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mrazntre

11-21-2006, 12:16 AM

BigLew

11-21-2006, 12:32 AM

Sorry bro love women too much. You just have to learn how to interpret womanese and undo the voodoo they do on you. Then you won't feel so much like doo doo.

Where the fuck is face? Who the hell scared face away?

mrazntre

11-21-2006, 12:34 AM

womanese can suck my CACK.

Flow to Live

11-21-2006, 12:36 AM

Girls also have cooties.

DragonKnight

11-21-2006, 12:57 AM

Heh, how about this "older brother" or "good friend" bullshit they always keep copping out all the time? Or this stoooooooopid complaining about not being able to find the perfect guy.

Her: "I wish I could find a good man." :frown:
Him: "There's one right in front of you." :rolleyes:
Her: "But you're like an older brother to me."
Him: :mad:

BigLew

11-21-2006, 01:27 AM

Don't become their friend it's that simple.

DragonKnight

11-21-2006, 08:18 AM

Don't become their friend it's that simple.
Easier said than done.

SunWuKong

11-21-2006, 08:34 AM

I'm at the point where I'm just fed up with women.

are you going to start playing for the other team?

TB4000

11-21-2006, 08:56 AM

Carol(Helen Hunt) - How do you write for women so well?

Melvin(Jack Nicholson) - First I think of a man, then I take away reason and accountability.

- As Good As It Gets

DragonKnight

11-21-2006, 02:06 PM

Carol(Helen Hunt) - How do you write for women so well?

Melvin(Jack Nicholson) - First I think of a man, then I take away reason and accountability.

- As Good As It Gets
Heh, the fun part of having reason and accountability is that it makes you the best friend to women...and nothing else. Irony, gotta love it. :wink:

BigLew

11-21-2006, 02:27 PM

Easier said than done.

Nonsense! Ye of such little will power.

DragonKnight

11-21-2006, 10:49 PM

Nonsense! Ye of such little will power.
Man, you must be a big pimp in your world. I give you much props. *clap, clap*

BigLew

11-21-2006, 10:51 PM

Just hate to see yall so down on yourselves.

DragonKnight

11-21-2006, 11:04 PM

Just hate to see yall so down on yourselves.
Uh-huh...alrighty.

So yeah, about all these fuckin women that like playin these stupid games...

BigLew

11-21-2006, 11:06 PM

Play your own games then.

mrazntre

11-21-2006, 11:12 PM

are you going to start playing for the other team?

nah, i'm not going to follow in your footsteps.

DragonKnight

11-21-2006, 11:22 PM

Play your own games then.
Why? That shit is stupid.

BigLew

11-21-2006, 11:33 PM

Why? That shit is stupid.

SOOOOOO!

DragonKnight

11-22-2006, 12:34 AM

SOOOOOO!
Well, hurry up and provide a good reason why these stupid games should be played? Besides getting some and making total jackasses of one another. :wink:

Tao

11-22-2006, 01:16 AM

Arex

11-22-2006, 01:19 AM

Easier said than done.You've just gotta put your foot down at some point. If you're interested in a girl, and she tries to pull that "let's just be friends" shit, tell her you have enough friends and move along. Because you do (have enough friends). There's no point giving her the time of day, hoping that she'll someday have a change of heart. The fact of the matter is she most likely won't because she's getting everything she wants out of the relationship (i.e., a platonic friendship, someone reliable she can always complain to, etc.). But your wants are of equal importance in any relationship. Force the issue and if it doesn't work out, so be it. Stop wasting your time being a stand in and find someone that's willing to give you the relationship that you want.

lethal

11-22-2006, 02:01 AM

nah, i'm not going to follow in your footsteps.

say what?

DragonKnight

11-22-2006, 08:00 AM

You've just gotta put your foot down at some point. If you're interested in a girl, and she tries to pull that "let's just be friends" shit, tell her you have enough friends and move along. Because you do (have enough friends). There's no point giving her the time of day, hoping that she'll someday have a change of heart. The fact of the matter is she most likely won't because she's getting everything she wants out of the relationship (i.e., a platonic friendship, someone reliable she can always complain to, etc.). But your wants are of equal importance in any relationship. Force the issue and if it doesn't work out, so be it. Stop wasting your time being a stand in and find someone that's willing to give you the relationship that you want.
I actually ended quite a few female friendships already. It just gets frustrating when every...and I mean EVERY...new girl I meet just ends up friends. Then there's all this bullshit games women wanna play. C'mon there's actually guys that exist that want to have a real relationship and maybe...just maybe...*gasp!*...settle down.

DragonKnight

11-22-2006, 08:17 AM

just broke up with the gf like a month ago. agree with sy here, women totally don't know wtf they want. And alotta women expect you to wait on them hand and foot, like your sole purpose in life is to fulfill their spoiled inner child's every need and whim. and if you don't, they say they think you've changed.... yeah i changed, i realized i didn't want to be a sucker anymore. fuck girls and their whole "oh i wish i can just find one decent guy" spiel.
And the fun part is when you actually become that sucka and fulfill their spoiled inner child. Then all of a sudden they become bored with yo ass and find an excuse to cheat on ya.

Oh and isn't it amusing when girls who complain about the lack of decent men keep falling for the same crackhead bad boy? And what's up with calling yourself an independent woman and then all of a sudden wishing you can end up with someone who graduated from a very good college, makes at least 6 figures, and is at least 5 inches taller than yourself?

I'll admit, one of these days I'll actually run into a girl who actually makes sense. Maybe...even get into a great relationship with her. But until then, I find it very amusing and quite therapeutic pointing out certain shit that really...doesn't make much sense. :wink:

deez nuts

11-22-2006, 09:04 AM

Who wants in?

I'm at the point where I'm just fed up with women.
1) they don't seem to know what they want
2) they're contradictory
3) they can't make up their minds
4) they play too many damn games even when they say they hate playing games
5) they always seem to be stuck on their last boyfriends even though they claim to want better

1) they don't seem to know what they want

i don't really care what she wants. i just know what i want. if she doesn't have what i want and/or has very little to offer me, i leave. it's not my job to know what she wants. she should know what she wants.

points 2-4 are pretty much an extension of point 1.

point 5 is not an issue since i'm pretty much that last boyfriend that she's still stuck on when she's dating someone new. yes, i am that awesome.

I think I'm bitter, or at the very least I'm approaching the stage of *bitter*

let's go kill some hookers!

Atealtha

11-22-2006, 10:59 AM

I think deez nutz' avatar is why he is so comfortable with himself.

deez nuts

11-22-2006, 11:32 AM

i am awesome

BigLew

11-22-2006, 02:30 PM

Well, hurry up and provide a good reason why these stupid games should be played? Besides getting some and making total jackasses of one another. :wink:

That's basically it...

robotic

11-22-2006, 10:09 PM

Easier said than done.

never approach them.
mind tricks are the way to go, brotha!
mind tricks through eye tricks? yeah, something like that.
subtle gestures of interest seem to arouse the most attention.

Napoleon Chynamite

11-23-2006, 01:44 PM

just broke up with the gf like a month ago. agree with sy here, women totally don't know wtf they want. And alotta women expect you to wait on them hand and foot, like your sole purpose in life is to fulfill their spoiled inner child's every need and whim. and if you don't, they say they think you've changed.... yeah i changed, i realized i didn't want to be a sucker anymore. fuck girls and their whole "oh i wish i can just find one decent guy" spiel.

Wimmenz are just like men in that they want to be admired, accepted, revered, and loved in society, etc. The available pathways and outlets toward receiving such acceptance and admiration are different for both men and women. When much of the bullshit is cut away, men and women are very much the same creature in their repeated selfish search for fulfillment.

Biologically speaking, other than this, men are more visually-biased and women are more emotionally-biased. A lotta times it's not so much the fact that women don't know what they want, it's just that they (like men) are taught to express their desires for certain things over others due to how they were taught and brought up.

Anyway, I will never completely understand how women work, but then again I don't really understand how my Nintendo Wii works either. But that doesn't stop me from playing it xD

Happy Turkey Day~

robotic

11-23-2006, 02:53 PM

Wimmenz are just like men in that they want to be admired, accepted, revered, and loved in society, etc. The available pathways and outlets toward receiving such acceptance and admiration are different for both men and women. When much of the bullshit is cut away, men and women are very much the same creature in their repeated selfish search for fulfillment.

well said, hube, well said! *pats back*
i've never been in a direct relationship with anyone before, although i've had boys as friends. and when you begin to compare the girls and boys you know around you... you immediately notice this contrast (although its true that it differs from person to person). girls, towards girls they know, take every opportunity to hug, gossip about intimate material, and be playful. while most boys, towards boys they know, show their love or acknowledgement towards each other in a much more subtle way.

why do you hear so many women say that they can never find the 'right guy'? girls generally tend to be more sensitive to gestures, actions and words. a lot more. and when you get a boy and a girl get together, the stereotypical traits clash. the girl often expects the boy to acknowledge her in an elevated manner (because she's already used to intimacy and loud expressions of love) while the boy may expect an entirely different kind of acknowledgement. and these traits gradually evolve to bridge and seperate the two individuals.

mrazntre

11-23-2006, 02:58 PM

mrazntre

11-23-2006, 03:00 PM

Wimmenz are just like men in that they want to be admired, accepted, revered, and loved in society, etc. The available pathways and outlets toward receiving such acceptance and admiration are different for both men and women. When much of the bullshit is cut away, men and women are very much the same creature in their repeated selfish search for fulfillment.

Biologically speaking, other than this, men are more visually-biased and women are more emotionally-biased. A lotta times it's not so much the fact that women don't know what they want, it's just that they (like men) are taught to express their desires for certain things over others due to how they were taught and brought up.

Anyway, I will never completely understand how women work, but then again I don't really understand how my Nintendo Wii works either. But that doesn't stop me from playing it xD

Happy Turkey Day~

yeah, but your Wii doesn't decide one day, oh i'm not gonna work today. or it doesn't do stupid stuff to screw with you on purpose.

Tao

11-23-2006, 04:39 PM

Wimmenz are just like men in that they want to be admired, accepted, revered, and loved in society, etc.

lemme break it down for you hube. a lot of women are needy and attention seeking. especially the "traditional" ones who want "a man that can take care of them"...translation? She's a lazy spoiled brat who constantly needs compliments and attention, or otherwise she's done with your ass. that's the truth.

and that's fine if she does the same for you. but guess what? because she's "just a girl" and you're supposed to be the man that brings home the bacon and takes care of the business, she will not give you the same attention and obedience she expects from you.

yeah yeah yeah, some of you are grinding your battle ax muttering to yourself not all of us girls are like that...that's so one sided, what a sexist pig, yeah i know not all of you are like that. again if i truely believed all of you were i'd switch teams right now. but you have to admit, especially the "traditional" ones, they are especially bad about this. just cause i care about you doesn't mean you should stop acting like a grown ass adult and treat the guy like your personal chauffeur/assistant/psychiatrist. I'm tired of girls and their sorry excuses. fuck relationships, from now until i'm 40 it's booty calls all the way.

mrazntre

11-23-2006, 06:03 PM

I just want a piece of some good ass.

Napoleon Chynamite

11-23-2006, 07:13 PM

lemme break it down for you hube. a lot of women are needy and attention seeking. especially the "traditional" ones who want "a man that can take care of them"...translation? She's a lazy spoiled brat who constantly needs compliments and attention, or otherwise she's done with your ass. that's the truth.

and that's fine if she does the same for you. but guess what? because she's "just a girl" and you're supposed to be the man that brings home the bacon and takes care of the business, she will not give you the same attention and obedience she expects from you.

Yea. A lot of girls take advantage of their prescribed role to get what they want (attention, drama, praise, money, etc.). As do guys, who are often no stranger to hypocrisy or plotting to get into a girl's pants using whatever tricks of the trade they can get their hands on. That's all I was tryin' to say~ It's nothing really specifically wrong with women as it is more about human nature and human reaction to sociological influences.

It doesn't surprise me that the more traditional girls you described are better at playing the game of using what they've been taught all along to get their way because they are also the ones that subscribe most to traditional imagery and gender roles. I have no doubt that traditional men have their fair share of detractors among women, and in fact I'm sure you've heard the complaints from female friends about men who have too much of a conservative outlook on things.

Maybe it's just me specifically, but I can't really see this type of women shunning as anything constructive just because, honestly speaking, while there have been plenty of instances where girls used me to achieve their ends, I've done the same amount of manipulation in the opposite direction (if not more) in the past even though for the most part I'd like to think of myself as a nice guy. Nobody is spotless.

I'm tired of girls and their sorry excuses. fuck relationships, from now until i'm 40 it's booty calls all the way.

I think it's a vicious cycle, because everyone starts out fairly idealistic and naive about relationships until they get scarred or burned, and then they turn jaded and cynical and this type of jaded cynicism reflects in how they act in turn within future relationships and makes newbies bitter or frustrated about the whole dating game as well. Pretty soon everyone thinks that the best way to succeed is to just protect one's heart and go for the ass or dollar bills. Sucks that it has to be like this because people are selfish in the first place.

On that note~

http://www.becomeaplayer.com

You can thank me later.

BigLew

11-23-2006, 07:22 PM

I just want a piece of some good ass.

You might have to settle for what you can get and work your way back up.

Napoleon Chynamite

11-23-2006, 07:25 PM

I just want a piece of some good ass.

Yea, but see, isn't this basically the same as all those women that are just out for money and status and attention? It's just how we're wired, until we get to that level where we're mature enough or ready for a relationship that goes beyond superficial or primal wants. And I'll be honest with you. I'm not there yet, lol.

And the Wii thing, yea, bad analogy, because at least the Wii is predictable, but yea, that was a joke...xD

BigLew

11-23-2006, 07:27 PM

Here's the truth, we want women to love us and women want us to give them a reason to love us. Most of the time, the men screw it up by being a pansy and forgetting to "be the man". That's not the same as being macho or overbearing or anything like that.

deez nuts

11-23-2006, 07:35 PM

get yourself a practice chick and learn to "love" women again.

Tao

11-23-2006, 08:46 PM

I think it's a vicious cycle, because everyone starts out fairly idealistic and naive about relationships until they get scarred or burned, and then they turn jaded and cynical and this type of jaded cynicism reflects in how they act in turn within future relationships and makes newbies bitter or frustrated about the whole dating game as well. .

i agree in general that it is a vicious cycle of use and being used. but there should be a distinction made as to what everyone's expectations of each other and themselves should be in a relationship. i think if that was clear in the beginning, there'd be a lot less hurt. this applies to what happened to me and my ex, she really didn't know what she wanted, as such, I got hurt. it's a raw deal, but i've learned what i wanted as a result. so in that, we all have a lot to learn, it's just some of us have unrealistic expectations.....i guess that's what i'm really complaining about, people with unrealistic expectations, not really girls per se. my apologies for offending the chicks that are cool.

eos

11-24-2006, 10:10 AM

this thread has the wrong name.
it should be called "bitter single people club"
and all this bitterness...it really makes you all an attractive bunch of people. i congratulate you.

Golden Monkey

11-24-2006, 12:08 PM

this thread has the wrong name.
it should be called "bitter single people club"
and all this bitterness...it really makes you all an attractive bunch of people. i congratulate you.

OK, little Miss Wonderful why don't you instruct these guys in how to better get along with women?

What's the secret because they can't find it.

SunWuKong

11-24-2006, 12:16 PM

just drink lots of alcohol. it'll solve all your problems.

deez nuts

11-24-2006, 12:19 PM

going to titty bars and hiring a hooker every now and then helps numb the pain too.

edit: oh and cocaine. better yet snort cocaine off a naked hooker's ass.

eos

11-24-2006, 03:19 PM

OK, little Miss Wonderful why don't you instruct these guys in how to better get along with women?

What's the secret because they can't find it.

i'm not going to waste my time.
but complaining and crying on here isn't really helping any, now is it? and if you keep running into situations like this, then maybe, just maybe, there might be something wrong with you and not the person you're going out with. you can't change other people, but you sure as hell can change yourself.

DragonKnight

11-25-2006, 07:36 AM

i'm not going to waste my time.
but complaining and crying on here isn't really helping any, now is it? and if you keep running into situations like this, then maybe, just maybe, there might be something wrong with you and not the person you're going out with. you can't change other people, but you sure as hell can change yourself.
Interesting as last I've heard, girls have complained in the past of guys who don't express their feelings well enough. Must be one of those "games" we have to participate in. :biggrin:

As for changing one's self...sure. I'm sure plenty of guys here can convert themselves from being nice guys with good honest lives to being the sexist, alpha-males this society wants us to be. I'm certain the rare, quality men of this society look forward to making more than she does, ensuring that she takes his last name rather than hypenating or *gasp*...him taking hers, keeping her home as a breeding cow while he make the bread, keeping another fine piece of ass to the side since she'll just have to accept it due to her growing independence on the guy, insulting her on a daily basis while reminding her where her place is, and finally, when her ass gets too old...divorce her to the curb to go for a younger piece of ass. :wink:

The reality of it all is that nice guys don't do that. In fact, they tend to stay nice to the very end. But hell, if they can't vent about shit every so often...well, that's some fucked up shit, now isn't it? :rolleyes:

eos

11-25-2006, 10:18 AM

DragonKnight

11-25-2006, 10:53 AM

robotic

11-25-2006, 01:17 PM

i don't believe in nice guys. there is no such thing. just as there is no such thing as a nice girl. because nice people don't sit around and rant and rave about how evil everyone else is. bitter people do that.

haha. a nice human being should be an oxymoron.

but then again, in such a bitter world it's hard to believe there are inherently kind spirits :cool:

Azn Retribution

12-05-2006, 08:41 AM

i don't believe in nice guys. there is no such thing. just as there is no such thing as a nice girl. because nice people don't sit around and rant and rave about how evil everyone else is. bitter people do that.
meh but what do i know? i'm in a relationship now so i'm not stewing in my single asian female who's almost 30 juices. but if i ever become single again, who knows? i might start the men hating club thread.

So caled "Nice guys" are just guys who haven't found their inner asshole/bastard yet.

I think Scrubs had it best when they said that all people are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.

I'm single but not bitter.
probably because im dating.
nothing gets you over being bitter than finding other womens.
lots of fish in the sea to get hung up over one.... (yea there's always "the one who got away" but telling yourself this affirmation makes ya feel better)

bismarck

01-27-2007, 09:49 PM

hey, no hooker killing. You just haven't met the real women yet, the ones who know themselves and would treat their awesome man like he deserved. Guys I know have said nice guys finish last, but it isn't true; only with the wrong people, which I guess is many.
Games aren't so bad, I guess. I mean, they are bad, but they're so widespread, their sting is much less. For me, it's like telling the truth. People get mad at me when I'm honest, so I learned to euphemise to save some pain, and we all leave happy albeit delusional. Ladies ignore you when you're a good guy; hold back a little and don't give them what they want. Kind of like The Game, I think it's called.

Napoleon Chynamite

01-27-2007, 11:37 PM

Nice guys don't finish last. Boring-ass guys that do whatever a girl wants and hang on their every word finish last. Unfortunately, a lot of nice guys fit into this category when they don't have to. At least an asshole guy has that unpredictable and mysterious aura about him. Not saying it's right, it's just the way it is and how attraction works.

On that note, I agree that a lotta women don't know what they want, play games, lead certain guys on only to give them the snub and leave him wondering at best and broken-hearted at worst, twist things around with illogical arguments and dish out guilt trips, are dishonest and come across as more sincere than they really are, etc. But I think guys are just as bad with our own tendencies. It's kinda part of being human.

DragonKnight

01-28-2007, 11:10 AM

^Makes staying single a blessing. :biggrin:

pikachupacabra

01-28-2007, 01:37 PM

Nice guys aren't nice guys. Nice guys are actually sleazy emotionally predatory assholes.

http://www.somethingpositive.net/arch/sp02142004.gif

tripostrophe

01-28-2007, 05:46 PM

ugh no misogyny please.

Napoleon Chynamite

01-28-2007, 08:24 PM

Alright fine I'll bite. I realize this will get me castrated but what the hell. The thing that bugs me the most about women is something I already mentioned earlier - you know how they say it's impossible to win an argument with a woman? I hate how true this is.

Whenever I get into an argument with a girl or even if it's just a female friend and things get heated, I hate how somehow she can put words into my mouth and make it look like I'm the idiot to even suggest that I never said those words. I also hate how she can make the most irrational statements in the world and infer things randomly without the slightest shred of logic or credibility and still make it seem like everything is okay and that there was absolutely nothing wrong with her line of reasoning. I hate how when she knows she's wrong or has messed up somewhere that she is able to suggest that we stop the argument and attribute it to something such as my stubbornness, stupidity, and/or unwillingness to admit defeat. I'm not even going to get into how she likes to bring up tangents and other issues that have absolutely nothing to do with what we are talking about to use against me. And she will do all the aforementioned with a straight face. And finally, what I hate the most is how it doesn't really matter afterward who was right or wrong because ultimately you're always the one that ends up in the doghouse/on the couch/nookie-less anyway because she'll be pissed because of the argument. Of course, you may be pissed too, but you're never in any position to be dishing out any punishment or repercussions.

Before someone like Faithless (sorry guy I couldn't resist ^_~) suggests that what I just described is akin to talking with Campus Christian Fellowship recruiters at the local university, for the record I am well aware that women have just as many complaints about men, and I'm also aware that all women don't do this. So please don't gather up your pitchforks and go for my testicles just yet. Also, I'm not inferring that women are incapable of intelligent debate, reasoning or logic, because quite frankly, I often wonder whether they know exactly what they are doing and are just doing what they do on purpose because they know they can get away with it; as far as I'm concerned, it's also partly our fault for putting up with it on a repeated basis - of course they're gonna keep doing it~ Kinda like how sleazy guys keep acting the way they do to get into women's pants because there are plenty of women out there that fall for their tricks.

bismarck

01-29-2007, 10:02 AM

moser

01-29-2007, 05:52 PM

Whenever I get into an argument with a girl or even if it's just a female friend and things get heated, I hate how somehow she can put words into my mouth and make it look like I'm the idiot to even suggest that I never said those words. I also hate how she can make the most irrational statements in the world and infer things randomly without the slightest shred of logic or credibility and still make it seem like everything is okay and that there was absolutely nothing wrong with her line of reasoning. I hate how when she knows she's wrong or has messed up somewhere that she is able to suggest that we stop the argument and attribute it to something such as my stubbornness, stupidity, and/or unwillingness to admit defeat. I'm not even going to get into how she likes to bring up tangents and other issues that have absolutely nothing to do with what we are talking about to use against me. And she will do all the aforementioned with a straight face. And finally, what I hate the most is how it doesn't really matter afterward who was right or wrong because ultimately you're always the one that ends up in the doghouse/on the couch/nookie-less anyway because she'll be pissed because of the argument. Of course, you may be pissed too, but you're never in any position to be dishing out any punishment or repercussions.

Ha ha, this sounds like a bro-ha-ha that I just got into one of these fights with a friend of mine (we're both female). She's make a completely irrational argument, I'd call her on it, and she'd just counter by claiming that (1) "what transpired is of no significance in my life" and (2) "[she] has decided to forgive and move on." It's like she watched the Soap Opera Arguing Technique (cheezy melodramatic statements instead of something that directly touches upon the disagreement).

Ok, sorry, carry on...

Napoleon Chynamite

01-30-2007, 01:28 AM

napoleon: I was just about to say, "What kind of women do you talk to," until I read the rest of your post. Nonetheless, I don't think that's a complaint about women rather than just a complaint about stupid people, and you just happened to go out with those types of people.

Somehow though I don't think it was so much that the girls I've been around/dated in the past were stupid more than I genuinely believe that this is just how a lot of women are, maybe kinda like how a lot (or all) of guys have the tendency to do stupid things while listening to their penis more than their minds. Whether or not women do this because they do it on purpose and know exactly what they're doing or are doing it just b/c they're female, I have no idea...just that it bugs me, lol. A lot of said women that I've argued with in the past were more successful than I was/am and much more accomplished in the realm of higher education, although perhaps this isn't ever a true or direct indicator of intelligence.

On that note, I don't hate women, and quite frankly there have been times when I really wanted to but no matter how many pet peeves I find I won't be able to hate them no matter how hard I try. It's that damn penis.

Napoleon Chynamite

01-30-2007, 01:37 AM

Nice guys aren't nice guys. Nice guys are actually sleazy emotionally predatory assholes.

http://www.somethingpositive.net/arch/sp02142004.gif

This is also completely true btw. All men are sleazy and it just depends on how they express or hide it~

TB4000

01-30-2007, 10:54 AM

^have you ever known a dude that has honestly only wanted a girl's friendship and never once considered hitting the booty?

bismarck

01-30-2007, 12:16 PM

you don't have to be stupid to be *stupid*, if you catch my drift.

I'm really baffled by this take on women, because I know I'm not like that, nor are a lot of my friends. I do think that females, including me, do things around their boyfriends because they know they can get away with it (like calling him at hours you wouldn't call your friends, etc.). Whenever I've argued with a boyfriend, I've tried to do so in a way I would argue with my friends: with a clear mind, really listening to their views and trying to be logical. I'd like to think that I made this happen, even though I'm sure there were other things I didn't do that I should've.

Man, my mom can be such a pain to talk to, in all the ways described, but I take it as a personal characteristic. I've known boys like this, mainly the ones in a church youth group I used to attend (not to bash Christians or anything).

bismarck

01-30-2007, 12:20 PM

^have you ever known a dude that has honestly only wanted a girl's friendship and never once considered hitting the booty?

when she wasn't that physically attractive....

I'd like to think there's a difference between sleazy guys and walking penises. Or...no, maybe you're right. They don't sound that different. Are you sure that all guys are like that?

Hiroshi2

01-30-2007, 02:15 PM

Let's face it - most guys love pussy but can't stand women.

How many of us would put up with women if they didn't have pussies? If we knew that we were not going to fuck them, period.

Tao

01-30-2007, 09:23 PM

Let's face it - most guys love pussy but can't stand women.

How many of us would put up with women if they didn't have pussies? If we knew that we were not going to fuck them, period.

i know i wouldn't. no one in their right mind would put up with a girls shit if he knew he wasn't gonna get any.

returntosender

01-30-2007, 09:38 PM

That's only 1 out of a possible 7 orifices though. No pussy? No problem.

TB4000

01-30-2007, 09:59 PM

That's only 1 out of a possible 7 orifices though. No pussy? No problem.

That's assuming she's as freaky as you.

Napoleon Chynamite

02-01-2007, 12:47 AM

Haha. I see this thread going nowhere great...

I think the irrational over-emotional dramatic woman generalization has about as much merit as the one that says males are all sleazy and horny and think with their penises. You can take that however you want to~

^have you ever known a dude that has honestly only wanted a girl's friendship and never once considered hitting the booty?

Of course. When she has hot friends.

slob of sable

03-14-2007, 09:26 AM

Who wants in?
1) they don't seem to know what they want
That's fine, they can do what I want.

2) they're contradictory
See above.

3) they can't make up their minds
See above. However if she can't make up her mind about whether to go out with me, I will normally make up MY mind to date her other hot friend.

4) they play too many damn games even when they say they hate playing games
I'm quite oblivious to games. In fact, whenever I play chess with a woman, my opening move is to take her pieces, throw them out the window, and declare "I win".

5) they always seem to be stuck on their last boyfriends even though they claim to want better
That's when I break up with them. If they're still hooked onto their last boyfriend, they can do it from the privacy of their own home.

Seriously dude, just grow some balls. The moment you develop the ability to walk out of ANY relationship without turning back, you won't worry about crap like this.

Faithless

07-14-2007, 10:54 AM

Let's face it - most guys love pussy but can't stand women.

How many of us would put up with women if they didn't have pussies? If we knew that we were not going to fuck them, period.
You're speaking of non-related women, right?
Nor women in management.
Not the UPS driver.
Not the women at the checkout counter ignoring making any connection between a dude's purchase of a girlie mag and condoms.

Banana

07-14-2007, 11:23 AM

If men had breasts, we'd never leave the house.

popculturepooka

07-14-2007, 01:26 PM

^ I would.

Asian_Casanova

07-20-2007, 12:40 PM

Who wants in?

I'm at the point where I'm just fed up with women.
1) they don't seem to know what they want
2) they're contradictory
3) they can't make up their minds
4) they play too many damn games even when they say they hate playing games
5) they always seem to be stuck on their last boyfriends even though they claim to want better

I think I'm bitter, or at the very least I'm approaching the stage of *bitter*

This isn't as much a post of discussion as me venting, but give me some general opinions and we can share gross generalizations and stories over the campfire.

Lol, you neatly summed up most women right there. Sometimes, actually alot of the time, I actually think dating and or chasing women is not worth it.

TB4000

07-20-2007, 02:46 PM

Lol, you neatly summed up most women right there. Sometimes, actually alot of the time, I actually think dating and or chasing women is not worth it.

And that's when you go this route.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/chcukandlarryposter.jpg

Asian_Casanova

07-20-2007, 02:59 PM

^^ I'll stick to chasing women and trying to get them to go on dates with me.

Pb2308

07-22-2007, 02:04 AM

idk, im 19 years old, and a genuinely nice person. but frankly, girls my age, don't respond to that. took me a while to learn this, but if you're around my age. you gotta be confident. you gotta let go of the niceness a bit. you gotta tease, you gotta tell yourself that you're a better catch than that girl you're pursuin, not matter how amazing she is. kaz you know what? girls are silly at that age. they don't want a guy that they could have at snap of their fingers, they want a challenge. i think the challenge can apply to all age groups.

anyway, idk, if you're older--i think its a lil' different. women appreciate "niceness" more. i'm aware of this because i have an older cousin who tells me these things.

stop being too nice. stop being their best friend. its only a minority of girls who truly go for nice guys. you gotta (and maybe its wrong? idk) hook em first.

right now, i have a gf and to i guess (get her) i was what i described before. i kept her interested, kept her on her toes. now since were in a relationship, i slowly let my guard down. let my niceness show. and the relationship is great.

lunarmoon

09-28-2007, 12:02 PM

Not all relationships are crap. Girls in my age group are only looking to go out and have fun and not looking for what is the best for them. Being young is part of trying to figure out what you want so, they do the same. From my understanding of my last relationships women play the games to test you to see if your worthy of there affection. With that said all genders are to stubborn to understand each other and are quick to complain about the opposite sex. Not to mention that men and women have different point of view and different way of rationalizing things.

BTW, Pb2308 that want last for more then a year she'll get tired of you but, i wish you the best of luck.

cloudzero

09-28-2007, 05:08 PM

^^ I'll stick to chasing women and trying to get them to go on dates with me.

good idea, keep trying

Azn Retribution

10-03-2007, 11:15 PM

My Question:
wtf is it with girls already in relationships trying to jump your nuts.
its like some kind of strange fucking phenomenon.

Freudian ID says. there's no ring so why not. STOP THINKING SO HARD, RELAX AND GO DO IT YOU MORON.

Superego/Conscience thinks: Great. Drama. Potential Legal problems from future physical altercations with her SO or maybe her SO is one of my good friends and potentially bad karma If it goes into a relationship, what's to stop her from doing the same thing to you with someone else.

Main Question: If they really want your nuts. Why won't they dump their baggage first.
and make it simpler.

DragonKnight

10-04-2007, 10:03 AM

^Heh, I still find it amusing when women jump a guy's nuts when HE gets into a relationship...and not BEFORE.

TB4000

10-04-2007, 11:01 AM

When you have a chick, other girls start to wonder what you have. When you are without chick, girls don't give a shit.

cloudzero

10-04-2007, 12:03 PM

When you have a chick, other girls start to wonder what you have. When you are without chick, girls don't give a shit.

^ this is like a metaphor for asian guys in general

thats why u dont go around bitching

Azn Retribution

10-09-2007, 01:45 AM

When you have a chick, other girls start to wonder what you have. When you are without chick, girls don't give a shit.

Maybe it's cuz both chicks and guys are always somewhat on the look out for something perceived as better. "Grass is always greener..."

Girls trying to hedge their bets. won't dump their boy unless I commit.
but then again. I won't commit unless they dump their boy first.

Zero-Sum game no work here.

Wanted: Game Theory tactician.

^ this is like a metaphor for whiny emo guys in general

thats why u dont go around bitching

FIXED THAT SHIT FOR YOU.

eos

10-09-2007, 07:56 AM

^are you sure they just don't want you as an NSA on-the-side thing?

cuz girls have needs too, you know.

not that i would know or anything. *ahem*

cloudzero

10-09-2007, 08:31 AM

FIXED THAT SHIT FOR YOU.

it doesn't explain why some of my eligible boys are striking out

Napoleon Chynamite

10-09-2007, 11:48 PM

Azn Retribution

10-10-2007, 03:49 AM

^are you sure they just don't want you as an NSA on-the-side thing?

cuz girls have needs too, you know.

not that i would know or anything. *ahem*

NSA? thats new terminology for me.
bit slow on the uptake of all these new-fangled acronyms.

and I thought we already took care of your needs yesterday.
and they say guys are the ones with the evolutionary imperative.

it doesn't explain why some of my eligible boys are striking out

Guess you didn't read. "Whiny Emo boys"
and I guess I'll put the emphasis on boys

Womens like and want to sex Men.
Girls like Boys but want to sex men.

If they aren't getting any game then they need to man up and figure out why they striking out. Jeezus. look at the metaphor itself.
If your striking out in baseball cuz you keep swinging the exact same way. focusing the exact same way. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO CHANGE?
Is it the pitchers fault? or your fault for sucking. maybe they don't try enough. It IS a numbers game.

^ they're not really eligible then if they're striking out
I love the knee-jerk reaction of guys when they get rejected is to think that there's something wrong with the girl or girls instead of them.

Um. hmm... that's odd.. my knee-jerk reaction is that I take things personally especially when its a hard/brutal cruel rejection. I always assume there's something wrong with me or what I did.

That's what wrecked my game at first. Being super self-conscious of my image/appearance/attitude/etc. Had to learn to care less and look at the reality of the situation. and not let a couple of rejections ruin my entire night.

I just decided to just play things straight/earnestly. It's boring.. but playing the badass/rebellious guy wasn't me. Funny outgoing guy.. felt I was trying or BSing too much.
my humour is more subtle and sarcastic/dry/witty. So I've been having more luck with girls my age (23) or older than 19-21 (which Im usually more attracted to)

Probably what helped me is putting it in perspective of girls I've turned down or kind of put off without consciously knowing it. Sometimes its not your fault or their fault. Just like I might see a girl. She's quite good looking by most peoples standards. just not the type of "look" I'm particularly attracted to. Not her fault. Nothing she could have changed in her approach/smile/dress.

I'm sure the same can be said for women in that vein.

cloudzero

10-10-2007, 09:19 AM

^ they're not really eligible then if they're striking out

I love the knee-jerk reaction of guys when they get rejected is to think that there's something wrong with the girl or girls instead of them.

i must be downright stupid, cuz im been trying to find what they are doing wrong, but i can't. they all graduated from college and 5 out of 6 of them never dated before. im not talking bout just 6 ppl i know, but more like 60? then you realize most the AFs were hooked up since highschool

can't blame me for thinking a certain way

Napoleon Chynamite

10-10-2007, 10:38 AM

i must be downright stupid, cuz im been trying to find what they are doing wrong, but i can't. they all graduated from college and 5 out of 6 of them never dated before. im not talking bout just 6 ppl i know, but more like 60? then you realize most the AFs were hooked up since highschool

can't blame me for thinking a certain way

Well I'm not going to discount your experiences. 60 people? Me personally, I don't have a single Asian guy friend (or acquaintance for that matter) who hasn't hooked up or is currently hooked up. I find your testimony to be hard to believe, but who am I to say *shrug* And graduating from college does not give you a free pass to ass.

eos

10-10-2007, 11:16 AM

NSA= no strings attached.

oh, was that supposed to be something last night?

eos

10-10-2007, 11:17 AM

Well I'm not going to discount your experiences. 60 people? Me personally, I don't have a single Asian guy friend (or acquaintance for that matter) who hasn't hooked up or is currently hooked up. I find your testimony to be hard to believe, but who am I to say *shrug* And graduating from college does not give you a free pass to ass.

LOL....free pass to ass!

robotic

10-10-2007, 12:31 PM

i know i really shouldn't be invading this thread,
but are ALL women you've met bad drivers? :/ my brother seems to think so.. sigh, he so belongs here.

cloudzero

10-10-2007, 02:45 PM

Azn Retribution

10-10-2007, 04:00 PM

NSA= no strings attached.

oh, was that supposed to be something last night?

Hitting those low bows ain't ya.

im saying they are overdue, and i feel i got a good loserdar. the number of singles doesn't seem to make a whole lotta sense

Lets see...
They graduated from college
and STILL have never dated?
Virgin from college.. Plausible
No solid relationships through college... Possible (Just random hookups/dating.)

but NEVER having gone out on ONE date.

Don't buy it...

Your loserdar must be broken if you don't think not having attempted to court the opposite sex during the prime of their life makes them not a loser.

and this includes 60 guys who you personally know, have never dated before?

and you include the excuse that all AFs are hooked up since High School.. (ahahhaha... every single HS relationship I've heard of is broken or gone by sophomore year.)

Sorry. but

Fail.

They should have expanded their social network hardcore. go out clubbing, go bar-hopping, parties, social events. whatever it takes.
What state/city do you live in?

If you dare say california. I'll say biggest most spectacular failure ever.

cloudzero

10-10-2007, 04:40 PM

They should have expanded their social network hardcore. go out clubbing, go bar-hopping, parties, social events. whatever it takes.

if they strike out like that, then theyd be "trying to hard"

Azn Retribution

10-10-2007, 11:07 PM

if they strike out like that, then theyd be "trying to hard"

You can't try too hard if you don't try at all.

Key is "trying"

and you know what. they will try too hard at first.
but they gotta keep going.

It's like in martial arts when people tense the fuck up their first few times. Muscles all tense. wasting too much energy.

You just keep going through the shitty conditioning phase until you get the coordination and feel of it.

If they haven't had ONE date throughout 4 years of college

They ain't trying.

tripostrophe

10-11-2007, 01:10 PM

Maybe it's time for this thread to be closed..

deez nuts

10-11-2007, 01:24 PM

Maybe it's time for this thread to be closed..

Nah. YW is on its last breaths anyways and this thread is one that people still post in.

Adaon

10-11-2007, 02:30 PM

then you realize most the AFs were hooked up since highschool

High school stuff rarely lasts college, and after that sort of "longterm relationship" most girls I know loved dating it up/boy hopping. So, that's one misnomer that's written off . . . .

cloudzero

10-11-2007, 02:31 PM

You can't try too hard if you don't try at all.

Key is "trying"

and you know what. they will try too hard at first.
but they gotta keep going.

It's like in martial arts when people tense the fuck up their first few times. Muscles all tense. wasting too much energy.

You just keep going through the shitty conditioning phase until you get the coordination and feel of it.

If they haven't had ONE date throughout 4 years of college

They ain't trying.

maybe i just have a radar for 'super-losers' and cant tell the difference between regular losers and the normal guys

vicv

10-11-2007, 05:31 PM

maybe they are lazy or have really high standards?

jackandjerry

11-04-2007, 02:31 AM

there's a time when my ex gf tried to force me to make out with her and I just ran away.

eos

11-04-2007, 06:53 AM

hey...umm....how old are you? 12?

Adaon

11-08-2007, 12:38 PM

God, I friggen just can't STAND a person can't give me a straight YES or NO. Hell, I'd even take a NO, but with a reason/condition to how that NO might change. Friggen hemming and hawing and dancing around the friggen question and wasting my TIME ticks me off.

I had a rough wkend, and a girl currently driving me up the friggen WALLS at the moment cuz she can't answer a simple "Are ya coming out to the club or not?". It's not like she's my date, but friggen, all the rest of my friends are for some reason pissing on me to get the answer from her. Wtf. man, screw it all....

eos

11-08-2007, 01:11 PM

Adaon

11-08-2007, 01:19 PM

you know, some guys act like this too.

"so are you coming with us later?"
"mm...not sure. where are you going?"
"_____ club. my friend hooked us up."
"not sure. i have no idea what's going on at this point."

hey, here's an idea: quit wasting my effin' time, jerk off.

Yeh. I know. I've verbally smacked those asshats upside the head plenty. Girls, I just get mad/annoyed at and grumble more about. That's why in my first paragraph it lists my gripe with a person(s), before the second paragraph got more specific for this particular case.

<3 to Jei jei. =P

Napoleon Chynamite

11-09-2007, 12:52 AM

Just got into a big argument/fight with one of my girl/female friends last night...pissed me off that she can bring in every single unrelated thing into the conversation to use against me (such as things in the past, my personality traits and how I handled previous situations, etc.), even though it has absolutely nothing to do with why we are arguing nor would it have made it easier for us to come to a consensus. I had to stop at least 8 times and say like "Ok so...how did we get here?/Where is the relevance in this?/How is this related to what we're talking about?"

So I did the most logical thing possible afterward and went to another female friend to bitch and vent about why women always do this. And then she laughed and admitted that women are like that and provided me with consolation. Unfortunately this isn't going to make any difference whatsoever should I find myself in an argument with her sometime down the line. Kinda like how it's easy for men to admit that guys are one-track minded horndogs until their own ass is on the line.

Don't hate women though. I'm beyond that...
My motto to fulfill both my moral conscience as well as my cynical mindset is...just b/c most people are stupid doesn't mean you should be nasty to them.

TB4000

11-09-2007, 02:41 PM

Just confess you will never understand them, and leave it at that. Trying to crack that code is like attempting to understand what The Secret is.

Napoleon Chynamite

11-09-2007, 10:10 PM

Just confess you will never understand them, and leave it at that. Trying to crack that code is like attempting to understand what The Secret is.

It's not so much the fact that I won't ever understand or figure things out that bothers me. It's more like how there's this idea that we're supposed to already know or at least be obligated to know or understand (and then we're accused or made to feel guilty when we don't) when clearly such a feat is extremely difficult if not impossible. I know I'm preaching to the choir here...but =P