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Sunflare
02-23-2008, 02:30 PM
Googled an old article from the Seattle Times, originally published in 2006. It's based mostly on the Eurasian experience, but, sh-t, I can relate to it. Good read.


"Hapas" find a voice in emerging culture
By Teresa Watanabe
LAWRENCE K. HO / LOS ANGELES TIMES
Copyright © 2006 The Seattle Times Company

Kip Fulbeck, chairman of the art department at the University of California, Santa Barbara, has mounted an exhibit at the Japanese American National Museum in Los Angeles related to his book about mixed-race Asians.

LOS ANGELES — In Chinese restaurants, he was always given a fork. In public schools, he was taunted as a "Chinaman" and "burnt potato chip."

Kip Fulbeck, a Santa Barbara artist, filmmaker, athlete and art professor who is of Chinese, Irish, Welsh and English descent, was born at a time when several states still banned mixed-race marriages and the children of such unions were stigmatized.

But 41 years later, as interracial marriages have increased, Fulbeck is celebrated as one of America's leading artists focused on mixed-race Asians known as "hapas."

He recently published a book on hapa identity, "Part Asian 100 Percent Hapa," and has opened a related photographic exhibit at the Japanese American National Museum in downtown Los Angeles' Little Tokyo.

The exhibit reflects an evolution in the perception of multiracial people from the freaks and "tortured mulattoes" popularized in film and literature a century ago to simply normal. The term "hapa" — a derogatory Hawaiian word for half-breed — has been embraced with pride.

"Before, people would look at you like you were a science experiment," said Fulbeck, a lanky Fontana, Calif., native. "Now, we're everywhere."

Hapas number 1.6 million in the United States, according to the 2000 census, which for the first time allowed people to claim more than one race. Nearly one-third of the nation's hapas live in California — 11 percent of the state's total Asian-American population and the largest concentration of hapas outside Hawaii.

Hapas and other mixed-race groups have their own Web sites, social clubs, campus groups, films and literature. Their ranks include golfer Tiger Woods, actor Keanu Reeves, supermodel Devon Aoki and musician Sean Lennon. Lennon, son of the Japanese Yoko Ono and the British John Lennon, wrote the foreword to Fulbeck's book.

One international newsmagazine proclaimed Eurasians as "the poster children for 21st-century globalization" a few years ago, touting their ability to bridge cultures in marketing, advertising and entertainment. And, turning racist ideas of "hybrid degeneracy" on their head, Psychology Today magazine earlier this year featured studies finding that Eurasians were regarded as more attractive than whites or Asians and healthier because of their genetic diversity, associated with a lower incidence of some diseases.

All of which makes Fulbeck squirm.

It's bad enough that hapas share the common stereotypes of Asian-Americans as "model minorities" who are expected to be smart, diligent and well-behaved, he said. "Now we're expected to be superior genetically, too?" asks Fulbeck, chairman of the art department at University of California, Santa Barbara.

Multiracial baby boom

Paul Spickard, a UC Santa Barbara history professor, said three major factors during the 1960s laid the groundwork for today's multiracial baby boom.

In 1967, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional the anti-miscegenation laws that remained in 16 states (California eliminated its law in 1948). In addition, the 1960s civil-rights movement and new immigration laws began liberalizing public policies and social attitudes on race.

Fulbeck's exhibit features 80 of more than 1,100 photos he shot across the country of hapas of all ages, sizes, occupations and ethnic mixes.

At Fulbeck's request, all of his subjects bared themselves from the shoulders up and wore little or no makeup, glasses or jewelry. The subjects aren't identified by name but by their striking responses to the question: "What are you?"

It's a question that many hapas constantly confront. Sometimes, other people try to tell them what they are — or aren't. Although most hapas tell him they're proud of their mixed-race heritage, Fulbeck said, he still gets e-mails from those who write despairingly of rejection and angst.

Victoria Namkung, 29, a Brentwood writer of Korean, Jewish and Irish descent, recalls a painful moment when she was 5, watching a St. Patrick's Day parade while wearing a button that said, "Kiss Me. I'm Irish." A man bent down and told her: "You're not Irish, honey. You're Oriental."

Meanwhile, Koreans have told her she's not Korean because she doesn't speak the language or go to a Christian church. Although Jews have assured her she's Jewish, Namkung has figured out her own identity: "100 percent hapa, my whole mom's side and my whole dad's side."

Fully whole

Some of Fulbeck's subjects defined themselves as what they are not: not exotic, not foreign, not half-and-half, but fully whole. One boy wrote: "I am part Chinese and part Danish. I don't usually tell people I am Danish, though, because they think I'm a pastry."

To the Japanese American National Museum, hapas represent the community's future — a key reason it decided to sponsor Fulbeck's exhibit, said spokesman Chris Komai.

Nearly one-third of Japanese-Americans are of mixed heritage, the largest proportion of all major Asian ethnic groups, according to the 2000 census.

"Our community is changing and we need to recognize that," Komai said. "The definition of what it means to be Japanese-American has to be different than it was 60 years ago if it wants to perpetuate itself."

Fulbeck found his voice at UC San Diego in the late 1980s.

Stunned by three events during that time — the death of his best friend, a family conflict and his failure to make the Olympic swim trials — he poured his angst into a video project for school. It was the first time he had gone public with his hapa identity conflicts. He was shocked when the whole class applauded.

Since then, he has written a novel, staged performances and made films about the hapa experience.

His book, aimed at celebrating the diversity of hapa identity, is particularly personal.

"This is a book," he said, "I wish I had as a kid."




Pic of Kip Fulbeck, APA Activist/Professor and Writer:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2006/07/15/2003125303.jpg

link: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003130151_hapaculture16.html


Discuss.

Sunflare
02-24-2008, 03:44 PM
EDIT: Oh, wait, here is Kip Fubeck's homepage:

link: http://www.seaweedproductions.com/work/default.htm

^Really good stuff in there related to the Hapa experience and various APA topics.

BeTheReds
02-27-2008, 04:52 AM
Emerging culture my ass....

Sunflare
02-27-2008, 08:55 AM
^ No short answers. Tell us what you really think about the article. In detail. I'm all ears.

Maybe I can learn something from your opinion on this article. . . . .

BeTheReds
02-27-2008, 09:17 PM
Well Crystal Clear,
Again, I have no problems if other hapas want to find each other. I don't really think it's much of a problem. However, I personally don't seek out other hapas and when I meet one, I don't feel any kind of silly bond. As most hapas are monolingual americans, to suggest that they are another culture when there is little to no connectivity between hapas in the first place, no hapa homeland, no hapa language, no shared history, no other hapa family members other than brothers and sisters... (tho 2nd gen hapas are around too)... To say that hapas are an emerging culture would be to say that goths are also an emerging culture. And while that may be true, it's a culture not like what the article is talking about. Simply having an example of artists who happen to be hapas doesn't make their art "hapa art". Furthermore, his exhibit stereotypes all hapas into being sad dejected rejected people with chips on their shoulders.

I'm very negative at the suggestion that hapas are a new culture. Hapa experiences are largely individual. Culture however is shared commonalities between a group of people. Me, a white looking hapa with a Korean dad and White mom, raised in Maryland, lived in Japan and Korea.... different experience from the Asian looking hapa, with chinese mom and black dad, growing up in the deep south. Where's the room to connect?

AngryABCGirl
02-27-2008, 09:37 PM
This was on an ad in myspace. It seems like of relevant to this thread:

http://www.hapaculture.com/

Sunflare
02-28-2008, 10:07 AM
This was on an ad in myspace. It seems like of relevant to this thread:

http://www.hapaculture.com/

So they actually have a website working towards the public awareness of the new generation 'Hapa Culture' ? I never knew that.

I'm very negative at the suggestion that hapas are a new culture. Hapa experiences are largely individual. Culture however is shared commonalities between a group of people. Me, a white looking hapa with a Korean dad and White mom, raised in Maryland, lived in Japan and Korea.... different experience from the Asian looking hapa, with chinese mom and black dad, growing up in the deep south. Where's the room to connect?

That is unfortunate, but very true. The complications that Hapas have with identifying with one another is tremendous.

But there are exceptions. . . . .

I mentioned before about a Hapa girl that I know. Half Korean, half Irish. She has a Blasian male cousin, almost same age, Half Korean, half Afro-American. They love each other very much, their bond, practically unbreakable. And they even look alike, both of them share the same features from both their Korean mothers who are sisters.

A short story:

The other day, I was walking through City Hall park in Manhattan, when I saw two men , both white hapas who were holding up signs advocating for some charitable/political cause.

I decided to f*ck around and say, "OK! OK already ! I see your f*cking point!", and then I smiled to help them to see that I'm just joking around.

One of the guys looked at me and said, "HEY! You're a hapa too !!!" I said "Hell the f*ck yeah!"

The white Hapa dudes laughed, and gave me a pound. Then we were in friendly discussion about other things for a few minutes, before I said my good bye's and went about my business.

I think the potential for a eventual Hapa culture is there. It could happen.

Maybe not now, but perhaps with the next generation of hapa's who are very young now, and the kids they may have, over time it just might happen.

You never know. Who knows what's in store for us in the future? Ten years from now we may have a true Hapa culture or at the very least see the public express a hightened awareness and appreciation for the Hapa experience.

There's more things I appreciated about the article I want to discuss, but I'll wait for further comments first.

BeTheReds
02-29-2008, 06:57 AM
I never said that any two hapas won't find commonality, but I can't agree that this kind of thing is an emerging culture that every hapa (or even a significant minority) can automatically have membership in. Most hapas have more natural connectivity to the emerging Asian-American culture then they would to having connectivity to other hapas. Your example is an isolated case that most hapas probably won't have. Furthermore you said it... having an Asian mother is a commonality. Nearly all Asians (with the exception of hapas with Asian dads) have Asian mothers. It's certainly not a commonality that pertains mostly to hapas.

Hapa culture will never emerge until the number of hapas with two hapa parents outnumbers that of hapas with monoracial parents. And even then, highly unlikely unless a few prerequisites are met, such as a specific hapa homeland (perhaps Hawaii, but that excludes all us mainland and Asia raised hapas), a shared history (impossible), and set cultural customs (including a native language) seperate from mainstream America, yet common with each other...

I don't see it as likely... If it happens, great for those who want it. I couldn't care less either way.

The sad truth of the matter is that most hapas are monolingual Americans that have more reason to identify as either Asian-American or White. Those who come together in some hapa bond with lots and lots of other hapas seem to just want to talk about themselves to no end about how multicultural they are. (SEE EURASIANNATION.COM)

My views on the matter are very set... and I am sorry if they bother anyone...

Sunflare
02-29-2008, 09:16 AM
I never said that any two hapas won't find commonality, but I can't agree that this kind of thing is an emerging culture that every hapa (or even a significant minority) can automatically have membership in.

Well if you think about though, with the influx of Asian immigrants coming into this country and assimilating (for lack of a better word) in to American society, interracial dating/marriages between Asian Americans and white or Black Americans, etc, are going to continue to be on the rise and more mixed Asians will be born as a result.

It's estimated that over 20% of the Asian American polulation will be Hapa or Blasian by 2020. (http://www.asian-nation.org/multiracial.shtml)

Also too with the rapid influx of Asian immigrants and other immigrants of color coming into the country, there is a distinct possibility that persons of color will make up the majority in this country in the future and not Anglo-Americans as the majority anymore. They will be knocked off their pedestel. Creating the right enviorment for a 'hapa culture' to emerge.

This change among the American population can drastically change the American perception of the Hapas' other mixed race Americans and their image from a sociopolitical standpoint. It's happening already. We may have a mullatto president soon, a mixed president named Barack Obama.

Most hapas have more natural connectivity to the emerging Asian-American culture then they would to having connectivity to other hapas.


On that note, consider the fact that many Afro-Americans are also half white. They all succeded in sharing a common ground by their African heritage over the past 200 years or so. I think the same theoretically can happen the same way for white and black Hapas' as well. But They may all have to base their common ground on their Asian American heritage.
And as a result, yes an actual 'Hapa culture' can emerge. It may take decades to achieve but it can happen.


The sad truth of the matter is that most hapas are monolingual Americans that have more reason to identify as either Asian-American or White.

Most of the Hapa population is Eurasian by a long shot as a result of our current WM/AF IR dating disparity issue that we are dealing with at the present time, but the gaps are closing at a fast rate. The Blasian population is slowly catching up. Much more Asian men and women are dating or marrying black then ever before and it is slowly being more accepted as the norm. (Many Blasian coulples with children still have it tough because of racism, unfortunately, more that Eurasian couples) So again things can change for Hapas'/Blasians. . . . . and progress in American culture and race relations with time.

Hopefully.

My views on the matter are very set... and I am sorry if they bother anyone...

Don't worry BeTheReds, you're certaintly not offending me, even as I am staunchly set in my ways myself as a Blasian. It's all good. You are bringing up good points that are well appreciated by me and others, I'm sure.

Sunflare
02-29-2008, 10:09 AM
You suggested many times that I visit EURASIANNATION.ORG. Sorry, no offense but I rather not.

I don't visit any of the Blasian or predominantly Hapa sites. I really don't agree with some of their POVs on things.

Either way these persons who participate on such forums, with exceptions, are not appreciative of ther Asian heritage like I am.

Either its Blasians bragging about their 'Blackness' or Hapas' boasting about their Anglo-European heritage. They all take it to an extreme that is totally ridiculous.

It seems most of the mixed Asian-Americans that have true to heart appreciation for their Asian heritage and an interest in APA issues are either here at YW, MM.com or other APA sites.

Sunflare
03-02-2008, 05:28 PM
Posting in the wrong thread. Writing a Anatomy/Physiology paper and posting at the same time, crap. Reposted on this one (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=10485&page=7).

BeTheReds
03-02-2008, 08:44 PM
Well if you think about though, with the influx of Asian immigrants coming into this country and assimilating (for lack of a better word) in to American society, interracial dating/marriages between Asian Americans and white or Black Americans, etc, are going to continue to be on the rise and more mixed Asians will be born as a result. and?


It's estimated that over 20% of the Asian American polulation will be Hapa or Blasian by 2020. (http://www.asian-nation.org/multiracial.shtml)
and?

Also too with the rapid influx of Asian immigrants and other immigrants of color coming into the country, there is a distinct possibility that persons of color will make up the majority in this country in the future and not Anglo-Americans as the majority anymore. They will be knocked off their pedestel. Creating the right enviorment for a 'hapa culture' to emerge.

Simply because whites will be less than 50% of the US population doesn't mean that the stage will be set for a hapa culture to emerge. Furthermore that doesn't knock anyone off anyone's pedestal, as Whites will still be the largest group by population. Although less than 50% of the population, still the majority, until one other group outnumbers them. Non-Whites aren't a group...

This change among the American population can drastically change the American perception of the Hapas' other mixed race Americans and their image from a sociopolitical standpoint. It's happening already. We may have a mullatto president soon, a mixed president named Barack Obama.

Obama isn't a hapa. Some argue that he isn't even black.



On that note, consider the fact that many Afro-Americans are also half white. They all succeded in sharing a common ground by their African heritage over the past 200 years or so. I think the same theoretically can happen the same way for white and black Hapas' as well. But They may all have to base their common ground on their Asian American heritage.
And as a result, yes an actual 'Hapa culture' can emerge. It may take decades to achieve but it can happen.


Mulattos hardly ever have trouble getting accepted as black by blacks and usually are associated as black by everyone else. Furthermore the history that blacks in this country have is drastically different than that of Asians, so it's really hard to compare the two.


Most of the Hapa population is Eurasian by a long shot as a result of our current WM/AF IR dating disparity issue that we are dealing with at the present time, but the gaps are closing at a fast rate. The Blasian population is slowly catching up. Much more Asian men and women are dating or marrying black then ever before and it is slowly being more accepted as the norm. (Many Blasian coulples with children still have it tough because of racism, unfortunately, more that Eurasian couples) So again things can change for Hapas'/Blasians. . . . . and progress in American culture and race relations with time.

Hopefully.



Don't worry BeTheReds, you're certaintly not offending me, even as I am staunchly set in my ways myself as a Blasian. It's all good. You are bringing up good points that are well appreciated by me and others, I'm sure.

Great... it's good to talk about it anyway...

AngryABCGirl
03-02-2008, 09:13 PM
LOL, it's possible for people to have different feelings about their identities.

Sunflare
03-02-2008, 09:31 PM
This guy BeTheReds is tough, man. I'll have to muse over this shit for a couple of days before I can come up with some illustrations to clarify my POVs on this issue.

BeTheReds
03-03-2008, 06:45 AM
This guy BeTheReds is tough, man. I'll have to muse over this shit for a couple of days before I can come up with some illustrations to clarify my POVs on this issue.

Tough? na... just tired of random hapas coming up to me and being all.. yo.. we's brothas yo! When we's not.

LOL, it's possible for people to have different feelings about their identities.

absolutely... but it makes me a bit angry when people tell me how i should feel about mine as if I am a traitor for leaning to one side....

Sunflare
03-03-2008, 08:21 AM
Tough? na... just tired of random hapas coming up to me and being all.. yo.. we's brothas yo! When we's not.


I think you could have made your point clear, without the stereotypical 'bad ebonics.' You think?

Take that as constructive critisizm, and not a personal attack on you and your character.

absolutely... but it makes me a bit angry when people tell me how i should feel about mine as if I am a traitor for leaning to one side....

I'm not forcing you to accept the way I think. You are misinterpeting the manner in thich I am expressing myself. I'm very straightforward and usually come off with my words in strong way because I am very strong in my views. Just as much as you are.

Don't take it to heart. This is only a simple discussion. Stop taking this so seriously.

Anyway, ther is no point discussing and debating at this point, my views as compared to yours. We can go on forever on this, and that's a waste of our time. You're set in your ways and so am I. I will will never change on my viewpoints on this topic ,no matter which way you come at me with your POVs, I will never agree with your overall intepretaion of the article but I'll definitely respect you for it nethertheless.

Case closed. Respect.

BeTheReds
03-03-2008, 09:38 PM
I think you could have made your point clear, without the stereotypical 'bad ebonics.' You think?

Take that as constructive critisizm, and not a personal attack on you and your character.


My bad, yo, fo shizzle dawg, g. No, I'm sorry if there was any offense. Not my intention.

I'm not forcing you to accept the way I think. You are misinterpeting the manner in thich I am expressing myself. I'm very straightforward and usually come off with my words in strong way because I am very strong in my views. Just as much as you are.

Don't take it to heart. This is only a simple discussion. Stop taking this so seriously.


Dude, you and I are cool. I don't think I ever indicated that you were projecting yourself like that. In fact, the conversation we've been having has been the greatest I've had in quite a while, as there is mutual respect. Sorry if you thought I was talking about you. Quite the contrary, I was referring to other people that I randomly meet.


Anyway, ther is no point discussing and debating at this point, my views as compared to yours. We can go on forever on this, and that's a waste of our time. You're set in your ways and so am I. I will will never change on my viewpoints on this topic ,no matter which way you come at me with your POVs, I will never agree with your overall intepretaion of the article but I'll definitely respect you for it nethertheless.

Case closed. Respect.

Well, you say that now... but I bet you're really young compared to me, and I've walked the route you're on right now. Perhaps because my other half is white that I don't really care about it so much, as it's not really some part of my identity that I have to explore, it being mainstream and all. But, all in all, it only proves my point that we are both seemingly set in our ways and those ways are totally different. We (at least you and I anyway) are not part of a hapa community.

:smile:

Sunflare
03-04-2008, 08:16 AM
^You brought a different POV on the issue that I never thought of prior to posting this thread. I appreciate it .Thanks.

So no worrys. Thanks for your input.