Survivor: Fiji Islands (featuring Yau-Man Chan)

[kasia]

hehe. that's my mom's boss. he's chinese-american and made it pretty far in the game (not sure if i should disclose how far). he told us that he was able to last longer than many ppl because he was raised in malaysia and learned how to open coconuts with his bare hands. he survived on coconuts for many days...?

http://www.survivorfever.net/s14_yau_man_chan.html

go yau-man!

[noname]

I know him too, through table tennis

[TB4000]

http://reality-mania.com/reality-tv/2007/01/02/want-to-be-on-survivor-open-casting-call/

Casting call taking place in my city of Gary, Indiana tomorrow from 10am-2pm. If you're in the area and want to try out, better get to the area. I'll be there.

[Faithless]

I'm amazed if that is true about Mr. Chan. He's an oldish guy, and isn't there always that tendency to off the old guys right quick?

[BeTheReds]

Hey, there's only one white girl (unless you're counting the white hispanics.) There's also a Korean adoptee.

[Banana]

Wonder why they got so many Asians on this show now?

It's a complete 180.

[returntosender]

those guys always got something up their sleeves. what might seem good could be a disaster. we'll have to wait and see.

[SunWuKong]

Wonder why they got so many Asians on this show now?

It's a complete 180.

probably because Yul and Becky (mostly Yul) drew a large Asian audience that wasn't there in previous seasons. it's an untapped market, basically. and Yul's performance probably did not decrease white/mainstream audience numbers. but i'm just guessing this is the reason. basically, Asian contestants attracted Asian audience without taking away white audience.

[TB4000]

probably because Yul and Becky (mostly Yul) drew a large Asian audience that wasn't there in previous seasons. it's an untapped market, basically. and Yul's performance probably did not decrease white/mainstream audience numbers. but i'm just guessing this is the reason. basically, Asian contestants attracted Asian audience without taking away white audience.

Would it have if the breakout star was latino or black, though? Because Yul was the one most people were talking about during this past season as the main character pretty much.

[kasia]

anyone watch the first episode?

[returntosender]

I KNEW there was something I was suppose to do on Thursday but I couldn't remember what it was.

[haplesshobo]

probably because Yul and Becky (mostly Yul) drew a large Asian audience that wasn't there in previous seasons. it's an untapped market, basically. and Yul's performance probably did not decrease white/mainstream audience numbers. but i'm just guessing this is the reason. basically, Asian contestants attracted Asian audience without taking away white audience.

What was last season's ratings? Weren't they somewhat disappointing.

I don't know, but wouldn't they have already cast Fiji Island before they had even started to show Survivor Iland?

[returntosender]

The Fiji islands preview was on youtube before the last episode of cook islands even ended so yeah.

[lycheng]

I saw last night's episode and I gotta say the Yau-man is my favorite player right now. He seems to be a genuinely likable guy. Of course I'm a bit biased as he's also a fellow physics geek! (watch his intro video on the Survivor website).

Kasia and Noname: Is he as friendly in real-life as he appears to be?

Unfortunately, one of the more annoying players, IMHO, so far is Sylvia, the architect. She seems quite self-absorbed and too arrogant. When a fellow player asked her what the word "askew" meant (she used it to describe a post in their shelter), she says it's "not orthogonal". :eek:

I'm like, if someone doesn't know the meaning of the word "askew", you think they're going to know "orthogonal"? What a show off!

lycheng

[Seraphfire]

probably because Yul and Becky (mostly Yul) drew a large Asian audience that wasn't there in previous seasons. it's an untapped market, basically. and Yul's performance probably did not decrease white/mainstream audience numbers. but i'm just guessing this is the reason. basically, Asian contestants attracted Asian audience without taking away white audience.
Fiji was filmed while Cook Islands was airing so Mark Burnett had already decided on the cast before knowing the ratings outcome on his racial experiment. So I was really surprised the cast was so diverse, apparently MB only had 1 Survivor on who actually applied, i.e. the rest are recruited.

What is with all these crazy nicknames - Boo, Mookie, Rocky and Dreamz???

Yau Man is a hoot, Survivor fan sites are gushing about him and calling him "The Man" for being the Survivor keeping his tribe alive. People are calling him Cao Boi but without the crazy.

Highlights -

The 19 Survivors were given a crate and the big brawny guys could not open it, even after smashing it on rocks. Yau Man comes over, take the crate and smacks it just twice on the corner and it opens! He claims it's basic physics that the weakest point is the corner.

Yau Man rips open coconuts with his bare hands and makes tea.

[misschopstix]

I watched it last night and Yau Man rocks! I hope they don't ban him. That Rocky wannabe guy gotta go tho!

[kasia]

Kasia and Noname: Is he as friendly in real-life as he appears to be?

yes, very friendly and patient, especially with my mom when she slacks off at work. haha. i hear he's been following this thread as well. glad he has so many fans :)

[returntosender]

i don't think yah man will win, but maybe he'll make it pretty far.

and sylvia, geez, wtf. she seems so unlikable.

[BeTheReds]

After Sylvia comes back, there are 4 Asians in this orange tribe...

They could control it till the merge if they wanted to...

[Banana]

Sylvia needs a kick or a bunch of birdshot in the face.

Your choice.

[SunWuKong]

After Sylvia comes back, there are 4 Asians in this orange tribe...

They could control it till the merge if they wanted to...

without an emphasis on race in this season, i don't think the Asian Alliance will happen.

[BeTheReds]

Did someone hear Rocky call that one girl a little ninja?

[returntosender]

Does anyone remember that survivor forum? I can't remember what it was called, it had like tongue in cheek denigrating type of name. Wish I could remember what it was.

[Tao]

Does anyone remember that survivor forum? I can't remember what it was called, it had like tongue in cheek denigrating type of name. Wish I could remember what it was.

survivorsucks.com

[proazn]

Why isn't anyone talking about Mookie Lee? he seems to be the strongest physically and the leader of his tribe.

[lethal]

Why isn't anyone talking about Mookie Lee? he seems to be the strongest physically and the leader of his tribe.

Why don't you start?

[BeTheReds]

Plus Mookie Lee LOOKS ASIAN! It's such a relief that there are Asians who have Asian names and look ASian. They should invite Timmy Chang to be on survivor.

[AngryABCGirl]

Why isn't anyone talking about Mookie Lee? he seems to be the strongest physically and the leader of his tribe.


I'm not as impressed with Mookie I was with Yul. Mostly it's probably because I found him devestatingly attractive (chiseled face and body and tan and smart) and he stood out more than Mookie, although the last season did frame him as the main character.

In a superficial note, I think overall last season's cast had more physically attractive people in general with movie star looks or at least above looking (but many of them were indeed actors or models) like Yul, Brad(model), Jonathan(actor), Adam, JP, Ozzy(porn star), Sundra (actor), Parvarti(model), Becky, Candice, Rebecca (make-up artist).The cast overall was younger too though.

[returntosender]

there seems to be a lot of tension in this survivors. i couldn't help but feel a lot of friction in the second episode. whereas in cook islands, it seemed very relaxed.

EDIT: Mookie isn't that bad. he's obvoiusly not yul, but who is. Yul is rare, not cause he's asian, but the education, the accomplishments, the strategic minds-that's what makes him a rarity.

But mookie's aight. I think they didn't edit him too well. right now it's mostly on the asian girls, michelle and sylvia in particular. give it time. i think unless mookie fucks up, he's going to make it a few more weeks into the show.

EDIT again: I can't believe they voted Erica off instead of Sylvia. I think that's just stupid.

[SunWuKong]

Sundra was absolutely beautiful, especially when she smiled.

anyway - Mookie. he seems more like a young kid to me. not sure if people will look to him as a leader. but i hope he lasts.

i wonder how long Yau Man will last. he's smart, but he's not very physical at all. even the fat white guy, at least he can probably carry more stuff than Yau Man can.

[AngryABCGirl]

Sundra was absolutely beautiful, especially when she smiled.

anyway - Mookie. he seems more like a young kid to me. not sure if people will look to him as a leader. but i hope he lasts.

i wonder how long Yau Man will last. he's smart, but he's not very physical at all. even the fat white guy, at least he can probably carry more stuff than Yau Man can.

It was hilarious when he was getting annoyed at Sylvia ordering them around to build the house.

[Russ]

there seems to be a lot of tension in this survivors. i couldn't help but feel a lot of friction in the second episode. whereas in cook islands, it seemed very relaxed.To some extent it's understandable though given the harsh conditions at the Ravu camp so far. I don't recall it ever getting this tough during Cook Islands.

EDIT again: I can't believe they voted Erica off instead of Sylvia. I think that's just stupid.And imagine if Sylvia goes on to find the idol that's hidden somewhere at camp before the next vote. Then the rest of the tribe will really regret their vote.

[proazn]

Plus Mookie Lee LOOKS ASIAN! It's such a relief that there are Asians who have Asian names and look ASian. They should invite Timmy Chang to be on survivor.

Timmy Chang is busy practicing football to be the first and only pro asian QB. he got no time to be cracking coconuts.

[proazn]

In the editing, i noticed the person who normally doesn't get alot of airtime but suddenly gets alot of airtime... is the person who gets voted off. So if Mookie get alot of airtime, that's probably his last episode.

[Faithless]

Yau-Man's popular in the Bay Area, I understand.

He was in this doubles table tennis match with a local radio celeb, and lots of people were coming up to the Y-Man for autographs. :cool:

[AngryABCGirl]

This season isn't as cool as last season.

[Faithless]

This season isn't as cool as last season.
Not enough "characters". There's that one loud-mouthed white guy.

Heard a little bit of the last episode, where YM switched-up, and was on a practically all women's team. And they won the immunity challenge.

[AngryABCGirl]

Not enough "characters". There's that one loud-mouthed white guy.

Heard a little bit of the last episode, where YM switched-up, and was on a practically all women's team. And they won the immunity challenge.

Not enough likeable characters at that. I'm rooting for Earl to win right now.

[SunWuKong]

as far as pre-merge went, the team on the shitty island really just sucked. it's difficult to cheer for the underdog when you think the underdog sucks.

now that the merge happened, hopefully it'll be more interesting.

[Faithless]

Another Asian Survivor snags immunity. YM goes one better than Yul by making all those fake immunity idols. :rolleyes:

Merge? SWK, I thought all they did was switch it up.

[AngryABCGirl]

Two Asian survivors with immunity now.

I have to say, Yau-Man is freaking awesome.

[Seraphfire]

Yau Man was awesome at the IC, winning it for Moto pretty much by myself. Archer, spearchucker and the 3rd closest blowdart. What a hoot!

[SunWuKong]

Yau Man is awesome. and a couple of episodes ago they showed Mookie making fun of him at the challenge where they were supposed to throw that ball of fire thing and light this fabric on fire. but Yau Man actually made the shot and then they showed Mookie looking like "oh shit."

i have to say, most of the people on Ravu are asswipes. including Mookie, i don't care if he's a young Asian dude representing on TV. he's a dumbass.

and i can't help but compare how everybody's playing to how Yul was playing last season. right from the start, he was thinking about what is best for the possibility that he actually makes it to the final two. nobody in this season has had that broad a sight yet.

speaking of Yul, he and Becky recently volunteered at this Korean American driven event in DC to push for the Japanese government to recognise WW2 attrocities, specifically on the issue of comfort women. they both spoke to a crowd and also went door to door to try to get support.

[Jin/晋]

Yau Man is awesome. and a couple of episodes ago they showed Mookie making fun of him at the challenge where they were supposed to throw that ball of fire thing and light this fabric on fire. but Yau Man actually made the shot and then they showed Mookie looking like "oh shit."

i have to say, most of the people on Ravu are asswipes. including Mookie, i don't care if he's a young Asian dude representing on TV. he's a dumbass.

and i can't help but compare how everybody's playing to how Yul was playing last season. right from the start, he was thinking about what is best for the possibility that he actually makes it to the final two. nobody in this season has had that broad a sight yet.

speaking of Yul, he and Becky recently volunteered at this Korean American driven event in DC to push for the Japanese government to recognise WW2 attrocities, specifically on the issue of comfort women. they both spoke to a crowd and also went door to door to try to get support.
Mookie is like the anti Asian. Even if you don't care for Asians, don't make fun of an older man for being not as fit. If he uses his immunity idol against Yau-man's future alliance, then the two will cancel out. Asians vs Asians = no Asian left.

As for Yul, I am glad he is using his fame for something. Here is a video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3GkS3ViToGA

[SunWuKong]

Mookie is like the anti Asian. Even if you don't care for Asians, don't make fun of an older man for being not as fit. If he uses his immunity idol against Yau-man's future alliance, then the two will cancel out. Asians vs Asians = no Asian left.

i don't like Mookie, but he's a strong performer on the challenges that require physical endurance and brute strength, so i think he has a great chance of going very far now that he has an immunity idol. judging from what he said, he's going to be selfish with the idol. but as long as he just keeps up the pretense that he's going to share the idol and not betray any alliances he has, he won't end up wasting the idol. the strength of the idol is not in its actual function, but the potential it has to keep an alliance and to swing votes.

[Jin/晋]

i don't like Mookie, but he's a strong performer on the challenges that require physical endurance and brute strength, so i think he has a great chance of going very far now that he has an immunity idol. judging from what he said, he's going to be selfish with the idol. but as long as he just keeps up the pretense that he's going to share the idol and not betray any alliances he has, he won't end up wasting the idol. the strength of the idol is not in its actual function, but the potential it has to keep an alliance and to swing votes.

I agree, he can go far if he uses his brain.

BTW was he behaving so immaturely at the beginning? I think there is a chance that he is faking the tension to make his new tribe think that he won't flip.

[Seraphfire]

Just a word of caution. Never trust the editing. I think it should be illegal to call a show a "reality show" when the editors snip in shot out of sequence and context.

Can't really tell if Mookie is making fun of Yau-Man or not because I know from Survivor Cook Island interviews with contestants that the show will make something where nothing exists. Like the scene of Becky apparently being rude to Jonathan when asked about her sister - all faked.

Personally, I think these shows have enough "real" drama that they shouldn't resort to making crap up.

[SunWuKong]

Dreamz screwed over the "four horsemen". he screwed them hard.

[Faithless]

Sounds like, in the previous episode, Mookie also gave away too early the fact that he had the idol.

[Faithless]

Mookie got cooked. Looks like he was "had" by his pardnah, Alex, there, who put Mookie's name on the vote-out paper.

Yao is smooth. Mookie and Alex admittedly rifling through Yao's stuff, but he didn't blow up. He just got even.

[Faithless]

Poor Yau. They're going to be gunning for him, now.

[kasia]

Poor Yau. They're going to be gunning for him, now.

yeh. we're still rooting for him, but it looks like he might get kicked out the next episode bc he is the biggest threat.

[SunWuKong]

yeh. we're still rooting for him, but it looks like he might get kicked out the next episode bc he is the biggest threat.

they'd have to trick him into believing that they're not voting for him if he is to be voted off the next episode. if he believes they were voting for him, he could play the hidden immunity idol and he would be safe from being voted off. i think it would be a good idea for him to play it anyway, because after he played it, whether he really had to use it or not, the others might not view him as a threat anymore. he's only a threat because he has the idol right now.

[Faithless]

Play the idol and then search like mad for the other hidden one.

[SunWuKong]

that was a close one for Yau Man tonight. i'm glad he played the idol. the girlfriend and i were yelling at him to use it. and really, it's probably a good idea for him to use it either way, because without the idol now, people would not feel that he is a threat. and with Boo having won the immunity challenge twice in a row, he's going to look like a bigger threat.

[Faithless]

Probably most of the people watching the show tonight were yelling at their TV's: "Use the damn idol, Yau! Ussssssse iiiiiiit!"

And they showed that long pause of Yau's. And he keeps thinking about it. And then he uses it.

Yessssss! Woo hoo!

And then he's got that smirk on his face that says it all -- "I think I out foxed you focks, again." And he did.

[WONTONnPHO]

I hope useless ass Cassandra and backstabbing Dreamz don't get into the final 3 :mad:

[SunWuKong]

I hope useless ass Cassandra and backstabbing Dreamz don't get into the final 3 :mad:

i think at least one of them will, unless Boo wins the immunity challenge again. Boo should be the biggest target for the next episode.

[SunWuKong]

Probably most of the people watching the show tonight were yelling at their TV's: "Use the damn idol, Yau! Ussssssse iiiiiiit!"

And they showed that long pause of Yau's. And he keeps thinking about it. And then he uses it.

Yessssss! Woo hoo!

And then he's got that smirk on his face that says it all -- "I think I out foxed you focks, again." And he did.

i think if Stacy hadn't made that comment about her thinking that the votes would be split, Yau wouldn't have used it. but her comment just confirmed Yau's suspicion and sealed her fate.

[rice cracker]

i think at least one of them will, unless Boo wins the immunity challenge again. Boo should be the biggest target for the next episode.

Boo is definitly my pick for the next one voted out.

And I just have to say I love how Earl strokes his beard whenever he is pleased. Fucking hilarious.

[kasia]

they'd have to trick him into believing that they're not voting for him if he is to be voted off the next episode. if he believes they were voting for him, he could play the hidden immunity idol and he would be safe from being voted off. i think it would be a good idea for him to play it anyway, because after he played it, whether he really had to use it or not, the others might not view him as a threat anymore. he's only a threat because he has the idol right now.

haha, good call.

dreamz is so annoying. he has the same IQ level as that rocky guy. it was pretty generous of yau-man to give him that car.

[Faithless]

i think if Stacy hadn't made that comment about her thinking that the votes would be split, Yau wouldn't have used it. but her comment just confirmed Yau's suspicion and sealed her fate.
She got duped. It was priceless.

She unfortunately laid out the plot and her little temporary alliance must have thought, "WTF!"

Because Yau definitely had the look of, "WTF!"

I think it's sad how dumb Stacey and Mookie ended up being. :frown:

[AngryABCGirl]

She got duped. It was priceless.

She unfortunately laid out the plot and her little temporary alliance must have thought, "WTF!"

Because Yau definitely had the look of, "WTF!"

I think it's sad how dumb Stacey and Mookie ended up being. :frown:

they should get together and have babies

[Faithless]

they should get together and have babies
I feel sorry for her in one sense -- she got eaten up by bugs. Her cute face was just all bug bumped. :frown:

[SunWuKong]

I feel sorry for her in one sense -- she got eaten up by bugs. Her cute face was just all bug bumped. :frown:

oh i thought it was acne.

[WONTONnPHO]

and dirt:biggrin:

[Banana]

Least they broke the smart stereotype!

[WONTONnPHO]

Dammit , I knew Dreamz wasn't to be trusted :mad:

[Faithless]

That was some of the weirdest ranting by a Survivor jury ever.

Yau did what he could to secure a spot, but you could tell it wasn't going to happen. He gave Dreamz a chance to be honorable, but Dreamz flubbed it.

There's no way Dreamz was going to win the million. He just denied Yau the chance at it.

Earl should have voted out Cassandra, if he was truly Yau's alli.

[Dimeron]

Despite the fact Yau Man didn't win, he represented Asian pretty well IMO. None of the other Asians really harmed the Asian image (too much), although Stacy is still a bitch and Mookie is still an idiot.

Which is more than what can be said about Dreamz and the Black image. Which just reaffirmed the stereotype that poor Black man cannot be trusted.

[younggiftedandblack]

Earl should have voted out Cassandra, if he was truly Yau's alli.
That would have been a dumb move. If Yau went to the final three more than likely he would've won or at least forced a close vote. By bringing in the two people that everyone on the jury pretty disliked, Earl guaranteed himself the win.

[AngryABCGirl]

Earl played the game, and played it good.

[Seraphfire]

I knew "Dreamz" couldn't think more than one step ahead but what really bothered me was that at the reunion show he basically continued to deny that he changed his mind and made excuses that it was just a game. And at the Early Show interview he continues to claim that "he left his honor at home."

I know Yau and everyone else was trying to taking the higher ground but at what point do you act like a parent and tell him to cut the crap. "Dreamz" is either a pathological liar or in less technical jargon, a pathological "I will justify my actions with whatever reality I can think of."

Boo's Tribal Council statements were the closest I saw to anyone really trying to tell "Dreamz" that he needed to shape up. Of course, it didn't work, at Reunion "Dreamz" was still so ignorant to think "We're all friends right." Er, no...

The thing is, we've all met people like that in our lives. They aren't mean people at heart but complete trainwrecks that simply leave a path of destruction. I read someone termed him as having the emotional maturity of a 12 yr old and I think that is apt. Can't keep coddling him like Cassandra and expect him to improve himself.

And this dude works with children? I'd be petitioning the school to fire him ASAP. Cheerleaders have competitions, so by "Dreamz" logic, it's another game so lie, cheat, and steal your way to win.

[Faithless]

That would have been a dumb move. If Yau went to the final three more than likely he would've won or at least forced a close vote. By bringing in the two people that everyone on the jury pretty disliked, Earl guaranteed himself the win.
We can say this in hindsight, but you never know.

Earl, be an ad man, could have made a pitch to the jury, even with Yau at his side, and swung enough votes to Earl's side.

There were things about Yau that I think people didn't like -- maybe a certain smugness.

*** *** ***

Yul on Yau: (http://www.contracostatimes.com/columns/ci_5881510)

Still [Yul], he's intrigued by the exploits of another Asian-American contestant from the East Bay: Yau-Man Chan.

"When you first see him, you think: Here's a guy who could feed into the stereotypes. A socially awkward, quiet and withdrawn nerdy Asian-American man," he says. "But actually, he's a very interesting guy -- engaging and intelligent and someone that people love to be around."

[WONTONnPHO]

Man , I'm proud of these Bay Area asians on Survivor! I'd definitely say wussup to them if I happen to see them around. BTW off topic , did anybody see Survivor 5 Thailand when Shii Anh ate the chicken liver, heart, and neck and her caucasian tribemates were grossed out by it? I thought it was pretty funny :biggrin:

[BeTheReds]

Man , I'm proud of these Bay Area asians on Survivor! I'd definitely say wussup to them if I happen to see them around. BTW off topic , did anybody see Survivor 5 Thailand when Shii Anh ate the chicken liver, heart, and neck and her caucasian tribemates were grossed out by it? I thought it was pretty funny :biggrin:

Then they all had to eat bugs later. Dumbasses.

[BeTheReds]

AWW! I haven't yet seen the episode where Yau gets voted off. But reading this thread... auughh! Dreamz didn't give him the neclace? What a dick! OMG! He at least owes Yau the market price of whatever car that was..

[VV o n g B a]

he doesn't owe yau money of any kind as that wasn't part of the deal. he did however swear on his son's LIFE...

[Faithless]

he doesn't owe yau money of any kind as that wasn't part of the deal. he did however swear on his son's LIFE...
That should be a lesson to people:

Whenever you see someone swearing on some other family member's life, that means the other guy's about to get screwed. :rolleyes:

[Seraphfire]

Dreamz swore to god, spoke of his word, his example to his son, etc. And he did this in front of tribemates and also in confessionals where he would have nothing to hide. And still at the end of it all he decided to keep the truck.

I think the reason even hardcore Survivor fans are angry with him is the hypocrisy. If he claimed on every confessional he was just playing Yau-Man the whole time, they be OK with that. But we know he was lying at Tribal Council, lying live on national TV and is still lying in every interview to this day. That hypocrisy is fueling a lot of well deserved hate for him. Because people like Dreamz will use anything to justify their behavior, it was a game, it was a full moon, etc.

"I am man of my word, I am Dreamz!" BAWAHAHAHA

I have no sympathy for him, people like him are pure trainwrecks.

As for Yau-Man, he gave him the truck not entirely out of the goodness of his heart. But in letting him keep it and his magnimity is completely from the goodness of his heart.

Great representation, great example, great individual!

[WONTONnPHO]

I'm glad Boo tore Dreamz a new one at tribal council

[SunWuKong]

some of you seem to be kind of angry that Dreamz didn't live up to his word. but shit, for a chance at a million dollars, it was to his strategic advantage to keep the idol. yeah there's a moral consideration, but Yau Man was basically a complete stranger, and hell, he was the competition. i don't know about anybody else, but i don't really give a shit if i lied to a stranger, especially if it means i might win a million dollars. and most contestants on any season have lied and gone back on their word anyway. we can't expect everybody to play like Yul did last season. Dreamz's mistake was probably in taking the deal in the first place. he shouldn't have made that promise.

honestly i expected Dreamz to keep the idol. i would have been surprised if he actually gave it to Yau Man. the only thing i didn't understand was, how come it never occured to Dreamz, Cassandra, or even Boo that Earl would be their strongest competitor in the final three? i mean, ok, Jeff Probst asked the jury weeks later as an afterthought who would have voted for Yau Man, and there were six people. but without the benefit of hindsight, i honestly would have thought that Earl would be a bigger competitor in final three than Yau Man would have been. Earl hasn't made any enemies, he wasn't even voted for once. but Yau Man had been voted for, and he kept the fact that he had a hidden idol from his allies until he was forced to tell them. i would have thought that Yau Man had more enemies or animosity against him than Earl garnered, and i would have felt that Earl would be stronger competition. if i were Dreamz or Cassandra, i definitely would have voted out Earl instead of Yau Man during final four.

[Seraphfire]

Hey Guys and Gals, check this out. The real Yau-Man is on this forum and answering all sorts of questions. Pretty cool:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2475395&perpage=40&pagenumber=20#post327803323

[Seraphfire]

some of you seem to be kind of angry that Dreamz didn't live up to his word. but shit, for a chance at a million dollars, it was to his strategic advantage to keep the idol.
I think some people are mad that Dreamz could even think he would win a million after screwing Yau in front of the jury (and he probably had no chance even if the deal was never made.) So it was stupid on so many levels since he could have walked away with 4th place, his honor and probably have Oprah calling him up and maybe even giving him a million, etc. I can live with him being stupid.

But as I mentioned before, I think people are mostly outraged at his continued hypocrisy. Game is long over but yet he continues to lie and lie and he probably believes his own revisionist lying.

[rice cracker]

Yau Man visits Something Awful forums? Is he a goon?

[Seraphfire]

Yau Man visits Something Awful forums? Is he a goon?

I heard some people bought him the account and encouraged him to post there.

Also check out what Yau said on this site:
http://www.truckforyau.com/

This site was originally designed with the intention of undoing the injustice done against Yau-Man by Dreamz by collecting funds to buy a new truck for Yau-Man. However, when Yau-Man found out about the site, he sent me the following email, which he gave me permission to place here:

"... as for the donation, I think it would a greater good for you to use the money make a contribution to charity. While the million-dollar win would have certainly changed my life, I am quite comfortable in my present economic condition. I do thank your for your generosity and kindness.


As for Dreams, I think Shakespeare said it best in "Julius Caesar" Act 3, Scene 2 with Mark Anthony's soliloquy: Friends, Romans .... Etc, " The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones. Dreamz will have to live this decision down for the rest of his life. I wish him no ill will and for his sake hope that he can do enough good to make amends for this "slight" moral infraction committed in front of 20 million people.

As for me, yes, I did sign up for this show to win a Million Dollars - for what other reasons would I want to go through so much pain and suffering? Yes, it a game. Yes, I want that million as much as any other contestants. But yet, it is very important to me to be able to face my teenage daughters when I come home, with or without the million, and be able to look them in the eyes and say to them without hesitation or reservations, "When you watch the show, you will be proud of your dad; you will not be embarrassed to ask your friends and schoolmates to watch each and every episode with you." In playing a game where there are no rules - a game which involve living in a situation without moral codes, how I think my daughters will see me became my moral compass."

My two charities are the American Lung Cancer Association - my mother is suffering from lung cancer and has just gone through radiation therapy. She was able to travel with me to the Reunion Show last Sunday. The other is the National Collegiate Table Tennis Association which promotes the sport of table tennis at the Collegiate level."

[SunWuKong]

I heard some people bought him the account and encouraged him to post there.

i didn't know it costs money to register there.

[BeTheReds]

I think some people are mad that Dreamz could even think he would win a million after screwing Yau in front of the jury (and he probably had no chance even if the deal was never made.) So it was stupid on so many levels since he could have walked away with 4th place, his honor and probably have Oprah calling him up and maybe even giving him a million, etc. I can live with him being stupid.

But as I mentioned before, I think people are mostly outraged at his continued hypocrisy. Game is long over but yet he continues to lie and lie and he probably believes his own revisionist lying.

I agree, I wouldn't be stupid enough to make the deal in the first place, because I wouldn't want to look bad on TV. Of course, simply by being on survivor, there would be plenty of reasons for my dishonesty to shine forth in other areas, but I wouldn't make a deal like that. I'd break an alliance, and lie about who I am voting for, even if it was someone I'd ridden all the way to the end, but if someone were to give me their hard earned prize in exchange for immunity, I wouldn't do it unless I was SURE that I'd lose the entire game, and then I'd live up to my word.

Breaking promises within the confines of survivor is okay in almost any other circumstance.

[thaite]

I thought it was pretty funny when at the reunion show Yau said Dreamz needed to get some education. Yeah, like he's really gonna do that. I expect Dreamz to end up like one of those lottery winners who is even more broke after a year.

[Seraphfire]

I thought it was pretty funny when at the reunion show Yau said Dreamz needed to get some education. Yeah, like he's really gonna do that. I expect Dreamz to end up like one of those lottery winners who is even more broke after a year.
That's the sad part. I think Dreamz has the emotional maturity of a child which is why people can find him charming and infuriating at the same time. Seriously, I think many people with his background (trauma, i.e. homelessness at a young age with no male role model) lack emotional development.

He's had what six months to contemplate what he did, 2 months of watching the show to see it unfold, to see himself swear to god, his word, his child and then goes onto the reunion show with the same sorry excuse? He's a trainwreck for sure.

[hooligan]

Somethingawful just about the best forum on the net. Register and cough up the 10 bux.

[mr. x]

Somethingawful just about the best forum on the net. Register and cough up the 10 bux.

Are you protected in the house?