Do You Care What White People Think About You?

[epmd]

Well, I've been noticing that whenever I criticize the online asian "activists," aside from the very angry and emotionally charged flames I get from them, it always seems to come down the topic of White people and how White people think about us or is racist against us. I voice an opinion that the media shouldn't emasculate you, and they respond that White people are going to think we're emasculated because of the media. I say you should stand on your own two instead of playing the race card all the time, they respond that White people think all Asians are the same. They're worried to death that White people think Asians have small things. And they're paranoid about Asian people talking bad about other Asians to White people.. and making White people think badly of Asians. They even go so far as to accuse ME of worrying that I am concerned that the online asian "activists" are going to me look bad.... to White people of course.

Here's my very very honest attempt at understanding this phenomenon. Do YOU, as an Asian person, care what White people think about you? Why?

Me? I don't care what they think about me. I mean, I have nothing against White people. They are there, but they are no special than anyone else.

Please educate me.. Do you care? Why?

[Craig]

(At this point in time) I only care what white people think about me if it affects me being gainfully employed ... I don't give a shit about white strangers, only those that can affect me either gaining or losing a job, or my assessment in any job that I'm working at.

[Banana]

Minorities have to care what white people think about them because minorities need whites to survive, not vice versa.

[SunWuKong]

for the most part i do not care what white people think, period. but sometimes they annoy the hell out of me, especially with their naive view of race relations, so obviously i care to a certain degree.

of course, at work i do care, but race is only a factor in that equation in the context of the fact that white men are usually the ones that are hiring and managing teams.

[Dimeron]

Only if they are providing me something or has something I want, ie, promotion, job, my landlady(so she fix stuff faster when they break).

Otherwise, couldn't care less.

[mzhsacramento]

Well, I've been noticing that whenever I criticize the online asian "activists," aside from the very angry and emotionally charged flames I get from them, it always seems to come down the topic of White people and how White people think about us or is racist against us. I voice an opinion that the media shouldn't emasculate you, and they respond that White people are going to think we're emasculated because of the media. I say you should stand on your own two instead of playing the race card all the time, they respond that White people think all Asians are the same. They're worried to death that White people think Asians have small things. And they're paranoid about Asian people talking bad about other Asians to White people.. and making White people think badly of Asians. They even go so far as to accuse ME of worrying that I am concerned that the online asian "activists" are going to me look bad.... to White people of course.

Here's my very very honest attempt at understanding this phenomenon. Do YOU, as an Asian person, care what White people think about you? Why?

Me? I don't care what they think about me. I mean, I have nothing against White people. They are there, but they are no special than anyone else.

Please educate me.. Do you care? Why?

Whites control Western media. Negative portrayls of Asians in pop culture can have a tremendous impact on Asian Americans, especially younger ones. So I do care what whites think of us, because they have a significant influence on our self esteem, although they probably don't influence cool Asians like you.

P.S. even though you got rid of that ASIAN PRIDE sign, you remain a douche.

[moser]

for the most part i do not care what white people think, period. but sometimes they annoy the hell out of me, especially with their naive view of race relations, so obviously i care to a certain degree.

of course, at work i do care, but race is only a factor in that equation in the context of the fact that white men are usually the ones that are hiring and managing teams.

What he said.

[snow ninja]

yes, sometimes too much but not to white people, but it's not prone to asians only....even alot of the white people i know..and ei's blacks...self conscious, image conscious, materialistic

[applehead]

i think it's a lie to say "i don't care what white people
think about me"
i don't think that's smart nor true or even possible.
especially if you live in the US or have a job in which
your boss and co-workers are mostly white, or go to school
in which your professors are white.
overall, i care what other people think about me, period.
especially if these other people are directly involved in my life.

[epmd]

great answers! see Yellow World is a cool place, there are rational people here. but to the few that aren't too rational.. ie those emo/angry "dudes" flaming me in the other threads.. please answer my question + why?

ps the sign's not going Asian Pride!! Wooooo!

[eos]

umm, who's arguing with you that yw is NOT a cool place? you're just a latecomer. that signature is really really pretentious, btw.

i'm self-conscious. therefore, i care what EVERYONE thinks about me.

[peta9]

we have to care because propaganda affects how others treat you and affects your life. Because it's a white dominated world as it is of course. If it wasn't, it would barely be on the radar.

[cloudzero]

it's a white dominant COUNTRY, damn whats wrong with you ppl.

[TB4000]

If you work in this country at a place that's not minority owned, you do.

[Banana]

Didn't I already say it?

On an individual level, no, we don't have to give a shit what white people think of you but since they control every aspect of power, you *must* care what they think about you.

If we didn't need to, why do we care about media stereotyping?

[epmd]

hint: control your emotions and anger.. you only lose

[Napoleon Chynamite]

thank you, Kwai Chang Kane

you and Asian_Casanova need to meet up and have a nice little dumbass troll orgy

[tripostrophe]

epmd = golden monkey?

[urbia]

Interesting topic.

I grew up paradoxically not caring what my white peers thought about me but I cared how white adults (teachers, coaches, summer job employers) thought of me. I want to stress here that 'caring' did not equal a great deal of anxiety or worry because I had a good track record of getting what I wanted, ie. good grades, medals, awards, and had a very limited interest in typical girly things with the attached strings of peer approval.

In adulthood, my views changed once I discovered what white privilege was and how I'm dependent on what certain white individuals think in my life, blah blah, stuff already covered in this thread.

However, I'm still confident that I can get my way around the system when I'm motivated enough to do so. Competition against my white peers has also been so deeply ingrained in me that I've found activism comes as second nature to me. I think as AAs in general we have a lot of potential, but our movement is still young and we have yet to exploit our strengths in creative and coordinated ways.

Honestly, I prefer in life to be the challenger over the defender. I'm content with my position as well as my aspirations.

[AngryABCGirl]

Well I'll put it this way, I don't really care about White people think of me on the street in terms of random encounters anymore than I care about what anyone thinks of me on the street because it doesn't affect my life. I'm not looking for anyone's approval on how to live my life and what I do unless it's negatively impacting them somehow, period.

I do care about how mainstream White society and institutions think of me and Asian people and other minorities in general, such as educational system, government, business, hiring. Why? Because laws, business practices, the media, and access to education have large impacts on Asian people.

[Tao]

does jesus count?

[epmd]

^^^ jesus was not white. jesus was a brown man from the middle east.

**gets ready for emotional/angry backlash flames from angry online asian "activists"**

[urbia]

A little off-topic but someone might use the tip.

Hey epmd, if you really want to see something interesting I suggest you check out expat forums for English teachers playing... er, I mean, working in South Korea right now, and the backlash they regularly receive from nomadic cyber gyopos.

[epmd]

^^^ yeah i know about that stuff. it doesn't really bother me (see OP)

[Edwin]

To me it's simple. What White people think about us will affect how they treat and interact with us. Thus they may give us more attitude, treat us with less respect, and be more condescending towards us than they would be towards fellow Whites and Blacks.

So while I don't necessarily care about what the average Joe is thinking walking down the street, I would be pretty naive to not believe that White people's perception of Asians does affect us in small ways every single day of our lives living in the US.

[Edwin]

See the below article to see how racism, even the small subtle stuff can affect the health of Asians living in America.

http://www.modelminority.com/article1098.html

[Arex]

^^^ jesus was not white. jesus was a brown man from the middle east.

**gets ready for emotional/angry backlash flames from angry online asian "activists"**What the hell does your point about Jesus have to do with so-called online asian activism? Irrelevant.

I can agree that it's sometimes irritating when people go on and on and on, whining about oftentimes trivial matters on the internet. I mean, yeah, don't these people have anything better to do with their time? Go outside and get a life, right? I agree.

But you know what's more annoying? The people that go out of their way to incessantly bitch and moan about how annoying those whiners are. Homeless people are losers, too. So how much of a loser do you have to be to take it upon yourself to constantly pick on homeless people? Not quite the perfect analogy, but you get the point.

Anyway, back to the main topic.

I care what other people with whom I routinely interact think about me, whether they are white, black, brown, purple, etc. It's not because I crave their approval. Rather, if you want to succeed, you've got to make sure those around you--and particularly those in power--view you in a positive light. Living in America, it just so happens that most of those people are going to be white.

I like to think I've led a reasonably successful life so far. I'm happily married and am earning a decent living. My friends, most of whom are Asian, are also doing well for themselves. But I don't believe that just because I'm doing fine on an individual level, I needn't concern myself with overall mainstream views on Asians and Asian Americans. I think it's a little shortsighted and selfish to believe that just because I've gotten mine, I don't need to care about anyone or anything else.

You say you don't care what white society thinks about you or Asians, but you're also saying that from a position of relative privilege. How would you have liked to have grown up Japanese during the internment? That's an extreme case, and I know race relations are much improved today, but even today, not everyone lives in an area where race differences are accepted. It's not like people are given a choice of where to be born. Hell, even growing up in Los Angeles, I encountered the occasional "ching chong" comment. In the grand scheme of things, those incidents weren't a big deal, but I could've done without that sort of shit, and it'd certainly be nice if my future children don't have to deal with that growing up.

[peta9]

See the below article to see how racism, even the small subtle stuff can affect the health of Asians living in America.

http://www.modelminority.com/article1098.html

Good article. I've known that too. Since everything does affect you over time systemic abuse or certain treatment can take a toll and show adverse affects from self-esteem, even ability to concentrate and depression to health.

A lot of people have felt helpless growing up in western societies especially young people who were thrust into society that didn't accept them or mistreated them.

[epmd]

What the hell does your point about Jesus have to do with so-called online asian activism? Irrelevant.

I can agree that it's sometimes irritating when people go on and on and on, whining about oftentimes trivial matters on the internet. I mean, yeah, don't these people have anything better to do with their time? Go outside and get a life, right? I agree.

But you know what's more annoying? The people that go out of their way to incessantly bitch and moan about how annoying those whiners are. Homeless people are losers, too. So how much of a loser do you have to be to take it upon yourself to constantly pick on homeless people? Not quite the perfect analogy, but you get the point.

Anyway, back to the main topic.

I care what other people with whom I routinely interact think about me, whether they are white, black, brown, purple, etc. It's not because I crave their approval. Rather, if you want to succeed, you've got to make sure those around you--and particularly those in power--view you in a positive light. Living in America, it just so happens that most of those people are going to be white.

I like to think I've led a reasonably successful life so far. I'm happily married and am earning a decent living. My friends, most of whom are Asian, are also doing well for themselves. But I don't believe that just because I'm doing fine on an individual level, I needn't concern myself with overall mainstream views on Asians and Asian Americans. I think it's a little shortsighted and selfish to believe that just because I've gotten mine, I don't need to care about anyone or anything else.

You say you don't care what white society thinks about you or Asians, but you're also saying that from a position of relative privilege. How would you have liked to have grown up Japanese during the internment? That's an extreme case, and I know race relations are much improved today, but even today, not everyone lives in an area where race differences are accepted. It's not like people are given a choice of where to be born. Hell, even growing up in Los Angeles, I encountered the occasional "ching chong" comment. In the grand scheme of things, those incidents weren't a big deal, but I could've done without that sort of shit, and it'd certainly be nice if my future children don't have to deal with that growing up.


very very true my dude. if i was born in a different time or somewhere else i would be singing a different tune. but right now in 2007, i'm not about to think about myself as opresed or anything. as for whining about the whiners, well it's all about a bit of fun.. those dudes think they're so self rightcheos when you know they're jsut a bunch of pussies it's just fun to make fun of them LOL. keep rocking on my brother

[cloudzero]

^ when we whine its being a puzzie
when you whine its a "bit of fun"

to defend your own whining about whiners, wouldn't that make you a super PUZZIE

all jokes aside
for the record, activists whine and act, whiners just whine
you don't act my friend

edit: forgot to put PUZZIE between every other word and use caps, but oh well

[epmd]

^^^ cloud zero you are odd. i suspect drugs. i am putting you on ignore until you get off whatever you're on

[cloudzero]

oh no, please don't do that
i don't want a troll ignoring me

oh wait...

yea, the people you say are flaming you...is pretty much all the people that come on this board daily. By the way, your an AC, and not AA. the last thing AAs need is some hockey playing, maple syrup drinking, pine cone eating Canadian telling them its wrong to fight back

[epmd]

^^^^ LOL! it's like a girl on the rags. where's that damn ignore fuction??

[peta9]

^^^^ LOL! it's like a girl on the rags. where's that damn ignore fuction??


epmd, honestly your other thread was good about the positives that asians should focus on but you even asking why asians would consider what whites think of them shows your naiveity.

And the answers should have been obvious to you even before you posed the question as many have voiced the same reasons.

Cloud zero is not on drugs and calling others pussies because they complain is a stupid not only low blow. You don't notice that whites complain and every other race as well and it's necessary to voice problems. You have to notice things around you because they affect you even if you don't want it to and sticking your head in the sand or just ignoring it is not always the solution and it can even become downright dangerous in the worst case scenario. The jews in germany didn't know what hit them and what awaited them as the germans were brewing against them. That's an extreme example but still very valid of what racism and propaganda can do and how it affects your life and others. Just because you just care about your little space and everything seems fine for you doesn't mean it will always be that way or others have your same experience either. Life is not a cartoon, ball into hole and as simple as that dear.

[epmd]

^^^ well those are valid points but it is mostly the un-heroic/self defeating/comedic ways which angry online asian "activists" go about their business which makes me laugh and make fun of them. if you see my OP rant on my criticisms of them, i'm only criticizing their sissy ways not any of the actual politics involved. their anger and emotions when they flame back only proves my point LOL. and notice how these great online Asian activists don't have anything to contribute to my asian postivity thread or have anything positive to say about Asians at all. and when you do say something positive about Asians they go off on some more irrational nonesense about "asiaphillia"

[AngryABCGirl]

^^^ well those are valid points but it is mostly the un-heroic/self defeating/comedic ways which angry online asian "activists" go about their business which makes me laugh and make fun of them. if you see my OP rant on my criticisms of them, i'm only criticizing their sissy ways not any of the actual politics involved. their anger and emotions when they flame back only proves my point LOL. and notice how these great online Asian activists don't have anything to contribute to my asian postivity thread or have anything positive to say about Asians at all. and when you do say something positive about Asians they go off on some more irrational nonesense about "asiaphillia"

Has it occured to you we're secure enough not to have to write about Asian postivity and would rather discuss the things that affect us and make change?

[eos]

who said anything about asiaphilia? and i don't NEED a thread to tell me that being asian/chinese is awesome cuz i already know. idiots who aren't proud or happy with their asianness come on here to spew their vitriol and get their asses handed to them.

[Kristen]

It depends on the white person. I agree with Banana about the larger scale of things whites dominate this country. Sorry this is an old thread, but i am new.

[peta9]

I want people to pay attention to this post and notice the seething hatred underneath and notice the difference between whites and others in general, this is not even from stormfront. The reasons he cites isn't the real reason for his hatred and ego. It's the competition, they HATE it and are used to being in power. They think it's their godgiven right and very self-centered and judgemental toward others, they use this as justification to do what they want similar to the crusades back when. That mentality and nature is ingrained in them and people better be aware of thier ploys and tactics. They excuse thier mistakes of the past but not others, this is on purpose to gain power and try to rally others to attack or keep others down. I don't care what anyone says, white people are the most racist of any group on the planet and that is a fact. Some of you may know this but I think most don't, whites have the greatest superiority complex but you can't have one without an inferiority complex, that's the hidden side of the coin. For all their achievements, this is what is hidden and interaction with most of them you can glean it. They were not always on top as they like to say, we're talking about genes here and they are the most recessive and the memory of that is deep in the past and is still with them. If anything is an accident of nature, it's them. Believe it because it's true, that's why they are so hellbent on supremacy and control freaks.

Also, in case no one is aware of it as of now, white nationalist organizations are booming by the minute.

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Originally Posted by average_white_guy
It's time to sort China out - I mean they're going to be the ones that end up shagging the planet proper. Look at the drain on the earth's resources all those slitty-eyed little chineses are causing. fu-k 'em. fu-k 'em all.

Pollution - jeez - have you seen the $hit about the Olympics in '08? All our athletes should be in aclimatisation training - spending six hours a day inhaling exhaust fumes direct from a tractor or something to get them ready for it.

Toys - fu-king hell - the slitty-eyed little fu-king retards are poisoning our kids as well as their own. fu-kers.

Food - it's okay if the little greasy black-haired bastards kill themselves by eating noodles laced with dioxins but please keep that fu-king chimp $hit food over there will you?!

Metal - thanks to these chinese bastards going around the world buying up metal reserves the local crims in my town have started going around stealing road signs because of the price of aluminium going through the roof. Thank you China.

[Tao]

I want people to pay attention to this post and notice the seething hatred underneath and notice the difference between whites and others in general, this is not even from stormfront. The reasons he cites isn't the real reason for his hatred and ego. It's the competition, they HATE it and are used to being in power. They think it's their godgiven right and very self-centered and judgemental toward others, they use this as justification to do what they want similar to the crusades back when. That mentality and nature is ingrained in them and people better be aware of thier ploys and tactics. They excuse thier mistakes of the past but not others, this is on purpose to gain power and try to rally others to attack or keep others down. I don't care what anyone says, white people are the most racist of any group on the planet and that is a fact. Some of you may know this but I think most don't, whites have the greatest superiority complex but you can't have one without an inferiority complex, that's the hidden side of the coin. For all their achievements, this is what is hidden and interaction with most of them you can glean it. They were not always on top as they like to say, we're talking about genes here and they are the most recessive and the memory of that is deep in the past and is still with them. If anything is an accident of nature, it's them. Believe it because it's true, that's why they are so hellbent on supremacy and control freaks.

Also, in case no one is aware of it as of now, white nationalist organizations are booming by the minute.

what's your point? i'm not gonna get all worked up over some anonymous douche bag's racist rant on the internet....i have better things to do. obviously if this person said that in real life, and i was around to hear it, i'd set him straight, but saying we should care about what some loser hill billy says on the internet is ridiculous.

[peta9]

what's your point? i'm not gonna get all worked up over some anonymous douche bag's racist rant on the internet....i have better things to do. obviously if this person said that in real life, and i was around to hear it, i'd set him straight, but saying we should care about what some loser hill billy says on the internet is ridiculous.

Heh, hillbilly?? You are so sure about that. I've never been able to understand people's blindness. This type of sentiment is brewing and it's not just some people, his had more vitriol but many americans and whites don't want to see asia and china succeed. Need to be aware of that.

[eos]

did you just come out of a cave? if it's not us that they're jealous of, it's someone else. they need to realize we are on the rise and we won't stop. so they might as well lube up cuz it's gonna be painful.

[peta9]

did you just come out of a cave? if it's not us that they're jealous of, it's someone else. they need to realize we are on the rise and we won't stop. so they might as well lube up cuz it's gonna be painful.

And you ask if I came out of a cave?? If you know anything about their nature and history, the will do anything to gain power and keep it. The nice guy and moral phase is after they get what they want, when it starts slipping thier racist, supremacist tactics are easy to fall back on. Why do you think the white nationalist organizations are on the rise?? Which are basically mostly those who have supremacist views but try to keep it under wraps for the time being.

It's not just as simple as thinking you are on the rise and nothing can stop you, you better watch your back and know what they are up to while you're doing it.

[eos]

fine. RACE WAR then.

to arms, to arms!!!!! *rolls eyes*

[Tao]

And you ask if I came out of a cave?? If you know anything about their nature and history, the will do anything to gain power and keep it. The nice guy and moral phase is after they get what they want, when it starts slipping thier racist, supremacist tactics are easy to fall back on. Why do you think the white nationalist organizations are on the rise?? Which are basically mostly those who have supremacist views but try to keep it under wraps for the time being.

It's not just as simple as thinking you are on the rise and nothing can stop you, you better watch your back and know what they are up to while you're doing it.

do you hear yourself? "they will do anything"? what's with all the they's and generalizations? if you truly beleive that, then you're just like them

[tripostrophe]

Huh peta please provide sources for your claims.

But I will say that the average racist isn't your stereotypical down-south hillbilly. That kind of thinking is quite misleading.

[buttermilkwise]

It's not just as simple as thinking you are on the rise and nothing can stop you, you better watch your back and know what they are up to while you're doing it.

http://www.peta.org/

If there is a major confrontation with either China or North Korea, I'm pretty sure shit will hit the fan.

But until that happens, any group that promotes anti-semitism and Hitler has zero chance of gaining any legitimacy in the United States? Why? because the evil jews run this country!

[wetheril]

I used to care, when I was an insecure child growing up and feeling "different" from everybody else. I used to be bullied, because I was often the only Asian in class. When you're a kid, you want to know who you are, and the easiest way to figure that out is to find a group to fit into (and that's what media and other peers are for). Since we Asians obviously aren't white, you couldn't identify yourself as white. So when the only ideas of being Asian were these negative stereotypes perpetuated by white people, it was disturbing and very damaging to my self-confidence. After surviving those early difficult trials of growing up, and finding out just who I am, I really don't care anymore.

I think that it's important for a young person in their formative years to have a positive self-image, and part of having a positive self-image is finding acceptance in your peers. So I will say that yes, it does matter what white people think of us. However, once you do accept yourself for who you are and are secure in your own knowledge of identity, you really don't need to rely so much on what "other people think". What's important then, is what the people closest to you think--the people who really matter to you like friends, family, and significant other.

[Yeahman]

Of course I care about what my masters think about me.

[peta9]

^very funny, not.

Whetheril, thoughtful post. You're right, when you are younger the experiences have more weight because it can mislead you since you are so impressionable and inexperienced. Also, you tend to seek approval by whoever is around you rather than honestly ask yourself if you like them because you don't know who you are yet or have a developed identity.

I think back to when I was younger and I was always trying to get approval from peers or anyone without any sense of who they really were and never asked myself if I liked them, which is a vulnerable psyche. When I look back I realize I wouldn't even like the majority of those people or spend time with them now because I know what I like and don't, interests, what my values are and are not, tastes etc and I don't just go along with whatever and I question mainstream values. It's like snapping out of an unrealistic fog and realizing you are a person who has a right to reject another as much as they do you and you have standards too.

[cloudzero]

^very funny, not.

ye110man is a sarcastic guy, don't get him wrong

[buttermilkwise]

I think that it's important for a young person in their formative years to have a positive self-image, and part of having a positive self-image is finding acceptance in your peers. So I will say that yes, it does matter what white people think of us. However, once you do accept yourself for who you are and are secure in your own knowledge of identity, you really don't need to rely so much on what "other people think". What's important then, is what the people closest to you think--the people who really matter to you like friends, family, and significant other.

Good post, although might I add the next step is not so much extending yourself to people that matter the most, but letting go of the dualism at the root of the conflict (us vs them) and realizing that all people do matter including the knuckleheads despite their ignorance.

[yoMAMA]

of course i care.

this is a white majority country, you can't go anywhere without running into white people.

although i've heard that in 50 years or so this will be a brown majority nation. but in the long run we are all dead...so who cares.

[epmd]

north america is white majority but it isn't necessarily white dominated. sure the white people have the most power in govt but those whites are the extreme minority of all the whites. as of how whites percieve us, i repeat i don't care. but if you say that we have to care because they have some power, i can concede we do, but it's more like acting along than actually caring. i can act like i care without caring. a lot of asians with low self esteem hate how they percieve whites as looking down on asians, like they percieve whites "fetishize" asian women or white women dislike asian men for whatever reason. well to this, i really don't care. my life isn't dictated by the opinions of white people. i can only assume that asians who think this way deep in their hearts just want to be white. and for the asians who constantly look to whites for affirmation or a standard, whites in korea and japan don't seem to care what the locals think of them. and they don't really have it as good over there, they can't vote or own property and are regulated to english teaching jobs and are constantly bothered with western stereotypes asians have (whites eat bread 24/7, they love to fuck anything that moves, they're very emotional, they have a whole lot of hair). my perception is that the whites there consider it annoying rather than caring what the locals think of them. see there you go, even a white person can stop caring, you can too

[peta9]

north america is white majority but it isn't necessarily white dominated. sure the white people have the most power in govt but those whites are the extreme minority of all the whites. as of how whites percieve us, i repeat i don't care. but if you say that we have to care because they have some power, i can concede we do, but it's more like acting along than actually caring. i can act like i care without caring. a lot of asians with low self esteem hate how they percieve whites as looking down on asians, like they percieve whites "fetishize" asian women or white women dislike asian men for whatever reason. well to this, i really don't care. my life isn't dictated by the opinions of white people. i can only assume that asians who think this way deep in their hearts just want to be white. and for the asians who constantly look to whites for affirmation or a standard, whites in korea and japan don't seem to care what the locals think of them. and they don't really have it as good over there, they can't vote or own property and are regulated to english teaching jobs and are constantly bothered with western stereotypes asians have (whites eat bread 24/7, they love to fuck anything that moves, they're very emotional, they have a whole lot of hair). my perception is that the whites there consider it annoying rather than caring what the locals think of them. see there you go, even a white person can stop caring, you can too

But they don't perceive them as a threat and feel they are above them and big brother has control of them anyways. Whether this is totally true or not, they perceive much of the world that way.

[unemployable]

I don't always care what they think. But they can get on my nerves sometimes, and make me want to throw down.

[TB4000]

^I think that's mexican people.

[peta9]

I love it too, it's so classic. Notice the problem, "envy" is more a concern of them than anyone else. The problem is they are not happy unless they can get someone to envy them or at least think they do. This mindframe is actually a bit different than other cultures, I know because we don't have the exact same approach to life. Does anyone believe they want separation and they would be happy with being good people and minding their business? I highly doubt it and not for long.

How can a truly superior race be that blind. Since when have they been honorable? They are professional and better theives that's all. The more I know about them, the less I actually respect them.

“ You fight for your country, regardless if it is all pointless, regardless if your country today does not resemble the country it once was, you fight on any way. And if she falls, she falls. At least you will know in your hearts that you did the right thing, that you did what your ancestors would have done. Then you get up, dust yourselves off and you carry on fighting and you know what?

You'll win.

And if you lose, which you won't, then at least you lost with honour, dignity, strength and with pride. The enemy could only look at you with envy in their hearts because they know they will never posses those admirable traits of the Aryan race.

[peta9]

Stuff like this makes me feel hatred for white people. They are always looking at the negative of other cultures and dismissing the positives that they have, "filth" , "cesspit". And so many of THEIR people are the pedophiles and criminals and assholes too. I KNOW because I GREW UP WITH THEM IN THE HOUSE AND OUTSIDE. I FUCKING hate them because they are SO condescending and self-righteous toward others. There is tremendous beauty in asian cultures and countries too.

So basically you live in an area almost like mine here I can leave my car unlocked with the keys in it overnight and not worry about it being gone when I wake up,the good thing about this is you feel safe the bad thing is you can be very judgmental about people who are racially aware I know I was when I was a kid in school but that changed when I joined the Army and saw what the groids and the metizos are really like then I was stationed in Korea and I traveled Japan,China,Philippines,Indonesia looking for the "wonders of the Asian lifestyle" know what I saw? rampant pedophila which is not just tolerated but accepted in asian lifestyle. You want to talk about the poor starving africans? you should see N.Korea in a "good" year. Filth? Cesspit? ah we must be in China. As others have said,before you judge us you should go out and live in the world find out how harsh life can be for a naive person such as yourself and then decide who is right or wrong.

[eos]

whoa....cut down on the rageahol.

[AngryABCGirl]

whoa....cut down on the rageahol.

yeah there's too much haterade here.

[cloudzero]

Stuff like this makes me feel hatred for white people. They are always looking at the negative of other cultures and dismissing the positives that they have, "filth" , "cesspit". And so many of THEIR people are the pedophiles and criminals and assholes too. I KNOW because I GREW UP WITH THEM IN THE HOUSE AND OUTSIDE. I FUCKING hate them because they are SO condescending and self-righteous toward others. There is tremendous beauty in asian cultures and countries too.

why don't you and buttermilkwise sit down and have a nice cup of tea?

[buttermilkwise]

why don't you and buttermilkwise sit down and have a nice cup of tea?


lol don't you realize who Peta9 really is? The dude I've been talking to this entire time is actually

Kenneth Eng.

[Adaon]

And you ask if I came out of a cave?? If you know anything about their nature and history, the will do anything to gain power and keep it. The nice guy and moral phase is after they get what they want, when it starts slipping thier racist, supremacist tactics are easy to fall back on. Why do you think the white nationalist organizations are on the rise?? Which are basically mostly those who have supremacist views but try to keep it under wraps for the time being.

It's not just as simple as thinking you are on the rise and nothing can stop you, you better watch your back and know what they are up to while you're doing it.

TO quote a movie....
*cough* ahem
"Durkah durkah, jihad jihad!!"

Your blanket statements are so offbase, that you might as well go out and kill the next caucasian person you see.

[eos]

maybe that's what he's doing cuz he hasn't been on lately.

[Dios]

Why should you care what they think? I see how white people look at me, but I don't care about it anymore. Of course they're not going to treat you like one of them, cause you're not. I'm not saying they'll treat you bad, but you won't be treated the same.
People, we are a minority in America. Minority. Be strong, represent your race and your culture and your self in the best light possible.
Don't act like a pussy. Don't look like a pussy. Don't talk or think like a pussy.
Also, don't hate white people, black people, or any other people for that matter. It's just race - if you are so affected by it, does it mean that the only identity you have is something you were born with? That since being born and now, you have nothing else that's "YOU" but your eyes, your skin, your color?
Don't look like somebody to be messed with, and nobody will mess with you.

[tint]

Well, I've been noticing that whenever I criticize the online asian "activists," aside from the very angry and emotionally charged flames I get from them, it always seems to come down the topic of White people and how White people think about us or is racist against us. I voice an opinion that the media shouldn't emasculate you, and they respond that White people are going to think we're emasculated because of the media. I say you should stand on your own two instead of playing the race card all the time, they respond that White people think all Asians are the same. They're worried to death that White people think Asians have small things. And they're paranoid about Asian people talking bad about other Asians to White people.. and making White people think badly of Asians. They even go so far as to accuse ME of worrying that I am concerned that the online asian "activists" are going to me look bad.... to White people of course.

Here's my very very honest attempt at understanding this phenomenon. Do YOU, as an Asian person, care what White people think about you? Why?

Me? I don't care what they think about me. I mean, I have nothing against White people. They are there, but they are no special than anyone else.

Please educate me.. Do you care? Why?

You bring up racist issues that no one should not care or tolerate. You set up a scenerio and ask the wrong question. Do you care to be abused? You make caring to right the wrong of racism with the kind of opinion of clothing or hairstyle as the same thing.

[Chooky]

I think that this posts raises some very interesting questions about the mentality of Asians. I think that every culture has an element of being concerned about the perceptions of others, what's unique about this quality in Asian culture is that a sometimes hostile (western) media selects certain peculiarities about our cultures and exploits them in some negative way. The problem is that there is not a counter-balance of positive images or stereotypes being offered about Asians.

You are also correct that Asians "care too much" about what's being said or written about them. We cannot control or predict what people will think about us so we have to focus on what we know about ourselves and not allow ourselves (or eachother) to be conditioned into believing or focusing on this negaive portrayals. Otherwise, how else can we grow as a community or individuals? I call it having a Colonized Mind, when I see Asians allowing themselves to be marginalized or kept back because of what they think someone will or has said, or thought about them. Whilst we need to be aware and concerned about negative stereotypes we must not be imrisoned or controlled by them.

On a personal note, I grew up around white people and experienced a fair degree of ignorance from them. If I had allowed myself to be too invested in what they thought of me I would probably be dead by now.

[j&j2]

Big difference in caring what individual whites think about you and what the society (dominated by whites) think about Asians in general - since this can affect getting into a particular school, getting a promotion at work, etc. or treatment by the police.

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/26717

A routine stop for an open container violation escalated into a confrontation between police and students early Friday morning.

According to witnesses, Garam Sohn, SEAS ’10, was holding an open beer can when he was stopped by police on W. 114th Street near Broadway. When asked for identification, Sohn said he did not have any. Ian Crone, CC ’10, who witnessed the incident, said that the police handcuffed Sohn, threw him to the ground, and put him into the back of a police car.

Crone said that Sohn had been “noticeably upset,” but had not physically resisted the police in any way. “He wasn’t attacking the officers or [doing] anything apparently violent against them,” Crone said.

Another observer—George Cen, SEAS ’08,—said that while the police were questioning Sohn, two white students walked by carrying 40s. The officers instructed the students to cover their drinks with brown paper bags, but did not detain them.

As the incident progressed, a crowd gathered and the officers called for backup, witnesses said. Three more police cars arrived. According to Crone, one of the officers said to the crowd—composed mostly of Asian students—“Have you had too much sake tonight?”

Cen said that when one student asked a police officer why Sohn was being detained, the officer responded, “Do you understand English?”

“His friends were sort of trying to intercede on his behalf,” Crone said. “They were told rather forcefully to step back.”

Cen said that when he and other students asked for the badge number of the officer who had made the racially charged comments, she threatened them with arrest.

Sohn said that he was brought to a precinct and held in a cell for two hours. “If I asked anything, they just told me to shut up. I was trying to ask them what would happen to me, and an officer said verbatim, ‘You’re being a dick,’”

Sohn was released but charged with four misdemeanors: having an open container of alcohol, obstructing pedestrian traffic, refusing to comply to an order for dispersal, and creating a hazardous environment.

“If this was a case of racial bias, the Asian American Alliance truly condemns the incident,” said AAA spokesman David Zhou, CC ’10.

The NYPD did not respond to a request for comment by press time.

[TB4000]

Hmmmm. That sake comment was just the icing on the cake.

[Chooky]

I just don't think that you can worry about changing other people. When their attitudes turn into disrimination that's when we should show concern and should speak out.
The article on the police harrassment was disturbing. It seems as though I'm hearing alot more about these type of incidences between the police and our community. Was it specified if the policemen involved were all white?