initial D craze drifter wannabe

[wylin]

is it me or is everyone starting to think their from initial D and tries to drift in their FWD car and thinks its a faster way of taking the turns. Too many kids w/ their honda civics and integra's think that they can perform a super fast turn by yanking the E-brake or just smash throttle and hope the FWD car moves sideways cuz its suspensions is to jacked *edit*. Or alot more are converting to RWD cars like the 89-98 240sx, 85-97 Corolla GTS, or various Rotary vehicles. Then think they can throw lotsa cash to do major motor and suspension work and magically become takumi from initial D.

Just to be clear i have a 240sx and have had it since 1995, my ish is that yes there is a flood of drifter wannabes and its becoming the next big trend in tandem w/ the JDM look trend thats been vaguely around since late 80's early 90's (since back then JDM was all u got).

Drifting in general is typically a 4 or 2 wheel slide where the car has broken loose in a relatively controlled manner or forced manner and is
skidding it rear wheels. Its a showy style of driving but unlike initial D no one out here or typically battles for drift trophies other then on company sponsored/ magazine sponsored battles on a track. its highly illegal and in california nets u a slew of offenses such as speed contest or expibition of speed. Also u typically toast a set of rear tires if u go to the mountains or what not to do this not to mention is highly dangerous and sumwhat sucidal if u dont got wat it takes.

so wats ur thoughts on this craze. btw MTV few weeks ago came to the drifters in california (southern) spot and decided maybe it might be sumthing interesting to tape...god help us all. The increase in popularity and law enforcement awareness is sumwhat detrimental to the hobby.

honestly its a fun thing to do and especially w/ training (which i personally need to get a skilled at it) and its a test of driver control and component wear and tear.

[ImrkevinpakI]

I like your knowledge on the Drift manuever there. But, i think most kids picked up that technique from reading Import Tuner or Sports compact car magazine...or maybe getting heard from different people.

[wylin]

i was vague, cuz honestly thats all it is just different ways of forcing a slide, using the brakes and goin in too fast, using the e-brake to break the friction coefficent and thus traction, either by using the clutch to do same, the cars power, or the differential and the forces exerted by two wheels spinning at different speeds, using the road conditions like bumps or dirt, and/or using the intertia of the car and moving the weight distribution side to side to control and create oversteer and by breaking traction. its basically showy stuff unless ur name is Keiichi Tsuchiya (Drift King) and u can do that in a AE86 corolla, s2000, s14 silvia, NSX, nascar and be fast. Or are rally racing. its not the fastest way around the turn hitting the apex (early, normal, late) and goin in almost neutral and powering only when strait (RWD style, i dunno for FWD or AWD), again vague description if u wanna know wat i mean go read any granturismo video game manual its pretty dead on right.

[mrazntre]

yeah. i wish the little kids would keep to their civics. will, you forgot the autocrossers out there. from time to time they pull drift manuevers while dancing through the cones. we should probably distinguish power sliding from drifting while we're at it. power sliding is the e-brake pull on a turn. drifting was aforementioned. i think there's also the throttle drift, gas up turn hard and slam the pedal again.

*sigh*

mid-engine rear wheel drive drift... hah! can anyone tell me what that recipe calls for ?

btw: half of those idiots don't even know what heel and toe is. what a bunch of dumbshits.

start heel and toe or rev matching, before you start trying to drift.

[princess]

i agree with tha fellahz...too many stupid young people are tryna pull moves that are better left out of their hands. they take it too lightly. i know people that try to drift by copying videos or downloads off the internet of drifters, especially of coverage in japan, and end up killing their cars. my friend once tried it with me in the damn car and ended up spinning out. they underestimeate how much harder it is than it seems. my friend says "clutch in downshift gas clutch out turn in make the rear end slide out counter steer gas minor adjustmetns of the wheel smile.. you're drifting. piece of cake." <~ HA whatever...

[wylin]

[quote:6e190ed4d9="princess"]i agree with tha fellahz...too many stupid young people are tryna pull moves that are better left out of their hands. they take it too lightly. i know people that try to drift by copying videos or downloads off the internet of drifters, especially of coverage in japan, and end up killing their cars. my friend once tried it with me in the damn car and ended up spinning out. they underestimeate how much harder it is than it seems. my friend says "clutch in downshift gas clutch out turn in make the rear end slide out counter steer gas minor adjustmetns of the wheel smile.. you're drifting. piece of cake." <~ HA whatever...[/quote:6e190ed4d9]

lol yeh alot more skill is involved then making minor adjustments and just causing a small or large skid. ask mrazntre he does that by accident all the time w/ the mr2!

[wylin]

fads in the car culture of asian americans are constant i think being older i seen too many, and that makes us as sumone older look down on kids trying to be what we had already done or become.

in case of newbiee drifting i frown upon it, just because of the inherent danger associated w/ causing ur car too looose control in a dangerous enviorment. i wholely encourage ppl to doit at speed trial or at www.club4ag.com drift days and learn from benson (drift day instructor) how to really control and execute a clean and sumwhat safe drift.

[mrazntre]

wylin has newbie drifting stories

[wylin]

sy, your mr2 is a death trap and you have newbie spin questions.

[mrazntre]

how is my mr2 a death trap? i bet my chassis is stronger than yours. mr2's are known for their flipability. ie. flip and skid on the roof for 100ft. and then unbuckle your seatbelt and step out. mr2's are not light by any means. mr2's are NOT miata's. They are not MR-S. aka misses. my mr2 was built with strength in mind. my car is heavier than corolla's, civics, and most other compact's of it's era and even up until the late 90's.

btw. never spinned before. well, not by accident that is. purposely, yes.

[wylin]

new ideas initial D's USA broadcast should make more of these?

[FClubPrez]

Dude, it don't matter how you drift. A drift is a drift. Now what matters is how good the drift is. For that, it really doesn't matter if its FWD or RWD. Who the heck cares? It's just a different way of drifting with different techniques.

[mrazntre]

uhmm... true drift can only be achieved via rear wheel drive.


drifting is supposed to maintain your speed around corners.. not slow you down, as in the case of FWD.

but if you say a drift is a drift....


okay.

[wylin]

my thoughts exactly, ur drifting always anytime ur wheels slip, mrazntre's drifting ideal is correct FF cars cant do 90% of the drift manuevers and if i ever see u or anyone else drifting w/ a FF i will have to laugh at them.

[wylin]

Originally posted by FClubPrez@Aug 15 2002, 02:42 PM
Dude, it don't matter how you drift. A drift is a drift. Now what matters is how good the drift is. For that, it really doesn't matter if its FWD or RWD. Who the heck cares? It's just a different way of drifting with different techniques.
its not for show its for speed and its a way to get around a tight corner faster then normal at the expense of tire wear.

[mrazntre]

tell all the japanese drifters in japan to swap to civics to drift rather than 86's, s13's,32's,fd's,fc's,evo's..etc etc.