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VV o n g B a
06-18-2008, 11:07 AM
from the "that's the best u could come up with?" department.

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Chinese South Africans now black

The High Court in South Africa has ruled that Chinese South Africans are to be reclassified as black people.

It made the order so that ethnic Chinese could benefit from affirmative action policies, aimed at improving living standards for black people.
The Chinese Association of South Africa took the government to court, saying its members had been discriminated against.

An estimated 200,000 ethnic Chinese live in South Africa.

The association said their members often failed to qualify for business contracts and job promotions because they were regarded as whites.

The association said Chinese South Africans had faced widespread discrimination during the years of apartheid when they had been classified as people of mixed race.

The BBC's Mpho Lakaje in Johannesburg says the Broad-Based Economic Empowerment and the Employment Equity Acts were designed to eradicate the legacy of apartheid which left many black people impoverished.

The laws give people classed as blacks, Indians and coloureds (mixed-race) employment and other economic benefits over other racial groups.

The Black Economic Employment concept was initiated by the governing ANC to help previously disadvantaged individuals - to start their own businesses or become part of existing companies - thus redressing the country's historic inequalities.

Whites still on top

Our correspondent says the ruling provides clarity for corporations in South Africa on the rights of their Chinese staff - who were declared "coloured" under apartheid but are generally regarded as white today.

An example cited in court papers includes an oil company that disqualified Chinese citizens from getting a slice of its biggest empowerment transaction to date.

The company says the group is not catered for in the Black Economic Empowerment codes.

Another example includes a Chinese national who was refused an opportunity to buy shares from the Johannesburg Stock Exchange two years ago.

None of the three government departments cited as respondents in the court case opposed the application.

A study released last month revealed that white South Africans still earn around 450% more than their black counterparts, 14 years after the end of apartheid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7461099.stm

AngryABCGirl
06-18-2008, 11:17 AM
I've met quite a few Taiwanese people from South Africa, and I have the impression they do pretty well for themselves. I'm not sure if I met a representative group, but I did ask how Chinese people fared in society and I had the impression it was like the position of Chinese in Southeast Asia.

yoMAMA
06-18-2008, 11:31 AM
I've met quite a few Taiwanese people from South Africa, and I have the impression they do pretty well for themselves. I'm not sure if I met a representative group, but I did ask how Chinese people fared in society and I had the impression it was like the position of Chinese in Southeast Asia.

I heard that, during the era of apartheid, the south african government classified taiwanese as "white", so they could get diplomatic relations with taiwan.

J Honcanese
06-18-2008, 05:34 PM
Hmm, I thought Indians and Chinese people were classified as "coloureds"...

Leinad
06-22-2008, 04:43 AM
I read that Chinese people were classified as 'coloureds', while Japanese and Koreans were classed as 'honorable white'.

I didn't read about Taiwanese people, but I THINK they would've been in the white catagory too (since they were democracy, while China; communist).

yoMAMA
06-22-2008, 02:56 PM
I read that Chinese people were classified as 'coloureds', while Japanese and Koreans were classed as 'honorable white'.

I didn't read about Taiwanese people, but I THINK they would've been in the white catagory too (since they were democracy, while China; communist).

just shows how brain dead apartheid was.

deez nuts
06-22-2008, 04:01 PM
Does this mean Jin the MC will be taking the next flight out to South Africa?

unemployable
06-24-2008, 11:21 PM
I read that Chinese people were classified as 'coloureds', while Japanese and Koreans were classed as 'honorable white'.

I didn't read about Taiwanese people, but I THINK they would've been in the white catagory too (since they were democracy, while China; communist).

How can you tell the difference just by looking at someone? Do you think that Chinese people look closer to black and Japanese and Koreans closer to white?

Sunflare
06-24-2008, 11:32 PM
The way politics go in South African government makes no sense whatsoever. Why can't they simply classify Asians as Asians ? What's so hard about that ?

VV o n g B a
06-24-2008, 11:55 PM
Why can't they simply classify Asians as Asians ? What's so hard about that ?u would think a well functioning gov't could come up w/ that solution. apparently no past or present gov't leaders are particularly sharp over there.

Sunflare
06-24-2008, 11:58 PM
^ Apparently the govt' leaders really are not too bright. I'm going to read up more on South African history and politics and figure out the extreme stupidity behind this ridiculous court ruling.

unemployable
06-25-2008, 12:01 AM
Things could be entirely different over there. People might have a totally different perception of Asians. Maybe there's an Asian person on this board that's been there, and can say what it's like?

Sunflare
06-25-2008, 12:10 AM
^ I believe the motivations behind the rulings has to do with the lingering concepts of apartheid still within the structure of today's South American government in itself and the politicians there that are still influenced by it. This is what I think, off the limited knowledge that I have at this point.

Sort of like how we still have redundant laws still in effect today in the United States and how we still have senators that were ( or still are ) affiliated with white supremacist groups such as the KKK.

And how U.S politics is still influenced by this Cold War hysteria, years after the former Soviet Union collapsed as a Communist nation.