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TB4000
08-10-2006, 02:43 PM
Haven't seen it yet, but will be doing so on the weekend possibly. Reviews have all been decent, saying Stone did justice to it, but there are still people that are unwilling to watch anything related to 9/11.
snailpoo
08-10-2006, 03:45 PM
Haven't seen it yet, but will be doing so on the weekend possibly. Reviews have all been decent, saying Stone did justice to it, but there are still people that are unwilling to watch anything related to 9/11.
I watched the original and am going to pass on this commercialized attempt.
I did, however, also watch the Naudet brother's documentary. They were making a documentary about a probie's first year when September 11 rolled around. It's saddening to suddenly realize half way through that many of the firefighters in the background of the film (the ones in the firehouse all survived) aren't alive any more. If you absolutely feel the need to watch something about September 11, watch this one.
Martino
08-10-2006, 04:29 PM
I imagine it would be quite galling for the bin Laden's of this world, perhaps even intimidating, that their great 'victory' enters into the media culture they so hate. The faces of the suicide bombers are forgotten, the real stories, heroes and martyrs of the Towers become celebrated by us, not al Qaida.
thaite
08-10-2006, 05:44 PM
pass
my stepbrother wanted to see this when i was visiting. i have no desire to see this and for a moment i was upset cuz to them, it's just another movie. that feeling passed quickly as it's not their fault for wanting to watch it. it's just still way too painful for me to watch.
AngryABCGirl
08-11-2006, 12:24 AM
Even if it's a great film, I don't think we're quite ready for this one.
Player 0
08-11-2006, 08:16 AM
I am only one here who sees this a cheap ploy to regain support for the war on terror.
VV o n g B a
08-11-2006, 08:38 AM
^ from oliver stone? i kinda doubt it. from the reviews, its seems like stone didn't even touch the political side of it.
Martino
08-11-2006, 08:40 AM
I am only one here who sees this a cheap ploy to regain support for the war on terror.
Yes, you are.
You've completely misjudged Oliver Stone's political standpoint. Here's a typical quote of his:
"Nationalism and patriotism are the two most evil forces that I know of in this century or in any century and cause more wars and more death and more destruction to the soul and to human life than anything else."
Does that sound like a supporter of the WoT to you?
TB4000
08-11-2006, 12:02 PM
Ollie Stone may be a conspiracy theorist, but he hates the government with a passion.
Faithless
11-30-2006, 09:11 AM
pass
I like finding old movies that have scenes of those famous buildings in the background -- apolitical, and more postcardish in nature.
I don't know all the locations (http://www.wirednewyork.com/wtc/), but you get all these diffferent perspectives of Manhattan, usually panoramic in nature, with the buildings towering over everything.
Golden Monkey
11-30-2006, 10:34 AM
I haven't seen the movie but here's a piece of the real thing. Here are two audio clips from people in the buildings as the buildings burn.
9/11 Kevin Cosgrove
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE9TLgCVLBM
Here is a longer and edited piece. Edited because apparently the woman's suffering was too upsetting.
http://llnwstatic.viacomlocalnetworks.com/wcbs/docs/911a/01_Moussaoui_Trial_Calls.mp3
Melissa Doi, who died on September 11, 2001
http://www.amny.com/media/photo/2006-04/22881920.jpg
Melissa C. Doi
World Trade Center
Dancing Through Life
Beneath Melissa C. Doi's crisp Wall Street veneer beat the ebullient heart of a ballerina. Had her physique cooperated, Ms. Doi often said, she would have become a professional ballet dancer.
Instead, she followed her heart along a winding path of professional exploration. At Northwestern University she studied engineering, then switched to sociology. After graduation she took a job in public relations, then moved to banking. Four years ago she joined IQ Financial Systems, which develops financial software, and quickly became a manager.
She danced through it all. "She would get happy and just dance," said Lara Beth Metzger, a friend and former classmate. "Salsa, kick lines, everything."
Ms. Doi, 32, was an original thinker who questioned almost everything. "Whenever we had a staff meeting you could count on Melissa to ask the first question," said Eyal Altaras, her supervisor at IQ Financial.
Ms. Doi was especially close to her mother, Evelyn Alderete, and bought her a condo in the Bronx where they lived together. They were supposed to leave for a vacation in Italy on Sept. 14. "She could be a little pain in the neck," Ms. Alderete said. "But she was the best daughter anyone could have."
Profile published in THE NEW YORK TIMES on February 12, 2002.
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