Jim Webb's wife is Vietnamese

[Golden Monkey]

Don't know if that helped or hurt.

There will probably be a recount in Virginia. Macaca Goldstein's people will demand it I'm sure.

Hong Le Webb

http://www.dykema.com/bio/images/Webb.jpg

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArti cle&%09s=1045855935264&c=MGArticle&cid=1149191411647&path=!news!politics

STAND BY THEIR MAN: Hong Webb

Politics takes its toll on privacy, but both senatorial candidates' wives offer their support

[returntosender]

sorry, i was venting in haste.

what I was saying was that the promo she did for her husband was inappropriate. She spent the first minute or so dispelling myths about submissive Asian housewives while just barely trumpetting her own horn. It makes you wonder WHY that would be the first thing she talked about which really made me feel uncomfortable and couldn't bare to finish watching.

[lethal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di_wLC5aq6U

Video profile on youtube

Jim Webb himself speaks Vietnamese. I know my parents took that in consideration when they decided to vote for Webb (and they traditionally vote Republican).

[yoMAMA]

I thought jim webb hates vietnamese (at least in his novels)

;)

[Banana]

I don't find this quote from either too appealing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/02/AR2006110201673.html

She said her husband often teases her about the escape. "He says that if [U.S. troops] hadn't rescued me, I'd be snaggletoothed and selling pencils on the streets of Saigon," she said. "It wouldn't be too far from the truth. If I'd stayed behind in Vietnam, I wouldn't be where I am today."

Gee, I'm so glad my ancestors were enslaved from Africa or I would still be living in a a mud hut practicing voodoo and drinking goat blood.

[Craig]

Well, as typical in American elections, you get to choose between two racist douchebags. With my current knowledge of the candidates, I think I would prefer macaca Allen.

[Yeahman]

What an ass. The Dems beat Allen but give us this guy? What's the point of controlling the Senate when you got this guy and Lieberman? Who is this a victory for?

[yoMAMA]

What an ass. The Dems beat Allen but give us this guy? What's the point of controlling the Senate when you got this guy and Lieberman? Who is this a victory for?

that's why the two party system sucks: The GOP is a subsidary of corporate America, and the Dems are slaves to the union and trial lawyers.

Sure you someimes get lucky and get progressives like Paul Wellstone, barack obama and Keith Ellison, but most of the time it's chossing Tweedledum or Tweedledee.

[Yeahman]

Slaves to the unions? Unions had no better allies than Wellstone and Ellison.

[yoMAMA]

Slaves to the unions? Unions had no better allies than Wellstone and Ellison.

yeah but those two are true progressives: they believe in helping the underdogs.

vs ideologues like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

[yoMAMA]

also i should add that the GOP are slaves to the religious right-the southernization of the party.

[returntosender]

does anyone remember a white or black politician using his wife to reach out to her race?

[Banana]

No, they only seem to try it when the wife is Asian for some reason.

And makes them think that having a minority wife encourages said group to vote for them?

[Golden Monkey]

Gee, I'm so glad my ancestors were enslaved from Africa or I would still be living in a a mud hut practicing voodoo and drinking goat blood.

True you're better off in the US than Africa but if your ancestors were not brought over here you wouldn't be anywhere. You would not exist. There's no way the exact genetic combination could ever be created again that led to your birth if you rewound the tape of history and removed the slave trade from your family history.

She was refering to her own life. Had she not come to the US she would be worse off. That's trivially obvious in her case.

[Golden Monkey]

No, they only seem to try it when the wife is Asian for some reason.

And makes them think that having a minority wife encourages said group to vote for them?

"Minority" or "Asian"?

I don't recall many cases of White pols showing off their black wives to get the black vote.

Besides a greater number of people, Asian and non-Asian, might be offended by seeing a White man with his Asian wife.

I'll bet there are plenty of Asian males more offended by this relationship than by Macaca Goldstein calling an Indian guy a rarely used racial slur.

[Yeahman]

also i should add that the GOP are slaves to the religious right-the southernization of the party.
And the NRA.
And the Dems are slaves to Planned Parenthood.

[yoMAMA]

Macaca Goldstein

george allen?

[returntosender]

"Minority" or "Asian"?
I'll bet there are plenty of Asian males more offended by this relationship than by Macaca Goldstein calling an Indian guy a rarely used racial slur.

lol. I'll bet you're right. And I bet there WILL be some smartass Asian guys voting for Allen only because Webb's wife is Vietnamese.

[yoMAMA]

here's an interesting article about webb:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/061030fa_fact

[yoMAMA]

lol. I'll bet you're right. And I bet there WILL be some smartass Asian guys voting for Allen only because Webb's wife is Vietnamese.

white guy with an asian wife is like a black guy with a white wife:

there's nothing unusual about it (and society seems to accepted it).

where as asian guy with white women or white guy with black women-those are rare.

:wink:

[Animaeish]

Way to kill a thread yoMAMA. ;)

Actually I agree the interacial match-ups you mentioned (AF/WM & WF/BM) are more common in the real world. However in the White controlled world of media and advertizing the fomer is EXTREMELY common these days while the latter is almost completely unheard of. White people (men) like to see the AF/WM match ups because it benefits them while WF/BM relationships still make them uncomfortable. Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are. This type of double standard and bias in the media is what pisses me off the most against White people right now.

[BigLew]

Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are.

Your'e kidding right?

[Animaeish]

Your'e kidding right?

NO, YOU are kidding by asking me this right? I rarely watch tv these days and scattered over the last several weeks I've seen over a dozen tv shows, movies and tv commericals with AF/WM couples and 0 with WF/BM. Where is the joke there?

The ONLY exceptions are movies like "Save the Last Dance" where that particular type of interacial couple is the point of the plot.

[BigLew]

Love Field
The Pelican Brief
Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner
Save The Last Dance
Wild Things 2
Jungle Fever
White Lies
Black and White
Liberty Stands Still
A Patch of Blue
The Lost Man
Shaft
187
Slaughter
I, Robot
Captive Heart
Bad Boys
Daybreak
Suburbia
Courage Under Fire
Moll Flanders
Bad Company
Mandingo
Dawn of the Dead
Country of my Skull
Holes
Marci X
Pieces of April
Thirteen
Far From Heaven
Just a Kiss
The New Guy
Undercover Brother
The Brothers
Save the Last Dance
Storytelling
"O"

Now these are some American movies that have black men romantically involved with white women, and not nearly a complete one.

Originally Posted by Animaeish
Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are.


Basically, without calling you a complete moron, I am saying you are talking out of the side of your neck. You can prove me wrong by listing half as many examples where an Asian male is a "sex symbol" in American media.....


I'm waiting.

[Animaeish]

Love Field
The Pelican Brief
Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner
Save The Last Dance
Wild Things 2
Jungle Fever
White Lies
Black and White
Liberty Stands Still
A Patch of Blue
The Lost Man
Shaft
187
Slaughter
I, Robot
Captive Heart
Bad Boys
Daybreak
Suburbia
Courage Under Fire
Moll Flanders
Bad Company
Mandingo
Dawn of the Dead
Country of my Skull
Holes
Marci X
Pieces of April
Thirteen
Far From Heaven
Just a Kiss
The New Guy
Undercover Brother
The Brothers
Save the Last Dance
Storytelling
"O"

Now these are some American movies that have black men romantically involved with white women, and not nearly a complete one.



Basically, without calling you a complete moron, I am saying you are talking out of the side of your neck. You can prove me wrong by listing half as many examples where an Asian male is a "sex symbol" in American media.....


I'm waiting.

First of all, by calling me a moron you reveal your method of argument and maturity. Second, many of your examples are like I said, are intended to make a controversial or political point or they are NOT really romantic relationships. Third I was using the Asian Male sex symbol as a metaphor for obscurity.

But ok, you want examples... okay. But even someone as infantile as YOU can appreciate the fact that Asians make up maybe 2% of the population while Blacks are about 13%. So by Per Capita Representation I can easily provide you with a proportionate number of movie examples to prove what I was in fact talking about:

Joy Luck Club
Come See The Paradise
Heaven And Earth

Forrest Gump
The World Of Suzie Wong

And what about advertising? How often do you see Black men in a ROMANTIC situation with White women? I have seen several over the years with White Men and Asian women.... even involving kissing and holding hands, which seem taboo in advertizing for white women and minorities.

[Animaeish]

I acidentally posted before I was finished but here are over half the number of your list where ther is a sexual and/or romantic relationship betwen white males and asian females mostly of the top of my head:

Joy Luck Club
Come See The Paradise
Heaven And Earth
Midway
Forrest Gump
Pushing Hands
The World Of Suzie Wong
Karate Kid II
Double Happiness
Sayonara
Rambo
Missing In Action
Full Metal Jacket
Hamburger Hill
Last Samurai

Considering the number of Asians compared to the number of Blacks, that is more than enough to make my point. But you know, given time I'm sure you could probably double or triple this list.

[Golden Monkey]

Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are. This type of double standard and bias in the media is what pisses me off the most against White people right now.

You claim to be hapa. Are you a black/Asian hapa mix?

Because otherwise why would you be upset about the supposed lack of WF/BM relationship movies?

It's one thing to speak of lack of Asian male presence in the media but if anything black males are overrepresented in the media. I haven't done a review of WF/BM movies but Lew gave an extensive list.

But the list you gave of WM/AFs was mostly war movies based outside the US.

I still don't think there are many WM/AF movies based in the US about average Americans.

You also failed to notice most Spike Lee movies which often play to the black male desire for White females as sex objects.

But where's the desire for AM/AF movies?

It's interesting how White women remain the ultimate trophy for males of any race even if they are only fantasizing about it through a movie. :rolleyes:

[Animaeish]

You both completely misunderstand my point. I am saying the White dominant media of America disproportionately show White males with minority females (especially Asian women) and much less often shows White females in a truly romantic role with minority males. Many of the examples BigLew listed are simply Black men starring with White women with a romantic relationship merely implied at best. My examples have much more explicit relationships. And the advertising side of my post was not addressed. I have seen White men kissing Asian women in commercials for breath mint and holding hands in commercials for hardware stores... has anyone seen similar advertising with White women and any minorities?

[Golden Monkey]

I have seen White men kissing Asian women in commercials for breath mint and holding hands in commercials for hardware stores... has anyone seen similar advertising with White women and any minorities?

I have never seen WM/AF kissing in commercials. But I'm not studying this like you are. I have seen WF/BM in commercials for soda and the like advertised on the music channels.

It's still not that common to show WM/AF relationships among average American of current times in movies and TV. If you exclude movies set outside the US or war movies you really cut back the number by 90%.

Ok, there are more WM/AF TV/movies than WF/BM shows but WM/AF are still more rare in the media than in real life.

But again why the obsession with White women as the prize?

Where are the Asian male/Asian female relationships. THAT'S the big question.

Why doesn't that anger you as much?

[BigLew]

Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are.

LOL!! Dude I'm quoting you for a 3rd time on the same phrase. Based on this quote I listed WF/BM pairings in movies, that you said were as rare as "ASIAN MALE SEX SYMBOLS" and you come back with a list of WM/AF pairings!?

You also list a movie like Joy Luck Club!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You're major. Joy Luck Club asian males are some of the worst racist stereotyping Hollywood has to offer on being the complete opposite of male sex symbols.

As far as you crying about the moron comment, I concede, but that has nothing to do with the argument, just like your rebuttal list of WM/AF pairings.

[kimpossible]

dude... the name calling. how the fuck am i supposed to reduce personal attacks when OGs are doing this to other members?

[pikachupacabra]

dude... the name calling. how the fuck am i supposed to reduce personal attacks when OGs are doing this to other members?



Asian Mommy lasers. Pew pew pew!

[soulman386]

I agree. I see bm/wf couples all the time in the city I live in but it's rarely present in the media. Asian people have a double standard too. When an af marries a wm asian people just accept it as normal. When an am marries a wf asian people are like "oh, why doesn't he marry an asian girl." Does that double standard bother you?




Way to kill a thread yoMAMA. ;)

Actually I agree the interacial match-ups you mentioned (AF/WM & WF/BM) are more common in the real world. However in the White controlled world of media and advertizing the fomer is EXTREMELY common these days while the latter is almost completely unheard of. White people (men) like to see the AF/WM match ups because it benefits them while WF/BM relationships still make them uncomfortable. Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are. This type of double standard and bias in the media is what pisses me off the most against White people right now.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

The wife is pretty.

[kimpossible]

Hear the faint whisper of Nuts' prayer that they have daughters. That's right. Like white on rice, I'm on you today.

[Banana]

Actually, he's got you there, Biglew.

On that list of supposed WF/BM pairings, most of them aren't romantic interests rather friends/allies/co-stars.

I've watched most of them and didn't detect any hint of a romantic encounter.

In the end, I think WF/BM might be shown a tad more because there are more blacks in the media so it makes sense that there will be more instances compared to AF/WM. However, whenever there is a AF involved, she is always paired with a WM.

[pikachupacabra]

Not that it's terribly terribly relevant, but on Heroes, Niki's husband DL is black.

[returntosender]

dude... the name calling. how the fuck am i supposed to reduce personal attacks when OGs are doing this to other members?

What's an OG?

[BigLew]

Actually, he's got you there, Biglew.

On that list of supposed WF/BM pairings, most of them aren't romantic interests rather friends/allies/co-stars.

I've watched most of them and didn't detect any hint of a romantic encounter.

In the end, I think WF/BM might be shown a tad more because there are more blacks in the media so it makes sense that there will be more instances compared to AF/WM. However, whenever there is a AF involved, she is always paired with a WM.

Ok so I shall go through the list and make sure there's some lovin' and and also ad the 50 or so others that i held back just for you.

[yoMAMA]

However, whenever there is a AF involved, she is always paired with a WM.


http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/img2/Programs/240/240_isiah_washington.jpg

[yoMAMA]

Actually, he's got you there, Biglew.

On that list of supposed WF/BM pairings, most of them aren't romantic interests rather friends/allies/co-stars.

I've watched most of them and didn't detect any hint of a romantic encounter.

In the end, I think WF/BM might be shown a tad more because there are more blacks in the media so it makes sense that there will be more instances compared to AF/WM. However, whenever there is a AF involved, she is always paired with a WM.


well, it just shows white folks are just as insecure about colored men taking their women as we are about our women. :wink:

[BigLew]

Love Field
Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner: Sidney Poitier
Save The Last Dance:
Jungle Fever
White Lies (1996)
Black and White (1999)
A Patch of Blue
Shaft
Slaughter
Captive Heart: The James Mink Story
Bad Boys
Daybreak
Bad Company
Mandingo (1975)
Emma’s War
Dawn of the Dead
Holes
Marci X
Pieces of April
Far From Heaven
Undercover Brother
The Brothers
Save the Last Dance
O
Finding Forrester
Me, Myself and Irene
Shaft
Life
He Got Game
Jackie Brown
One Night Stand
Othello
Waiting to Exhale
Pulp Fiction
Blazing Saddles

In the end, I think WF/BM might be shown a tad more because there are more blacks in the media so it makes sense that there will be more instances compared to AF/WM.

This is totally crazy "a tad more"?? What is your definition of tad? Still no one has given me any examples of this mythical Asian male sex symbol in American media. I'd even give you Bruce Lee, even though he never got none in any american production.

I only removed a few and could add alot more to that, but getting lazy, and need alchohol in the system (it's friday). BM/WF couples are shown way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way more common then Asian male sex symbol. But go ahead and keep trying to convince me and everyone otherwise without any examples.

[Golden Monkey]

http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/img2/Programs/240/240_isiah_washington.jpg

Also, the old show "Night Court" had a black male character with an Asian wife.

[Golden Monkey]

Not that it's terribly terribly relevant, but on Heroes, Niki's husband DL is black.

Of course it's relevant. It's evidence to counter his claims.

Wife:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Heroes_ali.jpg/220px-Heroes_ali.jpg

Husband:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/LeonardRoberts_Heroes.jpg/200px-LeonardRoberts_Heroes.jpg

Son:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/95/NoahGray-Cabey_Heroes.jpg/200px-NoahGray-Cabey_Heroes.jpg

Other popular media examples include:

TV show "Earl"

TV show "Veronica Mars"

Each features a beautiful blonde White woman involved with a black male. All these shows are popular and prominent.

Where are the comparable White man/Asian woman couples on TV right now?

The only other prominent couple featuring an Asian female also involves a black male on "Grey's Anatomy".

Does this evidence matter to you at all?

[returntosender]

You have to admit, but there is a certain widespread belief that BM/WF couples are rare in the media for some reason. Even I have that belief, and the guys on other forums seem to see it that way as well. Maybe it's because while BM/WF are not that common in commercials and magazines, they do appear in movies but are also in shows where Asian guys might not watch. GM you mentioned Earl and Veronica Mars, but I don't think many Asians watch those shows. As for Grey's Anatomy, I've no idea. It must have a big AA female following but personally I don't watch it.

But if you walk down the street, in any neighbourhood, or flipped through magazines, it just seems more likely that you encounter images of WM/AFs. A LOT. Or if you encounter Asian females in ads, they're either with a white male or a lone. I'd say it's extremely rare to see AF/AMs in ads unless it's family or they're elderly couples. I even notice that when they show Asian males, it's usually someone very much older. It appears that 20s, 30s, Asian males is see as threatening. Not in a 'fear for your life' kind of way but I think people are uncomfortable with us.

[returntosender]

BTW, this is really off topic. I'd actually like to talk more about Hong Le Webb.

[Golden Monkey]

BTW, this is really off topic. I'd actually like to talk more about Hong Le Webb.

Good point. I started this thread and even I got off topic.

http://bornfighting.com/blog/node/275

A Conversation with Hong Le Webb

2006-10-06

1) You were born in Vietnam. Can you tell us when and how you came to America, what brought you here, and whether you still have family in Vietnam?

I left Vietnam immediately after the fall of Saigon in April 1975, along with my paternal grandmother, my parents, my only brother and three of my five sisters. We left my home town of Vung Tau in the middle of the night on a fishing boat. My other two sisters, who were married before I was born, left on different boats with their families around the same time. All of my immediate family are in the U.S. (surviving my parents are seven children, 31 grandchildren, and 14 great-grandchildren). I still have distant relatives in Vietnam today, with whom my older siblings keep in touch.

The 1975 departure was the second one for my parents. My parents and both sets of my grandparents were farmers in the north of Vietnam before 1954. My maternal grandparents were assassinated by the communists during the French War, and when the country split, my parents went to Vung Tau with my paternal grandparents and my three oldest siblings. As practicing, devout Catholics, my parents didn't believe that they and their family would have survived in the the north after 1954 nor in the south after 1975.

2) What is your educational background, and what do you do now? Can you talk about what it's like to be a working mom in America, compared to what it would be like in Vietnam?

My family parallels Jim's family educationally. My father had a 5th grade education, and my mother never learned how to write and barely knew how to read. Despite not having the same opportunities in education, my parents always stressed the importance of education to all their children. My siblings and I are first-generation immigrants to the U.S., and given our age ranges, have varying degrees of education. I grew up in New Orleans, got my undergraduate degree at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, and my law degree from Cornell University. I am a corporate securities lawyer in the Washington office of a Michigan-based law firm.

I don't think it would be possible to compare what it would be like as a working mom in the U.S. versus in Vietnam because the opportunities that existed for me in the U.S. would not have existed in Vietnam.

I am not unique in the issues I face as a mom with a career. I've had to balance competing interests relating to childcare, long hours as a lawyer, staying actively involved in my daughter's education and extra-curricular activities, and my own maternal desire to be involved in my daughter's life in every respect. I believe these competing interests are being dealt with by many working mothers today, especially at a time when two working parents are the norm rather than the exception.

However, my five sisters and I have had a great example in our mother and have been blessed with being part of a close-knit, extended family. I come from a family of very strong women. My mother worked side-by-side with my father in north Vietnam and was the primary breadwinner in south Vietnam. Most of my sisters have been entrepreneurs at one time or another; a couple still run their own businesses. My parents participated in the rearing of many of my nieces and nephews while my sisters were building careers and working outside the home. I have been similarly blessed with my own daughter, Emily. My former in-laws have been primarily responsible for Emily's childcare since she was born. Despite our divorce, I still am close to my ex-husband and his family: I talk to my ex almost daily; I still call my in-laws "mom and dad"; and we've celebrated holidays together, including with extended members of our respective families. And yes, Jim and to some extent his children (as they are older and have outside interests) have been brought into the fold.

3) How did you meet Jim Webb and what attracted you to each other?

Jim and I met long before we were ever attracted to each other. We met in the mid-1990's as a result of our mutual interest in doing business in Vietnam, and stayed in touch sporadically over the years. It's hard to say what attracted us to each other since we were basically distant, business-oriented friends over a number of years. We started dating while we were separated from our former spouses, and perhaps going through similarly difficult experiences in our lives allowed our friendship to blossom. What is important is that we have a great marriage.

I can tell you what I love, respect and admire about Jim - among them are his deep sense of patriotism and duty to country; his love of family and family history; his uncanny ability to appreciate differences in cultures that have allowed him to travel all over the world and fit in; his belief in the over-arching theme of fairness when it comes to addressing our public policy issues; and his honesty, integrity and forthrightness in fighting for the things he cares about.

4) What was it like, as a Vietnamese woman, to be introduced into Jim's Scots-Irish, southwest Virginia family and culture?

As Jim writes in "Born Fighting," the Scots-Irish are a very inclusive culture. Growing up in the South and having visited Southwest Virginia on a number of occasions, I have found this to be true. I also found that Scots-Irish women are very strong, not dissimilar to the women in my family (and I think a general characteristic of Vietnamese women). I greatly admire the strength and perseverance of Jim's grandmother, who lived with the family when Jim was little, his mother and her sisters, and more recently, his cousin Jewell, who lives in Gate City.

5) How do you feel about Jim running for public office? In particular, what's it like having your husband and family under intense public scrutiny?

I am proud of Jim for his willingness to step forward to serve the country at a watershed time in our country's history. That aside, I don't think either of us were prepared for the intensity of the process, including the public scrutiny. We both value our privacy and family time. For the most part, we've kept our family out of the public scrutiny and prefer it that way.

As for Jim being under public scrutiny, I am hopeful that people who are deciding on their choice for Senator will see behind the negative, personal, smear campaign against Jim as a common political tactic of the other side in the past decade. I invite people to read Jim's writings and do their own research. Jim no doubt has lived through some of the most divisive periods in this country's history, and his positions must be taken in the context of the histories of those times. However people may feel about Jim's stance on specific issues, I am confident that they will find that Jim is an honest and principled man and leader, and he will never compromise his honesty and principles for political or personal gains.

6) Can you tell us a little about what it's like for the family with Jimmy Webb "in harm's way" over in Iraq?

It's important, and rightly so, that Jimmy's service not be used for political reasons. Some politicians do this, but Jim has been very insistent that he will not do so with Jimmy. As Jim says, Americans rarely enlist in the military because of one political issue or another. They do so because they love their country, and because of family tradition. Jimmy comes from a long, family tradition of service to country. Despite the fact that Jim believes the war in Iraq was a mistake, we admire and support all the men and women who are serving the country in Iraq and elsewhere. Like all families with loved ones in harm's way, we pray for his safety and his safe return, and for an end to the war in Iraq.

7) Are there any stories you'd like to share about family life with Jim? What are some favorite family activities?

Despite Jim's often serious demeanor in public, people may not be aware that Jim is a great husband and father, and has an often wicked sense of humor. In the tradition of the Scots-Irish, he loves to pass on family stories to his children and grandchildren. My daughter Emily has been the recipient of many of these stories and never tires of hearing them repeated. And he has no problem getting down to a nine-year old's level of fun, doing the "The Banks of the Hanky-Panky", "Hokey-Pokey", and "Cha Cha Slide" on request! We have always enjoyed long walks in Arlington Cemetery, and when time permits, having family over for cook-outs.

8) How's Jim's Vietnamese?

Jim's Vietnamese is excellent for someone who has had no formal education in the language. Being able to speak to each other in Vietnamese has been fun when we've traveled to Vietnam and provides some level of privacy especially when our lives have become so public with the campaign.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I've seen a lot more of AM/AF couples featured in media or commercials lately as well as a lot more positive and realistic AM representation these days, which is a good thing I suppose. Hopefully this is a sign that everyone's bitching, no matter how annoying, is paying off.

[returntosender]

I've seen a lot more of AM/AF couples featured in media or commercials lately as well as a lot more positive and realistic AM representation these days, which is a good thing I suppose. Hopefully this is a sign that everyone's bitching, no matter how annoying, is paying off.

Where do you live, California?

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Washington state