Commando_turned_MD
11-18-2002, 10:18 PM
It seems this is a common occurance in America. Cops abusing their power......You probably remember the incident with the white cop and black teenage in Cali. Teen refuse to comply, so he got beat down. The African-Amer. citizens in the city claimed abuse & racism. But did the teen deserve what he got? Cops claimed the teen did not comply with his order. When he approached the teen, the teen grabbed his testicles. So Cop punch teen....
In this case, cops claimed the girl approached them w/ a knife. Girl refuse to drop the knife. Cops shoots her in the abs. From my perspective the girl is guilty for not complying w/ a peace officer. Girl advanced Rupp w/ the intention of causing harm---in the mind of Rupp. Rupp forced to shoot her. What people failed to realize is when the Cops arrived at the location with weapons drawn, and see a girl w/ a knife failing to comply and advancing in their direction fast. The cops DO NOT have sufficient time to re-holster the side-arm and pull out the pepper-spray to subdue her. I bet thats the argument the court is going use....Stun-gun is the ideal because it require close contact with the perp.
Another argument the cops can use is that they may have saved her life. If not for Rupp's action, Anna may have fatally stab herself. This may be more fatal than a well placed shot in the abs. Here's another thing people seem to realize. When you shoot a perp, you are trained to performed a tap------two shot----to make sure the perp is down. This become second nature.
During my time in Afganistan, when I was engaging targets in close-battle, I place a TAP ( two shots in the sternum) follow by one shot to the head; To ensure the target is dead. Why not aim for the head initial? Because there is a chance that you will miss...In combat you do not have time to think...You act on instinct........And your instinct is hone through countless hours of training, so it becomes second nature.
Cops are trained to shoot center--of--mass. They are not skilled enough to hit small body limbs---eg. arms or leg. Like I mention, there is a chance the round may miss and penetrate the wall and injure other people.
Maybe if the cops had time to reacess the problem, they may have used non-lethal means to subdue her. But like in combat, if a threat does not comply and is advancing at a great speed, the only choice you have is to use the weapon at hand. You do not have time to transition to the non-lethal stuff.
Like any situation, there is always two sides. This my analysis of the situtation from the info that I've read from LA Times...I would have to say the cops are innocent in this situation and Anna downfall was cause by own actions. If you're not brain-dead, you're responisble for your own action. That "suffering from mental distress" excuse is NO excuse.Blaming others for your problem is not the answer. If THE COPS Were Asians, would you cry racism too? Just a thought..............
I bet the DA is going to use an argument similar to mines.............
SOMEONE please post an counter-argument to my argument. I really would like to hear what you have to say.................
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When Anna threatened to kill herself at her Ventura foster home the night of May 5, her foster parents called police. Officers found the girl holding a knife, said Senior Deputy Dist. Atty. Miles Weiss. Anna ignored officers' repeated demands to drop the knife and when she advanced toward Rupp, the 23- year-old officer shot her in the abdomen, Weiss said.
The girl, who speaks and understands English, had "ample opportunity" to comply with officers, Weiss said.
"She never dropped the knife until after she was shot" and fell to the kitchen floor, he said.
Her lawyers and father dispute that account, saying she let go of the knife once she saw the officers and never intended to harm police.
Her father said the police should have tried another way to control the emotionally troubled girl, suggesting pepper spray or a stun gun. Anna spent eight days at Ventura County Medical Center, recovering from her wounds.
In this case, cops claimed the girl approached them w/ a knife. Girl refuse to drop the knife. Cops shoots her in the abs. From my perspective the girl is guilty for not complying w/ a peace officer. Girl advanced Rupp w/ the intention of causing harm---in the mind of Rupp. Rupp forced to shoot her. What people failed to realize is when the Cops arrived at the location with weapons drawn, and see a girl w/ a knife failing to comply and advancing in their direction fast. The cops DO NOT have sufficient time to re-holster the side-arm and pull out the pepper-spray to subdue her. I bet thats the argument the court is going use....Stun-gun is the ideal because it require close contact with the perp.
Another argument the cops can use is that they may have saved her life. If not for Rupp's action, Anna may have fatally stab herself. This may be more fatal than a well placed shot in the abs. Here's another thing people seem to realize. When you shoot a perp, you are trained to performed a tap------two shot----to make sure the perp is down. This become second nature.
During my time in Afganistan, when I was engaging targets in close-battle, I place a TAP ( two shots in the sternum) follow by one shot to the head; To ensure the target is dead. Why not aim for the head initial? Because there is a chance that you will miss...In combat you do not have time to think...You act on instinct........And your instinct is hone through countless hours of training, so it becomes second nature.
Cops are trained to shoot center--of--mass. They are not skilled enough to hit small body limbs---eg. arms or leg. Like I mention, there is a chance the round may miss and penetrate the wall and injure other people.
Maybe if the cops had time to reacess the problem, they may have used non-lethal means to subdue her. But like in combat, if a threat does not comply and is advancing at a great speed, the only choice you have is to use the weapon at hand. You do not have time to transition to the non-lethal stuff.
Like any situation, there is always two sides. This my analysis of the situtation from the info that I've read from LA Times...I would have to say the cops are innocent in this situation and Anna downfall was cause by own actions. If you're not brain-dead, you're responisble for your own action. That "suffering from mental distress" excuse is NO excuse.Blaming others for your problem is not the answer. If THE COPS Were Asians, would you cry racism too? Just a thought..............
I bet the DA is going to use an argument similar to mines.............
SOMEONE please post an counter-argument to my argument. I really would like to hear what you have to say.................
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When Anna threatened to kill herself at her Ventura foster home the night of May 5, her foster parents called police. Officers found the girl holding a knife, said Senior Deputy Dist. Atty. Miles Weiss. Anna ignored officers' repeated demands to drop the knife and when she advanced toward Rupp, the 23- year-old officer shot her in the abdomen, Weiss said.
The girl, who speaks and understands English, had "ample opportunity" to comply with officers, Weiss said.
"She never dropped the knife until after she was shot" and fell to the kitchen floor, he said.
Her lawyers and father dispute that account, saying she let go of the knife once she saw the officers and never intended to harm police.
Her father said the police should have tried another way to control the emotionally troubled girl, suggesting pepper spray or a stun gun. Anna spent eight days at Ventura County Medical Center, recovering from her wounds.