Is there something wrong with me?

[Yeahman]

I'm considered a conservative here. On conservative forums, I'm a liberal.
I was just booted from a Ron Paul forum for not being pro-Ron enough. In 2004 I was banned from a Howard Dean forum for not being pro-Dean enough. I've had posts deleted on a Catholic forum for being anti-Catholic.

I can't catch a break! Do my posts seem argumentative? Am I too independent to fit into any ideologically driven group?

[Adaon]

Maybe for those particular venues.

Here, you're about as conservative as anyone would choose to voice around here (at least continually voice anyways).

Kudos to you, honestly. I like your posts. Get me thinking instead of the usual read and jeer/snide remark I usually come up with, like with NapoleanChynamite or Eos' posts. =)

-hides like a black clad ninja against a painted white wall-

[Craig]

In California people probably think I'm a hardcore conservative. In Texas, they used to peg me as a bleeding heart liberal. Who cares ? I would rather think for myself than blindly follow ... Especially since those that ask me to follow, empower others and rob to fill the pockets of their special interest groups ...

[VV o n g B a]

it may be that u just come on pretty strong. i remember wondering how long u'd last before u got banned when u first started posting. u seem more mellow to me now for some reason.

but anyways, the places u talk about posting are relatively extremist to begin w/. i mean yw isn't mm, but it ain't whitepicketfences.com either.

ron paul, howard dean, conservative sites... yeah, those don't scream mainstream either. i wouldn't put too much thought into it.

[kimpossible]

I don't know what you're posting there. YW is a race-specific site so your interaction here might be seen as a whole rather than a single ideological view or bent.

[Yeahman]

Thing is that the Ron Paul posters were all banned from the Republican site, Red State. They cried foul and got a bit of attention in the process. So I go to a Paul forum (unaffiliated with the official campaign) and it's a police state! They speak of Ron Paul like North Koreans speak of their Dear Leader. A good half of the posts are a bunch of McCarthys "outing" the "traitors." They banned me and I don't know how many others. I considered reporting this to Red State but decided not to bother.
I guess the lesson is that wherever you go, there are extremist wackos out there who want you to toe the line or shut up.

[kimpossible]

Extremist wackos on the internet? Forum drama? Not possible!

[SunWuKong]

Thing is that the Ron Paul posters were all banned from the Republican site, Red State. They cried foul and got a bit of attention in the process. So I go to a Paul forum (unaffiliated with the official campaign) and it's a police state! They speak of Ron Paul like North Koreans speak of their Dear Leader. A good half of the posts are a bunch of McCarthys "outing" the "traitors." They banned me and I don't know how many others. I considered reporting this to Red State but decided not to bother.
I guess the lesson is that wherever you go, there are extremist wackos out there who want you to toe the line or shut up.

that's funny, considering Ron Paul's politics. WWRPD? What Would Ron Paul Do? i don't think he would have banned you.

[yoMAMA]

I can't catch a break!

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tell me about it!

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Maybe for those particular venues.

Here, you're about as conservative as anyone would choose to voice around here (at least continually voice anyways).

Kudos to you, honestly. I like your posts. Get me thinking instead of the usual read and jeer/snide remark I usually come up with, like with NapoleanChynamite or Eos' posts. =)

Ohhh...to reminisce what it was like when I used to care and was still naive enough to believe that posting on the internet could contribute to society and world peace~

ye110man I think you're considered a conservative here because your ideology seems to fall very much in line with European Liberalism, free market capitalism, John Locke, and all that jazz, basically the ideology(s) embraced by the country's founding fathers. It was considered liberal and revolutionary back then, not so much now, when most liberals consider European Liberalism to be the substance of right-wing fundamentalist douchebags. Not that you're one of those. I'm just sayin~ Or I could be completely off.

[thaite]

Ron Paul followers are wacko anyway, so who gives a crap.

When they learn dialogue and diplomacy, then maybe they'll be ready for politics.

[LaiSteve66]

I'm considered a conservative here. On conservative forums, I'm a liberal.


You are "conservative" relative to most of this forum. It's all relative.


I was just booted from a Ron Paul forum for not being pro-Ron enough. In 2004 I was banned from a Howard Dean forum for not being pro-Dean enough. I've had posts deleted on a Catholic forum for being anti-Catholic.


Most forums (especially political one) are "echo chambers" and most people aren't interested in hearing opposing views. They are just there to reinforce each others biases and views and anyone who comes in with a different view disrupts the "echo chamber". Then they are labeled as "trolls", people get pissed off and the person either leaves or is banned thus "restoring order" or "restoring the echo chamber".

I've seen this a lot on modelminority.com, Atheist forums, and in AsiaFinest's Vietnamese chat.


I can't catch a break! Do my posts seem argumentative? Am I too independent to fit into any ideologically driven group?

Your problem is that you're outspoken and you defend your views when criticized or challenged. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that or that you shouldn't do it, however the reality is that most people (especially people on ideological forums) simply aren't interested in someone else's view, a different angle, or "the other side of the story". That's why you're consistently getting banned/post deleted or whatever.

And of course you once claimed "my views are all over the place" and that certainly isn't going to help.

[applehead]

sometimes you're jae soo up suh.
i can't find a better english word for this. sorry guys.
but it's only because you sound like a robot just
spewing out facts devoid of emotion.
but i appreciate that too.

gosh, you're such a radical.

[Yeahman]

^ hahahahahaha. You're Korean?
I'm a very stoic person even in real life.

[applehead]

^ hahahahahaha. You're Korean?
I'm a very stoic person even in real life.


yes.

are you really?
i just thought maybe you just sound like that online
because you're so factual. but you laughed. see.
oh. guys. i think i just got the first "hahahaha"
from yellowman. i should get karma for this.

[Yeahman]

I thought you said I was jae soo up suh because you knew I was Korean. Anyway, you should get negative Karma for that!

[kimpossible]

You are such a drama queen sometimes.

[applehead]

oh yes. i knew you're korean.
i mean the stoic thing in real life.