Hawaii

[kimpossible]

I have a lot of weird preconceived notions about Hawaii. Even thought of moving there when I was younger so that I could live in a place where everyone was mixed like me. What's it really like?

[SunWuKong]

it's like a hapa women buffet.


no just kidding don't kick my ass. i've never been there. :P

[kimpossible]

well i was thinking there are a lot of hot guys. most of the asian guys i've seen from Hawaii (there's a few in the NW) are pretty built with nice tans. yum.

edit: We'll unleash the pig together in this thread. Sex it up, everyone.

[Hiroshi2]

I think it is. My mom has a friend with hapa children there; never met 'em before, but from what I've read and seen about hawaii, hawaii is a paradise for everyone of just about any racial mixture. I'd love to go there and see what it's like there.

[YuheiCarreau]

I've only visited Hawaii, and although I wouldn't call it a paradise for Hapas, I do know that there are enough Hapas around that being one is not such an oddity. Plus there are many different cultures - native, White, other PIs, Asians and AAs living in a small area.

[maldito]

The whole "Hapas" is not what you think. Not everyone is Asian and White combo. You have every mixture you could think of. A lot (not alot *L*) of common mixtures too. Many Hawaiians have Chinese in them and have Hawaiianized Chinese names. Any Hawaiian sounding name beginning with the letter "A" suggests that person is part Chinese and Hawaiian. Akana, Amina, Akuhuna, Aloe, Aiu, Akona, Akina, Aki, Amona, and many more. Many Hawaiians have Portuguese blood. Many of these people mixed together, so a common combination among many people in the islands are Polynesian, Asian and European.

And unlike mixed people on the mainland, many people in Hawaii know of their European ancestor and say who or what they were versus just saying "White". If they do, it's probably b/c they had an American ancestor, but that doesn't happen too often. Keanu Reeves family, the REEVES family are just that. Charles Reeves was from TN and married a half Hawaiian half Portuguese woman. Charles Reeves was of English descent I believe.

Even in the royal household there were mixed people.

Princess Kaiulani
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Her father was Scottish and her mother was a Hawaiian Princess.

Queen Emma Rooke
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Her maternal grandfather was English.

Theresa Owana Kaohelelani Mahealani-Rose Salazar

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Her 5th great-grandfather was Kalokuokamaile, eldest brother to King Kamehameha. Owana Salazar is about 42.1875% Hawn. She had a French ancestor (Rives) and other Caucasian ancestors (Wilcox, Wilburton), not to mention that surname Salazar, although I am not sure what ethnic mix her father was.

Abigail Kinoike Kekaulike Kawananakoa

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Granddaughter of Prince David L. K. Kawananakoa, (nephew to Queen Kapi'olani) and Abigail W. Campbell (daughter of an Irishman and a Hawaiian chiefess). Abigail Kawananakoa's mix is as I mentioned for her grandparents. Abigail's father was Dr. W. J. Ellerbrock.

Quentin Kuhio Kawananakoa (center)
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Great-grandson of Prince David L. K. Kawananakoa & Abigail Campbell. Quentin's mother was Carolyn Branch. I'm not sure if she was pure haole (Caucasian) or mixed with something else. Quentin's father however was Prince Edward K. Kawananakoa whose father was Andrew Lambert, a haole.

[maldito]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Dec 23 2002, 07:40 PM
I do know that there are enough Hapas around that being one is not such an oddity.

You can say that again. It's odd to be talking about mixed people. We know we are and are proud of what we are, but to point it out and stuff, like talk about being around each other...it's very odd and I NEVER talk about these things what we discuss in these Hapa forums on the net with any of my friends or relatives. They might think I'm nuts. :rolleyes:

[thaite]

Hapa Paradise, Woohooo!

Green people everywhere, Woohoo!

[maldito]

Originally posted by buoywonder@Dec 27 2002, 07:50 PM
Green people everywhere, Woohoo!
More like white & yellow. :lol:

[loserbutt]

from imdb.com keanu's dad is chinese

[maldito]

Originally posted by loserbutt@Jan 3 2003, 12:36 PM
from imdb.com keanu's dad is chinese
Yes, his dad is part Chinese. His family, the REEVES family is a typically mixed Hawaiian family. The matriarch, Rose Miguel was Hawaiian & Portuguese.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/...8/ln/ln07a.html (http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2002/Aug/18/ln/ln07a.html)

http://members.aol.com/punahele/stevette/reunion.html

[BeTheReds]

I am kinda afraid of Hawaii. Yea perhaps there are a lot of hapas there but that is precisely what I am afraid of. It will be just another group that everyone tells me that I am a part of, further distancing me from Korean people, who I think I am a part of...

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Ya last time I went to Hawaii (about 6 years ago), all I saw was hot Hapa people. Nuthin like a typical day as a 17-year old horndog tourist, just packed up my things and grabbed a fold-up chair and headed down to the beach in my giant fruity red hawaiian shorts to um...read.

[maldito]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jan 6 2003, 03:13 PM
It will be just another group that everyone tells me that I am a part of, further distancing me from Korean people, who I think I am a part of...
Who is they? To people in Hawaii, it's no big deal. We know that we are all mixed, and we don't call ourselves "Hapa", b/c it's no big deal. So I wouldn't worry.

I NEVER talk about all these hapa issues to relative and friends back home. They'll think I'm nuts. Why? B/c it's no big deal. So believe me, they wouldn't think anything different of you.

[BeTheReds]

Who is who?

Anyway, what I meant to say is that every other Hapa I have ever met falls into two categories.
1. The I am so much more Asian than you are and I am gonna prove it to everyone type..

2. The You and I share a bond so automatically we must create a frendship even tho we have nothing in common other than the fact that our parents are of different races and one of those happens to be asian type. (The type I percieve hawaii is full of..)

People who are proud of all their ancestries and flaunt them saying "I am 1/2 Korean 1/4th Italian 1/8th German 1/16th Irish and 1/16th Dutch" simply have no passion in their lives and they want to think that they are unique.

[Craig]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jan 8 2003, 12:47 AM
Who is who?

Anyway, what I meant to say is that every other Hapa I have ever met falls into two categories.
1. The I am so much more Asian than you are and I am gonna prove it to everyone type..

2. The You and I share a bond so automatically we must create a frendship even tho we have nothing in common other than the fact that our parents are of different races and one of those happens to be asian type. (The type I percieve hawaii is full of..)

People who are proud of all their ancestries and flaunt them saying "I am 1/2 Korean 1/4th Italian 1/8th German 1/16th Irish and 1/16th Dutch" simply have no passion in their lives and they want to think that they are unique.
Get out more, I know several Eurasians that don't fall into either of those stereotypes.

[BeTheReds]

Good for you.. I don't.

And I certainly am not gonna go around looking for them.

[maldito]

People who are proud of all their ancestries and flaunt them saying "I am 1/2 Korean 1/4th Italian 1/8th German 1/16th Irish and 1/16th Dutch" simply have no passion in their lives and they want to think that they are unique.

I guess I have yet to meet these people in real life. I can only tell you about my experience growing up in HI where everyone is proud of their ethnicity but no one thinks that b/c of it they are unique. Most importantly they don't try to make others feel uncomfortable by saying that they're more _____ or more _____ than you or anyone else.

[LCY]

Growing up in Hawaii, there were Hapas everywhere. Not necessarily just Asian/White, but all different kinds like Chinese/Hawaiian/Portuguese/Japanese. It was no big deal, just a fact of life. In fact, I felt like the oddball since I was "only" Korean. And I have never met anyone who tried to say they're more Asian or more whatever race than you in Hawaii. It was weird to see how different it was in the continental U.S.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

personally, i don't relate too well to hapas from hawaii.

also we just watched that annoying-ass documentary "doubles" which, among other things, tries to crack up hawaii as some kinda paradise on the sole basis that there are lots people there who look like mixed asians, so that it is easy to blend in visually.

[LCY]

Hawaii is certainly no paradise, it has its share of problems. But the rates of interracial dating/marriage and percentage of mixed race people are quite high compared to the rest of the U.S., I think.

[maldito]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Mar 12 2003, 04:16 AM
personally, i don't relate too well to hapas from hawaii.

I don't see why people would think that they would relate to a particular person just b/c of their ethnicity anyway. I meet Hawaiians here on the mainland but I don't assume that I'll relate with them more just b/c we have common ties. Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't.

I meet lots of Filipinos from Hawaii or the Philippines or here and some of them I can relate to, some of them I can't. Just b/c I'm Filipino like them doesn't mean we'll have lots of things in common.

also we just watched that annoying-ass documentary "doubles" which, among other things, tries to crack up hawaii as some kinda paradise on the sole basis that there are lots people there who look like mixed asians, so that it is easy to blend in visually.

I'm going to guess that the creators of the documentary weren't of Hawaii. From what I found (via the net only) it tends to focus on mixed Japanese people.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by maldito@Mar 14 2003, 10:16 PM
I don't see why people would think that they would relate to a particular person just b/c of their ethnicity anyway.



cuz I relate well to hapas I have met in overseas countries. as well as bilingual hapas in the US.

I'm going to guess that the creators of the documentary weren't of Hawaii.  From what I found (via the net only) it tends to focus on mixed Japanese people.

some portion of both creative and technical staff working on the documentary were from Hawaii, actually. it was a documentary created specifically to document experience of mixed race Japanese, released in both the US and Japan, so of course it would focus on mixed Japanese people. It wasn't intended as the general purpose documentary.

[kimpossible]

How do you get a hold of Doubles? I've heard about it for years but never had the chance to see it.