Best City For Asian-Americans? [Archive]

maldito

11-29-2002, 07:19 PM

True, there are going to be rude people no matter where you go. But I know that LA and SF is better compared to other places in hickville, USA where there are NO asians.

Honolulu to me is a mecca for Asians! Lot of new Asians there I noticed on my recent trips. Made me feel out of place in my own home since some could not understand Pidgin let alone standard English. :lol:

While all the other Asians born & raised there for generation are very...Hawaiianized.

Commando_turned_MD

11-29-2002, 07:19 PM

I like LA :D ...............................Very Diverse.......Everything is within driving distance...IF you want to go skiing, Big Bear is around the corner.....IF you want to go surfing, beach is approx. 30 minutes away........Night life is great!!!

The main thing is: Girls..........Girls...........Girls.............. Girls.......

Commando_turned_MD

11-29-2002, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by maldito@Nov 29 2002, 07:19 PM
But I know that LA and SF is better compared to other places in hickville, USA where there are NO asians.

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I concur w/ that!!!

wylin

11-29-2002, 09:04 PM

uci/ uc irvine/ irvine land of asians ask nympho and tre and everyone else from or who went to uci it is the home of asians.

Rogmok

11-29-2002, 09:16 PM

you know.. there is actually a town called "hicksville" on long island..

no one for boston?? its not so bad there...
but then, i've never been to cali.. so i have nothing to compare it to

maldito

11-29-2002, 09:35 PM

Hicksville on L. Island? Wow. I always wanted to visit Boston and its other neighboring cities along the coast.

luv

11-29-2002, 09:47 PM

The vote will always go to the East Coast or West Coast, I guess (or Asian island paradises)...

Maybe I'm just not that exposed, do various Asian roups really coexist without forming their own little ganglike enclaves? :huh:

Commando_turned_MD

11-29-2002, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by wylin@Nov 29 2002, 09:04 PM
uci/ uc irvine/ irvine land of asians ask nympho and tre and everyone else from or who went to uci it is the home of asians.
I believe it's like 68% Asians............something like that.

ChinaLama

11-29-2002, 10:39 PM

I just wanna quote Jim Morrison of the Doors, an LA group, at a Madison Square Garden concert:

"LA has the best landscape and everything, but New York has the grooviest people."

NYers = grooviest ppl.

Asian Americans = ppl.

Therefore, Asian Americans in NY = the grooviest Asian Americans.

Craig

11-29-2002, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Nov 30 2002, 01:39 AM
I just wanna quote Jim Morrison of the Doors, an LA group, at a Madison Square Garden concert:

"LA has the best landscape and everything, but New York has the grooviest people."

NYers = grooviest ppl.

Asian Americans = ppl.

Therefore, Asian Americans in NY = the grooviest Asian Americans.
That logic only works ...

"If and only if" all people are Asian Americans.

ChinaLama

11-29-2002, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Craig@Nov 30 2002, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Nov 30 2002, 01:39 AM
I just wanna quote Jim Morrison of the Doors, an LA group, at a Madison Square Garden concert:

"LA has the best landscape and everything, but New York has the grooviest people."

NYers = grooviest ppl.

Asian Americans = ppl.

Therefore, Asian Americans in NY = the grooviest Asian Americans.
That logic only works ...

"If and only if" all people are Asian Americans.
if Asian Americans are a subset of "people," and IF and ONLY IF ALL New Yorkers are "the grooviest people," then all Asian American New Yorkers must be the grooviest Asian Americans.

so, yes, I do have a logical flaw. But it's not the one you mentioned. Thx for the alert. :)

SunWuKong

11-29-2002, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Nov 30 2002, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Craig@Nov 30 2002, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Nov 30 2002, 01:39 AM
I just wanna quote Jim Morrison of the Doors, an LA group, at a Madison Square Garden concert:

"LA has the best landscape and everything, but New York has the grooviest people."

NYers = grooviest ppl.

Asian Americans = ppl.

Therefore, Asian Americans in NY = the grooviest Asian Americans.
That logic only works ...

"If and only if" all people are Asian Americans.
if Asian Americans are a subset of "people," and IF and ONLY IF ALL New Yorkers are "the grooviest people," then all Asian American New Yorkers must be the grooviest Asian Americans.

so, yes, I do have a logical flaw. But it's not the one you mentioned. Thx for the alert. :)
actually, by the definition of "grooviest", whereby the meaning is that of groovier than all else, a simple IF clause would be necessary, and not IF AND ONLY IF.

ChinaLama

11-29-2002, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Nov 30 2002, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Nov 30 2002, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Craig@Nov 30 2002, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Nov 30 2002, 01:39 AM
I just wanna quote Jim Morrison of the Doors, an LA group, at a Madison Square Garden concert:

"LA has the best landscape and everything, but New York has the grooviest people."

NYers = grooviest ppl.

Asian Americans = ppl.

Therefore, Asian Americans in NY = the grooviest Asian Americans.
That logic only works ...

"If and only if" all people are Asian Americans.
if Asian Americans are a subset of "people," and IF and ONLY IF ALL New Yorkers are "the grooviest people," then all Asian American New Yorkers must be the grooviest Asian Americans.

so, yes, I do have a logical flaw. But it's not the one you mentioned. Thx for the alert. :)
actually, by the definition of "grooviest", whereby the meaning is that of groovier than all else, a simple IF clause would be necessary, and not IF AND ONLY IF.
wow, i've been 0wned in logic by a monkey!

albeit the king of the monkeys. :)

Hanuman

11-30-2002, 01:22 PM

deez nuts

11-30-2002, 01:27 PM

I don't want to be known as groovy!

SunWuKong

11-30-2002, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Nov 30 2002, 04:27 PM
I don't want to be known as groovy!
how about hip?

Green_Circle

11-30-2002, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Nov 30 2002, 09:27 PM
I don't want to be known as groovy!
CB, can't you just accept it? We're groovy!

deez nuts

11-30-2002, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Green_Circle@Nov 30 2002, 04:52 PM
CB, can't you just accept it? We're groovy!
Feels like I time warped back to the 70's! hey wait I was alive during the 70's. :cry:

Commando_turned_MD

11-30-2002, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Nov 30 2002, 01:53 PM
Feels like I time warped back to the 70's! hey wait I was alive during the 70's. :cry:
Same here. Gosh, I can remember the 70's so vividly................Those were the days...... :D :D nostalgia.........

Hiroshi2

11-30-2002, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by luv@Nov 29 2002, 09:47 PM
The vote will always go to the East Coast or West Coast, I guess (or Asian island paradises)...

I've heard that there is an "asiantown" of sorts popping up in the atlanta area. It's in Doraville, if you're not familar with ATL, it's a northeastern suburb of the city.....mind you, it's an "asiantown", as opposed to a koreatown or chinatown or little tokyo or whatever. I thought I came across some pics of it somewhere, i'll post 'em if i do.

BTW, i still think Honolulu should be a candidate. The biggest ethnic group in Hawaii are the japanese, followed by some other asians (probably chinese and koreans)

lethal

11-30-2002, 04:15 PM

I've lived in DC, SF, and the NYC area (although not in NYC) with frequent visits to LA and NYC. I'd have to say that the Bay Area is the friendliest place to Asian Americans with the most resources and services and political representation.

Granted, I've never lived in Boston, NYC, LA, Vancover, or Toronto, but generally, any place with a fairly substantial Asian population is going to be more friendly and understanding than a place without that population.

Whether you like LA or SF or not, its going to be friendlier to Asian Americans than Witacha, Kansas for instance. People in LA or SF have been exposed to multiple Asians and not just what they see on TV or movies.

I read this case in my Crim class about this guy in Kansas who shot and killed one of his neighbors as the neighbor was going home because the neighbor was Asian. The killer believed that all young Asian men knew matrial arts and elieved that the neighbor was going to kill him one day. How else could he be convinced that all Asians knew martial arts besides TV and movies? If the only Asians you're exposed to are Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Lucy Liu and Bruce Lee, what do you expect?

angel nympho

11-30-2002, 05:01 PM

I don't get this.

All the cities you guys are proclaiming are the ones that are like, practically Asian-dominated. Shouldn't a good city be one in which things are mixed, other people are tolerant, and everybody can be exposed to different cultures and learn new things? ...Uh, as opposed to just OUTNUMBERING everybody else?

For example.. Will said Irvine. Uhh, there's a SHIT load of Asians there, but a lot of the white people aren't very tolerant of it. It wasn't uncommon for me to hear white people talkin' shit about the "dumbass Asian drivers" and the "freaky markets with ducks hanging in the windows."

deez nuts

11-30-2002, 05:05 PM

I have no clue. I never lived in any other city outside in and around NYC. So, I can't really say.

But NYC has been good to me, overall.

Haha yeah armycommando....we're one step closer to taking regular servings of prune juice :D

Hiroshi2

11-30-2002, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Nov 30 2002, 04:15 PM
I've lived in DC, SF, and the NYC area (although not in NYC) with frequent visits to LA and NYC. I'd have to say that the Bay Area is the friendliest place to Asian Americans with the most resources and services and political representation.

Granted, I've never lived in Boston, NYC, LA, Vancover, or Toronto, but generally, any place with a fairly substantial Asian population is going to be more friendly and understanding than a place without that population.

Whether you like LA or SF or not, its going to be friendlier to Asian Americans than Witacha, Kansas for instance. People in LA or SF have been exposed to multiple Asians and not just what they see on TV or movies.

I read this case in my Crim class about this guy in Kansas who shot and killed one of his neighbors as the neighbor was going home because the neighbor was Asian. The killer believed that all young Asian men knew matrial arts and elieved that the neighbor was going to kill him one day. How else could he be convinced that all Asians knew martial arts besides TV and movies? If the only Asians you're exposed to are Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Lucy Liu and Bruce Lee, what do you expect?
Well, where i live here in alabama, i live in a city that is about 2% asian. So even though no one would be suprised to see an asian face and there are a few asian markets, churches, stores, etc. there are no asian neighborhoods, and for many people here the only asians they've ever known are the ones in kung-fu movies. That's part of the reason why i started this thread. Someone said that there is no such thing as a best city for asians. Well, certainly some are better than others, right? Well, i'm just curious as to which ones, partly because of my asian heritage but probably more because of my strong interest in geography, cultural studies, etc.

lethal

11-30-2002, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Hiroshi2@Nov 30 2002, 10:56 PM
That's part of the reason why i started this thread. Someone said that there is no such thing as a best city for asians. Well, certainly some are better than others, right? Well, i'm just curious as to which ones, partly because of my asian heritage but probably more because of my strong interest in geography, cultural studies, etc.
Well, which cities are the best is a personal choice. As far as Asian friendly cities, like I said before, any area that has a good percentage of Asians probably has services for Asian people, some Asian politicians, authentic restaurants, things like that.

If you're looking for culture, it depends ont he city and what culture you're looking for. I don't think there's any "Asian culture," but there are ethnic cultures. To find those, you look for where there is a large population. If you're looking for Korean, try NYC and LA. Japanese - Seattle, LA (and maybe NYC). Vietnamese - LA, San Jose, DC.

Generally, I'd rate SF, LA, Seattle, NYC, Boston, DC, Toronto, Vancouver and maybe Chicago as the more Asian friendly cities. This isn't to say that you won't face racism or ignorance, but you'll get a lot less of it.

ren28

11-30-2002, 09:56 PM

:luv: San Francisco

mrazntre

12-01-2002, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by ren28@Dec 1 2002, 05:56 AM
:luv: San Francisco
no parking in SF or NY...

come to LA!!!

angel nympho

12-01-2002, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by mrazntre@Dec 1 2002, 09:26 PM
no parking in SF or NY...

come to LA!!!
Like there's parking in LA or something...? Hahahaha

sal612

12-01-2002, 04:07 PM

What does parking have to do with being Asian Friendly?!? And well...unless you go to downtown or something in SF, there should be parking. Anyhow, no city will have complete tolerance towards the Asian community. I read somewhere in the SF Chronicle site a year back that they did a survey and a lot of Americans feel uncomfortable with Asians or dislike them in their community, so it's not like there's a haven for the Asian community to flock to.

BeTheReds

12-01-2002, 05:13 PM

Shouldn't this just be.. which city has the most Asians in it? And then that't the best one?

I don't know... I think Silver Spring, MD is a great place for Asian-Americans. But I grew up there so thats why I think so.

maldito

12-01-2002, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Nov 30 2002, 09:47 PM
Generally, I'd rate SF, LA, Seattle, NYC, Boston, DC, Toronto, Vancouver and maybe Chicago as the more Asian friendly cities.
Guess you've never been to Hawai'i. According to the 2000 census, 41.6% of the population of Hawai'i listed themselves as Asian. That's pretty large compared to other major cities. Definitely Asian friendly, not just b/c of the large number of Asians, but Asians have made their mark since the mid 1800s.

Hiroshi2

12-01-2002, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Dec 1 2002, 05:13 PM
I don't know... I think Silver Spring, MD is a great place for Asian-Americans.  But I grew up there so thats why I think so.
Hey I've been to Silver Spring. It's a nice community for people in general. Suburban DC seems to be more diverse than central DC, though, even though the black population of the District has been falling and suburbanites have been moving back in.

BTW, maldito, 42% is pretty frikkin high for an population that only makes up 4% of the nationwide total. It makes complete sense, considering that geographically Hawaii is closer to asia and the homelands of asian-americans than any other state (alaska is close to asia too, but it's right across from Siberia, and I guess they'd be considered white???) Anyway, I read that SF had an asian population of 30% which is also pretty high. I would imagine Seattle would have a pretty high number as well, the asian precense seems very strong there. And what about Portland, OR? Isn't there a large japanese community there?

shaka.brah

12-01-2002, 07:43 PM

Hawaii !!!! Period !!!!!!

lethal

12-01-2002, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by maldito@Dec 1 2002, 08:22 PM
Guess you've never been to Hawai'i. According to the 2000 census, 41.6% of the population of Hawai'i listed themselves as Asian. That's pretty large compared to other major cities. Definitely Asian friendly, not just b/c of the large number of Asians, but Asians have made their mark since the mid 1800s.
Sorry, I didn't mean to exclude any cities in Hawai'i.

I was just talking about the mainland. Hawai'i is, of course, the most Asian friendly place in the U.S. by far.

shaka.brah

12-01-2002, 08:38 PM

How about Torrance/Gardena, CA area ???????

BeTheReds

12-01-2002, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Hiroshi2@Dec 2 2002, 03:08 AM
Hey I've been to Silver Spring. It's a nice community for people in general. Suburban DC seems to be more diverse than central DC, though, even though the black population of the District has been falling and suburbanites have been moving back in.

Silver Spring is one of the most diverse places in the world. I also believe the school system there did a pretty good job of attempting to eliminate racism, tho naturally lots of it exists, tho I don't think anyone ever felt unsafe in Silver Spring for as long as I was there. Well, besides those sniper shootings...

angel nympho

12-01-2002, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Dec 2 2002, 01:13 AM
Shouldn't this just be.. which city has the most Asians in it? And then that't the best one?
I'd hate to live in a city with too many Asians.

wylin

12-01-2002, 09:43 PM

i wanna live in a city w/ lotsa taiwanese safe nice and happy. w/ lotsa fun cars and hot girl. ahem rowland heights

wylin

12-01-2002, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by shaka.brah@Dec 1 2002, 08:38 PM
How about Torrance/Gardena, CA area ???????
i lived around there b4 its nice i liked it alot.

artsfartsyjanet

12-02-2002, 03:23 AM

Living in a city with a lot of Asians is VERY different for me...not to say that's a bad thing. I'm uncertain if I'll like it or not because I was born and raised in the Lou (St. Louis), and for those of you who don't know... the city's mostly black and white. The Chinese American community here is growing steadily, but our voice isn't as loud as the blacks or the whites. I've always been the minority, but it isn't that bad nor is it THAT great either. I think there are pros and cons if I decided to change the demographics of the city I decide to place myself in.

igcognito

12-02-2002, 03:57 AM

I can tell you now, it is NOT cleveland. Their are small Chinese communities scattered about and a few Korean. But they all tend to keep to themselves. Aside from Asia Plaza. The only Asian grocery store, I have seen.

Shuriken

12-02-2002, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 05:19 AM
I'd hate to live in a city with too many Asians.
How come? And how many Asians is "too many"?

(Or are you just being funny?)

angel nympho

12-02-2002, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 2 2002, 05:49 PM
How come? And how many Asians is "too many"?

(Or are you just being funny?)
No. I'm serious. Too many Asians is when we're the majority. I can't stand arrogance, and when there's herds and herds of them "typical Korean kids," it's gonna be hell. At the risk of sounding stereotypical, I have a feeling it'll just always be about trying to look badass, and talking shit on your *best friends.* .... Just 'cuz wherever there's a lot of Asians, there's a lot of retarded ignorant Asians, too.

wylin

12-02-2002, 10:26 AM

angel i think thats just irvine and just has to do w/ koreans ! =P cuz it wasnt like that in rowland heights or hacienda and torrance had the KP thing but most of the non-koreans ignored them.

Chris

12-02-2002, 12:02 PM

Vancouver and Richmond BC
and San Francisco/Bay Area

Green_Circle

12-02-2002, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by tazadar@Dec 2 2002, 06:13 PM
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area ever since a pup when my family immigrated to the US. The Bay Area has to be the best place to live not for just Asians but all others in this country in general, though cost of living is high. <_<
So true Taz. I often feel that the cost of living is extremely high. For that reason I've contemplated moving out to cheaper digs but I've become accustomed to being surrounded by Asians. Seems like a nice fit. If that's what I want, then I have to pay. Lifestyle doesn't come cheap.

:dance:

deez nuts

12-02-2002, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 2 2002, 05:49 PM
How come? And how many Asians is "too many"?

(Or are you just being funny?)
No. I'm serious. Too many Asians is when we're the majority. I can't stand arrogance, and when there's herds and herds of them "typical Korean kids," it's gonna be hell. At the risk of sounding stereotypical, I have a feeling it'll just always be about trying to look badass, and talking shit on your *best friends.* .... Just 'cuz wherever there's a lot of Asians, there's a lot of retarded ignorant Asians, too.
But don't that apply to any major area with a major concentration of one ethnicity.

For example in NY:

-Roll up to Harlem NYC you gonna get your fair share of ignorant and arrogant Blacks.

-Bounce to Corona, Queens you gonna get your share of ignorant and arrogant Latinos and Puerto Ricans

-Go all the way downtown to Chinatown you gonna get you're share of ignorant and arrogant Chinese.

-Hop on the LIE and head east past Queens to Nassau County and Suffolk County, Long Island. Predominantly white, you gonna get your ignorant and arrogant Whites.

The higher the concentration of a one specific ethnicity in a geographical locale the higher the chance you gonna bump into those fools. Cuz you got more of that group.

I mean it's just not Asians. I mean arrogance is a trait in all people and the more of that specific group of people you encounter the higher the chance you gonna encounter arrogance amongst that specific group. It's all demographics.

ChinaLama

12-02-2002, 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=angel nympho,Dec 2 2002, 01:16 PM]

I mean it's just not Asians. I mean arrogance is a trait in all people and the more of that specif group of people you encounter the higher the chance you gonna encounter arrogance amongst that group.

take a walk around Manhattan, and EVERYONE's arrogant there. "we're New Yorkers, ha ha ha!"

go to school there for 6 years, esp an elite public school that's one of the top feeders for the Ivies, and you become arrogant, too.

SAVE YOURSELF, YOUNG ONES! IT'S TOO LATE FOR ME!

deez nuts

12-02-2002, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:46 PM

roll into Manhattan, and EVERYONE's arrogant there. "we're New Yorkers, ha ha ha!"
It's all them sn00tay people that commute to Manhattan from the rich suburbs like Dix Hills, Glen Cove and Colds Spring Harbor!

Ok that and plus we all knows NYC is #1! :D

ChinaLama

12-02-2002, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:46 PM

roll into Manhattan, and EVERYONE's arrogant there. "we're New Yorkers, ha ha ha!"
It's all them sn00tay people that commute to Manhattan from the rich suburbs like Dix Hills, Glen Cove and Colds Spring Harbor!

Ok that and plus we all knows NYC is #1! :D
nah native new yorkers always make sure to keep those jersey, connecticut, and long island ppl in their place.

they go "SHHHHHHHHHHH want some panda express? you goddamn ignorant hick 3-generations-inbred radioactive-water-drinking mindless suburbanite? SHHHHHHHH if New York is such a dump, why do you make your LIVING here? HUH? punk? You know you have those nice pretty houses back where you live but CAN YOU FEED YOUR FAMILY WITH YOUR HOUSE? Do you have JOBS back where you come from, you slimy orc-like waste of smog? Oh gee I'd really like to see you try to eat WOOD and the shit in your SEPTIC tank if you didn't have glorious Gotham to crawl to to hand you some bread at the end of the week. Why don't you beat a PATH back to your wretched existence of satellite TVs and bad ghetto "ethnic" foods from your local supermarket?"

deez nuts

12-02-2002, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:46 PM

roll into Manhattan, and EVERYONE's arrogant there. "we're New Yorkers, ha ha ha!"
It's all them sn00tay people that commute to Manhattan from the rich suburbs like Dix Hills, Glen Cove and Colds Spring Harbor!

Ok that and plus we all knows NYC is #1! :D
nah native new yorkers always make sure to keep those jersey, connecticut, and long island ppl in their place.
Curse those commuters! Damn that LIRR!

Hanuman

12-02-2002, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:46 PM

roll into Manhattan, and EVERYONE's arrogant there. "we're New Yorkers, ha ha ha!"
It's all them sn00tay people that commute to Manhattan from the rich suburbs like Dix Hills, Glen Cove and Colds Spring Harbor!

Ok that and plus we all knows NYC is #1! :D
nah native new yorkers always make sure to keep those jersey, connecticut, and long island ppl in their place.
Curse those commuters! Damn that LIRR!
Hey! Stop giving them Long Islanders all the credit! We're pretty snooty here in Westchester too! We commute! Hell, even our deer are snooty!

But, at least we're snooty New Yorkers! :D

ChinaLama

12-02-2002, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Tawee@Dec 2 2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 05:46 PM

roll into Manhattan, and EVERYONE's arrogant there. "we're New Yorkers, ha ha ha!"
It's all them sn00tay people that commute to Manhattan from the rich suburbs like Dix Hills, Glen Cove and Colds Spring Harbor!

Ok that and plus we all knows NYC is #1! :D
nah native new yorkers always make sure to keep those jersey, connecticut, and long island ppl in their place.
Curse those commuters! Damn that LIRR!
Hey! Stop giving them Long Islanders all the credit! We're pretty snooty here in Westchester too! We commute! Hell, even our deer are snooty!

But, at least we're snooty New Yorkers! :D
or...former New Yorkers. or...wannabe New Yorkers.

Sorry i got no love for Westchester anymore. isn't that where the Carpetbagging Clintons live?

angel nympho

12-02-2002, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 2 2002, 05:49 PM
How come? And how many Asians is "too many"?

(Or are you just being funny?)
No. I'm serious. Too many Asians is when we're the majority. I can't stand arrogance, and when there's herds and herds of them "typical Korean kids," it's gonna be hell. At the risk of sounding stereotypical, I have a feeling it'll just always be about trying to look badass, and talking shit on your *best friends.* .... Just 'cuz wherever there's a lot of Asians, there's a lot of retarded ignorant Asians, too.
But don't that apply to any major area with a major concentration of one ethnicity.

For example in NY:

-Roll up to Harlem NYC you gonna get your fair share of ignorant and arrogant Blacks.

-Bounce to Corona, Queens you gonna get your share of ignorant and arrogant Latinos and Puerto Ricans

-Go all the way downtown to Chinatown you gonna get you're share of ignorant and arrogant Chinese.

-Hop on the LIE and head east past Queens to Nassau County and Suffolk County, Long Island. Predominantly white, you gonna get your ignorant and arrogant Whites.

The higher the concentration of a one specific ethnicity in a geographical locale the higher the chance you gonna bump into those fools. Cuz you got more of that group.

I mean it's just not Asians. I mean arrogance is a trait in all people and the more of that specific group of people you encounter the higher the chance you gonna encounter arrogance amongst that specific group. It's all demographics.
Thats why I don't think the "best" city is one that's got a grip of Asians. And that's why I don't think this thread has a point.

And by ignorant and arrogant Asians, I mean those "typical" can't stand anything American "AZN PRIDE" kinda Asians. You know? The kind that think we own everything about our "culture" and can't let anybody non-Asian try to learn about it. Those are pretty exclusive to our race, i think.

deez nuts

12-02-2002, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 09:36 PM

And by ignorant and arrogant Asians, I mean those "typical" can't stand anything American "AZN PRIDE" kinda Asians. You know? The kind that think we own everything about our "culture" and can't let anybody non-Asian try to learn about it. Those are pretty exclusive to our race, i think.
Nah I know plenty of Blacks, Latins and of course Asians like that. Hell alot of Jewish people are like that here in NY.

Yeah I'm not really feeling this thread either...I mean I would pick my location in accordance to where my career takes me, cost of living etc etc. I guess Asian population will be a consideration but it's not high up there. My only requirement it has to be a big city, I need the night life and the rustle and bustle. And not the midwest i.e. Chicago, got relatives out there. The winter is too brutal for me from what they described.

LCY

12-02-2002, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by Hiroshi2@Nov 29 2002, 11:25 AM
I haven't seen this topic anywhere, so I'll start it. What do you think is the best city for asians or asian-americans? I'm talking about North America (canada and the u.s.) I guess criteria for the best city or cities would be a city with a large or substantial asian population, asian cultural events, asians that hold political power, etc. So what do you think it is?
Honolulu, baby! (It's not in North America, but it's still part of the U.S.)

Seriously, if you want to visit a beautiful city with a lot of Asian American people (62% of pop), come here. Hawaii also has highest percentage of mixed race people in the U.S.

There are a lot of Asian cultural events, a lot of Asian Americans in all levels of government, including high powered ones. Lots of good variety of food.

Several downsides are the high cost of living, little parking, and not much nightlife.

sal612

12-02-2002, 11:57 PM

But at least it's warm and humid at night...doesn't feel anything like Frisco's cold and shivering nights! :lol:

LCY

12-03-2002, 12:06 AM

Yes, the warm weather's good too. Unless you don't like warm weather. San Francisco seemed like a great city to me when I visited. Very pretty.

blue__blood

12-03-2002, 12:56 AM

mmm.. I'd say Toronto but I'm biased cause I live in Toronto. Good size Asian population and IMO, generally really good acceptance of Asians (racial issues wise).

iris

12-03-2002, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 10:49 PM

Ok that and plus we all knows NYC is #1! :D
yeah nyc or san fran baby :P

I think BTR, AliBaba and I are the only ones overseas right now. Anyone else?

Azn Retribution

12-03-2002, 06:59 AM

HmM i kinda agree with a earlier post..
not much of an asian identity per se...
it is VERY ironic
that the "asian" identity what little of it exists, exists only outside of asia.
here in the US separated from everyone else we actually unite more or less.
and someone mentioned a city of lots of asians wouldn't be so great
that depends... I've noticed that as there are more asians(Comparing Dallas to Houston) the old racial hatreds and the air of superiority tend to show themselves more... ie Viets hating on Chinks, vice versa, Koreans & japs.
the need to unite fades away. HmMmM I think this problem will eventually
go away as asian americans form their own identity in a couple of generations as most of us are first generation asian-americans.

wylin

12-03-2002, 09:33 AM

nah i'd rather keep my cultural indentity and proof that it doesnt go away exists in chinatowns through out the USA, people should keep their specific cultural identity, because forgeting it has dire consquences down the road. take for example blacks they lost their identity by force look how its messed up their futures and lives and created the people of need/ of social stewardship aka. the welfare society that depends on the gov giving them hand outs like the old slavemaster. nay, i rather keep my taiwanese identity and throw pan asian american identification down the hole. loosing the distinctions and traditions that my family fought hard and struggled through for sum great i am asian american conciousness isnt my idea of whats good. thank god i live in socal where cultural individualities and seperatism keeps things more real.

angel nympho

12-03-2002, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 3 2002, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 09:36 PM

And by ignorant and arrogant Asians, I mean those "typical" can't stand anything American "AZN PRIDE" kinda Asians.  You know?  The kind that think we own everything about our "culture" and can't let anybody non-Asian try to learn about it.  Those are pretty exclusive to our race, i think.
Nah I know plenty of Blacks, Latins and of course Asians like that. Hell alot of Jewish people are like that here in NY.
What I mean is the American-born Asians who can't seem to understand the fact that they are US Citizens. And as US citizens, they should uphold a principle of EQUALITY. At least the majority of Blacks and Jews and stuff KNOW where they live.

deez nuts

12-03-2002, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 3 2002, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 3 2002, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 09:36 PM

And by ignorant and arrogant Asians, I mean those "typical" can't stand anything American "AZN PRIDE" kinda Asians. You know? The kind that think we own everything about our "culture" and can't let anybody non-Asian try to learn about it. Those are pretty exclusive to our race, i think.
Nah I know plenty of Blacks, Latins and of course Asians like that. Hell alot of Jewish people are like that here in NY.
What I mean is the American-born Asians who can't seem to understand the fact that they are US Citizens. And as US citizens, they should uphold a principle of EQUALITY. At least the majority of Blacks and Jews and stuff KNOW where they live.
We gonna have to agree to disagree. I've seen extreme ethnocentric behavior on all sides, not just from Asians. And up till now, prolly the most being from the Jewish sector.

Green_Circle

12-03-2002, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 3 2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 3 2002, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 3 2002, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 09:36 PM

And by ignorant and arrogant Asians, I mean those "typical" can't stand anything American "AZN PRIDE" kinda Asians. You know? The kind that think we own everything about our "culture" and can't let anybody non-Asian try to learn about it. Those are pretty exclusive to our race, i think.
Nah I know plenty of Blacks, Latins and of course Asians like that. Hell alot of Jewish people are like that here in NY.
What I mean is the American-born Asians who can't seem to understand the fact that they are US Citizens. And as US citizens, they should uphold a principle of EQUALITY. At least the majority of Blacks and Jews and stuff KNOW where they live.
We gonna have to agree to disagree. I've seen extreme ethnocentric behavior on all sides, not just from Asians. And up till now, prolly the most being from the Jewish sector.
I think you're right CB. When I used to live in the city, I recall that the Jews were definitely apart from everyone else, heart, mind and soul. They wouldn't have it any other way. Lots of folks are dying to assimilate but not so the Jews.

angel nympho

12-03-2002, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 3 2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 3 2002, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 3 2002, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 2 2002, 09:36 PM

And by ignorant and arrogant Asians, I mean those "typical" can't stand anything American "AZN PRIDE" kinda Asians. You know? The kind that think we own everything about our "culture" and can't let anybody non-Asian try to learn about it. Those are pretty exclusive to our race, i think.
Nah I know plenty of Blacks, Latins and of course Asians like that. Hell alot of Jewish people are like that here in NY.
What I mean is the American-born Asians who can't seem to understand the fact that they are US Citizens. And as US citizens, they should uphold a principle of EQUALITY. At least the majority of Blacks and Jews and stuff KNOW where they live.
We gonna have to agree to disagree. I've seen extreme ethnocentric behavior on all sides, not just from Asians. And up till now, prolly the most being from the Jewish sector.
Okay, I agree on that part. I think I'm just not wording this right, 'cuz I'm not talking about ethnocentricism. I'm talking about a distorted view of your roots.

MellowDrama

12-03-2002, 11:57 PM

I've lived in both SF and NYC. I'll give the slight edge to SF. Both are pretty good, though.

Chris

12-04-2002, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by blue__blood@Dec 3 2002, 12:56 AM
mmm.. I'd say Toronto but I'm biased cause I live in Toronto. Good size Asian population and IMO, generally really good acceptance of Asians (racial issues wise).
I agreed about the same thing with Vancouver. I mean that whole area plus Richmond are mesh together in terms of Asians being to get along with everyone else is pretty edivent there. Maybe the Asian Canadian have a better understanding than the Asian Americans.

Hanuman

12-04-2002, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 2 2002, 06:26 PM
Sorry i got no love for Westchester anymore. isn't that where the Carpetbagging Clintons live?
Yes, but I believe Clinton 'works' out of an office in Harlem.

Besides Clinton, it's really not that bad, we're only 25 minutes from manhattan, heck, that's closer that parts of Brooklyn, and a hell of a lot nicer then Staten Island! :P

SunWuKong

12-04-2002, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by blue__blood@Dec 3 2002, 03:56 AM
mmm.. I'd say Toronto but I'm biased cause I live in Toronto. Good size Asian population and IMO, generally really good acceptance of Asians (racial issues wise).
well... i know there's a huge population of chinese people in toronto (and vancouver), and most of them have HK roots. but what about other ethnicities of asian people? i've seen korean karaokes, but how big are the populations of non-chinese asians?

ChinaLama

12-04-2002, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Tawee@Dec 4 2002, 11:36 AM
Yes, but I believe Clinton 'works' out of an office in Harlem.

Besides Clinton, it's really not that bad, we're only 25 minutes from manhattan, heck, that's closer that parts of Brooklyn, and a hell of a lot nicer then Staten Island! :P
i'm referring more to Hilary. "ohhh i never lived in NY before but hey i wanna be the Senator!"

Green_Circle

12-04-2002, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by MellowDrama@Dec 4 2002, 07:57 AM
I've lived in both SF and NYC. I'll give the slight edge to SF. Both are pretty good, though.
When I was in NYC I wanted San Fran. Now that I'm in San Fran I realize that NYC is also very hot. Wish they could be only an hour's drive apart, I'd constantly be cruising back n forth!

:P

blue__blood

12-04-2002, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 4 2002, 11:00 AM
well... i know there's a huge population of chinese people in toronto (and vancouver), and most of them have HK roots. but what about other ethnicities of asian people? i've seen korean karaokes, but how big are the populations of non-chinese asians?
Can't say I speak with any authority cause I honestly stick HK-orientated malls but my perception is that the non-Chinese Asian population is pretty big too, and receive the same type of acceptance. I mean, my white friends have an on going joke here about how they're their minority now...

Green_Circle

12-04-2002, 09:56 PM

"Can't say I speak with any authority cause I honestly stick HK-orientated malls but my perception is that the non-Chinese Asian population is pretty big too, and receive the same type of acceptance. I mean, my white friends have an on going joke here about how they're their minority now... "

I know what you mean. And they like to add in 'united nations' type references also.

:cry:

amietron

12-05-2002, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 2 2002, 02:49 PM
Ok that and plus we all knows NYC is #1!  :D
Not everyone is down with NYC, but I certainly am. Do you think a random Californian would know what "LIE" stands for? No. Long Island Expressway!Yes, we all know NYC is ichiban. =)

Jews have a hard time assimilating because of the hardships they've endured in the past, like when they first immigrated to the states. Nobody ever embraced them, so they had to fend for themselves, making little Jewish communities and such, like a school of fish-- protection by numbers. This is why there are so many Jewish organizations, also. They try to stay involved in the circle, and not fall out, like many Japanese Americans have.

DaBestSpooner

12-05-2002, 10:38 AM

Amsterdam

great weed, hash shakes, and you can window shop for whores

Hiroshi2

12-05-2002, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by amietron@Dec 5 2002, 04:25 AM

Jews have a hard time assimilating because of the hardships they've endured in the past, like when they first immigrated to the states. Nobody ever embraced them, so they had to fend for themselves, making little Jewish communities and such, like a school of fish-- protection by numbers. This is why there are so many Jewish organizations, also. They try to stay involved in the circle, and not fall out, like many Japanese Americans have.
Well, in 2002, it seems like in general Jews are accepted as whites, and asians are well on their way. Apparently some asians love this idea, while others are pro-ethnic pride and all. Personally, i don't want to see the asian-american identity sucked up into the white one.

ChinaLama

12-05-2002, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by Hiroshi2@Dec 6 2002, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by amietron@Dec 5 2002, 04:25 AM

Jews have a hard time assimilating because of the hardships they've endured in the past, like when they first immigrated to the states. Nobody ever embraced them, so they had to fend for themselves, making little Jewish communities and such, like a school of fish-- protection by numbers. This is why there are so many Jewish organizations, also. They try to stay involved in the circle, and not fall out, like many Japanese Americans have.
Well, in 2002, it seems like in general Jews are accepted as whites, and asians are well on their way. Apparently some asians love this idea, while others are pro-ethnic pride and all. Personally, i don't want to see the asian-american identity sucked up into the white one.
i think the difference is, if you're Jewish and wannabe a Gentile, you can just change your last name. But if you're Asian and want to fit in w/ whites...it's not as easy.

MellowDrama

12-05-2002, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 5 2002, 06:40 PM
i think the difference is, if you're Jewish and wannabe a Gentile, you can just change your last name. But if you're Asian and want to fit in w/ whites...it's not as easy.

What do you mean? I'm an Asian gentile!! :lol:

j/k

You're right. Asians can never be fully white simply because... they're not. :rolleyes:

BeTheReds

12-05-2002, 08:33 PM

I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood and they are the most xenophobic racist and ethnocentric people in the world. My mom teaches at a Jewish Private school and several of the children were pulled out of that school because their parents didn't want any Christians teaching their children. At one assembly night, they were supposed to open the meeting with the singing of the Israeli and American national anthems... Everyone knew the Israeli one but noone knew the American one. They refered to non Jews as crackers. I had a part time job at a kosher pizza place in my neighborhood and someone got mad at me one day cuz I didn't wear an israeli flag in support of israel on the day of one jewish rally in DC and I replied by saying I was not Jewish. GASP!!! The entire restaurant clientelle seemed so surprised. The people there were always bitching and complaining about something and nothing could ever be done right. One guy asked me to put ice in his coffe and complained that it was too cold. One time the owner refused to serve a muslim woman who came in but I served her anyway cuz that's just fucked up.

MellowDrama

12-06-2002, 12:45 AM

That is pretty fucked up. Sounds like some racist shit out of the 1950s.

DaBestSpooner

12-06-2002, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Dec 5 2002, 11:33 PM
I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood and they are the most xenophobic racist and ethnocentric people in the world. My mom teaches at a Jewish Private school and several of the children were pulled out of that school because their parents didn't want any Christians teaching their children. At one assembly night, they were supposed to open the meeting with the singing of the Israeli and American national anthems... Everyone knew the Israeli one but noone knew the American one. They refered to non Jews as crackers. I had a part time job at a kosher pizza place in my neighborhood and someone got mad at me one day cuz I didn't wear an israeli flag in support of israel on the day of one jewish rally in DC and I replied by saying I was not Jewish. GASP!!! The entire restaurant clientelle seemed so surprised. The people there were always bitching and complaining about something and nothing could ever be done right. One guy asked me to put ice in his coffe and complained that it was too cold. One time the owner refused to serve a muslim woman who came in but I served her anyway cuz that's just fucked up.
those are orthodox jews, the fanatical ones

normal casual practicing ones I dont mind

deez nuts

12-06-2002, 06:28 AM

Jews became their own race...they don't like to be called white. The religion became a race. It's kinda funny. Yeah the orthodox ones are hardcore and difficult to deal with if you're not one of them. But the Russian Jews are a pain in the ass (ones from Forest Hills, Rego Park, etc etc). They even annoy the other Jews.

ChinaLama

12-06-2002, 08:09 AM

how did "best city for Asian Americans" turn into Jew-bashing?

Anyway, Jews and Asian-Americans have a lot in common:

1) they're both "model minorities." Everyone thinks Jews and APAs have no problems cuz they're "smart" and "hard-working."

2) They're both SEEN as excessively clannish. I know some Orthodox Jews, too, who are pretty friendly people. Even tho they hang out w/ other Orthodox Jews for the *most* part, they'll hang out w/ Gentile people, too, and they're not too uptight about their religion that they'll diss other ppl's or their lack of religion. But honestly, how are Jews any more clannish or cliquish than say, fundamentalist Christians or any other "group" of people? Do people rag on college Christians for being cliquish? They're always having "large group" and "small group" and "family" get-togethers, certainly sounds MORE cliquish than some Orthodox Jews getting together for Shabbat. Yet, few people spend half as much time, thought, or energy on talking about how clannish Christians are, but they like to point out how Jews are.

3) Both Jewish and APA men are emasculated; you rarely, if ever, see a Jewish sex symbol, and jokes revolving around Jews concentrate on the size of their noses, but on the converse size of their hoses. (this was pted out to me by a friend of Jewish descent).

deez nuts

12-06-2002, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Morientes@Dec 6 2002, 11:15 AM

Plus, some of the Jewish women are fine to say the least -- they look like some Italian, Greek or middle eastern girl.
Werd!

I want a Jewish mistress they know how to treat their man.

Wow we did go off an a tangent.

Edit: no bashing from me. just calling it the way i see it and from what my Jewish friends tell me.

DaBestSpooner

12-06-2002, 12:01 PM

asians get along in general with jews

its those crazy orthodox ones!

Their sex symbol is Ross from friends

Hanuman

12-06-2002, 02:14 PM

My dad had a guy working for him once who happened to be Jewish. They were discussing things one day and my father goes 'it's ok. You're jewish, you're hardworking, your people have always worked hard, so I don't mind hiring you."

Ugh! that was embarrassing. I live in a neighborhood with a large percentage of Jewish people, and I've dated a lot of jewish girls. They have their quirks and traits, just as Asian american people do. It's just a different flava. Man how did we get so off target. Oh yeah, we're talking about how New York is the best city for Asians and non-Asians alike. :D

angel nympho

12-06-2002, 02:16 PM

Haha, once I was eating lunch with a bunch of people, and I asked my friend if I could have some of his water. He's like, "no, i"m saving it for later." After I replied with "quit being such a fuckin' jew," he turned around all like "i AM a jew." I was like... :blink: *OOPS*

SunWuKong

12-06-2002, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 6 2002, 05:16 PM
Haha, once I was eating lunch with a bunch of people, and I asked my friend if I could have some of his water. He's like, "no, i"m saving it for later." After I replied with "quit being such a fuckin' jew," he turned around all like "i AM a jew." I was like... :blink: *OOPS*
tsk tsk tsk...

Hanuman

12-06-2002, 02:58 PM

ChinaLama

12-07-2002, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 6 2002, 10:16 PM
Haha, once I was eating lunch with a bunch of people, and I asked my friend if I could have some of his water. He's like, "no, i"m saving it for later." After I replied with "quit being such a fuckin' jew," he turned around all like "i AM a jew." I was like... :blink: *OOPS*
what i would've said would be "Exactly. So quit BEING a goddamn KIKE!"

and if you knew me, I would really really say that. :D

angel nympho

12-07-2002, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 7 2002, 08:47 AM
what i would've said would be "Exactly. So quit BEING a goddamn KIKE!"

and if you knew me, I would really really say that. :D
LOL, I just said "figures."

MellowDrama

12-07-2002, 01:30 PM

Er... what happened to the "no racial slurs" rule? :confused:

angel nympho

12-07-2002, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by MellowDrama@Dec 7 2002, 09:30 PM
Er... what happened to the "no racial slurs" rule? :confused:
Nobody's calling anybody anything.

MellowDrama

12-07-2002, 02:35 PM

But wasn't someone catching hell for blatantly flipping the "n" word, not to people here, but to refer to Blacks in-general? (Which I feel was wrong and did indeed warrant censure.)

angel nympho

12-07-2002, 03:07 PM

I wasn't aware "jew" was a blatant racial slur.

SunWuKong

12-07-2002, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by MellowDrama@Dec 7 2002, 05:35 PM
But wasn't someone catching hell for blatantly flipping the "n" word, not to people here, but to refer to Blacks in-general? (Which I feel was wrong and did indeed warrant censure.)
nobody here is calling anybody a racial slur. angel was referring to an incident that happened which involved a racial slur. and personally i'll give some leeway to racial slurs as long as it was not directed toward a particular member of this site. and yes, i was perfectly aware of it the first time that "nigger" was used. it was only when i felt that it got out of hand that i put a stop to it.

SunWuKong

12-07-2002, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 7 2002, 06:07 PM
I wasn't aware "jew" was a blatant racial slur.
i think it depends on the context. and the way that you used it, well there are people that would consider it a racial slur. me included.

angel nympho

12-07-2002, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 7 2002, 11:10 PM
i think it depends on the context. and the way that you used it, well there are people that would consider it a racial slur. me included.
That's like saying "stop acting so Asian." In that case, is "Asian" a racial slur, too? If so, then ANY word could potentially be a racial slur. Whereas "nigger" is ALWAYS a racial slur.

SunWuKong

12-07-2002, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 7 2002, 06:12 PM
That's like saying "stop acting so Asian." In that case, is "Asian" a racial slur, too? If so, then ANY word could potentially be a racial slur. Whereas "nigger" is ALWAYS a racial slur.
has any Asian told you that the word "Asian" can be used as a racial slur? i personallly have never been told that. but i did have a jewish person tell me that "Jew" can be a racial slur. and judging by the reaction of your friend in that incident, he thinks so too.

MellowDrama

12-08-2002, 02:26 AM

Um, I wasn't talking about jew. I was talking about "KIKE." And yes, I was aware that it was Lama who said it. But whatever, your board, your rules.

SunWuKong

12-08-2002, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by MellowDrama@Dec 8 2002, 05:26 AM
Um, I wasn't talking about jew. I was talking about "KIKE." And yes, I was aware that it was Lama who said it. But whatever, your board, your rules.
ok, well, i believe the same thing i said about angel also applies to lama. again, it wasn't until it got out of hand with the N word that i put a stop to it.

generally i'm not really as much of a nazi as you think! :P

ChinaLama

12-08-2002, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by MellowDrama@Dec 8 2002, 10:26 AM
Um, I wasn't talking about jew. I was talking about "KIKE." And yes, I was aware that it was Lama who said it. But whatever, your board, your rules.
slightly different context:

other person said, "what do you expect from a dumb nigger in the ghetto" or something like that. There's no proper context to that.

What I said is a potential retort if I were in Angel's shoes, and confronting a Jewish friend. So the word "kike" is meant for humorous purposes; there's some context to it. As in, a person will be offended that I call hima "Jew"-- but in my case, instead of just shrugging it off, I would probably have escalated it by calling him a "kike" in return. Coarse humor, yes, but different from just saying "shaq is a dumb nigger from the hood," where it's a public attack, and no one would be able to see the humor, as the case would be between two friends.

angel nympho

12-08-2002, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 7 2002, 11:17 PM
has any Asian told you that the word "Asian" can be used as a racial slur? i personallly have never been told that. but i did have a jewish person tell me that "Jew" can be a racial slur. and judging by the reaction of your friend in that incident, he thinks so too.
My friend wasn't mad. He thought it was hilarious. But I was embarrassed anyway.

ChinaLama

12-08-2002, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 8 2002, 05:16 PM
My friend wasn't mad. He thought it was hilarious. But I was embarrassed anyway.
i think it really depends on the situation. like if you use "Jew" to mean a cheapbastard, then I think it does count as a slur. But whatever, as long as it's in jest and among friends, it's not a big deal.

hormiga

12-08-2002, 11:54 AM

I don't think there IS a "best" city for Asians or Asian-Americans. Home is where YOU make it. Wherever you find that you can feel comfortable is the best place for you.

hormiga

12-08-2002, 11:55 AM

New Mexico

Green_Circle

12-08-2002, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Dec 8 2002, 07:44 PM
i think it really depends on the situation. like if you use "Jew" to mean a cheapbastard, then I think it does count as a slur. But whatever, as long as it's in jest and among friends, it's not a big deal.
some peeps use 'Chinaman' as a non slur ugly as the term is.
That's when we say, hey wait a second there bud!

angel nympho

12-08-2002, 12:36 PM

I agree. I was just saying that since ANY word could potentially be a racial slur, depending on context... But there are also some words out there that are ALWAYS racial slurs... context doesn't matter for some words. And THOSE words are the ones people need to work on using less.

ChinaLama

12-08-2002, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Green_Circle@Dec 8 2002, 08:34 PM
some peeps use 'Chinaman' as a non slur ugly as the term is.
That's when we say, hey wait a second there bud!
well, I use China MAN as a term of pride, actually. :) But I emphasize the MAN part-- i mean "chinaman" sounds like a doll or something.

Hiroshi2

12-09-2002, 04:05 PM

I wasn't aware "jew" was a blatant racial slur.

Well, i've heard that using the term "jew" (as opposed to "jewish") is the same as referring to japanese as "japs". Some people will say, "oh I'm just shorterning the name", while others will call it a racial slur. :confused:

BTW, hormiga while i agree with you to some extent, i don't think you can just settle anywhere, especially if you're a minority (it applies to all minorities imo, for example some cities are black friendly while others aren't, some are asian-friendly, while others aren't, etc.). Like say for example, you're chinese. well you might want to live in a city where there's a sizable amount of other chinese or chinese-americans with which you can interact with. It's natural to want to be with your own kind for most people. Well, you probably wouldn't want to move to Lubbock, Texas would you? Or Fort Smith, Arkansas, or Charleston, West Virginia or any other number of little redneck towns with nothing but country white folks living there. See my point?