Abercrombie

[achtungbaby]

[quote:c6e6077036="misst0fu"]a: abercrombie boy's pants and a tank top[/quote:c6e6077036]

Abercrombie?? You mean this Abercrombie (http://yellowworld.org/modules.php?name=News&file=categories&op=newindex&catid=1)?

[misst0fu]

[quote:d5d4123311="achtungbaby"][quote:d5d4123311="misst0fu"]a: abercrombie boy's pants and a tank top[/quote:d5d4123311]

Abercrombie?? You mean this Abercrombie (http://yellowworld.org/modules.php?name=News&file=categories&op=newindex&catid=1)?[/quote:d5d4123311]

i've known about their merchandise that recently offended many buyers so i don't support any of that. i don't buy things like that.
but im wearing guys pants that has nothing to do with that bs now back to my game lol

q: how old are you

[achtungbaby]

[quote:5d74235944="misst0fu"]i've known about their merchandise that recently offended many buyers so i don't support any of that.[/quote:5d74235944]

Were [i:5d74235944]you [/i:5d74235944]offended?

[quote:5d74235944="misst0fu"]i don't buy things like that. but im wearing guys pants that has nothing to do with that bs now back to my game lol[/quote:5d74235944]

Oh, what a relief! Because I understand the mens wear is produced by an entirely separate division of A&F... :D

[quote:5d74235944="misst0fu"]q: how old are you[/quote:5d74235944]

Turning 28 next month... :(

[misst0fu]

[quote:04571f9212]Were you offended? [/quote:04571f9212]

honestly? no. i've learned to accept that there are stereotypical people out there whether it be for business of mere pleasure. so no i wasn't offended.

[achtungbaby]

Didn't want to hijack your questions/answers thread so I moved this portion of it.

Regarding your last comment -- I don't want to be the person who tries to compel your conscious (since most of the time, I'm unconscionable)...

[quote:d50c288163="misst0fu"]i've learned to accept that there are stereotypical people out there whether it be for business of mere pleasure. so no i wasn't offended.[/quote:d50c288163]

It's one thing to acknowledge the existence of stereotypes and be frustrated by our apparent inability to do anything about them, but isn't it entirely something else to aid in propogating those stereotypes?

[kasia]

[quote:22e01b288e="misst0fu"][quote:22e01b288e]Were you offended? [/quote:22e01b288e]

honestly? no. i've learned to accept that there are stereotypical people out there whether it be for business of mere pleasure. so no i wasn't offended.[/quote:22e01b288e]

what do stereotypical people have to do with people that stereotype?

might as well point out all aspects of ignorance where it exists, eh? :wink:

[achtungbaby]

[quote:29c61bcfed="kasia"]

might as well point out all aspects of ignorance where it exists, eh? :wink:[/quote:29c61bcfed]

Let's all play nice now, Ms. Demi God.

[misst0fu]

[quote:83c0fc9213="kasia"][quote:83c0fc9213="misst0fu"][quote:83c0fc9213]Were you offended? [/quote:83c0fc9213]

honestly? no. i've learned to accept that there are stereotypical people out there whether it be for business of mere pleasure. so no i wasn't offended.[/quote:83c0fc9213]

what do stereotypical people have to do with people that stereotype?

might as well point out all aspects of ignorance where it exists, eh? :wink:[/quote:83c0fc9213]

point out whatever you want.
never said i just sit back and watch all this hatred cross by. recently. i've had alot of racial issues blown into my face. im a stubborn person. i just sit here and take it. i deal with it. it's life. whatever. i doubt that made any sense but on account of me replying to this while i just realized my father is cheating on my mother. hmph. whatever fuck this.

[kasia]

[quote:a9dda3c036="misst0fu"][quote:a9dda3c036="kasia"][quote:a9dda3c036="misst0fu"][quote:a9dda3c036]Were you offended? [/quote:a9dda3c036]

honestly? no. i've learned to accept that there are stereotypical people out there whether it be for business of mere pleasure. so no i wasn't offended.[/quote:a9dda3c036]

what do stereotypical people have to do with people that stereotype?

might as well point out all aspects of ignorance where it exists, eh? :wink:[/quote:a9dda3c036]

i doubt that made any sense but on account of me replying to this while i just realized my father is cheating on my mother. hmph. whatever fuck this.[/quote:a9dda3c036]

well, i'm definitely sorry to hear that.

[achtungbaby]

Whoa, sorry to hear that. I won't comment too much further on this, since you've got much more important matters to attend to, but in regards to racism and just sitting there and taking it -- you don't have to. Simple.

If an acquaintance of mine is talkin' shit behind my back, I'm not going to support our relationship by continuing to hang out with this person -- why would I? I've got other friends! So why would I support a company that does the same?

[misst0fu]

i'll deal with it. in return i hope i kill the woman and have my father in a stage of instability. yea anyways back to the topic. totally understandable with everyone's opinions/point of view

[misst0fu]

[quote:06503232a4="achtungbaby"]Whoa, sorry to hear that. I won't comment too much further on this, since you've got much more important matters to attend to, but in regards to racism and just sitting there and taking it -- you don't have to. Simple.

If an acquaintance of mine is talkin' shit behind my back, I'm not going to support our relationship by continuing to hang out with this person -- why would I? I've got other friends! So why would I support a company that does the same?[/quote:06503232a4]

thanks for understanding. but i can't let things just stop me from living this world. dealing with the hardship. racism will never cease. never. you are one wise man achtungbaby. good example to back things up. haha

[ImrkevinpakI]

[quote:6d766317bd="misst0fu"][quote:6d766317bd="achtungbaby"]Whoa, sorry to hear that. I won't comment too much further on this, since you've got much more important matters to attend to, but in regards to racism and just sitting there and taking it -- you don't have to. Simple.

If an acquaintance of mine is talkin' shit behind my back, I'm not going to support our relationship by continuing to hang out with this person -- why would I? I've got other friends! So why would I support a company that does the same?[/quote:6d766317bd]

thanks for understanding. but i can't let things just stop me from living this world. dealing with the hardship. racism will never cease. never. you are one wise man achtungbaby. good example to back things up. haha[/quote:6d766317bd]

Wow..sad.

Its strange because Eugene who is from maxazn.com, a mod there and the person who was giving me a hard time told me that atlanta asians never face racism..what a bs. Is he even asian to say that? We asians get picked on everyday with racial slurs and yet, hes there telling me its all cool and never happen.....he needs to wake up and smell the coffee there.

[princess]

randomly popping in.....


my opinion? i was more concerned not because i was offended, but because of the message that was being sent to non-asians -- that its okay to support such degrading depictions of asians.

[kasia]

[quote:0afeec6bf1="princess"]randomly popping in.....


my opinion? i was more concerned not because i was offended, but because of the message that was being sent to non-asians -- that its okay to support such degrading depictions of asians.[/quote:0afeec6bf1]

i agree. it had not so much to do with the shirts themselves, but more the fact that the white community persisted in attempting to justify the shirts even after so many asians informed them that they thought it was racist.

there's a fine line between ignorance and racism. but if you're ignorant as to what's offensive, and then [i:0afeec6bf1]told[/i:0afeec6bf1] that something is offensive but yet choose to continue to be ignorant with regards to it, that's when you become racist.

[achtungbaby]

[quote:7db96a9117="kasia"]but if you're ignorant as to what's offensive, and then [i:7db96a9117]told[/i:7db96a9117] that something is offensive but yet choose to continue to be ignorant with regards to it, that's when you become racist.[/quote:7db96a9117]

Using that same standard, am I homophobic if I don't believe in same-sex marriages?

[kasia]

by their definition, probably.

[princess]

well definitions such as that are all a matter of perspective.

tend to think of racism as being more of an active choice grounded on stubborness

[kasia]

[quote:581f9509d2="princess"]well definitions such as that are all a matter of perspective.

tend to think of racism as being more of an active choice grounded on stubborness[/quote:581f9509d2]

can you draw out the distinction a little more?

[princess]

well ignorance is simply not knowing something. racism, as u defined it, was choosing to be ignorant even when knowing the truth. or at least thats what i got from it. one cant be ignorant of something which they are aware of. racism is actively choosing to hold a unfavorable view of a particular group of people. its choosing to stubbornly hold on to this view. bottom line: its a choice. ignorance is not.

[achtungbaby]

[quote:9c34bf23c9="kasia"]by their definition, probably.[/quote:9c34bf23c9]

Then maybe we need to redefine "what is racist" and "who is a racist"...because I think there's a bit of a dilemma when you make such definitions contingent on who is defining them, e.g., "You are a racist because people of color say you are."

[kasia]

[quote:3eaa28f707="achtungbaby"][quote:3eaa28f707="kasia"]by their definition, probably.[/quote:3eaa28f707]

Then maybe we need to redefine "what is racist" and "who is a racist"...because I think there's a bit of a dilemma when you make such definitions contingent on who is defining them, e.g., "You are a racist because people of color say you are."[/quote:3eaa28f707]

well, i see what you're saying.

but the dilemma ceases to exist when you think of morality in terms of cultural relativity. know what i mean?

[achtungbaby]

But that's what makes me feel uncomfortable sometimes -- the "righteousness" of cultural relativity.

Then again, at the same time, I get so annoyed when I hear non-Asians talk about this "universal existence" and how we're all human, and how love is colorblind...

...and-that-they-can-identify-and-ultimately-categorize-your-experiences-so-stop-bitching.