Vegetarians are dumb.

[angel nympho]

http://maddox.xmission.com/grill.html
Given this article takes things pretty far.... I still think vegetarians are dumb. How in the HELL does your decision to buy a tofu burger instead of the real deal save that cow's life? If I don't eat the steak, that cow died in vain. I will do my service to animals and eat them.

[ChairmanMah]

i think alot of the veg's are against the slaughter of animals period which leads them to become veg's.

[pfc beansprout]

~heh..that dude's website/views are very interesting to say the least...i'm not a vegetarian..but i won't eat veal...NO VEAL plz.... :(

[ChairmanMah]

they don't become veg's because they are against other ppl eating them.

i think they know they can't control that.

They are making personal decisions not to eat them because they are grossed out by it.

For others, it is very ethical and they are the greenpeace ppl who protest against tree cutting and oil export.

[angel nympho]

It's just amusing to see people not eat meat because of an "ethnical" decision, but sport sweatshop clothes and think they're high and mighty because of it. I got no problems with vegetarians at all, I just don't see it such a healthy expression of morality.

[Craig]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 21 2002, 03:42 PM
I got no problems with vegetarians at all
Your statement in the opening post of the thread seems to suggest otherwise. Just posting the article would not have given a positive or negative connection about your personal feelings (it might mean any of several things like I found this interesting, I wonder what people thing, I could be bored, or whatever). However, the associated comments are another story.
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 21 2002, 03:28 PM
I still think vegetarians are dumb. How in the HELL does your decision

[ChairmanMah]

those sweatshops, i heard that they are good for the economy because the economy must grow at steady pace and not too sharply. This is because there will not be enough jobs because the cost of labor goes up. Thus they are creating more jobs to train more ppl. As a result, this may be preventing a class disparity among the people. Is this true? I wonder if they all smartened up and got some A/C and some benefits

[ism]

I've seen that website before, and I wouldn't take anything on it too seriously. They may be his real views but they are written in an obvious trolling manner.

As for vegetarians not making a difference in "saving" animals, I have to disagree. While a cow already slaughtered may rot away, the lack of demand will affect the supply, and while we may not see more cows alive, there will be fewer cows bred for consumption. You do no service to animals by eating them nor by refusing to do so. The only ones who get hurt are the animal breeders.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by Craig@Dec 21 2002, 08:49 PM
Your statement in the opening post of the thread seems to suggest otherwise. Just posting the article would not have given a positive or negative connection about your personal feelings (it might mean any of several things like I found this interesting, I wonder what people thing, I could be bored, or whatever). However, the associated comments are another story.

I got no problem with vegetarians at all meaning I won't beat one up on the street. I really couldn't give a shit if you're vegetarian. Your choice, not mine. I just wouldn't be one because I think it's a dumb decision. Oooh.

[Hiroshi2]

Originally posted by ism@Dec 21 2002, 01:30 PM
I've seen that website before, and I wouldn't take anything on it too seriously.  They may be his real views but they are written in an obvious trolling manner.


Same here. His posts are funny, but he's no newspaper columnist.

Check out some of his other "commentary" that may be somewhat relavent to asians......

http://maddox.xmission.com/anime_nerd.html

[Monte]

Vegetarian for some people cause they don't want high blood pressure, or any of the other health problems associated with eating red meat.

[pfc beansprout]

*shrug* more meat for me....:D

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by Hiroshi2@Dec 21 2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by ism@Dec 21 2002, 01:30 PM
I've seen that website before, and I wouldn't take anything on it too seriously. They may be his real views but they are written in an obvious trolling manner.


Same here. His posts are funny, but he's no newspaper columnist.

Check out some of his other "commentary" that may be somewhat relavent to asians......

http://maddox.xmission.com/anime_nerd.html
Ohh, the one about the Civics is the best. :)

[Hiroshi2]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 21 2002, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Hiroshi2@Dec 21 2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by ism@Dec 21 2002, 01:30 PM
I've seen that website before, and I wouldn't take anything on it too seriously. They may be his real views but they are written in an obvious trolling manner.


Same here. His posts are funny, but he's no newspaper columnist.

Check out some of his other "commentary" that may be somewhat relavent to asians......

http://maddox.xmission.com/anime_nerd.html
Ohh, the one about the Civics is the best. :)
Ah, it wasn't that funny to me. Cause I'm the type that would want to soup up my car (but not a civic, preferabbly an eclipse, just to prove that a "rice-rocket" can outrace, outperform, out-do a big, hairy-chested american muscle car). But I wasn't offended, it was just lame. I loved the one about the kids' drawings though.

[angel nympho]

^-- Werd. Those were really funny.

[Monte]

Vegetarians are dumb only if they believe that a diet based strictly on plants is all that their body needs.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by Monte@Dec 22 2002, 05:11 AM
Vegetarians are dumb only if they believe that a diet based strictly on plants is all that their body needs.
I wholly agree. Unless your body is physically unable to HANDLE eating meat, I think it's a healthy decision to do so.

[Hanuman]

I know a few people who as a kid got exposed to one of those mind-washing slaughter house videos of animals being raised and killed for processing. They've since become vegetarian. Seems kinda crazy to me, but to each their own. I personally love beef, pork, veal, lamb, I guess I pretty much love meat and even all it's by products. Pate, Yummmm!

[angel nympho]

Werd, I'd eat a hot dog over a veggie-dog ANY day.

[Hanuman]

You know what though. I've had some pretty tasty veggie burgers! Them things are good!!!

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Tawee@Dec 22 2002, 04:22 AM
You know what though. I've had some pretty tasty veggie burgers! Them things are good!!!
yeah i love black bean burgers. and i love chinese vegetarian food.

[angel nympho]

^-- BlEhhh!!! I had ToFurkey once. .... eEAhg. And one time I accidently ate a sprout. I wanted to die. I had to lick a cow to make sure I was still alive.

[deez nuts]

It is the duty of every woman to eat meat in one way or another. If she no likey the Big N Tasty from McD's, it's all good so long as she eats "da meat" ya know what I'm sayin'?

[iris]

I was a Vegetarian for two years and not because of animal rights. I just didn't enjoy the taste of most meats. [No sassy comment about meat, CSB!] I was fine and healthy the entire time and my skin was never better. However, I upped my dance and work out schedule later and had to begin introducing meat into my diet again because I needed more iron to combat with the increase in my exercise regiment.

I appreciate a good steak (almost always well-done). But I can see why some people would want to go vegetarian, it really does make you feel lighter, healthier, and cleaner in a way.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by tazadar@Dec 22 2002, 11:13 AM
Hey Doc, you nasty. May I ask what field of medicine you're in?
Kekekekee

General Surgical resident.


I'm curious as to why someone's dietary eating habits would faze anyone.

I wouldn't say vegetarians are dumb per say, but more selective in their diet!

[SunWuKong]

heheh i know a vegan that wears leather shoes. :P

[iris]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 23 2002, 12:15 AM
I'm curious as to why someone's dietary eating habits would faze anyone.

I wouldn't say vegetarians are dumb per say, but more selective in their diet!
Oh agreed Doc! :)

[ism]

Vegetarians are just picky.

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 22 2002, 09:26 AM
yeah i love black bean burgers. and i love chinese vegetarian food.
i like those chinese veg's too. especially those different types of mushrooms, lotus root etc.

[wylin]

and moose burgers and beaver tail too?

[Hito]

I have been a vegeterian for about 10 years now.
It started as a helth decision and evi,ved into a somewhat ethical position later.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 22 2002, 12:51 PM
i like those chinese veg's too. especially those different types of mushrooms, lotus root etc.
yeah they're really greasy though. but i love them. i miss chinese vegetarian restaurants! :(

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 22 2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 23 2002, 12:15 AM
I'm curious as to why someone's dietary eating habits would faze anyone.

I wouldn't say vegetarians are dumb per say, but more selective in their diet!
Oh agreed Doc! :)
With that being said let's go play doctor! You can examine me. :D

[angel nympho]

People should be allowed to be vegetarians... but only if they really want to. Not to make some stupid point. 'Cuz nobody cares about the point they're trying to make.

[mrazntre]

interesting.

<_<

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by wylin@Dec 22 2002, 06:02 PM
and moose burgers and beaver tail too?
beaver tail? never tried it. had moose burger tho

[ChairmanMah]

and yeah, shut up twerp or i'll wring your neck.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 22 2002, 02:40 PM
People should be allowed to be vegetarians... but only if they really want to. &nbsp;Not to make some stupid point. &nbsp;'Cuz nobody cares about the point they're trying to make.
i'm sure most vegetarians aren't vegetarians just for the sole reason that they want to make a point. less consumption of meat does mean that there would be less animals killed for food. basic supply and demand. or maybe they think that it's healthier for them. supplements can provide you with all you need from meats - and without the possibly unhealthy things that could be in some meats.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 22 2002, 08:24 PM
i'm sure most vegetarians aren't vegetarians just for the sole reason that they want to make a point. less consumption of meat does mean that there would be less animals killed for food. basic supply and demand. or maybe they think that it's healthier for them. supplements can provide you with all you need from meats - and without the possibly unhealthy things that could be in some meats.
Like I said, I don't care if people are vegetarians as long as they have REAL reasons for doing it. I can't stand the vegetarians who do it just to be "morally trendy."

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 22 2002, 10:52 AM
It is the duty of every woman to eat meat in one way or another. If she no likey the Big N Tasty from McD's, it's all good so long as she eats "da meat" ya know what I'm sayin'?
Make sure to lick up all the special sauce too. :P

[Monte]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 22 2002, 08:01 AM
I was a Vegetarian for two years and not because of animal rights. I just didn't enjoy the taste of most meats. [No sassy comment about meat, CSB!] I was fine and healthy the entire time and my skin was never better. However, I upped my dance and work out schedule later and had to begin introducing meat into my diet again because I needed more iron to combat with the increase in my exercise regiment.

I appreciate a good steak (almost always well-done). But I can see why some people would want to go vegetarian, it really does make you feel lighter, healthier, and cleaner in a way.
I used to have my steaks cooked well done, I don't anymore. Having it rare or medium rare is juicier.

As for being vegetarian, I've tried being one once. Gave me peace of mind. But I couldn't resist those short ribs covered with all that BBQ sauce cooking over mesquite briquettes. Damn! Just smell that! Yummay!
I think I should give vegetarianism another try. :cry:

[wylin]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 22 2002, 12:16 PM
and yeah, shut up twerp or i'll wring your neck.
and eat me like candians do? or fart on me? also im probs taller then you, and probs can defeat u in personal combat...since i used to be a punk then i was young.

Sorry candian methane explosion-based martial arts and people of assinine intellegence do not frighten me. Plus, what are you gonna do throw snow at me?

next ur gonna say u dont look like terrence and phillip.

[iris]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 23 2002, 04:36 AM
Like I said, I don't care if people are vegetarians as long as they have REAL reasons for doing it. I can't stand the vegetarians who do it just to be "morally trendy."
If people go so far as to alter their diets permanently, I doubt they think they are being trendy. They probably really believe in their cause and more power to them for staying strong. Those who are being "morally trendy" won't last as a vegetarian. It's very tough to exclude meat and fish from the diet. I absolutely love seafood.

The majority of vegetarians actually choose to be one for health reasons and not for ethical ones. I just didn't enjoy the taste of burgers or like how they're made - not baby cows stuff, more like people grinding and touching and pressing the meat with dirty hands (i.e. Mickey D's). It's been 10 years since I've had a hamburger and I can't remember what they taste like anymore. :o

[537]

omg who would become vegetarian just to be morally trendy?

I mean c'mon..we're talking about MEAT! Who would give that up over something so trivial? MEAT!

*twitch*

[Chris]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 22 2002, 11:40 AM
People should be allowed to be vegetarians... but only if they really want to. Not to make some stupid point. 'Cuz nobody cares about the point they're trying to make.
Very True on that Point AN. For me I am giving up beef and pork because I am doing it for a more healthy reasons.

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by wylin@Dec 23 2002, 07:40 AM
and eat me like candians do? or fart on me? also im probs taller then you, and probs can defeat u in personal combat...since i used to be a punk then i was young.

Sorry candian methane explosion-based martial arts and people of assinine intellegence do not frighten me. Plus, what are you gonna do throw snow at me?

next ur gonna say u dont look like terrence and phillip.
farting?!?!? now who's anal?

who cares if you're PROBABLY taller than me. that don't mean shit.

Like i said to you before, we'll probly never see each other so don't get so excited. Like i'm really gonna waste my time and money to find you.

P.S. Your jokes are getting pretty old and the new ones are pretty weak.

[ChairmanMah]

weak, like you.

[LA superzero1]

I swear people are so threatened by vegetarians. When you say you're not eating meat for some reason they are like, "why why would you do such a thing???" like you just pimp slapped their mom. I try not to eat anything I wouldn't kill, basically, which is one of those personal ethical things. (Although i'm doing a bad job of it... ;) still trying to decide if it was wrong to devour that rack of lamb... mmmm)

but I swear, some of my friends try to convince me of the merits of meat, and sure, it tastes good and has good stuff like vitamins and fat, but I don't need to eat it cause I actually like to eat vegetables. I don't push my non meat eating habit at home, cause um... they don't really comply either. but when i'm away at school... why do people care?

but yeah, I can see how some vegetarians' holy-er than thou attitude can piss people off.

I say let peoples' bizsnass be their bizznass

[wylin]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 23 2002, 06:08 PM
weak, like you.
Those who shath be weakmind, try to flex thy physical prowlness and fight like mindless children from the north. Never hath a this poor child chairman, thought long and hard that he beath, emotionally damaged and he shath be pronounced sumilarily retarded. Nay, i say moose steed chairman, that i mayth care bout yee, beaver face and yee wolverine arse....nay.

basically im saying that tardo's dont really bother me, by evaluating your sentence structure, i can probably deduct that your writing skills and thought process are that of a 3rd or 4th grader, a child about 8-10 years old, who like a dog, likes to flex its seemingly large strength in a treatening manner...but like a bad dog, once beaten or hit in the face scampers away like a crying little girl.

So get off deez nutz!

[SunWuKong]

ChairmanMah and wylin
please take it somewhere else

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by wylin@Dec 24 2002, 03:13 AM
Those who shath be weakmind, try to flex thy physical prowlness and fight like mindless children from the north. &nbsp;Never hath a this poor child chairman, thought long and hard that he beath, emotionally damaged and he shath be pronounced sumilarily retarded. &nbsp;Nay, i say moose steed chairman, that i mayth care bout yee, beaver face and yee wolverine arse....nay.

basically im saying that tardo's dont really bother me, by evaluating your sentence structure, i can probably deduct that your writing skills and thought process are that of a 3rd or 4th grader, a child about 8-10 years old, who like a dog, likes to flex its seemingly large strength in a treatening manner...but like a bad dog, once beaten or hit in the face scampers away like a crying little girl. &nbsp;

So get off deez nutz!
now that's funny. :lol:

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by 537@Dec 23 2002, 03:16 PM
omg who would become vegetarian just to be morally trendy?
Live where I live, work where I work, and interact with the people I interact with THEN say that.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by LA superzero1@Dec 24 2002, 02:57 AM
I swear people are so threatened by vegetarians. When you say you're not eating meat for some reason they are like, "why why would you do such a thing???" like you just pimp slapped their mom. I try not to eat anything I wouldn't kill, basically, which is one of those personal ethical things. (Although i'm doing a bad job of it... ;) still trying to decide if it was wrong to devour that rack of lamb... mmmm)

but I swear, some of my friends try to convince me of the merits of meat, and sure, it tastes good and has good stuff like vitamins and fat, but I don't need to eat it cause I actually like to eat vegetables. I don't push my non meat eating habit at home, cause um... they don't really comply either. but when i'm away at school... why do people care?

but yeah, I can see how some vegetarians' holy-er than thou attitude can piss people off.

I say let peoples' bizsnass be their bizznass
It's the concept more than it's the actual action that bothers me. The fact that people don't eat meat doesn't bother me, their motivations do.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 23 2002, 03:10 PM
If people go so far as to alter their diets permanently, I doubt they think they are being trendy. They probably really believe in their cause and more power to them for staying strong. Those who are being "morally trendy" won't last as a vegetarian. It's very tough to exclude meat and fish from the diet. I absolutely love seafood.

The majority of vegetarians actually choose to be one for health reasons and not for ethical ones. I just didn't enjoy the taste of burgers or like how they're made - not baby cows stuff, more like people grinding and touching and pressing the meat with dirty hands (i.e. Mickey D's). It's been 10 years since I've had a hamburger and I can't remember what they taste like anymore. :o
I disagree with you there. The majority of West LA vegetarians do it 'cuz they think it's *cool* and 'cuz all the HOLLYWOOD stars are doing it.

[LA superzero1]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 23 2002, 08:08 PM

I disagree with you there. The majority of West LA vegetarians do it 'cuz they think it's *cool* and 'cuz all the HOLLYWOOD stars are doing it.
if ppl do it don't eat meat cuz of this... then yeah, that is wack.
people are such sheep (mmmm rack of lamb...)

well, unless it reeeeeaaaaaaallly is that ... COOL

[iris]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 24 2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by iris@Dec 23 2002, 03:10 PM
If people go so far as to alter their diets permanently, I doubt they think they are being trendy. They probably really believe in their cause and more power to them for staying strong. Those who are being "morally trendy" won't last as a vegetarian. It's very tough to exclude meat and fish from the diet. I absolutely love seafood.

The majority of vegetarians actually choose to be one for health reasons and not for ethical ones. I just didn't enjoy the taste of burgers or like how they're made - not baby cows stuff, more like people grinding and touching and pressing the meat with dirty hands (i.e. Mickey D's). It's been 10 years since I've had a hamburger and I can't remember what they taste like anymore. &nbsp; :o
I disagree with you there. The majority of West LA vegetarians do it 'cuz they think it's *cool* and 'cuz all the HOLLYWOOD stars are doing it.
I don't think West LA constitutes as the majority of vegetarians. Even so, for those people who try to imitate the diet of stars (and which stars are vegetarian anymore? I can't think of any of the major ones.) they really won't stick to it and therefore aren't vegetarian. I tried for two years and it's damn hard.

As long as vegetarians don't force their beliefs onto me or lecture me on the deaths on animals, I really don't care what they eat.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 23 2002, 11:06 PM
Live where I live, work where I work, and interact with the people I interact with THEN say that.
hehheh forgot that you live in LA... *cough* shallow *cough*

oooops :lol:


anyway yeah yeah like iris said, vegetarians in LA doesn't exactly represent the majority of vegetarians. come out to the east coast sometime and meet some birkenstock-wearing tree huggers. :P

[applehead]

i'd rather someone become vegetarian for even a short period of time because they think it's "cool" than eat meat.

on average, a vegetarian save 83 lives per year.
it counts for something.

well.. the famous vegans that i know of are..moby and woody harrelson. and of course fiona. yay!

[wylin]

u go girl strike them carnivors down!

how bout the mans diet, my friend did this once all red meats and heavy cheeses... no girly meats (poultry or fish), no vegies, and no nuts. basically if it didnt come from sumthing w/. 4 legs and fur i aint eating it.

[Arb Nam]

Speaking of which...I tried going all vegie...but it was too hard. Meat is too tasty. Not to dump this on ya'll but this is giving me very valid reasons to be a vegie eater.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/famine/story/0,1...,865087,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/famine/story/0,12128,865087,00.html)

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by applehead@Dec 24 2002, 04:52 AM
i'd rather someone become vegetarian for even a short period of time because they think it's "cool" than eat meat.

on average, a vegetarian save 83 lives per year.
it counts for something.

well.. the famous vegans that i know of are..moby and woody harrelson. and of course fiona. yay!
How do vegetarians save lives? 83 human lives?

[iris]

Apple means animal lives, but if you read the article by Arb Nam, it indirectly affects human lives also. I didn't know that Arb Nam. Thanks for the article.

[angel nympho]

Mm.. it's probably just my opinion, but I just don't think vegetarians save a whole lot of animal lives. I actually don't think ANY people actually... *SAVE* a whole lot of animal lives...

[deez nuts]

Wow vegetarians never fazed me or forced their beliefs onto me. The ones I know and encountered was pretty chill and tolerant. They adapted if it was a big group going out to dinner. They sat across from me while I munched down a porterhouse steak.

The ones I know are pretty cool.

[iris]

heh me too. i lived with a vegetarian and she was really chill about it.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 24 2002, 04:16 AM
Mm.. it's probably just my opinion, but I just don't think vegetarians save a whole lot of animal lives. I actually don't think ANY people actually... *SAVE* a whole lot of animal lives...
well, it would take a while for someone to eat the equivalent of a whole cow, but how many chickens do you think a person eat in a year?

basic supply and demand.

not that i'm trying to get you to give up meat. but i agree with applehead that it saves many animal lives.

[537]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 23 2002, 08:06 PM
Live where I live, work where I work, and interact with the people I interact with THEN say that.
I live in LA too.

Wherever you work there will always be the same type of people. Interact with the same people you interact with?

Well if I did that, then they wouldn't qualify as the 'masses' of people that you say become vegetarian because it is morally trendy. My own sister is vegetarian, but she has been for over a decade now. She doesn't do it to become morally trendy.

I was only asking if people actually do that. I was not aware of how someone would give up meat just for the sake of going along with a trend. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just surprised that people would actually be so shallow to stop eating a particular food over such a trivial notion. You must interact with some pretty transparent people....

[applehead]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 24 2002, 12:42 AM
How do vegetarians save lives? &nbsp;83 human lives?
yeah i meant animal lives.

i think the answer to your question is pretty obvious.
and if you don't get it... well, you don't get it!

[537]

But getting back to the topic at hand....


When you say vegetarians are dumb, do you really mean that vegetarians-who-only-become-such-because-it's-morally-trendy are dumb? Or do you mean vegetarians as a group?

If you meant the former, I agree with you. If the latter, I've a major problem with that. We all congregate here because Elbert and company have brought up a cool site that focuses on Asian Activism and Unity. A stereotypical comment such as 'Vegetarians are dumb' sounds contradictory to what we try to stand for here, does it not?

[applehead]

Originally posted by wylin@Dec 23 2002, 09:25 PM
u go girl strike them carnivors down!

how bout the mans diet, my friend did this once all red meats and heavy cheeses... no girly meats (poultry or fish), no vegies, and no nuts. basically if it didnt come from sumthing w/. 4 legs and fur i aint eating it.
will, that would give you really bad B.O.

[Adaon]

Originally posted by applehead@Dec 24 2002, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by wylin@Dec 23 2002, 09:25 PM
u go girl strike them carnivors down!

how bout the mans diet, my friend did this once all red meats and heavy cheeses... &nbsp;no girly meats (poultry or fish), no vegies, and no nuts. basically if it didnt come from sumthing w/. 4 legs and fur i aint eating it.
will, that would give you really bad B.O.
not only that, but heightened chances of colon cancer from the constipation......*waits for one of the resident docs to correct him*

[angel nympho]

Oh okay. I get it. I was just thinking, though. That when there's a hamburger sitting in front of me... Not eating it isn't gonna save THAT COW's life. Obviously I was thinking "smaller picture."

[angel nympho]

And by the way, I didn't mean for this to become like a *SERIOUS* thread. So don't worry, I don't really hate on vegetarians. I was just having a conversation with somebody and it was really really entertaining.

[VV o n g B a]

there's been studies that say being completely vegetarian doesn't save animals lives. this is b/c these veggies need to be sowed and reaped. well, when reaping the plants, the machine reapers kill the field mice and moles and other small animals that live in the fields. there is some point where eating veggies and animals will hit a minimum in terms of animals killed in order to feed you. i don't know where the convergence point is tho.

[applehead]

yeah i've read that too...

[Chinkaholic]

I think there are pros and cons for both veggie eaters and meat eaters, but me personally, I've tried going veggie too Arb Nam, but i just couldn't give up on SEAFOOD. seafood rocks my world... :P

[deez nuts]

Wow 6 pages over someone's choice of diet!

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Dec 25 2002, 04:02 AM
there's been studies that say being completely vegetarian doesn't save animals lives. this is b/c these veggies need to be sowed and reaped. well, when reaping the plants, the machine reapers kill the field mice and moles and other small animals that live in the fields. there is some point where eating veggies and animals will hit a minimum in terms of animals killed in order to feed you. i don't know where the convergence point is tho.
Yeah, that's the article I started this thread with.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by 537@Dec 24 2002, 04:33 PM
But getting back to the topic at hand....


When you say vegetarians are dumb, do you really mean that vegetarians-who-only-become-such-because-it's-morally-trendy are dumb? Or do you mean vegetarians as a group?

If you meant the former, I agree with you. If the latter, I've a major problem with that. We all congregate here because Elbert and company have brought up a cool site that focuses on Asian Activism and Unity. A stereotypical comment such as 'Vegetarians are dumb' sounds contradictory to what we try to stand for here, does it not?
Wow, some of you guys took this thread a LOT more seriously than I intended. It's irony, sarcasm, and my twisted sense of humor in which I think everybody who doesn't agree with me should die.

If you had READ the article I posted when I started the thread, maybe you would have gotten the point that I was just sort of commenting to go along with what the guy wrote in the article....

:blink:

[VV o n g B a]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 26 2002, 12:42 AM
Yeah, that's the article I started this thread with.
err, whoops. i just read the last couple of posts. silly me. :D :D

[537]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 25 2002, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by 537@Dec 24 2002, 04:33 PM
But getting back to the topic at hand....


When you say vegetarians are dumb, do you really mean that vegetarians-who-only-become-such-because-it's-morally-trendy are dumb? &nbsp;Or do you mean vegetarians as a group?

If you meant the former, I agree with you. &nbsp;If the latter, I've a major problem with that. &nbsp;We all congregate here because Elbert and company have brought up a cool site that focuses on Asian Activism and Unity. &nbsp;A stereotypical comment such as 'Vegetarians are dumb' sounds contradictory to what we try to stand for here, does it not?
Wow, some of you guys took this thread a LOT more seriously than I intended. It's irony, sarcasm, and my twisted sense of humor in which I think everybody who doesn't agree with me should die.

If you had READ the article I posted when I started the thread, maybe you would have gotten the point that I was just sort of commenting to go along with what the guy wrote in the article....

:blink:
Who says I didn't read it?

The way you regarded vegetarians throughout this whole thread implies his opinion is your own. Which is not bad in any case, but I'm merely debating with you over the subject. By the way, I hope you understand the article's author is out for the shock value. His other articles are very highly entertaining. I couldn't stop laughing over the "If you love your kids, beat them" article. But that's just it......that whole site is devoted to comedy.

Please don't assume I take any of this seriously. You said it yourself, "It's irony, sarcasm, and my twisted sense of humor in which I think everybody who doesn't agree with me should die."

Which is the way it should be...

:lol:

[artsfartsyjanet]

I eat pretty much anything, but if I have the choice anywhere I eat, I would eat fish or chicken. I don't think vegetarians are dumb. If that's their choice, then I respect their choices.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by 537@Dec 26 2002, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 25 2002, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by 537@Dec 24 2002, 04:33 PM
But getting back to the topic at hand....


When you say vegetarians are dumb, do you really mean that vegetarians-who-only-become-such-because-it's-morally-trendy are dumb? Or do you mean vegetarians as a group?

If you meant the former, I agree with you. If the latter, I've a major problem with that. We all congregate here because Elbert and company have brought up a cool site that focuses on Asian Activism and Unity. A stereotypical comment such as 'Vegetarians are dumb' sounds contradictory to what we try to stand for here, does it not?
Wow, some of you guys took this thread a LOT more seriously than I intended. It's irony, sarcasm, and my twisted sense of humor in which I think everybody who doesn't agree with me should die.

If you had READ the article I posted when I started the thread, maybe you would have gotten the point that I was just sort of commenting to go along with what the guy wrote in the article....

:blink:
Who says I didn't read it?

The way you regarded vegetarians throughout this whole thread implies his opinion is your own. Which is not bad in any case, but I'm merely debating with you over the subject. By the way, I hope you understand the article's author is out for the shock value. His other articles are very highly entertaining. I couldn't stop laughing over the "If you love your kids, beat them" article. But that's just it......that whole site is devoted to comedy.

Please don't assume I take any of this seriously. You said it yourself, "It's irony, sarcasm, and my twisted sense of humor in which I think everybody who doesn't agree with me should die."

Which is the way it should be...

:lol:
LOL, I just mean to say that just 'cuz it sounds bad when I post shit here, I really don't talk shit or hunt vegetarians or anything. A lot of my friends are the retarded kind of vegetarians who do it just cuz it's like such a huge trendy thing, but I don't say shit to them... I just rub it in their faces that I have a whoooole menu to choose from while they're deciding between which of the 3 salads to eat off the menu. *GRIN*

But yeah, of course I have my little mean opinions in my mind. Everybody does. It's just a matter of whether or not you let them out. And I know better than to go on a rampage and kill and maim retarded people.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 26 2002, 08:28 PM
LOL, I just mean to say that just 'cuz it sounds bad when I post shit here, I really don't talk shit or hunt vegetarians or anything. A lot of my friends are the retarded kind of vegetarians who do it just cuz it's like such a huge trendy thing, but I don't say shit to them... I just rub it in their faces that I have a whoooole menu to choose from while they're deciding between which of the 3 salads to eat off the menu. *GRIN*
hehheh i always ask my vegetarian friends if they want one of the meat dishes. one particular friend always says "no thanks, i'm trying to cut down." :lol:

[Fireblade]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 26 2002, 05:28 PM
LOL, I just mean to say that just 'cuz it sounds bad when I post shit here, I really don't talk shit or hunt vegetarians or anything. A lot of my friends are the retarded kind of vegetarians who do it just cuz it's like such a huge trendy thing, but I don't say shit to them... I just rub it in their faces that I have a whoooole menu to choose from while they're deciding between which of the 3 salads to eat off the menu. *GRIN*
Yea, that kinda thinking is stupid as fawk.
Well I vouche that being a veggie is hard as hell. My friend is the living contridiction of a veggie. Actually he's a pardox of man, and weird ass hell too. He's been a vegitarian for his whole life, since age 6, cuz he watched roosters or chickens die or something. I'm not sure what. Trama would do that to a child. Anyway, he's like 5'10" and he's 245lbs. He's in the army reserve, but he's a pacisfist. He watches Star Trek. He's going be an computer engineer. Whoo.
I tried to help him become a full vegan (eating no animal by-product) by trying to become a vegetrian. I held out on meat for a full month. Then I cracked. One day I passed McDonalds, and I just simply couldn't take it anymore. I ran in and ordered 6 big-macs and called my friend up, saying I couldn't be a veggie anymore.
There are ppl who do it for health reasons. There are others who do it for a lifestyle. And then there are ppl who do it cuz they're retarded. I've tried, and I broke. I think my body was craving meat, even though I ate hella nuts and tofu. Pasta and tomatoes with white sauce held me out for a while. Then I started dreaming about steaks and stuff. It was HARD. I'm surprised I lasted that long too.

[537]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 26 2002, 05:28 PM
LOL, I just mean to say that just 'cuz it sounds bad when I post shit here, I really don't talk shit or hunt vegetarians or anything. A lot of my friends are the retarded kind of vegetarians who do it just cuz it's like such a huge trendy thing, but I don't say shit to them... I just rub it in their faces that I have a whoooole menu to choose from while they're deciding between which of the 3 salads to eat off the menu. *GRIN*

But yeah, of course I have my little mean opinions in my mind. Everybody does. It's just a matter of whether or not you let them out. And I know better than to go on a rampage and kill and maim retarded people.
puahahahahah I do that to people too!

Well except for my own sister because she doesn't claim to be a vegetarian, she just eats seafood-only meals or vegetarian meals.

[tapestrybabe]

i use to be a huge meat eater... steak, chicken, roast beef, hamburgers, buffalo wings, etc... etc... anyways, i'm 30 now... and i decided to become a vegetarian when i was in 10 grade in high school... for a new years resolution... and i didnt do it for health reasons, i didnt do it out of moral reasons-- i just did it to see if i could pull it off...

and i remained a vegetarian until the year 2000... and wellz, i was introduced to korean food at the time... which made me start eating meat in the first place...

[angel nympho]

I read an article in a parenting magazine the other day that reminded me of this thread. It's about parents who impose their own eating habits on their kids without really realizing how bad it can be. Said something about how parents give their kids totally vegan diets without thinking about how it affects kids. They said there's a line between eating healty and in moderation and obsessing over categorizing food as "good" and "bad," and if you cross that line, your kids can end up pretty fucked in the head.

For instance, some parent put their kids on health craze diets and one day her daughter came home to her and said "I can't be friends with anybody at school anymore. They're all bad. They eat cookies."

Especially for kids, it's really good to eat a little bit of everything (even junk food) in moderation.

[rakovlam]

oh well, its their loss.

[kasia]

if we raise and slaughter animals in the right way, it's actually more humane for them to be eaten by us than torn apart by other animals. ....but right now we don't raise and slaughter animals properly...

[kimpossible]

I killed my dinner the other night. I'm thinking of moving up to hunting.

[ChairmanMah]

do vegetarians have nice asses or are they too bony?

has anyone ever screwed a veg?

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 31 2002, 01:57 PM
do vegetarians have nice asses or are they too bony?
Dunno about the bootay but vegetarians taste better. I saw this on a bumper sticker.

[kasia]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Dec 31 2002, 01:27 PM
I killed my dinner the other night. I'm thinking of moving up to hunting.
how? like this: http://forums.yellowworld.org/index.php?ac...=ST&f=48&t=4724 (http://forums.yellowworld.org/index.php?act=ST&f=48&t=4724) ? :blink:

j/k

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by kasia@Dec 31 2002, 02:07 PM
how? like this: http://forums.yellowworld.org/index.php?ac...=ST&f=48&t=4724 (http://forums.yellowworld.org/index.php?act=ST&f=48&t=4724) ? :blink:

j/k
I'm higher up on the food chain than the bebbeh. It should get in me belleh.

Already read it. That is messed up. How did the guy get a stillborn baby? I think he should join forces with that German cannibal penis eater.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Dec 31 2002, 05:11 PM
How did the guy get a stillborn baby?
hey it's the mainland. just bribe a nurse.

[angel nympho]

It's funny when people trip over *killing animals* for food.. but walk around in leather boots and fur coats. :D

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by kasia@Dec 31 2002, 03:49 PM
if we raise and slaughter animals in the right way, it's actually more humane for them to be eaten by us than torn apart by other animals. ....but right now we don't raise and slaughter animals properly...
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:14 PM
It's funny when people trip over *killing animals* for food.. but walk around in leather boots and fur coats. :D
yeah that's why the people who are really militant about it are vegans.

[wylin]

vegans who sit on the german cars w/ lotsa soft leather and wear leather shoes and leather jackets. vegans my ass.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by wylin@Dec 31 2002, 06:23 PM
vegans who sit on the german cars w/ lotsa soft leather and wear leather shoes and leather jackets. vegans my ass.
well... yeah i know a vegan who wear leather shoes hehehe. i always made fun of him about it. but most vegans i know do stay away from leather.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... &nbsp;but killing is killing. &nbsp;and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... &nbsp;pass the meatloaf! &nbsp; &nbsp;:P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.

[wylin]

killing is good watever knocks down the biomass im all for it!

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.
Maybe we don't NEED to eat meat to SURVIVE, but meat IS necessary for us to be healthy. It's important to have a heatlhy well-rounded deit. And, no, protein pills don't count.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.
Maybe we don't NEED to eat meat to SURVIVE, but meat IS necessary for us to be healthy. It's important to have a heatlhy well-rounded deit. And, no, protein pills don't count.
there're plenty of supplement pills you could take. hell most vegetarians i know are more healthy than the average meat-eater. but that could just be because vegetarians are generally more health conscious people (or is that a stereotype?). i really don't see a reason why we eat meat other than that it's delicious.

again, not trying to convince anyone to give up meat here. i love meat myself.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 03:42 PM
i love meat
*butthead laugh*

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Dec 31 2002, 11:48 PM
*butthead laugh*
aahhh shut up... <_< :P

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.
Maybe we don't NEED to eat meat to SURVIVE, but meat IS necessary for us to be healthy. It's important to have a heatlhy well-rounded deit. And, no, protein pills don't count.
there're plenty of supplement pills you could take. hell most vegetarians i know are more healthy than the average meat-eater. but that could just be because vegetarians are generally more health conscious people (or is that a stereotype?). i really don't see a reason why we eat meat other than that it's delicious.

again, not trying to convince anyone to give up meat here. i love meat myself.
I said, not counting supplemental pills, though. Like, contratulations for being healty by popping pills, but who wants to spend every morning counting how many pills you need to carry around for the day? How can THAT be better than just eating a well-rounded diet the way God intended?? Hahaha, anyway, yeah I'm not trying to convince anyone either, I just don't see how people can think that popping pills is healthier...

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 1 2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.
Maybe we don't NEED to eat meat to SURVIVE, but meat IS necessary for us to be healthy. It's important to have a heatlhy well-rounded deit. And, no, protein pills don't count.
there're plenty of supplement pills you could take. hell most vegetarians i know are more healthy than the average meat-eater. but that could just be because vegetarians are generally more health conscious people (or is that a stereotype?). i really don't see a reason why we eat meat other than that it's delicious.

again, not trying to convince anyone to give up meat here. i love meat myself.
I said, not counting supplemental pills, though. Like, contratulations for being healty by popping pills, but who wants to spend every morning counting how many pills you need to carry around for the day? How can THAT be better than just eating a well-rounded diet the way God intended?? Hahaha, anyway, yeah I'm not trying to convince anyone either, I just don't see how people can think that popping pills is healthier...
*shrug* you said protein pills. there are other supplementary pills that aren't protein pills.
i don't know. most vegans and vegetarians do it. and they're not the ones that are having problems with obesity and cholesterol. i don't see why it's not healthy. you're giving your body what it needs with those pills, and you're doing it without eating the dead bodies of animals.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 1 2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 1 2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.
Maybe we don't NEED to eat meat to SURVIVE, but meat IS necessary for us to be healthy. It's important to have a heatlhy well-rounded deit. And, no, protein pills don't count.
there're plenty of supplement pills you could take. hell most vegetarians i know are more healthy than the average meat-eater. but that could just be because vegetarians are generally more health conscious people (or is that a stereotype?). i really don't see a reason why we eat meat other than that it's delicious.

again, not trying to convince anyone to give up meat here. i love meat myself.
I said, not counting supplemental pills, though. Like, contratulations for being healty by popping pills, but who wants to spend every morning counting how many pills you need to carry around for the day? How can THAT be better than just eating a well-rounded diet the way God intended?? Hahaha, anyway, yeah I'm not trying to convince anyone either, I just don't see how people can think that popping pills is healthier...
*shrug* you said protein pills. there are other supplementary pills that aren't protein pills.
i don't know. most vegans and vegetarians do it. and they're not the ones that are having problems with obesity and cholesterol. i don't see why it's not healthy. you're giving your body what it needs with those pills, and you're doing it without eating the dead bodies of animals.
Just seems kinda... artificial, don't you think? I would like to strive to be healthy WITHOUT the crutch of supplements.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 2 2003, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 1 2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 1 2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.
Maybe we don't NEED to eat meat to SURVIVE, but meat IS necessary for us to be healthy. It's important to have a heatlhy well-rounded deit. And, no, protein pills don't count.
there're plenty of supplement pills you could take. hell most vegetarians i know are more healthy than the average meat-eater. but that could just be because vegetarians are generally more health conscious people (or is that a stereotype?). i really don't see a reason why we eat meat other than that it's delicious.

again, not trying to convince anyone to give up meat here. i love meat myself.
I said, not counting supplemental pills, though. Like, contratulations for being healty by popping pills, but who wants to spend every morning counting how many pills you need to carry around for the day? How can THAT be better than just eating a well-rounded diet the way God intended?? Hahaha, anyway, yeah I'm not trying to convince anyone either, I just don't see how people can think that popping pills is healthier...
*shrug* you said protein pills. there are other supplementary pills that aren't protein pills.
i don't know. most vegans and vegetarians do it. and they're not the ones that are having problems with obesity and cholesterol. i don't see why it's not healthy. you're giving your body what it needs with those pills, and you're doing it without eating the dead bodies of animals.
Just seems kinda... artificial, don't you think? I would like to strive to be healthy WITHOUT the crutch of supplements.
well, how much processed food do you eat? and even if you stay away from candies and such, much of the seasoning and things that go into your food is artificial anyway. what about drinks?

but yeah i know what you mean. some people choose that over eating animals, that's all.

[angel nympho]

^-- True. Good point. I do a lot of drugs, too. Hahahaha!~

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 2 2003, 02:27 AM
^-- True. Good point. I do a lot of drugs, too. Hahahaha!~
:rolleyes:

[BaiginLong]

hmm my question to environmental-minded/animal-rights minded vegetarians:
hmm killing animals is not humane ok hmm
then how do you explain the natural order of nature
animals kill animals for food
we're animals
a higher order yes, but that doesn't mean we're any better and that we don't need sustenance
think about it

question to Hindus:
if there is such a thing as reincarnation and if you die you are reborn (hopefully in a higher form) and are brought closer to your journey to Nirvana
what is the point in protecting animals and not eating out of respect for their souls or out of the possibility that they may have been relative or something or the other
the most impostant part of a living being is the soul/spirit
not the body for it is only fleeting in nature

to the health-oriented vegetarian:
no arguement here
but I'd rather have my meat that live as long as possible and miss out on some good food

[BaiginLong]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 2 2003, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 2 2003, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 1 2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 1 2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 31 2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 31 2002, 11:16 PM
not that i'm a vegetarian... but killing is killing. and the fact that we pretty much factory produce animals to eat is pretty sick.

oh well... pass the meatloaf! :P
I don't think it's sick. I think killing animals and NOT eating them is sick. At least they have a purpose if we're eating them.
what's the difference? killing is killing. like it makes any difference that their death served the purpose of us getting a meal that is tasty when really, their meat is not necessary for our sustenance.
Maybe we don't NEED to eat meat to SURVIVE, but meat IS necessary for us to be healthy. It's important to have a heatlhy well-rounded deit. And, no, protein pills don't count.
there're plenty of supplement pills you could take. hell most vegetarians i know are more healthy than the average meat-eater. but that could just be because vegetarians are generally more health conscious people (or is that a stereotype?). i really don't see a reason why we eat meat other than that it's delicious.

again, not trying to convince anyone to give up meat here. i love meat myself.
I said, not counting supplemental pills, though. Like, contratulations for being healty by popping pills, but who wants to spend every morning counting how many pills you need to carry around for the day? How can THAT be better than just eating a well-rounded diet the way God intended?? Hahaha, anyway, yeah I'm not trying to convince anyone either, I just don't see how people can think that popping pills is healthier...
*shrug* you said protein pills. there are other supplementary pills that aren't protein pills.
i don't know. most vegans and vegetarians do it. and they're not the ones that are having problems with obesity and cholesterol. i don't see why it's not healthy. you're giving your body what it needs with those pills, and you're doing it without eating the dead bodies of animals.
Just seems kinda... artificial, don't you think? I would like to strive to be healthy WITHOUT the crutch of supplements.
well, how much processed food do you eat? and even if you stay away from candies and such, much of the seasoning and things that go into your food is artificial anyway. what about drinks?

but yeah i know what you mean. some people choose that over eating animals, that's all.
actually by eating the right veggies you can substitute for the proteins that meats are supposed to provide in your diet
but again it's not exactly fun

*pours A1 Bold steaks sauce on a thick juicy ribeye steak* :P

[applehead]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Jan 2 2003, 01:26 AM
hmm my question to environmental-minded/animal-rights minded vegetarians:
hmm killing animals is not humane ok hmm
then how do you explain the natural order of nature
animals kill animals for food
we're animals
a higher order yes, but that doesn't mean we're any better and that we don't need sustenance
think about it


robert, it's not the eating meat part that bothers me so much.
it's the way they're treated when they're alive.
their living depolorable living conditions.
and the fact that now there is so much information on food content and nutrition values one doesn't really need consume meat.
oh god, i sound like a broken record. forgive me.
:)

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Posted on Jan 2 2003, 04:26 AM
hmm my question to environmental-minded/animal-rights minded vegetarians:
hmm killing animals is not humane ok hmm
then how do you explain the natural order of nature
animals kill animals for food
we're animals
a higher order yes, but that doesn't mean we're any better and that we don't need sustenance
think about it

the difference is that we're mass producing animals just so they can be killed for their meat. we don't eat the animals that nature provides. but i can see how people do not see that this makes any difference.

and applehead is right. ever since one of my vegetarian friends told me how a cow is treated to produce veal, i can't eat veal without thinking about it anymore. and that's why i don't eat veal at all.

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Posted on Jan 2 2003, 04:26 AM
question to Hindus:
if there is such a thing as reincarnation and if you die you are reborn (hopefully in a higher form) and are brought closer to your journey to Nirvana
what is the point in protecting animals and not eating out of respect for their souls or out of the possibility that they may have been relative or something or the other
the most impostant part of a living being is the soul/spirit
not the body for it is only fleeting in nature

Hindus don't eat cows because they think cows are holy. as far as i know they are allowed to eat all other animals.
it's Buddhists that don't eat any animals.
but supposedly the first thing that Buddha ate after he attained enlightenment was an oyster, so technically speaking, oysters are actually allowed in a Buddhist diet. i'm not sure that any Buddhists actually eat oysters though.
this is more of a religious argument. Buddhists are taught to love all living things. and eating an animal doesn't qualify as loving it in Buddhist thought. if you want to talk about Buddhism more, maybe you can start a new thread.

[wylin]

Originally posted by applehead@Jan 2 2003, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by BaiginLong@Jan 2 2003, 01:26 AM
hmm my question to environmental-minded/animal-rights minded vegetarians:
hmm killing animals is not humane ok hmm
then how do you explain the natural order of nature
animals kill animals for food
we're animals
a higher order yes, but that doesn't mean we're any better and that we don't need sustenance
think about it


robert, it's not the eating meat part that bothers me so much.
it's the way they're treated when they're alive.
their living depolorable living conditions.
and the fact that now there is so much information on food content and nutrition values one doesn't really need consume meat.
oh god, i sound like a broken record. forgive me.
:)
their just stupid animals though, they dont know any other life, other then at the breeding facility and herd/ raising facilities. whose to say that their life isnt as happy and fufulling as yours or mine? Maybe, its is not totally correct to infer that animals have the same level of perception and emotion as human beings, maybe instead they enjoy living in large groups and enjoy their lives fully before the inevitable slaughter house blues.

[deez nuts]

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