Are visible tattoos a deal-breaker?

[monkeygone2]

i've been tattooed by three asian artists (chinese male, vietnamese, filipina)...
during a recent conversation, they mentioned that asian-american women (early 20s-early 40s) generally seemed to be turned off to men w/ tattoos below the sleeve & above the collar.

of course, i know that tattoos on your hands & neck are a bit shocking...
just wondering what y'all think...

assuming that the dude seems 'nice', dressed 'nice' and his tattoos were 'nice'....if he walked up to you, would you run for the hills??

[VV o n g B a]

i don't know what women think about guys w/ tattoos, but i know what i think of women w/ them.

if the tatts are small, colorful, normally hidden, and cute, then it's fine. attractive even. if it's large, black only, ring of thorns, very visible, then she would totally not be up for a long term relationship. that just screams bad decision making to me.

[eos]

i don't know what women think about guys w/ tattoos, but i know what i think of women w/ them.

if the tatts are small, colorful, normally hidden, and cute, then it's fine. attractive even. if it's large, black only, ring of thorns, very visible, then she would totally not be up for a long term relationship. that just screams bad decision making to me.

How....predictable and somehow patronizing.

Anyway, I secretly want my bf to get a tattoo of his nickname for me on the back of his neck. I have no problems w/guys and their tattoos.

[rice cracker]

Tattoos on hands and faces are a total deal breaker.

[Paradox]

For guys, the tramp stamp never lies. You know..that tatt (usually a tribal or something equally retarded) above a chick's ass.

[AngryABCGirl]

I know quite a few people, men and women, who have huge gang tattoos from their younger days on their arms, chest, and back who have respectable jobs now. They just cover it up except the gym. I have to confess I never try to piss them off.

[VV o n g B a]

How....predictable and somehow patronizing.just telling it like i see it. like paradox says... some tattoos advertise a girl as low quality. if u don't want to be judged, then don't get one and display it where ppl can see it.

[eos]

what makes you think that only "low quality" people show their tattoos? or that just because a girl doesn't have a dainty hidden tattoo, she deserves to be judged?

[rice cracker]

what makes you think that only "low quality" people show their tattoos? or that just because a girl doesn't have a dainty hidden tattoo, she deserves to be judged?

Nothing says "class" like a homemade arm sleeve!

[VV o n g B a]

i'm not the one that came up w/ the term "tramp stamp." that comes from popular culture. i just happen to agree w/ it. permanently marking her body in a visible manner that could soon go out of style or get distorted by weight change indicates this girl hasn't thought very far ahead about the potential consequences.

as for being judged, she displays the tattoo b/c she wanted ppl to see it. if u freely advertise something, u should expect a reaction. my typical reaction is: low quality.

[rice cracker]

Let's get to the real issue: Asian tattoos on non-Asian people (http://www.hanzismatter.com/).

Discuss.

[Arex]

Of course people are going to make snap judgments about a person based on how that person presents him or herself to society. If it's natural to view people differently because they are wearing a suit (yuck) versus wearing a wife-beater, torn jeans and flip flops (my preference in attire), it goes without saying that people are going to be viewed differently based on something they deliberately and permanently inked into their skin in a conspicuous place for all the world to see.

For this very reason, I think anyone who gets a tattoo--guy or girl--that is not easily concealable demonstrates, above all else, poor judgment. (Of course, this only applies to us regular, non tattoo-artist, non-celebrity, non-prisoner, non-gang-banger folk who do not want to be judged on account of their body art.) And this is coming from someone who has a tat and appreciates tattoo art.

[monkeygone2]

what makes you think that only "low quality" people show their tattoos? or that just because a girl doesn't have a dainty hidden tattoo, she deserves to be judged?

yeah, i was going to post pics to illustrate your point...but i don't know...

i just wanted to know if my artist friends were off base w/ our conversation. i don't think i look like an ex-con... and i don't have to worry about looking conservative for the office... but at the same time, i do remember wearing sleeves & cover-up makeup on my wrists when attending a yw meet-up ;P

[kimpossible]

I wouldn't care for tattoos on a guy because I don't have the type of cultural background that values tattoos. Would all depend on the guy as a total package, what tattoos and why rather than if he dresses to cover them up. In general I don't care for ink and I've never really been in the market for it. But I'm old and married and so on so I'm L7 square.


i just wanted to know if my artist friends were off base w/ our conversation. i don't think i look like an ex-con.. i do remember wearing sleeves & cover-up makeup on my wrists when attending a yw meet-up ;P

monkey, monkey... we're not all going to rape or shun you. i think it's okay to not worry about the appearance of your skin at a yw meet.

[eos]

yeah, i was going to post pics to illustrate your point...but i don't know...

i've seen your tats and you're not "low quality."

don't worry....i have *other* ways of distinguishing between low and high quality people.

[Paradox]

I tend to look at what the tattoo is before I make any kind of mental judgments. Usually for guys if they have a tattoo of some type of skull, eagle, celtic anything, or generic tribal they are most likely going to be an enormous douchebag.

I really dislike asian character tatts but it's really split 50/50 on who gets it. There's a lot of professional fighters who get those so they aren't all douches.

For women it's the tramp stamp or any tattoo on the pelvic area = probably skanky. Also, girls with butterflies or pixies tend to be really fat and or stupid.

I don't know why this is it's just my unscientific social observations. I will guarantee that it's mostly accurate and you can see for yourself.

[Banana]

The only tattoos that I can condone are the ones that have some sort of meaning such as a memorial tattoo for a loved one, a life/death experience, etc. If the person is getting them because of some fad or because it just looks "cool," I tend to raise an eyebrow.

[Sunflare]

Just because a person may have a tattoo doesn't mean the person is automatically "low quality". The tattoo can reflect the overall attitude of the person depending on what the tattoo is in itself and what message or image it is portraying but generally speaking I don't think I would be the least unnerved by a person with a tattoo, male or female.

Hell, I think small cute little tattoos on ladies on certain sensual places on her body is a big kinky little turn on for me. Hawt !

[eos]

^honey, you're preaching to the choir. monkey, you, and I just have to agree to disagree with everyone else here. we are in the minority.

[VV o n g B a]

^honey, you're preaching to the choir. monkey, you, and I just have to agree to disagree with everyone else here. we are in the minority.how does cc's preference for "small cute little tattoos on ladies on certain sensual places" differ from what i said? is that not "patronizing"?

i didn't say i hated all tattoos on girls. just the tacky visible ones.

[deez nuts]

Tattoos especially the ones obtained over 20 years ago some as early as 10 years ago puts you in the risk category when you need to get a MRI because some, not all, the ink they use back then contains metal fragments and some still do now - metal fragments bad in a one ton 3.0 Tesla magnet. If it doesn't affect you, it will cause artifacts (bad images) when you get scanned making it difficult to read that particular sequence. So I guess the moral of the story is to make sure the ink is non-ferrous.

Why would you care if a woman finds your tats to be a deal breaker? I mean for certain jobs I can kind of understand? But, in the context of meeting women? I don't see what the big deal is? Gonna go out on a limb here and say maybe find a chick that doesn't care if you're inked or likes tattoos?

[eos]

how does cc's preference for "small cute little tattoos on ladies on certain sensual places" differ from what i said? is that not "patronizing"?

i didn't say i hated all tattoos on girls. just the tacky visible ones.

I guess I just don't like you.

[Sunflare]

^honey, you're preaching to the choir. monkey, you, and I just have to agree to disagree with everyone else here. we are in the minority.

Its' all good, sis. If us three put our heads together we can win this rant and shut these tattoo art haters DOWN.

LOL. I can't believe that everybody is having a fit over tattoos. Monkeygone2 should have posted this thread in the rant room.

[VV o n g B a]

I guess I just don't like you.fair enuf. as long as considered logic has no place in ur preferences, i have no issue w/ that.

[Sunflare]

how does cc's preference for "small cute little tattoos on ladies on certain sensual places" differ from what i said? is that not "patronizing"?

i didn't say i hated all tattoos on girls. just the tacky visible ones.

I understand what you are saying over how having tattoos may be considered patronizing or even condescending by some people, and I can understand that visible tattoos can disqualify you from certain white collar jobs....

But what I am saying is that I don't judge people on tattoos like the majority of people here thus far unless the message protrayed on the tattoo is clearly offensive and shows an obvious reflection of bad character on their part. ( Would you even want to begin to bother with a dude with Neo Nazi insignias sketched on his head ?)

So again in itself, I met alot of people who have tattoos that are cool in my book. Not all people with tattoos should be automatically labeled as social degenerates, prostitutes, gangstas and the like.

And to elaborate on my fascination for girls with tattoos I particularly love how many ladies choose to have concealed little cat paws, stars, or Hello Kitty tattoos on their lower backs, waist, or somewhere around their ankle or foot area. I think that's cool and still reflects a sense of decency on their part.

[eos]

i'm a girl. nothing i do, say, or think is logical or reasonable.

[Sunflare]

fair enuf. as long as considered logic has no place in [Eos'] preferences, i have no issue w/ that.

I wouldn't call that a lack of logic on Eos' part. She simply doesn't agree with nor desire to conform with the status quo, formalities, or supposed norms of this ridiculously rigid society.

I think that most people who has something against tattoos in general among other things shows that the person may be shallow, ignorant, closeminded, and very opinionated on things as far as I'm concerned.

[kimpossible]

I guess I just don't like you.

While I generally like VVongba despite developing a mental image that he was shaped like a bowling pin (I was very wrong he's quite a handsome young man) I do want to give him a wee kick to the shins for talking up Game of Thrones so much.

I bought it SOLELY based on how much he loved it and I want my $13 back.

[VV o n g B a]

I do want to give him a wee kick to the shins for talking up Game of Thrones so much.

I bought it SOLELY based on how much he loved it and I want my $13 back.really... that sucks. thats the first time i've heard that reaction to this series. i really only recommend books i found immensely enjoyable.

[eos]

sorry for pooping on your thread, kuya. seeing as you posted this in the women's forum, i'm assuming you wanted women's advice. sorries!!!

[AngryABCGirl]

Interestingly enough, I've been thinking about getting a tattoo on my back for a long time, and will probably do so during winter this year once I find the right artist rendering and the right tattooist.

[Arex]

I don't have anything against tattoos and, contrary to my father's beliefs, I don't think having a tattoo, in and of itself, makes one "low class" or "low quality." I have one, my wife has one, my brother has one and many of my friends have them. Hell, I expect my not-yet-born children to probably have them some day.

I just think getting them in places where you can't easily conceal them, if there's even a chance you might one day seek a white collar job, isn't the smartest thing to do and doesn't show the greatest foresight. Doesn't matter if it's a cute little butterfly, the likeness of your grandmother, a flaming skull, or the improperly translated Chinese character for "dog poop."

If you got the visible tats during your youth, during your thuggish days, before you decided that your calling in life was to be a lawyer or other white-collar worker--again, bad foresight on your part. Either that or you're simply a non-conformist (whether you are an artist or a gangsta). That doesn't mean you're a bad person, but it's naive to think that you aren't going to be judged in some way for those decisions. Now I'm not saying it's necessarily right to judge someone based solely their tats (outside of the hiring context) but it is inevitable.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

*shrug* Unless it's really ugly-lookin', tacky, or covering a huge portion of her body, tattoos on girls may indicate that she has (or 'had' in the past) some type of edgy or rebellious streak and/or is more on the adventurous side, but hardly a deal breaker. I've seen hot high quality women with tattoos as well as the opposite. Actually I see tattoos becoming more popular and mainstream these days as opposed to being merely something that gang members or "bad" boys and girls get.

[kasia]

i don't think a tattoo would be a dealbreaker. everyone has been in a situation in their late teen's early twenty's when they're out drunk with their buddies and make poor decisions. some of those poor decisions result in tattoos - even lame ones - but i don't think one poor decision in time would or should reflect on their present character. on the other hand, if the tat is recent, i'd have to consider what it is and why he got it.

being a public defender, i see guys with tats on a daily basis. my favorite is mi vida loca just because it's discreet and its meaning isn't apparent. my least favorite was my client who had the chinese character for dog ('go' or 'gau') on his neck. i asked him why he got it and he said, "cause i'm a dawg". i might actually date a guy with that tat just so my mom and dad could have a good laugh.

my first long-term bf had a gang tat on his chest. problems arose when i had pool parties or he accompanied my family to company picnics at water parks. not real problems, i but i just found it embarrassing, but that's just because i'm always overly concerned about what my parents think. usually, they end up not even noticing or caring.



I just think getting them in places where you can't easily conceal them, if there's even a chance you might one day seek a white collar job, isn't the smartest thing to do and doesn't show the greatest foresight. Doesn't matter if it's a cute little butterfly, the likeness of your grandmother, a flaming skull, or the improperly translated Chinese character for "dog poop."


what if i got mi vida loca on my wrist?

[Newtybar]

Game of Thrones was a great book...the whole series is great.

[artsfartsyjanet]

i dated a guy with 3 or 4 tattoos...one is on his shoulder, a bunch of chinese symbols on his left chest, and one on the back of lower arm. I can't remember if he had a fourth one or not.... anyway, i tried to look pass the tattoos but if my parents saw him with any, I'd be asking for trouble. I personally don't prefer guys with tattoos, but I try my best not to misjudge the person either. All of the symbolism his tattoos represented ended up freaking me out in the end... he had a tattoo of the chinese symbol "ghost" on his lower arm because it was punishment and a reminder for something he once did in the past. I thought to myself, "well, that was stupid. That's what a memory is for...." lol.

[applehead]

basically, not everyone can pull off visible and multiple tattoos.
those that can, look sexy with or with them.
those that can't, look horrible either way.

although tattoos on the face. no thank you.

[Sunflare]

yeah, i was going to post pics to illustrate your point...but i don't know...

i just wanted to know if my artist friends were off base w/ our conversation. i don't think i look like an ex-con... and i don't have to worry about looking conservative for the office... but at the same time, i do remember wearing sleeves & cover-up makeup on my wrists when attending a yw meet-up ;P


What kind of cover-up makeup do you recommend to cover up tattoos ?

[monkeygone2]

In general I don't care for ink and I've never really been in the market for it. But I'm old and married and so on so I'm L7 square.

you can't run from your rock-n-roll roots.

monkey, monkey... we're not all going to rape or shun you. i think it's okay to not worry about the appearance of your skin at a yw meet.
i'm a dork. you're right.

i've seen your tats and you're not "low quality."

don't worry....i have *other* ways of distinguishing between low and high quality people.
you're awesome!

Usually for guys if they have a tattoo of some type of skull, eagle, celtic anything, or generic tribal they are most likely going to be an enormous douchebag.
yeah, i agree on the generic faux tribals but...*awkward pause* i have a Pinky Yun skull and an eagle for a family member in the military:redface:

i may be a d-bag, but...


For women it's the tramp stamp or any tattoo on the pelvic area = probably skanky. Also, girls with butterflies or pixies tend to be really fat and or stupid.

a colleague has "Made in China" on her hip-- she commands respect in the board room & the beach.
and has a victorian butterfly on her shoulder-- she's a former fitness competitor.

The only tattoos that I can condone are the ones that have some sort of meaning
uh huh.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2134/2228344838_0a4e3738f3.jpg?v=0

Tattoos especially the ones obtained over 20 years ago some as early as 10 years ago puts you in the risk category when you need to get a MRI because some, not all, the ink they use back then contains metal fragments and some still do now - metal fragments bad in a one ton 3.0 Tesla magnet. If it doesn't affect you, it will cause artifacts (bad images) when you get scanned making it difficult to read that particular sequence.
i think Mythbusters debunked this.

how does cc's preference for "small cute little tattoos on ladies on certain sensual places" differ from what i said? is that not "patronizing"?

i didn't say i hated all tattoos on girls. just the tacky visible ones.
i didn't mean to start a food fight. discussing 'body art politics' and gender roles is tough when there aren't any heavily tattooed people in the room w/ you.

sorry for pooping on your thread, kuya. seeing as you posted this in the women's forum, i'm assuming you wanted women's advice. sorries!!!
i got a lot of candid answers because of you. there was no pooping.

Actually I see tattoos becoming more popular and mainstream these days as opposed to being merely something that gang members or "bad" boys and girls get.
that's what i thought until i read this thread.

basically, not everyone can pull off visible and multiple tattoos.
those that can, look sexy with or with them.
those that can't, look horrible either way.

although tattoos on the face. no thank you.
good answer!

What kind of cover-up makeup do you recommend to cover up tattoos ?
unless you're a makeup expert w/ an airbrush, it's not going to be perfect.
go w/ a water-resistant cover-up like CoverMark ($30) and make sure it matches your skin tone. there's going to be lots of trial & error cuz everyone's skin is different. at best, you can cover a small area...but if i covered my entire arm w/ that stuff, it'd be ridiculous.


Why would you care if a woman finds your tats to be a deal breaker?

Gonna go out on a limb here and say maybe find a chick that doesn't care if you're inked or likes tattoos?
fo sho.

[eos]

Wow...that was like a post tornado.

[cloudzero]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2134/2228344838_0a4e3738f3.jpg?v=0

wtf, whose arm is that

[applehead]

i meant. they look good with or without..

you know what i meant!

[deez nuts]

i think Mythbusters debunked this.


They did? Wow. It would be irresponsible if they did because I've seen a few cases where the image was distorted (artifact) and in one case the patient experienced burning sensations in the area of the tattoo. But, it is very rare and only with tattoos with the ferrous ink.

I would also take the word of the American Journal of Roentgenology (one of the gold standards for radiology journals) over that of a bunch of dorks at Mythbusters:

http://www.ajronline.org/cgi/content/full/183/2/541

Though not gonna lie. The name of their hospital: "The Hospital for Sick Children" does have a Zoolander'ish "Center For Children Who Can't Read Good" effect.

[halfbreed007]

i love tattoos on a guy,it's a BIG trun on for me. The more the better :wink:

[monkeygone2]

I've seen a few cases where the image was distorted (artifact) and in one case the patient experienced burning sensations in the area of the tattoo. But, it is very rare and only with tattoos with the ferrous ink.

I would also take the word of the American Journal of Roentgenology (one of the gold standards for radiology journals) over that of a bunch of dorks at Mythbusters:

http://www.ajronline.org/cgi/content/full/183/2/541

Though not gonna lie. The name of their hospital: "The Hospital for Sick Children" does have a Zoolander'ish "Center For Children Who Can't Read Good" effect.

thanks!! i really appreciate your help.
i've been told that the actual mythbusters episode was about 'exploding tattoos' (useful eh?).
i found out i would've been underage when those ferrous inks were in use... and after researching, i feel a lil better.

i love tattoos on a guy,it's a BIG trun on for me. The more the better :wink:

how you doin?

[halfbreed007]

:wink: when a guy has tattoos it makes that guy more sexy for me .... i would rather date a guy with tattoos then one that dose not. it's sooooooo sexy

[halfbreed007]

i'm not the one that came up w/ the term "tramp stamp." that comes from popular culture. i just happen to agree w/ it. permanently marking her body in a visible manner that could soon go out of style or get distorted by weight change indicates this girl hasn't thought very far ahead about the potential consequences.

as for being judged, she displays the tattoo b/c she wanted ppl to see it. if u freely advertise something, u should expect a reaction. my typical reaction is: low quality.

Sorry I’m going to have to disagree with this....
Yes, popular culture has made it so that a girl who has a "Tramp stamp" that means that she is as you say low quality (unfortunately there are the girls who live up to that name ) but that doesn’t mean every person who has a tattoo are low quality people ,male or female.

Some people have or display a tattoo because it has a story behind it and most of the time it has to do with something that the person has over come or to preserve the memory of someone in the from of art, and yes I know there are people out there who just get a tattoo to say " dude look what I just got ...it's cool " and it's a tat of something very stupid like tweety bird. I think a person who has a tattoo shows that they are not afraid to go against the grain, and shows that character that they have on the inside , outside of there body so that others can see.

As for me the reason why I like a guy who has a tattoo ( a guy that has GOOD tattoos) is that 9 times out of 10 there is a reason or story behind it and is not scared to show other people though the art that he /she put or there body.

Me...... ^_^ I'm proud to say that I will be getting a tattoo in the next 4 months. It has take me about 2 years to know what I want on my body, it's not some random thing that I saw on a wall or " I like butterflies.....so I’m going to get butterflies" type of thing.
I hope when I get a tattoo that if someone dose see it that they will have the balls to walk up to me and say " hey ... I like your tattoo what dose it mean" instead of thinking
“What a slut".

[monkeygone2]

ppl make snap judgements--we all do it.
i just feel bad cuz...i had soccer moms compliment my tattoos at the beach, but my friend (tattooed & female) got different reactions.

[Arex]

Some people have or display a tattoo because it has a story behind it and most of the time it has to do with something that the person has over come or to preserve the memory of someone in the from of art, and yes I know there are people out there who just get a tattoo to say " dude look what I just got ...it's cool " and it's a tat of something very stupid like tweety bird. I think a person who has a tattoo shows that they are not afraid to go against the grain, and shows that character that they have on the inside , outside of there body so that others can see. Actually, a recent study estimated that 32% of the American population between the ages of 25-29, and 25% of the population between the ages of 30-39, are tatted up (SOURCE (http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=868)), so it's debatable whether getting a tattoo shows that you are going against the grain.

I'm all for tattoos as a form of self expression. It's just too often though that, as with spoken expression, you find that many people only have stupid things to say. (Zune guy (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/17/what-kind-of-man-gets-three-zune-tattoos/), I'm looking at you!) When it's out in plain view, you really need to give some thought about what you're saying to people or, more importantly, how people (particularly the older people who are currently in charge in society) are likely to misperceive you. So I'm glad to hear you're putting some actual thought into your tattoo.

everyone has been in a situation in their late teen's early twenty's when they're out drunk with their buddies and make poor decisions.

...

what if i got mi vida loca on my wrist?Are you saying that you went out one night, got drunk with your buddies and tatted "mi vida loca" on your wrist? Did you not learn your lesson after getting that big "Thug Life" tattoo across your stomach??

[halfbreed007]

Thats double standards for you....
the media has made it so that a guy who has a tattoo is hot and cool,
but has made it so that when a female has one shes loose and an a slut
and it really dosen't help when you have girls who really are like that, just adds for fuel to the fire.

..... Man know that i think about it who the hell made that name up anyway:confused: ....Hmmmmmm wounder how long it took for that person to come up with that one.
"Oh shizzle.... that girl has a tattoo on her low back ,kinda looks like a stamp. I will name it "Tramp stamp"....:rolleyes:

[rice cracker]

I, for one, think the skank label can (note I did not say, "does") apply to either gender. Based on this wealth of evidence: http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

[halfbreed007]

Actually, a recent study estimated that 32% of the American population between the ages of 25-29, and 25% of the population between the ages of 30-39, are tatted up (SOURCE (http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=868)), so it's debatable whether getting a tattoo shows that you are going against the grain.

you got a point there, unfortunately the good tattoos are there with the bad
and i guess it would be better to say ,that at one ponit it showed that you were going against the grain.


I'm all for tattoos as a form of self expression. It's just too often though that, as with spoken expression, you find that many people only have stupid things to say. (Zune guy (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/17/what-kind-of-man-gets-three-zune-tattoos/), I'm looking at you!) When it's out in plain view, you really need to give some thought about what you're saying to people or, more importantly, how people (particularly the older people who are currently in charge in society) are likely misperceive you. So I'm glad to hear you're putting some actual thought into your tattoo..

I figure that i need to think long and hard about what i want, it's not like you can just wish it way once you get it and then say "ok, do over."

I'm all for tattoos as a form of self expression. It's just too often though that, as with spoken expression, you find that many people only have stupid things to say. (Zune guy (http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/17/what-kind-of-man-gets-three-zune-tattoos/), I'm looking at you!)

As for this guy, he is not cool or hot. Why the hell would you get a tattoo of a Zune on you arm.... thats just dumb.

[Yeahman]

:wink: when a guy has tattoos it makes that guy more sexy for me .... i would rather date a guy with tattoos then one that dose not. it's sooooooo sexy
My # is [edited].

[Adaon]

Yet more cases where people's snap judgements base on appearances. Eh. I still want a tattoo of my last name on either my left Shoulder or my right shoulder

[Sunflare]

Yet more cases where people's snap judgements base on appearances. Eh. I still want a tattoo of my last name on either my left Shoulder or my right shoulder


I really thought about tattooing my Cantonese surname. In traditional characters.

unless you're a makeup expert w/ an airbrush, it's not going to be perfect.
go w/ a water-resistant cover-up like CoverMark ($30) and make sure it matches your skin tone. there's going to be lots of trial & error cuz everyone's skin is different. at best, you can cover a small area...but if i covered my entire arm w/ that stuff, it'd be ridiculous.

Thanks for the tip.