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VV o n g B a
01-07-2003, 12:41 PM
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?...p?id=ns99993235 (http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993235)

Effort to crack Xbox code abandoned


15:15 07 January 02
Will Knight


A scheme to crack the code used to authenticate official games for the Xbox games console has been abandoned for "legal concerns". But cryptography experts say the odds of succeeding were astronomical anyway, unless some shortcut could have been found.

A group known as The Neo Project recently proposed combining the distributed power of thousands of desktop machines in an effort to guess the master key. A software program was released to let desktop users contribute spare processing power towards the goal.

Obtaining the key would mean Xbox users could run any game on their console, or indeed any program at all.

But a message posted to the group's web site on Tuesday reads: "Due to legal reasons, we will no longer be hosting or participating in the Xbox challenge". No further information was provided.


Fruitless task


The Xbox key is generated using the RSA encryption algorithm and is 2048 bits long. Brian Gladman, an independent cryptography expert based in the UK, says the length of the key means there is an incredibly slim chance of finding it via brute force computing.

"It's a fruitless task unless there is some inherent weakness in the system, whether this is a failure in implementation or that a part of the key has been leaked," he told New Scientist.

According to RSA company, it would take a million Pentium 500MHz computers 100 billion (1011) years to run through all the possible solutions of a 1640-bit key. A 2048 bit key would be exponentially harder to crack.


Age of the Universe


Andrew Huang, a computer consultant who carried out a detailed analysis of Xbox security while studying at MIT in June 2002, agrees that the odds of succeeding would be extremely small.

"It's highly unlikely a 2048-bit RSA key will be guessed," he said. "I seem to remember factors greater than the age of the Universe, even taking into account Moore's law."

Xbox games must be signed with a "private key" held by Microsoft in order to run on Xbox machines. This key is mathematically linked to a "public key" which is stored inside each console. Together the keys confirm that the game comes from an authorised source. Because the two keys are linked, it is theoretically possible to derive the private key from the public one.

Craig
01-07-2003, 01:19 PM
Maybe the potentially interested crackers would have been diverted to the easier task of getting Linux working on the Xbox (http://wired.com/news/linux/0,1411,57052,00.html).

myself808
07-10-2003, 05:08 PM
looks like it was finally done: Linux runs on Xbox (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/10/technology/circuits/10xbox.html?ei=5062&en=4b3cf19c27e22937&ex=1058414400&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=all&position=) (although it appears illegal)

After a few months on the Xbox Live network, in May, he got a bit bored again. This time, however, he opened his Xbox and soldered in a chip that allowed him to change the console's basic computer code and bypass its internal security technology. After installing a new hard drive, he transferred about 3,000 MP3 music files to the system and downloaded illegal copies of 3,500 old-time arcade games. Then he installed the Linux operating system, which allowed him to use the box essentially as a personal computer.

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Although there are several methods, hacking an Xbox typically involves obtaining a special chip called a modchip, available on the Internet, and soldering it into the machine. (For those who find the process daunting, there are also vendors on the Internet who sell "pre-modded" Xbox units.)

Modchips, of which there are several varieties, allow users to load new versions of the basic computer code, known as the BIOS, that tells the machine how to operate. A hacked BIOS generally incorporates modified versions of copyrighted Microsoft code and so is generally illegal. The main Web sites that deal with Xbox hacking do not include links to hacked BIOS, and hackers generally find their forbidden fruit in Internet chat rooms.

Once the modchip is installed and the BIOS modified, the console can do a number of things it cannot do "out of the box." Xbox games normally must be run from an optical disk, and a hacked Xbox can "back up" a game to the unit's hard drive and run the game without the disk. This technique could be used simply to avoid having to insert and remove disks - or it could be used for piracy (say, by renting a game, putting the software on the hard drive and returning the game).

Until passage of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in 1998, the mere sale of a modified chip would not have appeared illegal. That law, however, prohibits the sale of devices that are primarily meant to circumvent copyright protection.

tvbdude
07-10-2003, 11:58 PM
hmm, I thought there was modchips for the xbox ever since the xbox was released.

AliBabaIncorporated
07-11-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Jan 7 2003, 03:41 PM
Xbox games must be signed with a "private key" held by Microsoft in order to run on Xbox machines. This key is mathematically linked to a "public key" which is stored inside each console. Together the keys confirm that the game comes from an authorised source.
Look this whole long-ass discussion about RSA and factors of 2048-bit numbers is irrelevent. It's Microsoft. I don't care how ridiculously oversecure your key is, there's an implementation bug somewhere.

And yeah, the x-box itself was already cracked to run pirated games and unofficial software anyway. I think this article is referring to the fact that no one is ever gonna get unlicensed software to run on an unmodded x-box.

mr. x
07-11-2003, 06:14 PM
ill crack an xbox, just gimme a hammer

eff mikkkrosoft

hehe, im using windows and explorer too

tvbdude
07-11-2003, 10:30 PM
microsoft is racist? since when?

himura-dono
07-12-2003, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by tvbdude@Jul 11 2003, 09:30 PM
microsoft is racist? since when?
umm...i'm gonna chalk that one up to being a PWD (Posting While Drunk).

golden_buns
07-12-2003, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by tvbdude@Jul 11 2003, 09:30 PM
microsoft is racist? since when?
there's no racism among geeks

mr. x
07-12-2003, 12:48 PM
well not racist per se, but u know how leftists say Amerikkka?

hmm perhaps i shoulda said Mikrosoft instead