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TB4000
03-28-2007, 06:18 PM
You know you can't wait. Final book in the series and all that.
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SunWuKong
03-28-2007, 07:28 PM
pics are not showing up.
in honor of this momentous occasion, i will reread books 1-6, and watch the last 2 movies. i wasn't very...fond...of the first 2.
bluemonq
07-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Leaked!
No spoilers (http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/07/17/potter_leaked/index.html)
The spoiler to end all spoilers (http://image.bayimg.com/ja/dh/aa/ab/p.jpg)
tripostrophe
07-18-2007, 01:14 AM
^lolz
Pookie_gal
07-18-2007, 02:35 PM
I can't wait!! So come on, what do YOU think is going to happen? :biggrin:
bluemonq
07-18-2007, 03:44 PM
i don't need to think; i know. snape kills voldemort. and harry. and hermione. and then the death eaters have an satanic orgy. and then finally the gates to hell open up, devouring the earth. i didn't mention ron because nobody gives a damn about ron.
bluemonq: cuz we all know how much you DON'T like harry potter, right? :wink:
The main hazard with teleportation is - as you many know - splinching: leaving parts of your body behind. The students aren't taught that because, well, it's the same reason why they don't allow underage drinking or teaching 14 year-olds how to drive. The worst thing that could happen with a Patronus Charm is having an ethereal creature that gallops around, with the side effect of any dark forces being run off.
Wait. Did I just reveal that I read Harry Potter books? OH SHI-
bluemonq
07-18-2007, 08:53 PM
bluemonq: cuz we all know how much you DON'T like harry potter, right? :wink:
[pulls out wand]
obliviate!
popculturepooka
07-18-2007, 11:18 PM
[pulls out wand]
obliviate!
Protego!!
I will then combo you into a levicorpus then break the combo with a reducto.
edit: n00b! You mean you can't do spells without saying them verbally? I'm dissappointed.
bluemonq
07-18-2007, 11:26 PM
you know though, i don't get it: when the guy took the pictures of the pages, why did he have to tilt the camera? why didn't he just take a picture with the camera right above the book, aimed straight down? wouldn't it be a really doozy if it turns out this was a fake (or that at least it was an alternate ending? maybe that's why it took so long for #7)?
rice cracker
07-22-2007, 09:04 AM
Or why didn't he just use a SCANNER?
bluemonq
07-22-2007, 01:31 PM
because scanning is much slower?
rice cracker
07-22-2007, 03:28 PM
It's not that slow, but I guess it would depend on the scanner.
popculturepooka
07-23-2007, 01:42 PM
The book was awesome.
Adaon
07-23-2007, 02:13 PM
Got the book on Saturday morning around 12:30.
Got home and started reading around 1:10.
Finished the book at 8:20ish.
And I slept in for 14 hrs afterwards. Wasted a whole day. heh. >_<
hooligan
07-23-2007, 02:29 PM
If you clicked on this, go out side and get some sunshine.
Adaon
07-23-2007, 02:38 PM
If you clicked on this, go out side and get some sunshine.
You're a mean guy, Ben.
I brought my book to work so my boss can take it home and read it.
She's reading it now. Means I get a lazy day. w00t w00t.
rice cracker
07-23-2007, 04:10 PM
The book was awesome.
Yes, yes it was. Although I could have done with less camping.
bluemonq
07-23-2007, 11:03 PM
There's a bunch of things that aren't resolved or feel odd, though:
Why couldn't the Death Eaters have stolen Time Turners back in #4?
What was the big deal about Harry's eyes (that Rowling said was so important?)
Why does the Elder Wand seem so much like a deus ex machina?
19 years later, why does Harry suggest that Lupin and Tonk's son come to live with them... when he is 19?!
What happened to Madame Maxine?
Kreacher's change of heart is ridiculous.
What lies behind the veil in Order of the Phoenix?
Voldemort lost his body when he tried to kill Harry the first time, so how the hell did he get his wand back?
How did Dumbledore know all the details about how Lily died if "there were no witnesses"?
Why did Voldemort go after Harry and not Neville?
pikachupacabra
07-24-2007, 12:55 AM
There's a bunch of things that aren't resolved or feel odd, though:
What was the big deal about Harry's eyes (that Rowling said was so important?)
he has the same eyes as lily, which reminds snape every time he looks at them, also why he's all "look...at...me..." at the end.
That, or we know the actual reason why harry can survive.
SHARINGAN
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Adaon
07-24-2007, 01:31 PM
There's a bunch of things that aren't resolved or feel odd, though:
Why couldn't the Death Eaters have stolen Time Turners back in #4?
What was the big deal about Harry's eyes (that Rowling said was so important?)
Why does the Elder Wand seem so much like a deus ex machina?
19 years later, why does Harry suggest that Lupin and Tonk's son come to live with them... when he is 19?!
What happened to Madame Maxine?
Kreacher's change of heart is ridiculous.
What lies behind the veil in Order of the Phoenix?
Voldemort lost his body when he tried to kill Harry the first time, so how the hell did he get his wand back?
How did Dumbledore know all the details about how Lily died if "there were no witnesses"?
Why did Voldemort go after Harry and not Neville?
Why couldn't the Death Eaters have stolen Time Turners back in #4?
Time Turners were as rare as invisibility cloaks, especially "good ones". Harry's invisibility cloak just pwned everyone else's.
What was the big deal about Harry's eyes (that Rowling said was so important?)
If it weren't for the fact that Harry had Lily's eyes, then Snape might not have even bothered with Harry. Harry looked so much like James that Snape was willing to practically abuse him, but Lily's eyes haunted Snape as his former best friend/love.
Why does the Elder Wand seem so much like a deus ex machina?
It was, according to the Deathly Hallow lore, the wand created by death to be the most powerful wand. However, it, by no means, meant that the wielder was omnipotent, as described by the bloody history it supposedly had. Also, Dumbledore was able to defeat Grindelwald back in 1945 with an obviously non-lethal method as well. At the end of "The Order of the Phoenix", Dumbledore's "defeat" at the hands of Draco (Draco disarms Dumbledore) allowed the Elder Wand to recognize Draco as the wielder of the wand, since Draco "defeated" Dumbledore, not Snape who KILLED Dumbledore after he had been disarmed by Draco. That's why at the end fight with Voldemort, Harry was basically calling him an idiot for not knowing that.
19 years later, why does Harry suggest that Lupin and Tonk's son come to live with them... when he is 19?!
Prior to Tonks' death, it was noted that Tonks had left Teddy at Andromeda's home (her mom's house) before she went after Remus. It's pretty much assumed that Teddy stayed with Grandma Andromeda, but visited Godfather Harry and folk often enough. Especially since he's involved with Bill and Fleur's daughter Victoire.
What happened to Madame Maxine?
She was headmistress of the French school, didn't see anyone from that school besides Fleur and her little sister come around. Heck, even from the German school, only Victor Krum showed up, whereas his Headmaster was a former DeathEater as well. Don't know what happened there either. I'm just assuming they were too minor of characters to be dealt with. Madame Maxine's main point was the fact that she was a giantess like Hargrid was part giant, and they had went to try and convince the giants to join Dumbledore, but they joined Voldemort, except Grawp (but even he was dwarfed by the real giants).
Kreacher's change of heart is ridiculous.
Not really. He had been so used to abuse from the Black Family for generations that he pretty much brushed off all forms of kindness from everyone else, except from Regalus and his mom. And all Kreacher had of Regalus was the pendant/fake horcrux that was left behind in Book 6. Kreacher had been the one who helped it there, after his master had to drink the poison from the fountain place the fake horcrux in. Must have sucked to be Kreacher. I can see why Kreacher would turn around when his most treasured possession was returned to him by his "new Master" Harry.
What lies behind the veil in Order of the Phoenix?
It didn't really seem THAT important while Voldemort was pretty much back in power, and that was a bigger concern than the veil. But who knows.
Voldemort lost his body when he tried to kill Harry the first time, so how the hell did he get his wand back?
Maybe one of Voldemort's followers got it back for him. Keeping in mind that Wormtail was the one who ratted out (haha, get it, ratted out?) the Potters, it's not farfetched to think that he probably went back after Voldemort's defeat and got it, as he knew where the Potters were.
How did Dumbledore know all the details about how Lily died if "there were no witnesses"?
This question was too much for me to think about.
Why did Voldemort go after Harry and not Neville?
That's the thing. The prophecy had said that Voldemort would CHOOSE his equal. Keeping in mind that Neville's parents were strong wizards as was Harry's, it was flip of the coin that Harry was picked over Neville.
Neville's parents' death at the hands of Bellatrix fits the timeline somewhere, but I'm not sure where.
Maybe Neville's parents were killed prior to Harry's parents.
Here's something my friend noticed from one of the books too. We don't know much about Neville's parents, but we do know that Lily was a "mudblood" and James was a "pure blood", much like Snape and Voldemort were. And by the prophecy of Voldemort and Harry, Voldemort was supposed to choose someone his equal, then it would make sense that he would pick someone of the same parentage/parent background as himself.
Damnit. I really need to catch up on the books so I can see what lurks behind all those spoiler tags... I read the first five and enjoyed them thoroughly. How do the last two compare?
popculturepooka
07-25-2007, 12:16 PM
Damnit. I really need to catch up on the books so I can see what lurks behind all those spoiler tags... I read the first five and enjoyed them thoroughly. How do the last two compare?
They size up nicely with the rest. Though I think they are a tiny bit weaker...but that may just be my bias talking.
Goblet of Fire is my favorite HP book.
WillyWazza
07-25-2007, 09:02 PM
Wow...everyone just randomly dies in this book.
I thought it was disappointing :/ Especially the epilogue.
rice cracker
07-26-2007, 10:04 AM
Omg Spoiler Tag Plz!!!
tripostrophe
07-26-2007, 03:06 PM
I just realized that any smart person who wants to read this book will probably stay away from this thread.
Adaon
07-26-2007, 03:30 PM
I just realized that any smart person who wants to read this book will probably stay away from this thread.
It was because of the fact I know I can't resist reading into threads like this and ear hustling over other people's conversations re: Harry Potter that I raced through my copy as soon as I got it. Now I've got a book that's waiting for a new home already.
Omg Spoiler Tag Plz!!!Yeah, I'm going to pretend that dude is either fucking around or just talking outta his ass.
bluemonq
07-26-2007, 09:21 PM
Err... Rowling said long ago that important people would die. So, it's not really a spoiler. After all, it's the final battle between good and evil. How would they manage to have zero casualties?
rice cracker
07-27-2007, 07:10 AM
Perhaps we should have two threads, one for talking about the books with untagged spoilers, one for talking about Deathly Hallows with NO spoilers at all?
AngryABCGirl
07-28-2007, 01:25 AM
An afternoon of my life just disappeared reading this.
Satisfying end to the series, but I have to say it was really dark. Wow.
Adaon
07-28-2007, 08:00 AM
Warning!! Warning!! Spoilers link!!
J.K. Rowlings' explanation of Ron, Hermione & Harry. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/
Here are some of my answers to bluemonq's questions:
Why couldn't the Death Eaters have stolen Time Turners back in #4?
There could be a time limit on Time Turners.
Why did Voldemort go after Harry and not Neville?
Because Voldy himself is a halfblood, just like Harry.
Now I have a question:
How the hell did Neville pull Gryffindor's sword from the sorting hat at the end to cut of Nagini's head? I'm under the impression that the sword was taken away from the wizards by the goblin who robbed Bellatrix's vault with Harry and Co.
Generally, the book was a bit slow to start, and it then accelerated a bit too quickly towards the end. My prediction about Harry being a horcrux turned out to be true, and I'm a disappointed in the way Voldy killed himself, and I really wish that Harry would die in the end. I also really hate the chapter that Harry has a conversation with Albus Dumby in Harry's head after he was hit by the killing curse, I mean, what the hell is that all about? There doesn't seem to be any explanation for it, it felt like that J.K.R was just pulling stuff out of her arse.
However, it is still a good book that's worth reading.
Pookie_gal
08-03-2007, 11:25 AM
I'm with Adaon. Bought the book last Saturday and had to read it before I checked this thread and before friends told me what happened.
And man, it's so addictive. Loved it though, except for the epilogue, which seems too 'happy'.
The final book ties up most of the loose ends that were floating around in the past few books, but I expected much more from the Voldemort and Harry battle. :redface:
Adaon
08-03-2007, 07:25 PM
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How the hell did Neville pull Gryffindor's sword from the sorting hat at the end to cut of Nagini's head? I'm under the impression that the sword was taken away from the wizards by the goblin who robbed Bellatrix's vault with Harry and Co.
Hmmm.
I was under the impression it was lost because the stuff kept replicating. But then again, how did RON destroy the horcrux he did when Snape's patronus lead Harry to that one Horcrux in the forest? I don't remember
Hmmm.
I was under the impression it was lost because the stuff kept replicating. But then again, how did RON destroy the horcrux he did when Snape's patronus lead Harry to that one Horcrux in the forest? I don't remember
Here is the quote from the book about how the goblin took the sword:
==begin-quote==
It was Griphook who had seen it and Griphook who lunged, and in that instant Harry knew that the goblin had neverexpected them to keep their word. One hand holding tightly to a fistful of Harry's hair ot make sure he did not fall into the heaving sea of burning gold, Griphook seized the hilt of the sword and swung it high out of Harry's reach.
...
Harry shoved the cup into his pocket and reached up to retrieve the sword, but Griphook is gone. SLiding from Harry's shoulders the moment he could, he had sprinted for cover amongst the surrounding goblins, brandishing the sword and crying, 'Thieves! Thieves! Help! Thieves!'
==end-quote==
Ron regretted leaving Harry as soon as he left after the argument. But when he tried to go back, Hermione's protective spells prevented him from finding their exact location. But the deluminator kept leading Ron back to somewhere near Harry and Herminone's camping location, so Ron kept turning up near Harry and Herminone and hoping one of them would show themselves -- that's why Harry kept feeling someone was nearby after Ron left, and that's why when Snape finally used the doe patronus to lure Harry out of his protective spells, Ron was finally able to see him.
Kapish?
BaiSanghei
08-05-2007, 07:56 PM
Neville's parents' death at the hands of Bellatrix fits the timeline somewhere, but I'm not sure where.
Maybe Neville's parents were killed prior to Harry's parents.
His parents were tortured by Bellatrix until they went insane, and are now in St. Mungos or whatever it's called. I believe, from Goblet of Fire, it was revealed that it happened after Voldemort fell the first time, and was the last revenge then of the death eaters, we saw the trial in the penseive.
I think the sorting hat operates like the room of requirement, and retrieves the Griffindor sword for those who need it. Didn't Harry also pull it out of the hat in Chamber of Secrets, or am I remembering it all wrong? I really liked Neville's being the hero, although I so expected he would die.
I also got and read it the first day, overall quite satisfied with it. The middle lagged, but that always happens. I think I'm the only person who didn't mind the epilogue, it rather reminded of the exquisite simpleness of normal life, which has been a value stressed throughout the books.
Adaon
08-06-2007, 02:56 PM
Here is the quote from the book about how the goblin took the sword:
==begin-quote==
It was Griphook who had seen it and Griphook who lunged, and in that instant Harry knew that the goblin had neverexpected them to keep their word. One hand holding tightly to a fistful of Harry's hair ot make sure he did not fall into the heaving sea of burning gold, Griphook seized the hilt of the sword and swung it high out of Harry's reach.
...
Harry shoved the cup into his pocket and reached up to retrieve the sword, but Griphook is gone. SLiding from Harry's shoulders the moment he could, he had sprinted for cover amongst the surrounding goblins, brandishing the sword and crying, 'Thieves! Thieves! Help! Thieves!'
==end-quote==
Ron regretted leaving Harry as soon as he left after the argument. But when he tried to go back, Hermione's protective spells prevented him from finding their exact location. But the deluminator kept leading Ron back to somewhere near Harry and Herminone's camping location, so Ron kept turning up near Harry and Herminone and hoping one of them would show themselves -- that's why Harry kept feeling someone was nearby after Ron left, and that's why when Snape finally used the doe patronus to lure Harry out of his protective spells, Ron was finally able to see him.
Kapish?
so ron's broken horcrux was broken before the bank was brought into play?
USE SPOILER TAGS PEOPLE. Geez. Learn some consideration for people who haven't finished it yet. I wanna smack people upside the head for the people who haven't finished reading yet.
so ron's broken horcrux was broken before the bank was brought into play?
ron's broken horcrux ? Ron made a horcurx for himself? Are you referring to Slytherin's locklet? If so, it was broken the night Ron returned to Harry when Harry was lured out by Snape's doe, and of course Ron used the sword, which was in Snape's possession before, to break the locklet. This all happened way before the bank.
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