Who smokes?

[achtungbaby]

I just read a report that young Korean males smoke more than everyone else (combined, probably).

Do any of you smoke -- cigarettes, that is...? Bud is sooo [i:c46093cf8e]passe[/i:c46093cf8e]:P What do you smoke...and for how long have you been doing such damage to your bod?

I've been smoking for nearly (gasp!) seven years now.

Jesus Christ...now that I think about it...[i:c46093cf8e]seven years[/i:c46093cf8e]!

Where the hell are my Reds?!?

[princess]

nooo fellahz fellahz dont smoke! kissing someone with smokers beath isnt pleasant.

[NotAsian]

This oughtta've been a poll

[achtungbaby]

Good idea.

[thaite]

I make an annual pilgrimage to Tijuana once a year. During that time, I go watch a bullfight and sit there with a beer in one hand and a cigar in the other and shout "Ole!" all afternoon. That's the only time I ever smoke.

[achtungbaby]

[quote:34790c4825="buoywonder"]That's the only time I ever smoke.[/quote:34790c4825]

That still makes you a smoker and you will suffer of emphysema like the rest of us!

[tapestrybabe]

I listen to the radio a lot. And I heard that this Vermont company.. has put a ban on hiring smokers. I mean, its not just a company thats just a smoke free environment... where ppl can go outside and have a smoke... but they won't hire smokers period. I'm not sure how it all works out.. i mean, if you smoke in the privacy of your own home, how is the company to know that?? Anyhow, I think it's kinda like an interesting policy when it comes to contributing to the anti smoking campaign. But then again, where does it all stop... like it can lead to banning to hire ppl who drink...
Me, I got mixed feelings on this issue...

Anyhow, here's is an official brief statement on this Vermont company that I just found.... http://www.usatoday.com/news/states/vtmain.htm

[Saiko]

I like the smell of cigars, but that's just about it. I don't smoke. And I assure you, I never will. I've tried it once, when I was a bit drunk and my friend offered me. Didn't like it. Somebody I knew used to smoke a long while ago. I think watching a 13 year old girl spit and hack every couple of seconds repelled me even more from smoking. On the bright side she quit. But now she's into weed.
The only drug I do is an occasional drink. Not so much that I get drunk off my ass though.

[achtungbaby]

[quote:17d0d4493a]Small Dog Electronics owner Don Mayer said he has found that smokers tend to be sick more often, are less productive and aren't as good employees as non-smokers. [/quote:17d0d4493a]

Our nation's current bias against cigarette smokers is ridiculous, not to mention hypocritical -- but what else is new about politically correct fads? In 10 years we'll probably have legalized marijuana but outlawed cigs, while our Hollywood stars will continue puffing on cigars.

[ImrkevinpakI]

I never smoke, but i suffered from second hand smoke...damn.

I Like corona , Hite and other imported beer. Willing to spend big bucks on fine wine .

[inkpainter]

uhhh, achtungbaby... :cry:

California Smokers’ Helpline
Asian and Pacific Islander Tobacco Education Network
Asian and Pacific Islander American Health Forum
942 Market Street, Suite 200
San Francisco, CA 94102

415-954-9961
rursua@apiahf.org

[tapestrybabe]

I'm a non smoker myself. I also dont drink. And while I'm a bit shady on my drinking views....
I know I'm all for the anti smoking campaigns out there. And while it is a choice for those who choose to smoke.. And while smoking shouldnt really reflect ones intelligence, creativity, and what they are capable of doing.. I fail to see why cigarettes are still being manufactured. Cuz there isn't anything good about it. I'm like that with guns. I hate guns, and I dont see why they are still being made and sold too.. But at any rate.. with this Vermont company... ppl argue-- how can a company regulate how one should live their personal life.... And I believe, the company isn't giving any authority how you should live your life... but your making that choice for yourself... when your applying for that job. And I feel the non smoking life style is a choice more ppl should often make in the first place...

[NotAsian]

[quote:a651d25862="Tapestrybabe"]with this Vermont company... ppl argue-- how can a company regulate how one should live their personal life.... And I believe, the company isn't giving any authority how you should live your life... but your making that choice for yourself... when your applying for that job. [/quote:a651d25862]

But the point is that smokers cannot apply for that particular job. I mean, what if all companies demanded non-smokers? Sure, there would be a lot more non-smokers, but stuff like that takes away our personal freedoms.

[tapestrybabe]

[quote:c746a25e88="NotAsian"]
But the point is that smokers cannot apply for that particular job. I mean, what if all companies demanded non-smokers? Sure, there would be a lot more non-smokers, but stuff like that takes away our personal freedoms.[/quote:c746a25e88]


When I was younger, I remember my mother asking me to go to the store for her to buy a pack of cigarettes for her. I dont know the reason why she couldnt go herself. But I refused to go for her and she got mad at me. My way of thinking was, this is your addiction... I'm not gonna contribute to it. I also worked as a cashier once. A pregnant woman wanted to buy a pack of cigarettes... I had reluctanly sold it to her... And after that experience, I shortly quit cuz I didn't like the thoughts of contributing to someone elses habit, let alone, contributing to the health of an unborn child.

Me, the way I see it.. smoking is harmful, it kills, and its addictive... and the cigarette companies are making money off of this. And I fail to see why Cigarette manufacturers should even exist in the first place. So, I guess this is what i'm feeling. That the freedom to want to smoke shouldn't even be an option. And I believe in a smoke free America.

[kboy75]

I had been off for like 5 years but recently picked up the habit again last November while I was in Sydney ona month-long business trip. People smoke like there is no tomorrow over there. Much like europe or Korea... maybe worse.

Anyhow, I first quit when I was a freshman in college. How? I got mono (mononucleosis aka "the kissing disease"). I was just too weak to do anything so I kinda accidentally had to go cold turkey on those bad boys. At the peak I smoked about a pack of reds a day.

But... in Sydney, I was so bombarded by the temptation, and the fact that you can smoke indoors (unlike in Cali), I just caved in and asked my friend for one. That first puff was like that episode of "Friends" where Gunther takes a drag of Chandler's cig and moans, "Oh Dark Mother, once again I suckle at your smokey teat..." Anyhow, I had no tolerance, but I didn't realize it and smoked like a mofo that night. Then I got really sick. Blah. Now I'm in NYC. Like that is helping me to quit, huh? The city that never sleeps and you can smoke indoors... blah!

At least I don't smoke reds anymore. Marlboro or Parliament lights.

[achtungbaby]

[quote:d3e18e60b9="Tapestrybabe"]Me, the way I see it.. smoking is harmful, it kills, and its addictive...[/quote:d3e18e60b9]

Why not prohibit alcohol while we're at it?

[quote:d3e18e60b9="Tapestrybabe"]and the cigarette companies are making money off of this. And I fail to see why Cigarette manufacturers should even exist in the first place.[/quote:d3e18e60b9]

I'll tell you why they exist -- for people like me! For adults who want to be treated as sentient beings, who want to be able to choose what is okay and not okay for themselves.

Believe me, no smoker thinks that it's healthy for them. Those idiotic lawsuits against the tobacco industry were the worst thing that could happen to smokers. It basically told the public, "Hey, I'm a smoker, I'm an idiot who needs to be saved."

We don't need saving!

Would I encourage others to smoke? Of course not. Would I let my kids smoke? Not while they're breathing! But that's all beside the point, for me anyway -- it's that the anti-tobacco hysteria in our country has reached a fever pitch and it's ridiculously hypocritical.

Just like our "war on drugs."

[achtungbaby]

[quote:42e468b80d="kboy75"] I was just too weak to do anything so I kinda accidentally had to go cold turkey on those bad boys. At the peak I smoked about a pack of reds a day.[/quote:42e468b80d]

That's where I'm at right now, give or take a few. I'm actually just a tad terrified because I have to get my wisdom teeth removed soon, and my roommate told me that I wouldnt' be able to smoke for at least a week after. A week!!

[quote:42e468b80d="kboy75"] At least I don't smoke reds anymore. Marlboro or Parliament lights.[/quote:42e468b80d]

Marlboro lights? Nasty. You like that chemical taste? Try Camel lights...much smoother!

[kboy75]

[quote:aa8c67e81a="achtungbaby"] [quote:aa8c67e81a="kboy75"] At least I don't smoke reds anymore. Marlboro or Parliament lights.[/quote:aa8c67e81a]

Marlboro lights? Nasty. You like that chemical taste? Try Camel lights...much smoother![/quote:aa8c67e81a]

Haha... well, I actually like the Marlboro lights. At least it ain't ultra lights like a lot of my friends. Those are like puffing air. I'm not really a Camel guy. Parliaments taste pretty good, and the recessed filter thing is kinda cool. Haha...

[achtungbaby]

My first cigarette was a Marlboro light. I was up visiting friends at Berkeley, and up until that point, had been an ardent anti-smoker, but it bein' college and all, I just said, "what the hell?"

10 million cigarettes later, I'm wondering if it had been a Red, if I'd still be smoking. Anyway.

Have you ever tried Korean cigs? [i:7a0955af48]Those[/i:7a0955af48] are definitely some smokes that will have you suckin on 'em for everything bit of tar you can get.

[thaite]

[quote:7455252c5d="achtungbaby"]That still makes you a smoker and you will suffer of emphysema like the rest of us![/quote:7455252c5d]

No way, dude. How many miles did [i:7455252c5d]you[/i:7455252c5d] run this week? [img:7455252c5d]http://appleaddict.com/images/smiles/aaf_pfft.gif[/img:7455252c5d]

[achtungbaby]

[quote:59caf9a620="buoywonder"]No way, dude. How many miles did [i:59caf9a620]you[/i:59caf9a620] run this week? [img:59caf9a620]http://appleaddict.com/images/smiles/aaf_pfft.gif[/img:59caf9a620][/quote:59caf9a620]

What's running?

[ChinaLama]

Shrug, I don't see the pt to smoking cigs, so I don't. But I may smoke a joint one day just to see what the big deal is.

Oh yeah, and I smoke mad hunniez w/ my ill-G mack daddy pimpin' skillz.

and all you d00ds, i SMOKE YO MOMMAZ.

that's about it.

(i have NO idea wtf i was talking about).

[achtungbaby]

I'm officially [i:138e0df6cc]fucked [/i:138e0df6cc]now. I got my wisdom tooth pulled, and dizzy from medication, but worst of all...I can't smoke for at least three days.

GRR :evil:

[Arex]

[quote:2549c4d905="achtungbaby"]I'm officially [i:2549c4d905]fucked [/i:2549c4d905]now. I got my wisdom tooth pulled, and dizzy from medication, but worst of all...I can't smoke for at least three days.

GRR :evil:[/quote:2549c4d905]

And I imagine your jaw is in no condition to chew on some Nicorette either...

Alex

[achtungbaby]

Actually I don't really feel any pain at all. Maybe the painkillers he gave me are workin overtime or something. I've just felt some slight soreness, but that's it.

I've been tempted to get some Nicorette gum, but shell out $40 because I couldn't get past two days of not-smoking...?

Actually I have a better strategy: I'm going to sleep as much as possible over the next 48 hours, so that when I wake up -- voila! It's Saturday!

[Arex]

Out of curiosity, have you ever considered quitting? Why or why not?

PK actually quit which is ironic because he's the fucker who got me started. Though I still only smoke on a social basis, some would say that's "bad" enough...


Alex

[kasia]

i quit, for the most part.

[Arex]

[quote:c89b046c67="kasia"]i quit, for the most part.[/quote:c89b046c67]

Beginning when?

Alex

[kasia]

[quote:cd41bdce81="Arex"][quote:cd41bdce81="kasia"]i quit, for the most part.[/quote:cd41bdce81]


Beginning when?

Alex[/quote:cd41bdce81]

last month.

[achtungbaby]

[quote:cbe84ea21c="Arex"]Out of curiosity, have you ever considered quitting? Why or why not.[/quote:cbe84ea21c]

I'm just a stubborn lil' bitch, actually. Prior to this whole anti-smoking hysteria that's swept over the country, I was very intent on quitting. I used to talk about it all the time, how I wouldn't be able to smoke forever...

But now that I feel like I'm being told what to do, I want to put two cigs in my mouth, one in both ears and plug up my nostrils too with smokes:)

[princess]

aye ur juss like me....when people tell u what to do u refuse to do it. but seriously ab...if ur not gonna quit then maybe u can cut down a little? o_O

[sxyOptiKali]

I went cold turkey, it can be done my encouragement to yall. it really gets in the way when i do kung-fu so i stepped back and said hmm die early and live always tireder then i could be, morning hacks, and constant madd cravings, or energy, nic mornings, no cravings, and dont get tired during physical activities =P

[achtungbaby]

[quote:27ed382b4f="sxyOptiKali"]...die early and live always tireder then i could be, morning hacks, and constant madd cravings...[/quote:27ed382b4f]

You make it sound like that stuff is [i:27ed382b4f]bad[/i:27ed382b4f].

[sxyOptiKali]

hehehe if ur into that sorta thing....do u like whips and hot wax too? lol i'm kidden, that's just my opinion, for some the pros outweigh the cons but it's always their choice and they shouldnt be MADE no to be able to make that choice (unless of course they're underage :wink: )

[karizma]

>> i wish weed was stuffed into those little cylinders of paper rather than tobacco...*sigh* one can dream right?....i smoke on and off...ill smoke for a month or 2 straight and then stop for a while and do it over again...mostly when school is still in session or when im going through a particularly stressful time...marlboro reds...used to smoke menthols til the fiberglass started seeming less appealing...

[princess]

[quote:a163a4b7c3="karizma"]>> i wish weed was stuffed into those little cylinders of paper rather than tobacco...*sigh* one can dream right?[/quote:a163a4b7c3]

heck ill dream out that too! lol

[achtungbaby]

[quote:a3c69372c3="karizma"]i smoke on and off...ill smoke for a month or 2 straight and then stop for a while and do it over again...[/quote:a3c69372c3]

If you're at the point where you can go without smoking for an entire month, I'd suggest quitting, before it ever gets to the point where you have to have it. Smoking cigs is [i:a3c69372c3]the[/i:a3c69372c3] most addictive thang out there, and it's only a matter of time before something happens to you that causes you to smoke more consistently, and voila! You're where I'm at 8O

[kboy75]

^ yeah i agree, if you're off, then just quit.

plus... i think you really really have to *want* to quit, in order to successfully quit. quitting woul dbe better for me, but i don't really want to, even though i know i should. it's a habit. i really want to quit before i get married and/or start a family though. who knows when that will be.

also, my buddy came back from London with a carton of Marlboro lights for me from the duty-free store... yeah i know! hey they look cool too, they have the two-tone paper, and look like Camel lights. Also on the box, it says, "Tobacco seriously damages health" and "Smoking causes heart disease"...

[img:9479ed26a3]http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jamesmin/marlboro1.jpg[/img:9479ed26a3] [img:9479ed26a3]http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jamesmin/marlboro2.jpg[/img:9479ed26a3]

[Mowgli_Wolf_Boy]

Among my relatives around here, I'm about the only male who doesn't smoke. I think living in L.A. smog is bad enough.

My cousins and uncles smoke like chimneys, then wonder why they can't climb a flight of stairs without wheezing.

[achtungbaby]

I just read a report that young Korean males smoke more than everyone else (combined, probably).

Do any of you smoke -- cigarettes, that is...? Bud is sooo passe What do you smoke...and for how long have you been doing such damage to your bod?

I've been smoking for nearly (gasp!) seven years now.

Jesus Christ...now that I think about it... seven years !

Where the hell are my Reds?!?

[SunWuKong]

marlboro lights
and the occasional indonesian cigarrette (djarum)

been smoking for... jeez has it been 4 years already? or is it 5? at my worst i was smoking half a pack a day. i guess that's not too bad compared to the real addicts. but when i go drinking i can usually finish a pack a day.



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[Arex]

I'll probably smoke more than a few cigs when I go out partying. Other than that, not at all. For me it's a purely social thing.

Alex

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Smoked in high school from junior year upwards. quit two months before i turned legal. but i also still smoke when i go to parties. it's a convenient escape route from people you don't wanna talk to, easy way to get a girl to step outside so you can actually talk, etc. and if you find yourself with no one to talk to cuz your crew disappeared and some other guy got the jump on that cute girl you were gonna talk to, and your options are being:

1) a guy leaning against the bar smoking, or
2) a guy leaning against the bar staring off into space like a loser

taking option #1 is much better. i never really understood though, there's a stigma against drinking alone but not that much against smoking alone.

[tapestrybabe]

When i was like 12 or 13.. my friends, sister and I... we all went in the back woods to have a smoke... you know, to find out what it was all about. We just did it for the fun of it... And like... while i never got hooked... my sister is the one that got addicted... My sister, she's 30 now... and after all those years... she finally quit...

[karizma]

>> my first puff was in 7th grade i believe...it made me dizzy and nauseous i never wanted to smoke again...junior year rolled around and just about everyone around me was smoking, they never pressured me into smoking but i guess it was around me so much i just eased myself into the habit and was soon getting my own packs...i still smoke occasionally now...but not as much...im not addicted though...and id prefer my guys not to smoke...but how often do you find that nowadays?

[Arex]

I had my first cigarette in the 6th grade. We used to go over to my friend's place to smoke since his mom was a smoker and figured that she wouldn't know if we'd been smoking in there. One day, we lost track of time and his mom came home while we were puffing away. We all darted into the bathroom (as if we could possibly hide from her in there) and left our friend screaming "you guys!" When we mustered up the courage to come out from hiding, she sat us down and explained to us that it was a dirty habit and that she wishes she'd never started 'cause now she's hooked. She then told us that she wouldn't tell our parents that time, but if she ever caught us smoking again, she'd blow the whistle on us. I thought I'd never smoke another cigarette again.

I didn't really start puffing even semi-regularly again until law school. Apparently, and silence me for my stereotyping, lots of Korean guys are big on cigarettes. And oddly enough, the majority of Asian guys going through law school were Korean. Thus, I started smoking casually with my close law school buddies. Go figure. So now, while I'm not addicted to the point where I buy cigarettes or puff on my own, I find myself socially smoking whenever an opportunity arises. Doh! Law school people are bad influences...


Alex

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Aug 7 2002, 02:56 AM
it's a convenient escape route from people you don't wanna talk to, easy way to get a girl to step outside so you can actually talk, etc. and if you find yourself with no one to talk to cuz your crew disappeared and some other guy got the jump on that cute girl you were gonna talk to, and your options are being:

1) a guy leaning against the bar smoking, or
2) a guy leaning against the bar staring off into space like a loser
Spoken like a pimp B)

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Arex@Aug 8 2002, 12:48 AM
Apparently, and silence me for my stereotyping, lots of Korean guys are big on cigarettes. And oddly enough, the majority of Asian guys going through law school were Korean.
I bet if you look, you'll find that Koreans have somehow had a hand in all that is wicked in your life.

[noname]

On a side note, in the clubs, it seems that if the better looking a woman is, the higher the probability that she smokes.
Maybe it will be an eternal quest to find a non-smoker with similar activity and musical interests.



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[artsfartsyjanet]

I've never had a cigarette in my life, but occasionally, I'm a second hand smoker whenever I'm at a club. I don't really like doing that either honestly. In St. Louis, smoking is okay in the clubs and restaurants. Actually, 99% of my friends and family members do not smoke. My dad doesn't smoke around me because he knows I despise the activity. When i was eleven, I took the cig out of his mouth one time and stomped on it. I know I must've humiliated him back then in front of his friends, but it was so deeply ingrained in me that it was bad for the health. Anyway, I don't do that anymore. He just goes elsewhere. :rolleyes: My grandfather almost died from smoking. He used to cough up blood. So, he was sent to the emergency room. Then, his lungs were "cleaned out" by this tube that went straight into his lungs via his nostrils. ICK! My grandfather smoked since he was a child. Since the incident, he's stopped cold turkey for over 13 years. Anyway, although I've known some GREAT friends out there who happen to smoke, I honestly can't stay near them too long while they're smoking. I'm sorry and I don't mean to offend you if you smoke, but I hate coming home with the smell of cigarettes in my hair and on my clothes. Aside from the countless numbers of potential health hazards, I hate second hand smoking and I won't be afraid to tell someone to smoke somewhere else if I'm there. It's my air against another smoker's air. If the smoker's smoke gets in the way of my windpipe, I think I ought to tell that person to go elsewhere to smoke or not smoke at all. At a club, I have more tolerance, but it's either I have to sacrifice being with my friends in a public place or not go out with my friends. And most of the places in St. Louis allow smoking. So, I'd rather go out with them than stay home and do nothing. Just my thoughts.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by artsfartsyjanet@Aug 16 2002, 09:07 AM
I'm sorry and I don't mean to offend you if you smoke, but I hate coming home with the smell of cigarettes in my hair and on my clothes.
None taken at all! It's not like it's us who really stink or something...it's the smoke we're bathing in.