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Craig
12-14-2002, 01:35 AM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/educ...perfect12m.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/education/134594447_perfect12m.html)

4th time's the charm for perfect SAT score

By The Associated Press

SUNNYSIDE, Yakima County — When Matthew Van Wingerden opened the envelope with the results from his SAT college-entrance exam, he saw he'd scored an 800 on the math portion and an 800 on the reading portion.

"So, is that good?" asked his mother, Agnes.

It's perfect.

Of the 2 million students who took the SAT in 2000-01, 587 received a perfect score. In Washington, 34,400 students took the SAT, and only 12 scored 1,600.

"I always thought, 'Man, I'd like to get a 1,600,' but I never expected to," Matthew said.

The Sunnyside Christian High School senior works part time at his uncle's greenhouse, calls himself a procrastinator and almost never studies.

He's taken the SAT four times, scoring a 1,200 on the test in seventh grade and a 1,410 in both his sophomore and junior years.

Hoping to boost his score a little more, he took the test again in November.

"I've wasted $25 and a Saturday on worse things," he said.

Kevin Gonzalez, a spokesman for the College Board, which offers the SAT, said a perfect score isn't an automatic ticket into the college of one's choice. But it can't hurt.

"An SAT score is not a very complete measure of a person," Matthew said. "I do stupid stuff the same as the next guy."

Matthew is the youngest of four children. His mother is a piano teacher and a teacher's aide. His father, Arie, is a pharmacist at Sunnyside Community Hospital.

Even before Matthew was in school, he was working on double-digit arithmetic problems. At the grocery store, he'd sit in the front of the cart and try to add up sticker prices, Agnes said.

There are no televisions in the Van Wingerden home, so their four children have been forced to read and find other ways to amuse themselves, Agnes said.

Sunnyside Christian Principal Dean Wagenaar said Matthew is an upbeat, friendly, levelheaded young man with an extremely inquisitive mind.

"He has always liked to pursue knowledge and wisdom much further than what we ask him to do," Wagenaar said. "He's very, very self-motivated."

Matthew hopes to use his perfect SAT score and his 3.96 grade-point average to get scholarships for college. He's applied to several, including Trinity Western University in British Columbia and Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Mich. Gonzaga University in Spokane and the University of Washington are also possibilities.

He might work toward a degree in chemistry or biology, and his mother said he's spoken of becoming a doctor or a medical researcher.

YuheiCarreau
12-14-2002, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by Craig@Dec 14 2002, 03:35 AM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/educ...perfect12m.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/education/134594447_perfect12m.html)

4th time's the charm for perfect SAT score

By The Associated Press

SUNNYSIDE, Yakima County — When Matthew Van Wingerden opened the envelope with the results from his SAT college-entrance exam, he saw he'd scored an 800 on the math portion and an 800 on the reading portion.

"So, is that good?" asked his mother, Agnes.
See, now that's the part I refuse to believe. He's the youngest child in his family, so his parents have already gone thru the college process with their other kids. Plus, I don't know anyone that took the SAT four times who didn't have a parent pushing them to do it.

At my high school, the grade above mine had 12 merit scholars (out of a class of abou 75 to 80 kids). The grade below mine had a kid who got a 5 on all 14 APs he took. Fuckin' overachievers...

Well, maybe I'm just vindictive. I studied only for math, hoping to boost my score, then retook the SATs; I dropped 80 points in math and went up 100 points in verbal :blink:

AliBabaIncorporated
12-14-2002, 06:05 AM
APs are bullshit. you need like a 60% score to get a 5 on them. That's a failure in a college course, maybe a D or a C if it's on a curve.

TyroneK(prettypretty)
12-14-2002, 09:43 AM
Taking it 4 times might hurt him though. That's kind of weird.

YuheiCarreau
12-14-2002, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Dec 14 2002, 08:05 AM
APs are bullshit. you need like a 60% score to get a 5 on them. That's a failure in a college course, maybe a D or a C if it's on a curve.
I think for a lot of the math ones you have to get as good a score as you'd need for a real college class. Not that college classes are all that challenging; my roommate went to his calc class like 3 times, never did the homework, got a 13.5 on his midterm, and yet the prof told him if he got a C on the exam he'd pass the class. Whereas with my art classes, I'm up at 7:30 for an 8 o'clock class that goes until 11; and if I miss more than 3 classes for any reason, my grade drops by a letter...

pfc beansprout
12-14-2002, 04:13 PM
I think for a lot of the math ones you have to get as good a score as you'd need for a real college class. Not that college classes are all that challenging; my roommate went to his calc class like 3 times, never did the homework, got a 13.5 on his midterm, and yet the prof told him if he got a C on the exam he'd pass the class. Whereas with my art classes, I'm up at 7:30 for an 8 o'clock class that goes until 11; and if I miss more than 3 classes for any reason, my grade drops by a letter...



agree..my univerisity here, getting a 5/25 right in the problems in accounting is a C-...very common for chemistry, physics, etc...what's the point of this grading scale? are we learning anything here??? :pissed:

ellsworth81
12-16-2002, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Dec 14 2002, 06:05 AM
APs are bullshit. you need like a 60% score to get a 5 on them. That's a failure in a college course, maybe a D or a C if it's on a curve.
yea, if i had known shit like that back in HS, i would've taken as many APs as possible, and get all those BS fluff classes outta the way to take desirable courses.

i wonder why they don't tell you these things ......... :pissed:

AliBabaIncorporated
12-16-2002, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by ellsworth81@Dec 17 2002, 01:49 AM
yea, if i had known shit like that back in HS, i would've taken as many APs as possible, and get all those BS fluff classes outta the way to take desirable courses.

i wonder why they don't tell you these things ......... :pissed:
yeah, well ... the university i ended up going to gave me credit for a grand total of 2 of my exams (Econ and Calc). Music, Euro History, and US History, they ignored entirely. Everything else, they make you pass a higher-level course in the same department before they'll grant you credit for the AP. I was never gonna take any more Spanish, Chem, or Physics courses, so those went to waste. But I did take an upper-level Bio course ... but I didn't get the retroactive AP credit for it, instead I got endless bullshit from the registrar's about some form that I allegedly forgot to file when I entered the university. :angry:

kitty
12-16-2002, 01:03 PM
Wow... I knew quite a few people who got a perfect on the SATs... didn't know it was so rare.

amietron
12-17-2002, 02:55 PM
BL got a 1510. :dance:

:D

Commando_turned_MD
12-17-2002, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Dec 16 2002, 10:01 AM
Everything else, they make you pass a higher-level course in the same department before they'll grant you credit for the AP.
Yup.....

BaiginLong
12-18-2002, 03:22 AM
arrggh my APs were crappy
I got a 2 on gov
3 on Eco
3 on Eng. Comp & Lang.
4 on Eng Lit. & Comp.
4s or 5s on CS AB and Physics C
and 5 on Cal BC

5 on all 14 APs is unfair......
yuck

of course I guess I deserved my scores since I slept through HS

yeah I may have gotten a 1510 on my SAT
but I got a 30 on my ACT which equivalently is between 1300 and 1400 on the SAT
somehow I always end up not sleeping the night before any of these exams though
usually I play games ll night hehe

darn it
I used to be so much smarter before the drowning incident

applehead
12-18-2002, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by BaiginLong@Dec 18 2002, 03:22 AM

I used to be so much smarter before the drowning incident
?????????