ZeitGeist: A documentary regarding Christianity. anyone see this?

[snow ninja]

i'm halfway through. I think it is very interesting and i think i tells the truth.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm

Zeitgeist, the Movie is a 2007 documentary film, produced by Peter Joseph about the Jesus myth hypothesis, the attacks of 9/11, and the Federal Reserve Bank as well as a number of conspiracy theories related to those three main topics.[3] It was released free online via Google Video in June of 2007.[4] A remastered version was presented as a global premiere on November 10, 2007 at the 4th Annual Artivist Film Festival & Artivist Awards.[5] The film has attracted significant public interest.[

[popculturepooka]

^ Well, if you believe 9/11 conspiracy theories that have little to no proof, if you believe that Jesus never existed or that Christiantiy is a "stolen" concept, and if you believe there's some movement to create a global government any time soon, then yes, it's perfectly true.

[LaiSteve66]

I've seen that and I think it's complete and utter bullshit. I tried to corroborate some of the claims they made about Christianity and couldn't find ANYTHING. And when they went into all that 9/11 conspiracy crap, I cut it off immediately.

[snow ninja]

i figured i would get these kinds of responses from people, esp. devout christians.

points would be completely written off as untrue and they would still truly believe in their faiths.

It could be ignorance, and not wanting to accept it, which i also expected.

[popculturepooka]

i figured i would get these kinds of responses from people, esp. devout christians.

Except for the fact that LaiSteve isn't a Christian? Fail.

points would be completely written off as untrue.....

Because they are? Fail.

It could be ignorance, and not wanting to accept it, which i also expected.

Why are people so desperate to believe conspiracy theories? Apply that part to yourself. Fail.

[snow ninja]

historical events have shown that the US has staged events to provoke their entry into WW1 WW2 and Vietnam and now the Middle East. You should see the entire documentary.

the Vietnam war was provoked by the Gulf of Tonkin attack which never happened. This i already knew from another documentary on Vietnam here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LctoUV-tag

Millions dead for nothing.

Hitler used a similar tactic.

[LaiSteve66]

i figured i would get these kinds of responses from people, esp. devout christians.

I'm an Atheist so this ad hominem won't work.

points would be completely written off as untrue and they would still truly believe in their faiths.

9/11 conspiracy theories that have thoroughly debunked over and over and unsubstantiated claims about Christianity, ummmmm yeah.

It could be ignorance, and not wanting to accept it, which i also expected.

Or, maybe not having corroborating, reliable, or credible sources supporting the claims in ZeitGeist. Unless of course, you have some supporting sources that meet the above criteria.

I wouldn't call it ignorance, but healthy skepticism.

historical events have shown that the US has staged events to provoke their entry into WW1 WW2 and Vietnam and now the Middle East. You should see the entire documentary.

the Vietnam war was provoked by the Gulf of Tonkin attack which never happened. This i already knew from another documentary on Vietnam here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LctoUV-tag

Millions dead for nothing.

Hitler used a similar tactic.

And how does any of this support the claims made in ZeitGeist? The simple answers is.... it doesn't.

[Sunflare]

*Getting chips and a couple of beers, tuning in to the action in this thread*

[snow ninja]

i'm sippin a beer right now. are you going to watch those vids i posted? :))))

[Sunflare]

I will look at the documentary but I'm not going to bother debating religion or athiest issues. I honestly am sick and tired of people giving me crap questioning me on my beliefs. I'm not hearing that shit.

Don't take it the wrong way. I just have no interest in issues like this anymore. Arguing over this is just stupid.

[J Honcanese]

i figured i would get these kinds of responses from people, esp. devout christians.

points would be completely written off as untrue and they would still truly believe in their faiths.

It could be ignorance, and not wanting to accept it, which i also expected.Dude, if you paid enough attention you'd see the links on Creationism in LaiSteve's sig.

I would also like to point out that there ARE people who don't blindly believe in their faith; faith and open-mindedness are not always mutually exclusive. In fact most Christians I know fall under this category.

I don't know about you but every time I see the phrase "conspiracy theory" it sends alarm bells ringing through my head. It's all interesting stuff to consider but I'm not one to be convinced until I see a coherent, logical argument that is solid or strong enough to overturn the conventional viewpoint.

[snow ninja]

honestly i don't emphasize too much on the christianity part since i do believe in those rights and freedoms but i think there are many valid points to consider and if you look at the other documentary i posted called "modern racist paradigm" i see the media as a tool for mind control.

I see what you are saying J Honc, i think some of these religious freaks have gone overboard with this stuff and it's causing disorder in this world. and i feel we are all being victimized by capitalism because only a very few hold most of the wealth.

[Sunflare]

if you look at the other documentary i posted called "modern racist paradigm" i see the media as a tool for mind control.

This particular point I agree with. Throughout modern history, various countries has used the media, as well as the entertainment industry, particularly the western media, to distort their perceptions on the real world reality.

I never saw this particular doucementary, but I can see clearly that the media and the entertainment industry is certainly affecting American society in a very negative way, with some exceptions. There no conspiracy theory to it. It's plain obvious.