Personal experiences with hate

[ru a banana?]

I am just bringing this up, not as a thing to stir up anti-american sentiment or disillusionment, but to see about other's personal experiences. Have you personally experienced hate crime as an asian in america? How was it dealt with/make you feel?

One time for me, we were one of the only asian or for that matter non-white families in the neighborhood. There were some very racist nazistic kids down the street who started calling "ching-chong" and other racist names, and came after us with axes and knives. My mother who is caucasian called the police, and the police asked "Are there any asians involved in this incident?" My mother said, "Yes, MINE, who they are trying to assault." She was so pissed at the policeman who answered, she said "I see you won't be much help" and hung up. WTF. When it is authority figures doing these things, it adds an extra element of scary/frustration. In some ways that's why now I laugh and get great satisfaction that the asians in my school district are setting the curb for academics leading in virtually every area and group. Take that! :smile:

[eos]

the neighborhood i used to live in was a hodgepodge of chinese, hispanics, and whites all living together. my house got broken into twice, every single fucking halloween, racist motherfuckers would throw rotten eggs at our house or car if we were driving, we got pelted with snowballs in the winter, etc. however, the perpetrators were mostly from the outlying areas around us, living in the poor white trash projects. it was either the kids or drunken parents, one of which my dad tried to help once but got mugged. i was still young but i understood what was going on. i got mad and yelled at my dad to stop helping these fucking assholes.

[yoMAMA]

once in high school, I didn't take the school bus and walked home.

on my way home, some guy (or girl) in a pick up threw water at me ( not sure if it was race related, probably was).

and, sometimes walking on the streets, assholes in whitetrash cars yelling at me.

[ru a banana?]

which state, if you dont mind me asking?

[eos]

i live in chicago, and as everybody LOVES to say it, we are the most racist, segregated city. i don't believe it, but hey, i just live here, what do i know?

[yoMAMA]

which state, if you dont mind me asking?

Minnesota, a suburb in the twin cities area.

[kchen]

There's not much hate crimes against AAs here to begin with since I live in a diverse area, so...

[Adaon]

There's not much hate crimes against AAs here to begin with since I live in a diverse area, so...

Ooooooooooooooohhh, I would SO like to know which area of the Bay Area of California you live in.

Because I've lived in San Francisco for all 25 years of my life, and if someone were to tell ME that hate crimes weren't rampant, here, I'd like them to say so in Asianweek for me.

There are more to hate crimes than the physical, bodily harm aspect, but the emotional, psychological aspect, which is much harder to track.

[LaiSteve66]

Asians pack heat here so no, people don't mess with us.

[kchen]

Ooooooooooooooohhh, I would SO like to know which area of the Bay Area of California you live in.

Yeah, I definitely don't live in San Francisco. I can see where you're coming from, but I don't live close to the city. Where I live, Asians take up almost half the place. In some areas, it goes up to 70%.

[pikachupacabra]

Almost had a fight with some fucking east-coast rugby-looking white fuckers playing basketball this weekend. They kept saying shit like "aiyaaaa!" and "wow you guys can all shoot the three, i'm not surprised, you're all chinese" and shit like that. Took a hard foul in the back, I almost elbowed him right back in the fucking jaw.

[deez nuts]

Almost had a fight with some fucking east-coast rugby-looking white fuckers playing basketball this weekend. They kept saying shit like "aiyaaaa!" and "wow you guys can all shoot the three, i'm not surprised, you're all chinese" and shit like that. Took a hard foul in the back, I almost elbowed him right back in the fucking jaw.

dude, that's not hate. that's just trash talking. i've said a lot worse on the court. i once made a black kid go complain to his coach and then his coach complained to my coach about what i said to him during a divisonal game my junior year in high school. i would repeat what i said to him. but, banginlong and tripostrophe might break up with me and i'd lose out on hot mangina 3-way action.

[pikachupacabra]

Yeah it was just trash talking and I've calmed down quite a bit. But it was also a 4v3 game (I still don't know why we said ok to playing 4v3) and trash talking dudes when they're down a man is just poor taste

[deez nuts]

and trash talking dudes when they're down a man is just poor taste

west coast pick up games seem so "polite!"

HIPPIES!

[tripostrophe]

dude, that's not hate. that's just trash talking. i've said a lot worse on the court. i once made a black kid go complain to his coach and then his coach complained to my coach about what i said to him during a divisonal game my junior year in high school. i would repeat what i said to him. but, banginlong and tripostrophe might break up with me and i'd lose out on hot mangina 3-way action.

i was not aware that we were together in the first place :mad: ugh who uses "mangina"??

[pikachupacabra]

yeah you have to be careful, if you piss too many people off someone's gonna get their feelings hurt, and then they're going to pull their piece and then it's not hugs and kisses anymore

[deez nuts]

yeah you have to be careful, if you piss too many people off someone's gonna get their feelings hurt, and then they're going to pull their piece and then it's not hugs and kisses anymore

i know. you pull out your "piece" when you get angry at me and we make up.

[CBC guy]

No one targets Asians here because there are too many hardcore Asian triad types who would bust any cracker's ass with any means possible, utilizing Sun Zi's Art of War. :biggrin:

The following story takes place during a heated hockey game. Needless to say, hockey is a sport where epithets and insults fly fast and furious in the heat of the battle, but this one takes the cake. This story might be upsetting to some as it involves some kind of physical violence but you might be suprised at the perpetrator.

When my friends' (all Asian) hockey team was playing this other team of (caucasians) and totally owning their ass 5-1, one of the white boys said something about us "fucking dog-eating ching-chongs" so on the very next shift one of my friends sneaked behind that racist bastard and cross-checked him from behind into the ice. Then while he laid down my friend cross-checked him again and again in the back until both teams came over and started shoving each other. It was awesome. "How do you like that, fucking white boy" my friend said as he lay on the ice in pain. "How do you like that? Whitey cracker assfucking bitch." My friend laughed as he skated to the penalty box. I heard the entire conversation and laughed pretty hard at that one. (BTW my friends' team scored 3 more goals to make the final score a satisfying 8-1, making it all the better that we humiliated them at their own game. (hockey)

P.S. I'm not racist towards caucasians or anything, its only if they talk shit like that then we'll fight back. I know violence in hockey is wrong but rarely did it ever feel so.... satisfying. :wink:

[pikachupacabra]

i know. you pull out your "piece" when you get angry at me and we make up.



let's play fiddlesticks!

[tripostrophe]

No one targets Asians here because there are too many hardcore Asian triad types who would bust any cracker's ass with any means possible, utilizing Sun Zi's Art of War. :biggrin:

The following story takes place during a heated hockey game. Needless to say, hockey is a sport where epithets and insults fly fast and furious in the heat of the battle, but this one takes the cake. This story might be upsetting to some as it involves some kind of physical violence but you might be suprised at the perpetrator.

When my friends' (all Asian) hockey team was playing this other team of (caucasians) and totally owning their ass 5-1, one of the white boys said something about us "fucking dog-eating ching-chongs" so on the very next shift one of my friends sneaked behind that racist bastard and cross-checked him from behind into the ice. Then while he laid down my friend cross-checked him again and again in the back until both teams came over and started shoving each other. It was awesome. "How do you like that, fucking white boy" my friend said as he lay on the ice in pain. "How do you like that? Whitey cracker assfucking bitch." My friend laughed as he skated to the penalty box. I heard the entire conversation and laughed pretty hard at that one. (BTW my friends' team scored 3 more goals to make the final score a satisfying 8-1, making it all the better that we humiliated them at their own game. (hockey)

P.S. I'm not racist towards caucasians or anything, its only if they talk shit like that then we'll fight back. I know violence in hockey is wrong but rarely did it ever feel so.... satisfying. :wink:

Wait -- violence in hockey is wrong? I thought it was all part of the game! [haha, I remember being over at a friend's house and watching them play a 90's-era wayne gretzky game -- it seemed pretty easy to make a fight happen.]

[Deadpool]

No one targets Asians here because there are too many hardcore Asian triad types who would bust any cracker's ass with any means possible, utilizing Sun Zi's Art of War. :biggrin:



You'd have to be pretty dumb to act overtly rascist against Asians here.
Leave the rascism against Asians to other Asians. :biggrin:

[CBC guy]

You'd have to be pretty dumb to act overtly rascist against Asians here.
Leave the rascism against Asians to other Asians. :biggrin:

Damn Straight :wink:

[USCTrojanzNo1]

Here's one:

one time, I was apparently driving 56 MPH on a 45 MPH zone. A black police officer then drove up and ordered me to stop. He asked for my license and registration (the usual stuff). Then the black cop referred to me as an oriental...TWICE! And while he was explaining that I was driving 56 MPH in a 45 MPH zone, he then proceeded to go off on some kinda rant. I'm not too sure if it's an anti-Asian rant or maybe just a rant against rich snobs, but I was dressed up because I had an important meeting that day and the black cop basically said: "You come into our country with your fancy degrees and your fancy suits, and you think you above the law!" I acknowledged my mistake and said that I should've paid attention and that I admit I was rushing a bit. The cop accused me of being a trust fund baby (I'm serious!) and that he said, "I hear that all the time from you orientals, you didn't pay attention" (blah, blah, blah), and he ended the conversation by saying something along the lines of "I understand that English probably isn't your first language, but you should try and make an effort to improve your reading comprehension." he went on to say that being in a rush is no excuse, etc.

I just sucked it up and pay the $80 ticket. The black cop was a bit of a prick though and this is the first time in some ten years where I experienced some palpable form of racial discrimination. I was insulted b/c I was born in this country and English is my primary language and for him to think that English isn't my first language b/c I'm Asian is nauseating. He was not really overt about any racial inclinations (he never called me Chinaman or anything like that), but it's obvious that this was this working class black person who wanted to stick it to the snooty rich "Oriental," and he was in a position to do that as a cop.

[CBC guy]

Here's one:

one time, I was apparently driving 56 MPH on a 45 MPH zone. A black police officer then drove up and ordered me to stop. He asked for my license and registration (the usual stuff). Then the black cop referred to me as an oriental...TWICE! And while he was explaining that I was driving 56 MPH in a 45 MPH zone, he then proceeded to go off on some kinda rant. I'm not too sure if it's an anti-Asian rant or maybe just a rant against rich snobs, but I was dressed up because I had an important meeting that day and the black cop basically said: "You come into our country with your fancy degrees and your fancy suits, and you think you above the law!" I acknowledged my mistake and said that I should've paid attention and that I admit I was rushing a bit. The cop accused me of being a trust fund baby (I'm serious!) and that he said, "I hear that all the time from you orientals, you didn't pay attention" (blah, blah, blah), and he ended the conversation by saying something along the lines of "I understand that English probably isn't your first language, but you should try and make an effort to improve your reading comprehension." he went on to say that being in a rush is no excuse, etc.

I just sucked it up and pay the $80 ticket. The black cop was a bit of a prick though and this is the first time in some ten years where I experienced some palpable form of racial discrimination. he was not really overt about it (he never called me Chinaman or anything like that), but it's obvious that this was this working class black person who wanted to stick it to the snooty rich "Oriental," and he was in a position to do that as a cop.


Ah, the cops. Most of our Canadian cops are nice guys but there is a funny story in this one involving my cousin from HK who took Grade 12 in Vancouver and stayed at our house. (BTW here's some background info: my cousin in HK went to an International school, so he speaks good English and stuff, not a typical FOB)

On a certain day after Provincials my cousin along with his friends got just a bit drunk and decided to dig a hole in the soccer field of their high school at 3AM with a shovel. Unfortunately for them they
hit a water main (somehow) and water splattered everywhere, causing a big ruckus. As a matter of course the cops came. My cousins' friends ran off and the police didn't bother to catch them. They held onto my cousin and put him in the back of the police car. When my cousin told them that he was an exchange student, the cop gave him a weary look and said "maybe we're going to have to call your parents and you'll have to go back to Hong Kong." Then immediately afterward the cop said "just kidding."

I don't know what to make of that story. My cousin thought there was a TINY little bit of discrimination involved, but there was no overt hostility either, just a world-weary policeman and a drunk student from overseas.

I always get a good chuckle with that story. :biggrin:

[tripostrophe]

Here's one:

one time, I was apparently driving 56 MPH on a 45 MPH zone. A black police officer then drove up and ordered me to stop. He asked for my license and registration (the usual stuff). Then the black cop referred to me as an oriental...TWICE! And while he was explaining that I was driving 56 MPH in a 45 MPH zone, he then proceeded to go off on some kinda rant. I'm not too sure if it's an anti-Asian rant or maybe just a rant against rich snobs, but I was dressed up because I had an important meeting that day and the black cop basically said: "You come into our country with your fancy degrees and your fancy suits, and you think you above the law!" I acknowledged my mistake and said that I should've paid attention and that I admit I was rushing a bit. The cop accused me of being a trust fund baby (I'm serious!) and that he said, "I hear that all the time from you orientals, you didn't pay attention" (blah, blah, blah), and he ended the conversation by saying something along the lines of "I understand that English probably isn't your first language, but you should try and make an effort to improve your reading comprehension." he went on to say that being in a rush is no excuse, etc.

I just sucked it up and pay the $80 ticket. The black cop was a bit of a prick though and this is the first time in some ten years where I experienced some palpable form of racial discrimination. I was insulted b/c I was born in this country and English is my primary language and for him to think that English isn't my first language b/c I'm Asian is nauseating. He was not really overt about any racial inclinations (he never called me Chinaman or anything like that), but it's obvious that this was this working class black person who wanted to stick it to the snooty rich "Oriental," and he was in a position to do that as a cop.

Er! I see racist all over that...I dunno, I don't think racism is limited to explicit slurs. The stuff he was saying was all offensive stereotypes and broad sweeping generalizations that he made without knowing you yeah? Diff between stereotyping and racism, but still.

[Deadpool]

Ah, the cops. Most of our Canadian cops are nice guys but there is a funny story in this one involving my cousin from HK who took Grade 12 in Vancouver and stayed at our house. (BTW here's some background info: my cousin in HK went to an International school, so he speaks good English and stuff, not a typical FOB)

On a certain day after Provincials my cousin along with his friends got just a bit drunk and decided to dig a hole in the soccer field of their high school at 3AM with a shovel. Unfortunately for them they
hit a water main (somehow) and water splattered everywhere, causing a big ruckus. As a matter of course the cops came. My cousins' friends ran off and the police didn't bother to catch them. They held onto my cousin and put him in the back of the police car. When my cousin told them that he was an exchange student, the cop gave him a weary look and said "maybe we're going to have to call your parents and you'll have to go back to Hong Kong." Then immediately afterward the cop said "just kidding."

I don't know what to make of that story. My cousin thought there was a TINY little bit of discrimination involved, but there was no overt hostility either, just a world-weary policeman and a drunk student from overseas.

I always get a good chuckle with that story. :biggrin:

Theres an RCMP officer around that looks exactly like Ramathorn from Super Troopers. And yes he does fuck with people he stops. :eek:

[CBC guy]

Theres an RCMP officer around that looks exactly like Ramathorn from Super Troopers. And yes he does fuck with people he stops. :eek:

Do you know which part of Vancouver he usually shows up in? I'll know to avoid that area whenever possible :wink:

[Paradox]

I used to get fucked with back when I was young and living in the south which was usually just name calling or mocking. If some other kid started some shit with me i'd be sure to swipe his things or pour toilet water in his gym locker. It was pure malicious vandalism and they could never figure out why their stuff would get fucked up everyday:wink: :cool: Sometimes it was the only way to get back at them because I was literally the only asian kid and I know for sure noone would stand up for me then. That was only as a kid though and when I went to high school in California noone ever did any of that.

I do remember that a few adults were total assholes to me as well. I'm certain one of my 5th grade teachers was racist. She was one of those middle aged white women who taught elementary school. She would treat the white kids in the class decent but always talked to me in a condescending almost disgusted way. Plus she would blame me for things or find situations to put me down. I'm sure if something like that happened now in elementary school I could have gotten my parents to sue her ass and I would be happily retired. Oh well, it doesn't matter but that's just an example of the south.

Another incident.. I was 11 and my cousin (who was like 15) were riding bikes to the park. Some college frat looking assholes drove by yelled "chink" and threw something at us. It missed us of course but still..grown men throwing shit at kids riding bikes. :rolleyes: