Porn up, rape down

[Faithless]

It seems that the counter would be truer.

Porn Up, Rape Down (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=913013)

ANTHONY D'AMATO | Northwestern University - School of Law June 23, 2006 |
Northwestern Public Law Research Paper No. 913013

Abstract:

The incidence of rape in the United States has declined 85% in the past 25 years while access to pornography has become freely available to teenagers and adults. The Nixon and Reagan Commissions tried to show that exposure to pornographic materials produced social violence. The reverse may be true: that pornography has reduced social violence.

Link to D'Amato paper (http://anthonydamato.law.northwestern.edu/Adobefiles/porn.pdf)

And from it, this quote:

My own interest in the rape-pornograpy question began in 1970 when I served as a consultant to President Nixon’s Commission on Obscenity and Pornography. The Commission concluded that there was no causal relationship between exposure to sexually explicit materials and delinquent or criminal behavior. The President was furious when he learned of the conclusion.

Later President Reagan tried the same thing, except unlike his predecessor he packed the Commission with persons who passed his ideological litmus test. (Small wonder that I was not asked to participate.) This time, Reagan’s Commission on Pornography reached the approved result: that there does exist a causal relationship between pornography and violent sex crimes.

[hooligan]

Interesting. I want to send this to someone. While on the subject of porn, I really don't care, I've seen good porn and I've seen bad porn. This correlation is very interesting.

[eos]

wait....there's a difference between good and bad porn?

[hooligan]

wait....there's a difference between good and bad porn?

I don't really like the scat, watersports and donkey dick kind of porn, but if you like it, more power to you!

[eos]

ohhh....THAT'S bad porn. i'd think it was just something.....different. not for everyone, just for those who like that stuff. like midget porn.

[Player 0]

Hmm, and what's odd is that there are also some people who relate Japan's rape crimes with the hentai industry, being top in the world and all.

Sounds like a job for RAPEMAN!

[thaite]

rape, murder, arson and rape.

[LaiSteve66]

wait....there's a difference between good and bad porn?

Yes, unfortunately "good" porn constitutes only 1% of porn.

[eos]

soooo....99% of porn is that freaky, kinky stuff?

well. there are many more sexually deviant people than i thought there were.

wait...why the hell am i surprised?

[bluemonq]

repeat after me:
association is not the same as correlation.
association is not the same as correlation.
association is not the same as correlation.

[hooligan]

repeat after me:
association is not the same as correlation.
association is not the same as correlation.
association is not the same as correlation.

If you read the article he addresses that.

[bluemonq]

If you read the article he addresses that.
If you just read the abstract (as I suspect many will do), that part does not.

[Hiroshi2]

Rape is not a sexual crime, it's a violent crime.


Sex is just the method that the rapist uses to commit the crime. There are other ways you can humiliate and degrade people in order to make yourself feel better about yourself, it's just that a lot of the people who do this choose to rape somebody in order to do this.

[pikachupacabra]

Sounds like a dance beat to me


porn up

rape down

everybody on the floor

porn up

rape down

everybody on the floor

(duh duh)



All in all, good news though. More people with a hand in their pants than someone else's pants.

[Faithless]

What sort of dude would want to admit that watching increased amounts of porn has decreased his desire to rape?

A rebuttal to the D'Amato argument.

Law Prof Glenn Reynolds Sees Some Correlation, Or Something, Between the “Porn Explosion” and A Drop In Reported Instances of Rape (http://feministlawprofs.law.sc.edu/?p=694)

...
Another way to track rape’s apparent decline is through the nation’s police reports, which are aggregated every year by the FBI. Their reports, dating to the mid-1980s, show that rape reached a peak in about 1992, with 0.4 rapes reported to police per 1,000 people.

Since then, reported rape declined about 25 percent by 2004, the most recent year for which data were available. In that year, the rate was about 0.3 reported rapes per 1,000. Besides the fact that not all rapes were being reported, the two studies’ differ because the FBI reports define rape more narrowly, excluding instances involving male victims. Both classify attempted rapes as “rape.”

Last week, the FBI released its preliminary crime data for 2005, which showed that reports of rape had again fallen slightly — even as other violent crimes such as murder and robbery ticked worrisomely upward.
...

[AliBabaIncorporated]

So is this theory applicable to pedophiles too? Cuz that should be a lot more easily testable (the availability of kiddie porn went up slowly as BBSes and other computer networks gained popularity, then back down once the feds got a clue about the internets and started doing enforcement) ...

[LaiSteve66]

soooo....99% of porn is that freaky, kinky stuff?

well. there are many more sexually deviant people than i thought there were.

wait...why the hell am i surprised?

No, 99% of porn is just junk.

[Irezumi Kiss]

No, 99% of porn is just junk.
Maybe...but the 1% that isn't...

...it's not porn...it's the schtuff that dreams are made of.

[Faithless]

Maybe...but the 1% that isn't...

...it's not porn...it's the schtuff that dreams are made of.
But what if D'Amato is correct, but the stuff that gets off dudes is all that gangbang, donkey dick stuff?

Ohhhhh, the moral obligation of the porn industry to keep rape down.

[DaMuo]

If you just read the abstract (as I suspect many will do), that part does not.

The paper is seriously abuses "statistics." No modeling or other statistical techniques were used to address the issue of causation. Agree with Bluemonq... correlation != causation ... this conclusion of this paper is actually quite preposterous.

No, 99% of porn is just junk.

99% porn is repetition.

[enigma740]

Sounds like a dance beat to me


porn up

rape down

everybody on the floor

porn up

rape down

everybody on the floor

(duh duh)



All in all, good news though. More people with a hand in their pants than someone else's pants.

Hahaha. Karma.

[Martino]

wait....there's a difference between good and bad porn?

Uh huh. Production values, lighting, good scripts and interesting storylines, believable dialogue. It's so important when the actor understands his motivation.

ohhh....THAT'S bad porn. i'd think it was just something.....different. not for everyone, just for those who like that stuff. like midget porn.

Do you mean porn for midgets or porn by midgets?

[pikachupacabra]

Hahaha. Karma.


Thanks for the thought, but too bad your karma ain't good here, pardner :-P

[thaite]

www.pornotube.com

just fyi, and research purposes.