Man-ners

[ru a banana?]

Is it important anymore that a guy opens your door, helps the old lady cross the street, and does the subtle yet thoughtful man-nerly things?

Personally, I'm a little old fashioned, I don't think they have to go around and do the car door, but, shit if they don't open doors for ladies, they need to 1)learn or 2)find a doormat to sleep with.

Due I believe in part to the radical side of the feminist movement, and in part to the high-paced urban lifestyle, I see both men and women who no longer participate in some of the more gentile customs and manners that I think should not be forgotten or taken for granted.

Is it outdated for men to open doors for ladies?
(understanding it is more european/westerly places that have those customs?Unsure about other places)?
Do they feel they are not thanked or appreciated enough maybe?
What do you feel about a guy who doesn't do this, and even swings in the other dir. and lets one go in a ladies face? :frown:

[eos]

guys who let the door slam on anyone's face are assholes. same goes for girls...total bitches.

i've heard this talked about a lot, that if women expect guys to still open car doors, pay for stuff, etc., then they should get back in the kitchen and stay there. the idea is that we wanted equality, and that's what we get. no more "excuse me" after burping or farting, holding doors open, opening car doors, "ladies first", etc.

however, i've found that older men have kept this intact. they remember when it was polite to let ladies enter first, stood up when a lady left the table, took off their hats indoors, and never emitted a loud noise in front of a lady.

notice i use the word "lady". this is because the females are NOT without fault either. we dress in whorish clothes that leave nothing to the imagination, flash our parts for plastic beads and/or 15-minutes of shame, i mean fame, swear like sailors and drink like it's going out of style. is this what liberation means to us?

as for myself, i always let people in first, open car doors for elderly people, say thank you when people do the same for me, and say excuse me after i burp (or fart.....hey, i'm not a robot).

one thing that does bug me though is that my stupid bf only unlocks my side of the door when he's already inside. wtf is that about? all he has to do is press the button on his key twice and the doors unlock. this is the same concept with my car and he usually does it when he drives mine, and yet, when it's his car??? durrrrrrr......=T

[Adaon]

guys who let the door slam on anyone's face are assholes. same goes for girls...total bitches.

i've heard this talked about a lot, that if women expect guys to still open car doors, pay for stuff, etc., then they should get back in the kitchen and stay there. the idea is that we wanted equality, and that's what we get. no more "excuse me" after burping or farting, holding doors open, opening car doors, "ladies first", etc.

however, i've found that older men have kept this intact. they remember when it was polite to let ladies enter first, stood up when a lady left the table, took off their hats indoors, and never emitted a loud noise in front of a lady.

notice i use the word "lady". this is because the females are NOT without fault either. we dress in whorish clothes that leave nothing to the imagination, flash our parts for plastic beads and/or 15-minutes of shame, i mean fame, swear like sailors and drink like it's going out of style. is this what liberation means to us?

as for myself, i always let people in first, open car doors for elderly people, say thank you when people do the same for me, and say excuse me after i burp (or fart.....hey, i'm not a robot).

one thing that does bug me though is that my stupid bf only unlocks my side of the door when he's already inside. wtf is that about? all he has to do is press the button on his key twice and the doors unlock. this is the same concept with my car and he usually does it when he drives mine, and yet, when it's his car??? durrrrrrr......=T

Wow. well vented. Totally agree. Would have propped, if I could have.

[eos]

eerie.....today when my bf picked me up, he unlocked the door TWICE, BEFORE i had to knock on the window to get his attention, AND he held the door open for me. i know he doesn't read yw either, so wtf is going on????? oh AND he let me order first at the restaurant. i'm confused...and a wee bit scared. *scratches head*

[mrazntre]

maybe he upgraded you to #1 wife?

[ru a banana?]

good karma is going his way for that...

I can be a lady, but I swear as well, so what, if guys don't open the door for me like a bunch of, I'm gonna call them a bunch a girls. (o:

Sometimes, I say "Ladies first" to them if they are rude about it...

[Adaon]

eerie.....today when my bf picked me up, he unlocked the door TWICE, BEFORE i had to knock on the window to get his attention, AND he held the door open for me. i know he doesn't read yw either, so wtf is going on????? oh AND he let me order first at the restaurant. i'm confused...and a wee bit scared. *scratches head*

Hahah, maybe his ears were burning, and he knew he felt bad about stuff. Heh.

[AdornA]

I think that all this are outdated now but i feel good and as if someone cares for me when he does these things for me.

[CBC guy]

I'm a guy, I usually do it, (open doors and stuff for girls) but while the older ladies tend to be more thankful the younger set just walk right by you as if you don't exist, and that kinda irks me a little bit. Also, this is an European/western thing, true, but I still think it is good civilized behavior, and even when I'm in China or Hong Kong I still open doors (or hold doors open) for people because I think its the right thing to do. Nonetheless in HK they pretty much ignore you as they walk past so that's definitely not encouraging. Since everyone who's under 30 doesn't seem to give a shit about these kind of manners I wonder if I should just stop and laugh at a girl when the screen door hits her in the face. I mean, show some appreciation girls.

As for Asian manners, there is this thing with pouring tea for your elders, I kinda have to force myself to do it as it really isn't natural for Canadian-raised me to remember all these rules. I also try to remember to bite my tongue and not be so blunt when I'm in China.

Other than all that, I'm an insensitive slob. :biggrin:

[Banana]

At a dinner party a few weeks back, I stood up when a girl got up to go to the restroom and everyone stared at me like I had 3 heads.

[Tao]

At a dinner party a few weeks back, I stood up when a girl got up to go to the restroom and everyone stared at me like I had 3 heads.

lol, you should've took off your white gloves, slap the guys' faces, and challenged them to a duel like a true gentleman would.

[eos]

At a dinner party a few weeks back, I stood up when a girl got up to go to the restroom and everyone stared at me like I had 3 heads.

ohhh that's so sweet. i'm talking about the standing up, not the 3 heads thing, btw.

[deez nuts]

At a dinner party a few weeks back, I stood up when a girl got up to go to the restroom and everyone stared at me like I had 3 heads.

did you then smack her on the ass as she was walking away and tell her, "don't forget to wipe when your done and to wash your hands?"

[musicloops]

If I'm before them I keep the door open for them no matter their age or gender. I'm pretty much well-mannered in my perspective and my elders think so too because I don't fart in public nor do I burp really obnoxiously loud, but if I have to I will and I will say excuse me. I STILL say bless you (a lot of people don't now) when people sneeze. I keep my elbows off the dinner table, I sit with my legs closed. I'm sorry I'm just a very well mannered girl if I was otherwise I'd hate myself. I prefer classy over trashy and dumb.

[kasia]

i still kinda expect it - and the guys that i know - my brother, dad, guy friends, etc., are still very much gentleman. they'll open doors routinely, carry any bags that i may have, etc. it's nice, and i do notice when these things aren't done just because most of the guys around me are so well-mannered. obviously, it isn't necessary that a guy do these things, but i don't see how, if a guy acts in such a way, it would make a woman more of a doormat or less assertive. it's a fact that men are generally stronger - and these small acts don't go unappreciated.

[kakashiLAU]

Is it preferable to shake hands with a girl u just met? Or would just a smile and a wave of a hand be good enough?

[dej2]

smile and tip your hat or give a polite nod. When just introduced I wouldn't extend a hand unless she extends her's first.