fe0]don't[/i:09674c9fe0] really want the truth, as much as MTV might want to infect us with their brand of it; they want simple, easy answers. "If those damn Mexicans weren't hording our welfare and stealing health benefits and education, we wouldn't be in a recession!" is a distant but nontheless full blood relative of, "If we just wipe those Koreans of their culture and language, everything will be peachy."

Sorry for the long blah-rant! I hate Prop. 209:(

ImrkevinpakI
07-03-2002, 03:44 AM
I don't hate the people, i hate their government and what they opposed to do , apologize to korea , china and other asian countries they've harmed in the past.

kasia
07-03-2002, 09:26 AM
i hear chinalama's anger. i still have family in nanking. some of my ancestors were raped with swords by japanese soilders while their family members--husband and kids--were forced to watch.

it's an outrage that they won't even issue an apology. and this is definitely a different government than the government that did this many decades ago. but the responsiblity to make reparations remains.

ImrkevinpakI
07-03-2002, 11:12 AM
[quote:401ce97939="kasia"]i hear chinalama's anger. i still have family in nanking. some of my ancestors were raped with swords by japanese soilders while their family members--husband and kids--were forced to watch.

it's an outrage that they won't even issue an apology. and this is definitely a different government than the government that did this many decades ago. but the responsiblity to make reparations remains.[/quote:401ce97939]

My hapkido instructor told me that even the korean fathers had to rape their own daughters....and like you mentioned, forced to watch the gruesome event.

It sucks alot. But, those people died and will pay a high price in hell and those who haven't , will live with their crimes....in discourage. I can't imagine a japanese soldier living a normal life now....

kasia
07-03-2002, 11:21 AM
if anything, we need more documentaries on these japanese war crimes. i say forgive, but don't forget.

achtungbaby
07-04-2002, 06:10 PM
[quote:37719c1825="kasia"]
i say forgive, but don't forget.[/quote:37719c1825]

Werd x1000...

SunWuKong
07-14-2002, 11:14 PM
[quote:8ccb65dbce="angelnympho"]very true... but hey! im an american!!! so none of this has to do with me. :D[/quote:8ccb65dbce]


maybe you shouldn't be so extreme as to say it has nothing to do with you. you recognize your ethnicity is "asian", which means asian history is a part of your history.

bluecollarjap
10-14-2002, 09:47 AM
whats up with this here in the states. last i remember, people came to the states to start a new and better life for themselves. i see this with europeans too. my aunt is an old world european. i catch her making comments about other eurpeans, "austrians are careless, italians are clanny, greeks aren't really white". jeeze, why do people continue old world hatred here in the states. those who choose to settle in this country should know that they are becoming americans and they should treat everyone else like a fellow american, not by some ethnic category.

angel nympho
10-14-2002, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jul 15 2002, 07:14 AM
[quote:8ccb65dbce="angelnympho"]very true... but hey! im an american!!! so none of this has to do with me. :D[/quote:8ccb65dbce]


maybe you shouldn't be so extreme as to say it has nothing to do with you. you recognize your ethnicity is "asian", which means asian history is a part of your history.
Just because I'm Asian doesn't mean that any of the historical stuff between Koreans and Japanese has anything to do with me.

I'm American. Asian history is the history of my parents. American history is my history.

ChairmanMah
10-14-2002, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 14 2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jul 15 2002, 07:14 AM
[quote:8ccb65dbce="angelnympho"]very true... but hey!  im an american!!!  so none of this has to do with me.  :D[/quote:8ccb65dbce]


maybe you shouldn't be so extreme as to say it has nothing to do with you.  you recognize your ethnicity is "asian", which means asian history is a part of your history.
Just because I'm Asian doesn't mean that any of the historical stuff between Koreans and Japanese has anything to do with me.

I'm American. Asian history is the history of my parents. American history is my history.
i agree w/ you.

ChairmanMah
10-14-2002, 10:50 AM
i find i can relate easier to canadians. too bad some don't want to relate to me since they've stereotyped me already.

SunWuKong
10-14-2002, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 14 2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jul 15 2002, 07:14 AM
[quote:8ccb65dbce="angelnympho"]very true... but hey!  im an american!!!  so none of this has to do with me.  :D[/quote:8ccb65dbce]


maybe you shouldn't be so extreme as to say it has nothing to do with you.  you recognize your ethnicity is "asian", which means asian history is a part of your history.
Just because I'm Asian doesn't mean that any of the historical stuff between Koreans and Japanese has anything to do with me.

I'm American. Asian history is the history of my parents. American history is my history.
but really, according to your logic, no history can really be claimed by anybody.

Mr T
10-14-2002, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 14 2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jul 15 2002, 07:14 AM
[quote:8ccb65dbce="angelnympho"]very true... but hey! im an american!!! so none of this has to do with me. :D[/quote:8ccb65dbce]


maybe you shouldn't be so extreme as to say it has nothing to do with you. you recognize your ethnicity is "asian", which means asian history is a part of your history.
Just because I'm Asian doesn't mean that any of the historical stuff between Koreans and Japanese has anything to do with me.

I'm American. Asian history is the history of my parents. American history is my history.
i agree w/ you.
And I agree with both of you too.

On the subject of animosity between various ethnic groups I would just like to put in my two cents: It's time to move on folks; life is just too short for lingering or continual hatred of people who by chance were born into a different ethnic race.

Einstein made a very poignant quote, which went something like this: you can hate a man but you will never destroy his soul. Leave it to God or some external invisible energy source such as karma to right your wrongs.

Don't forget, but forgive; time is the greatest healer.

angel nympho
10-14-2002, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 06:50 PM
i find i can relate easier to canadians. too bad some don't want to relate to me since they've stereotyped me already.
Give it up. A white person will NEVER relate to you in the ways you want them to. If a white person ever said to me that they could totally relate to what I went through growing up, I'd laugh in their face. A white person will NEVER understand what it feels like to be a minority in a racist society.

ChairmanMah
10-14-2002, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 14 2002, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 06:50 PM
i find i can relate easier to canadians. too bad some don't want to relate to me since they've stereotyped me already.
Give it up. A white person will NEVER relate to you in the ways you want them to. If a white person ever said to me that they could totally relate to what I went through growing up, I'd laugh in their face. A white person will NEVER understand what it feels like to be a minority in a racist society.
they will nver understand. some choose to make it worse. i'm willing to fight those who do. i wonder what you do. the exact opposite

being w/ someone you cant relate to. you really are a nympho.

kimpossible
10-14-2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 12:03 PM
being w/ someone you cant relate to. you really are a nympho.
No need to get digs at her through her personal relationship.

SunWuKong
10-14-2002, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 14 2002, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 06:50 PM
i find i can relate easier to canadians. too bad some don't want to relate to me since they've stereotyped me already.
Give it up. A white person will NEVER relate to you in the ways you want them to. If a white person ever said to me that they could totally relate to what I went through growing up, I'd laugh in their face. A white person will NEVER understand what it feels like to be a minority in a racist society.
they will nver understand. some choose to make it worse. i'm willing to fight those who do. i wonder what you do. the exact opposite

being w/ someone you cant relate to. you really are a nympho.
hold up.

personal attacks are not appreciated around here. please refrain.

Mr T
10-15-2002, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 14 2002, 08:16 PM
personal attacks are not appreciated around here. please refrain.
Totally agree with you there man, there are other more militant sites for that dude.

angel nympho
10-15-2002, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 14 2002, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 14 2002, 06:50 PM
i find i can relate easier to canadians. too bad some don't want to relate to me since they've stereotyped me already.
Give it up. A white person will NEVER relate to you in the ways you want them to. If a white person ever said to me that they could totally relate to what I went through growing up, I'd laugh in their face. A white person will NEVER understand what it feels like to be a minority in a racist society.
they will nver understand. some choose to make it worse. i'm willing to fight those who do. i wonder what you do. the exact opposite

being w/ someone you cant relate to. you really are a nympho.
Okay, so I know he can't relate to me when it comes to race. He's as white as it gets. But he relates to me in ways that are a lot more important to me. He understands that the two of us come from completely different worlds, with me growing up in the planned community from hell, and him growing up all over the place. The fact that we come from different worlds doesn't mean we can't have fun together... NOW.

Jeeze, I really AM a nympho. Wow, I can't believe that I actually am attracted to a guy who HAS THE SAME INTERESTS AS ME!!! DAMN, such a SLUT! I can't believe I'm actually attracted to a guy who DOESN'T treat me like complete shit or a piece of ass!!! Whoa, Sarah, what are you DOING???

angel nympho
10-15-2002, 12:35 PM
^-- LOL, I don't know why people are making such a huge deal over me dating a white guy. It's not like we're SERIOUS about each other. Jeeze. I'm not trying to make some kind of statement.

SunWuKong
10-15-2002, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 03:35 PM
^-- LOL, I don't know why people are making such a huge deal over me dating a white guy. It's not like we're SERIOUS about each other. Jeeze. I'm not trying to make some kind of statement.
i only hope you realize that the OG members around here have no problems with who you choose to date.


:)

angel nympho
10-15-2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 15 2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 03:35 PM
^-- LOL, I don't know why people are making such a huge deal over me dating a white guy.  It's not like we're SERIOUS about each other.  Jeeze.  I'm not trying to make some kind of statement.
i only hope you realize that the OG members around here have no problems with who you choose to date.


:)
I know, but I think even the OG members don't really know the entire low-down. The two of us aren't even really in a serious relationship. Just seems like it because people make so many comments about it. Hehe, and I think most people assume that I've dated a lot more white guys than Asian guys... which definately DEFINATELY isn't true.

deez nuts
10-15-2002, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 15 2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 03:35 PM
^-- LOL, I don't know why people are making such a huge deal over me dating a white guy. It's not like we're SERIOUS about each other. Jeeze. I'm not trying to make some kind of statement.
i only hope you realize that the OG members around here have no problems with who you choose to date.


:)
I know, but I think even the OG members don't really know the entire low-down. The two of us aren't even really in a serious relationship. Just seems like it because people make so many comments about it. Hehe, and I think most people assume that I've dated a lot more white guys than Asian guys... which definately DEFINATELY isn't true.
Yo whatever Angel, it's your business and your flow. It's just between you and the mister or whomever you dating yellow, white, black, green, purple whatever.

angel nympho
10-15-2002, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 15 2002, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 15 2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 03:35 PM
^-- LOL, I don't know why people are making such a huge deal over me dating a white guy. It's not like we're SERIOUS about each other. Jeeze. I'm not trying to make some kind of statement.
i only hope you realize that the OG members around here have no problems with who you choose to date.


:)
I know, but I think even the OG members don't really know the entire low-down. The two of us aren't even really in a serious relationship. Just seems like it because people make so many comments about it. Hehe, and I think most people assume that I've dated a lot more white guys than Asian guys... which definately DEFINATELY isn't true.
Yo whatever Angel, it's your business and your flow. It's just between you and the mister or whomever you dating yellow, white, black, green, purple whatever.
*Giggles* He's polka dot.

Nah, the only thing that I think really stands out about his being WHITE is the fact that his eyes are soooo cute. I wish my eyes were hazel. And that they turned green when I wore green.

kimpossible
10-15-2002, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 01:25 PM
Nah, the only thing that I think really stands out about his being WHITE is the fact that his eyes are soooo cute. I wish my eyes were hazel. And that they turned green when I wore green.
It's called colored contacts. Try some. They're fun. I have green from time to time.

angel nympho
10-15-2002, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Oct 15 2002, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 01:25 PM
Nah, the only thing that I think really stands out about his being WHITE is the fact that his eyes are soooo cute.  I wish my eyes were hazel.  And that they turned green when I wore green.
It's called colored contacts. Try some. They're fun. I have green from time to time.
I have grey ones. My mom says they make me look like a cat. And I have purple ones, too. They're pretty funky.

Mr T
10-16-2002, 02:35 AM
Nympho - Are you intereted in dating another white guy? Just come and give me a call alright?! :lol:

wylin
10-16-2002, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 15 2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 03:35 PM
^-- LOL, I don't know why people are making such a huge deal over me dating a white guy. It's not like we're SERIOUS about each other. Jeeze. I'm not trying to make some kind of statement.
i only hope you realize that the OG members around here have no problems with who you choose to date.


:)
I know, but I think even the OG members don't really know the entire low-down. The two of us aren't even really in a serious relationship. Just seems like it because people make so many comments about it. Hehe, and I think most people assume that I've dated a lot more white guys than Asian guys... which definately DEFINATELY isn't true.
knowing is half the battle. yah i know the lowdown and its not like nething big or nething just Angel being a normal 18yr old kid.

angel nympho
10-16-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by wylin@Oct 16 2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 15 2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 15 2002, 03:35 PM
^-- LOL, I don't know why people are making such a huge deal over me dating a white guy. It's not like we're SERIOUS about each other. Jeeze. I'm not trying to make some kind of statement.
i only hope you realize that the OG members around here have no problems with who you choose to date.


:)
I know, but I think even the OG members don't really know the entire low-down. The two of us aren't even really in a serious relationship. Just seems like it because people make so many comments about it. Hehe, and I think most people assume that I've dated a lot more white guys than Asian guys... which definately DEFINATELY isn't true.
knowing is half the battle. yah i know the lowdown and its not like nething big or nething just Angel being a normal 18yr old kid.
Kid? *sob*

kimpossible
10-16-2002, 04:34 PM
will's got a name for me too. gramma.