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Craig
12-12-2002, 01:50 AM
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/stor...,160182,00.html (http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/story/0,4386,160182,00.html)?

Outrage in China over arrests of virgins for prostitution

Innocent girls are tortured by police until they 'confess' to having sold sex

BEIJING - A public outcry has erupted in China's state media and its Internet chatrooms after reports that police have arrested several virgin girls this year on prostitution charges and tortured them into confessing.

In the most recent case, a 19-year-old girl from northern China's Hebei province was arrested on prostitution charges in August at a barber shop where she worked, the Life Times said.

According to the report, the girl said that officers beat her badly with an electric baton and that she told them she had sold sex to nine men because she feared further torture.

She was locked up for 82 hours and handcuffed to a heater for the night.

To prove her innocence, the girl went to a hospital for a medical check-up after her release and doctors confirmed that she was still a virgin.

The girl had planned to use a certificate issued by her doctor to sue the police, but when they learned of her plans, they re-arrested her in September on defamation charges.

She was only released after her parents went to the provincial capital, Shijiazhuang, and appealed to high-ranking officials to investigate.

The Shijiazhuang people's procurator later confirmed that she was innocent and that the police had tortured her.

The report is being investigated and it remains unclear whether any of the officers involved will face charges.

The nine people the girl identified as her customers and the manager of the barber shop were also tortured by police and forced to confess, the report said. They were each fined between 1,000 yuan (S$217) and several thousand yuan.

Earlier this year, a young woman in northern Shaanxi province sued police for wrongly arresting her on prostitution charges, but she only won 75 yuan in compensation.

Some critics accuse the police of making the arrests to meet quotas and collect fines.

ChinaLama
12-12-2002, 03:05 AM
See, this is what happens when MAMMON rather than MAO rules Chinese society .

loserbutt
12-12-2002, 06:35 PM
eh, china has a tradition of authoritarianism

Chris
12-12-2002, 06:56 PM
damn that hella fuck up. That all i got to say.

ChairmanMah
12-12-2002, 07:06 PM
that's is f'd up,

but i guess you have to keep over a billion people under control somehow.

angel nympho
12-12-2002, 07:20 PM
Uhh, while I think that prostitution should be legal... and while I think that them cops need to fry in hell... I don't think a doctor can confirm that you're a virgin.

deez nuts
12-12-2002, 07:31 PM
You can examine and get a general idea if a woman is sexually active or not but to be 100% sure is kinda iffy.

angel nympho
12-12-2002, 07:46 PM
^-- But some girls are just born looser or tighter than others. I don't think a doctor can tell ANYTHING for sure. Otherwise, they wouldn't bother asking.

ChinaLama
12-12-2002, 07:53 PM
^-- But some girls are just born looser or tighter than others. I don't think a doctor can tell ANYTHING for sure. Otherwise, they wouldn't bother asking.

I think you can tell if a girl's a virgin cuz her hymen's untorn? But a torn hymen doesn't necessarily mean she's NOT a virgin. But how many women have had sex and NOT had their hymen torn? that;s gotta be reeallly rare.

My pt is just cuz you can't prove someone ISN'T a virgin doesn't mean you can't prove someone IS.

BeTheReds
12-12-2002, 07:56 PM
not to mention painful

iris
12-12-2002, 07:56 PM
They can check to see if you see have your hymen or not, which signifies virginity.

iris
12-12-2002, 07:58 PM
Heh, sorry Lama. Looks like we posted at the same time. I think there is a difference between hymen torn during sex and during sports. Something about the condition of the vaginal walls. Then again, I am not a gynecologist. :unsure:

deez nuts
12-12-2002, 08:04 PM
Hymen can break during normal activities. Some aren't born with a fully intact hymen or sometimes not even a hymen. It's the first indicator but not the be all and all indicator.

You can examine the vaginal walls. Which is where you can get the best idea.

Elasticity is a factor but it's also not an end all be all.

Like I said it's not 100% but I can get a general idea with a full pelvic exam enuff to make an educated guess to determine whether or not the woman is sexually active.

Edit: or if she masturbated alot :D

The best way is prolly just to ask and invoke physician-patient confidentiality :ph34r: