To BL

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

BL,

Sorry about the fracas with your past thread. Miscommunication gets especially nasty over the web. The dynamics aren't like regular conversation and most people don't realize that until a lot of offensive things get said. The way you were talking would have worked in real life, but due to the wonders of delayed message posting, a whole lot of misunderstanding rolled your way.

I first wanted to tell you that I'm sorry about all the stuff you're going through. I'm just beginning to emerge from a crappy couple of years sort of along your lines and I can say that it does get better in some ways. You just have to find that strength inside of you (which you might not know or feel you have, but you do) and keep living your life in a way you can accept. Keep doing the things you love (like singing).

If you want to vent, YW and a lot of nice people are here for you, but is it possible that there's somebody at your college guidance office or student health dept. that can give you even better help? I've found that counselors and therapists actually are better listeners and are probably much more capable of helping you figure how to work things out than random people on the web. We mean well, but you see how things get...

Anyways, if it makes you feel better and keeps you sane, please keep posting here. I can't emphasize enough though that there might be better resources on campus for you.

Nice song by the way.

[BaiginLong]

Yeah, sorry, I shouldn't have even brought anything up. Can't even vent without having people spout bs.
Pointless anyway. Nobody understands anything these days.

[karizma]

funny...ive been through exactly what youre going through...dont say nobody understands...well actually...no one will ever understand what you go through because they arent you. they say they do but they dont...but its nice pretending.

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

There's nothing wrong with posting here if you need to talk to someone. If you encounter problems with others when you're trying to reach out like you did back there, it's usually not your problem. It's their problem. Don't let jerks keep you from staying sane.

[karizma]

and at the risk of sounding cheesy....ill listen...dont question why a complete stranger would want to lend a helping hand...just take the hand yea? you can instant message me at: aznkarizma

[SunWuKong]

just a note.
any belligerent posts here that resemble those at the other thread will be summarily deleted and the poster put on a list that requires all posting be approved by a mod.
i'm not going to tolerate any bullshit on this thread.
again, people's problems are relative in weight to their own experiences. if you only have unsupportive things to say, then please don't say it here.

[applehead]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Dec 15 2002, 01:47 AM
Yeah, sorry, I shouldn't have even brought anything up. Can't even vent without having people spout bs.
Pointless anyway. Nobody understands anything these days.
robert. really.. i *think* you're allowed to vent here if you wish.. :lol: :lol:
don't feel so bad. i'm glad you posted.. sometimes, just talking about it makes you feel better..

[deez nuts]

Sorry. I hate to interrupt. But YW is not a counseling center. We're not really trained for counseling (at least some had training, including yours truly, but it's not my thing). You can come here looking for support or a sympathetic ear. But I can't personally gurantee you'll get the advice you want to hear or that you will like what you hear.

I just read the mess that occurred in the earlier thread. None of us are certified counselors or board certified Psychologists or Psychiatrists, not that I know off anyways.

BL if you feel truly depressed due to the unfortunate incidences that occurred in your life. Go speak to a counselor at your university or hospital. They would be of better help than a group of anonymous faces on a website. This is my advice to you.

[BaiginLong]

I was just rambling I and I reget ever bringing this up

[kitty]

BL-

karizma and VBKao are right, ferget those dudes. If you don't feel like talking in RL, you can always talk to people at YW, and we'll be here to help you through the rough times. I can't say I know what it's like to go through the shit you're describing, but I know that it's always better to talk about it. And who better than a bunch of caring strangers willing to listen?

We'll be here if you feel like talking and if you don't, we'll still continue with our mindless chatter...

kitty

[deez nuts]

So many caring folks here YW. Makes me warm and fuzzy.

Edit: You're a lucky guy, BL.

[BaiginLong]

here we go again
dammit first American Idol then this crap happens
American Idol I can survive having a friend, that I had feeling for mind you, leave because she got pregnant
that I dunno
DAMN IT!!!!!
My life is a freakin drama.....

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Feb 2 2003, 09:01 AM
here we go again
dammit first American Idol then this crap happens
American Idol I can survive having a friend, that I had feeling for mind you, leave because she got pregnant
that I dunno
DAMN IT!!!!!
My life is a freakin drama.....
....? you knocked a girl up?

i'm so confused :confused:

[BaiginLong]

no her bf did in August!
and she didn't "know" that she was pregnant until last friday
she left school last friday
arrgghhh

[amietron]

move on. she's not worth your time. she has a boyfriend and in a few months will have a kid.

[BaiginLong]

she's a friend still and this just pisses me off
I mean how could her bf have been so careless and shit
and she's gone now
I won't be able to see one of my best female friends
arrrgghhhh
this isn't that simple

[amietron]

y'know.. you can't just blame the guy for all of this. it's partially her fault too. she had the final say in whether she wanted to get knocked up. it is afterall ultimately her responsibility to take care of her own body. if she didn't want to get pregnant, she should've made sure he was wearing a condom, she could've taken birth control pills or gotten shots or most effective of all, she could've practiced abstinance.

[BaiginLong]

argghhh I know but I just didn't think that she would do something like that
now she won't be able to finish college and whatnot it's just frustrating

[amietron]

shall we face reality now? sometimes people do the things you'd never imagine they'd do. that's just one example of it.

i'd like to designate this a BL whine/rant/bitch/moan zone. if you want no part of it, beware and get out. thanks.

[Fireblade]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Feb 2 2003, 02:00 AM
argghhh I know but I just didn't think that she would do something like that
now she won't be able to finish college and whatnot it's just frustrating
Look man. This is just advice. So please don't take this the wrong way.
One my best friends (who's also my ex) had this happen to her. And you know what? I CAN'T DO A DAMN THING FOR HER. This is because she got married a week after she turned 18, and she got a kid when she 19. She had the ability to go to college, but now she can't. She's busy taking care of the kid, while the husband goes out and works.

Sorry man. You can't do anything for her. She now has a life so drastically different from yours, that there is no way you can help her. The only thing you can do for her is just be there to talk. But don't think that getting fustrated about this will help you any with how you're feeling. You're fustrated. You're angry. You feel as though she pushed her entire life down the drain. At least that's what I felt when I found out.

Well, if she decides to keep the kid, her life will change. And she may or may not include you. But the fact is, she has a family of her own to take of now. She won't have time to go to college. She won't have time to chill with friends. She has to take care of her baby. She has to make sure her husband is doing the things he needs to be doing for them both. She needs to plan for the immediate future. Trust me, you have to accept the changes that are now rapidly taking over her life.

If you need to talk about it, just e-mail me. Rilord@yahoo.com

[achtungbaby]

BL -- please take up the offers of various YW members to email or PM them privately about your respective issues. You'll get better advice that way and make yourself less of a target for insensitive comments.

[BaiginLong]

heh yeah I guess

[achtungbaby]

Thanks dude.

Closing...