View Full Version : Peruvian soccer player doing eye slit thing?
mr. x
08-22-2007, 06:36 PM
from angryasian man, and the video he refers to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du1nrqUA7eQ
"What the hell is happening in this photo? That's Peru's Carlos Bazalar celebrating his game-winning goal over South Korea at the FIFA U-17 World Cup game this past Saturday. Check out the video. Yes, the chinky eyes. That's maturity and good sportsmanship. He just mocked Asians worldwide on international television with a simple, tired gesture. Unfortunately, almost any Asian kid in schoolyards across the United States is familiar with this racist taunt. How many kids around the world saw this and instantly learned the international gesture for "chink," thanks to this jerk? You'd think he would've gotten in some kind of trouble for this... but nope. Nothing. That's racist!"
how original, I guess some would say racist, but others would say "passionate" or some shit.
Napoleon Chynamite
08-23-2007, 11:39 AM
Gotta love the equally racist comments. All gloves are off when one person reveals his ignorance by doing something outward. Then people are like, ok no reason to hold back or hide anything now.
DragonKnight
08-24-2007, 10:42 AM
Laf, someone from the Korean team shoulda rolled a soccer ball in front of the prick and then kicked him in the fuckin balls. It'd be an accident, of course. :wink:
grimfan
08-24-2007, 10:51 AM
He's Peruvian. What do you expect? Nothing against Peru, but I don't think it's the most racially enlightened place on Earth.
snow ninja
08-24-2007, 11:04 AM
peru is a dump, they play soccer because it's all they can afford. they probably started off playing with a rolled up ball of rags because they had no soccer ball.
Napoleon Chynamite
08-24-2007, 11:08 AM
^ that's gangster
I remember my dad was teaching me how to play ping pong when i was little and he was telling me that back in his village in China they only had one ping pong paddle for everyone and it wasn't even a real one, it was like a piece of crudely carved wood. Then I asked him if they only had one paddle how did they actually play against one another (or if they couldn't afford more than one piece of wood, how the hell did they manage to get a table for that matter), and he didn't really answer me, which leads me to believe perhaps he was just saying one of his "when we were young we walked 40 miles to school every day" parental spiels.
cloudzero
08-24-2007, 11:10 AM
then a korean soccer player should push down his eyebrows when he scores. then we can have another 2pac-Biggie happy ending
Banana
08-24-2007, 02:36 PM
^ that's gangster
I remember my dad was teaching me how to play ping pong when i was little and he was telling me that back in his village in China they only had one ping pong paddle for everyone and it wasn't even a real one, it was like a piece of crudely carved wood. Then I asked him if they only had one paddle how did they actually play against one another (or if they couldn't afford more than one piece of wood, how the hell did they manage to get a table for that matter), and he didn't really answer me, which leads me to believe perhaps he was just saying one of his "when we were young we walked 40 miles to school every day" parental spiels.
Should have told you they played against a wall. See, your pops is slow on the draw.
^ that's gangster
I remember my dad was teaching me how to play ping pong when i was little and he was telling me that back in his village in China they only had one ping pong paddle for everyone and it wasn't even a real one, it was like a piece of crudely carved wood. Then I asked him if they only had one paddle how did they actually play against one another (or if they couldn't afford more than one piece of wood, how the hell did they manage to get a table for that matter), and he didn't really answer me, which leads me to believe perhaps he was just saying one of his "when we were young we walked 40 miles to school every day" parental spiels.
hubert, your dad cracks me up. dude, just do a thread with all the stuff your dad says. MY dad actually backs up the stuff he tells us, so we can't trip him up or ask him stupid questions.
but yeah. peru. umm....ride a llama around the field or wear those woolen caps and ponchos. that'll show them.
snow ninja
08-24-2007, 05:31 PM
then a korean soccer player should push down his eyebrows when he scores. then we can have another 2pac-Biggie happy ending
don't they love the monobrows around there
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/bd/180px-Frida_Kahlo_(self_portrait).jpg
mr. x
08-24-2007, 07:16 PM
I believe Frida Kalo is Mexican if I'm not mistaken. The sorry thing is a lot of latin americans look asian, they're short too, but we're the ones who get stuck with that shit
moser
08-24-2007, 07:48 PM
Isn't there a significant Asian community in Peru?
BeTheReds
08-24-2007, 10:42 PM
The funny thing is that only bothers Americans because the event got absolutely no press here in Korea.
proazn
08-25-2007, 03:43 AM
Peru elected an asian president last decade. A Japanese-Peruvian man. Go figure.
I guess asians are made fun of in South America also.
SunWuKong
08-26-2007, 08:43 AM
Peru elected an asian president last decade. A Japanese-Peruvian man. Go figure.
a man which Peru has now come to hate. maybe that actually explains the eye slit thing the footballer did.
mr. x
08-26-2007, 12:33 PM
The funny thing is that only bothers Americans because the event got absolutely no press here in Korea.
the only reason I brought it up was because angryasianman did. I suppose I can be satisfied in the knowledge that for that soccer player this is as good as it gets outside of llama herding
BeTheReds
08-26-2007, 01:36 PM
the only reason I brought it up was because angryasianman did. I suppose I can be satisfied in the knowledge that for that soccer player this is as good as it gets outside of llama herding
You know, all the racism against peruvians doesn't help the situation.
SunWuKong
08-26-2007, 05:04 PM
honestly, i didn't even know what that eye slit thing was when i first came to the US. i didn't know kids were being dipshits when they were doing it to me - i just didn't understand what the hell it was supposed to mean. i don't think many Chinese people in Asia would understand it either. not sure if the Korean media understood it though.
mr. x
08-26-2007, 08:02 PM
You know, all the racism against peruvians doesn't help the situation.
true that, I'm sure it's both ultimately much ado about nothing but yes even trivial statements pulled out of the ass (both mine and his) should not be followed as an example
yoMAMA
08-27-2007, 10:34 AM
The sorry thing is a lot of latin americans look asian, they're short too, but we're the ones who get stuck with that shit
cauz most south americans are mestizos, mixtures of europeans and he indigenous people.
but most latin american countries are controlled politically and economically by a small white elite.
yoMAMA
08-27-2007, 10:36 AM
You know, all the racism against peruvians doesn't help the situation.
are there any peruvians in s.korea?
yoMAMA
08-27-2007, 10:40 AM
a man which Peru has now come to hate. maybe that actually explains the eye slit thing the footballer did.
i've heard that his daughter is still in peru.
in fact, she's a member of the parliament.
BeTheReds
08-28-2007, 01:17 AM
are there any peruvians in s.korea?
Not many... why?
deez nuts
10-11-2007, 10:35 AM
Maybe the dirty spic got something in his eye.
BeTheReds
10-11-2007, 07:58 PM
I love how racism like this makes people automatically feel justified in being racist against all hispanics...
mrazntre
10-11-2007, 08:33 PM
I love how racism like this makes people automatically feel justified in being racist against all hispanics...
nice, next time, step off your soap box when you call them "hispanics."
that's a racist word.
good job.
deez nuts
10-12-2007, 07:54 AM
I did use the singular version not plural if that makes it any better? I believe in battling racism with my own racism. It feels great and I sleep better at night.
The irony of all this is that the Peruvian pop. is largely made of Amerindians, who can also be characterized as having "slity" eyes.
Plus, Puru also has an ethnic Japanese and Chinese pop. which makes up 5% of the pop.
mrazntre
10-12-2007, 07:59 PM
The irony of all this is that the Peruvian pop. is largely made of Amerindians, who can also be characterized as having "slity" eyes.
Plus, Puru also has an ethnic Japanese and Chinese pop. which makes up 5% of the pop.
plus, they all call us "chinos" anyhow....
BeTheReds
10-14-2007, 07:44 AM
nice, next time, step off your soap box when you call them "hispanics."
that's a racist word.
good job.
Hispanic isn't a racist word. Perhaps the preferred word at the moment is Latino, but Hispanic isn't racist. Furthermore, being racist certainly wasn't my intention when I used the word hispanic, but your use of the word "spic" was to be racist.
mrazntre
10-14-2007, 09:32 PM
Hispanic isn't a racist word. Perhaps the preferred word at the moment is Latino, but Hispanic isn't racist. Furthermore, being racist certainly wasn't my intention when I used the word hispanic, but your use of the word "spic" was to be racist.
I never used the word "spic." You might want to reread and decipher who said what.
The word "Hispanic" IS racist. It is not about "preference" or otherwise.
BeTheReds
10-15-2007, 01:33 AM
I never used the word "spic." You might want to reread and decipher who said what.
Pardon me, you didn't.. but deez nuts did. I don't think you even entered the conversation other than to tell me off. Not sure why though.
The word "Hispanic" IS racist. It is not about "preference" or otherwise.
How is it racist? Can you show me evidence that suggests that it is? If you can, I'll stop using it. I only went to wikipedia, and found that there were apparently no pejoritave uses of the term.
The closest I can find are Radical separitist groups and aztlanians and they appear not to even endorse Latino, which I think we can agree is the term of choice at the moment.
http://www.mexica-movement.org/timexihcah/thecrime.htm
http://www.mexica-movement.org/
One hispanic seems to suggest exactly that it isn't even a racial term, in which case I am in the wrong for even thinking that it was in the first place. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE1DF1130F93BA15753C1A96F9482 60
deez nuts
10-15-2007, 04:45 AM
Oh for fuck's sakes. Lol.
mrazntre
10-15-2007, 05:07 PM
yeah yeah, you oriental.
i mean half-oriental.
BeTheReds
10-15-2007, 08:24 PM
yeah yeah, you oriental.
i mean half-oriental.
Hispanic and Oriental are simply not the same.
Anyway if Hispanic isn't allowed, what do you suggest I call them?
I never used the word "spic." You might want to reread and decipher who said what.
The word "Hispanic" IS racist. It is not about "preference" or otherwise.
Uhh, sorry - but Hispanic is not a racist term (besides, Hispanic doesn't even connotate a race) - maybe you should alert the members of Congress who belong to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus - that they belong to a "racist" organization.
USCTrojanzNo1
10-15-2007, 08:49 PM
Fighting racism with racism is the only way to go!
deez nuts
10-16-2007, 05:45 AM
Fighting racism with racism is the only way to go!
High Five!
mrazntre
10-16-2007, 05:10 PM
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2007/questionnaire_4_24_07.pdf
That's the US Census questionnaire draft. If the word Hispanic does not connotate race in that sense, then why does it state "For this census, Hispanic origins are not are not races." So for another census it can?
It's the usage of this word in the US that I debate. It was used by a bean counter in the US government years ago to group together people who are distinctively different.
Systematic and systemized use of a term does not mean that it is not racist.
The use of the word Oriental and such other terms were deemed satisfactory 20-30 years ago. Does that make it right? Does that make it any less racist? No, it doesn't.
Okay so sure, you don't think it's racist, but many do. And at the very least, it's offensive, and a lot of the educated spanish speaking population are vehemently opposed to being called "hispanic."
deez nuts
10-16-2007, 07:10 PM
Did some of you not get the memo? Asians can't be racist.
BeTheReds
10-16-2007, 09:10 PM
Answer the question man. What are we supposed to call them if hispanic is racist?
Okay so sure, you don't think it's racist, but many do. And at the very least, it's offensive, and a lot of the educated spanish speaking population are vehemently opposed to being called "hispanic."
Really?
http://www.house.gov/baca/chc/
http://www.nhmamd.org/resident.htm
http://www.hlai.org/
http://www.hbadc.org/
USCTrojanzNo1
10-16-2007, 09:51 PM
Did some of you not get the memo? Asians can't be racist.
Apparently Kenneth Eng didn't get the memo...
YelloFello
10-17-2007, 02:59 PM
Yes, Peru had a Japanese president, Alberto Fujimori, who has been accused of human rights abuses and corruption.
I read somewhere that Asians make up 3% of Peru's population, but a further 15% claim partial Asian heritage. That means that 18% of the population has Asian ancestors. That's basically the most Asian country in the Western Hemisphere. Peru has a history of significant migration of Chinese labourers.
Regarding this 'chinky eyes' incident, I wouldn't make such a big deal out of it. Soccer (football) has the most racist sports fans in the world. Even European fans taunt each other with discriminatory slurs, and they're white.
BeTheReds
10-17-2007, 05:26 PM
Well, even if soccer does have racist fans, I don't think that's an excuse for racism. This is something that we should worry about, because if we don't worry about it, who will? The idea that it's okay to make fun of Asians will only be perpetuated unless we make people aware of our displeasure, but at the same time, this should be done in a manner that takes the high road. Once anyone of us retorts with more racism, then we all lose the credibility.
tripostrophe
10-17-2007, 07:18 PM
^Word, I agree with BTR.
On another note, does tre have personal beef with BTR?
@ tre: I've never heard anyone saying that Hispanic is a racist term, but then again maybe some of us live in a similar bubble to those people who think Oriental is still okay to use (met a couple of those this year..).
I personal agree with using Latin@ however (the @ symbolizes an "A" and an "O" put together :P). Hispanic is rather insufficient, and I'm sure that we'd all be happier if Oriental were stamped out yeah? So let's do the same here.
deez nuts
10-17-2007, 08:08 PM
taco flavored kisses to all of you **mwah**mwah**
YelloFello
10-18-2007, 07:17 AM
Well, even if soccer does have racist fans, I don't think that's an excuse for racism. This is something that we should worry about, because if we don't worry about it, who will? The idea that it's okay to make fun of Asians will only be perpetuated unless we make people aware of our displeasure, but at the same time, this should be done in a manner that takes the high road. Once anyone of us retorts with more racism, then we all lose the credibility.
Agreed. There is absolutely no excuse for the behaviour that the player exhibited, and it is appropriate to stand up against this racism. But people seem surprised and worried that all of a sudden we've got to deal with South American racism. As we all know, there are racist people from every nationality, so it shouldn't be surprising that's all.
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