2006 Fantasy Baseball

[BeTheReds]

It's that time again.... League registration will probably open up in a few weeks.... I can't wait...

[deez nuts]

i've won football and basketball.

but, baseball destroys me.

[BeTheReds]

I've only managed to win baseball once, in 2004.

[lethal]

Am I the commish again? Any suggestions for this year?

[BeTheReds]

I don't know.. what did you guys think about appearances being counted in the scoring? I abused that heavily. I don't want to go back to giving credit for holds, but there has got to be a way to make non-closer RPs valuable...

[deez nuts]

whatever you guys decide is all good by me.

[lethal]

I'm fine with appearances. I was thinking instead of BA and OPS, we could do OBP and SLG.

[BeTheReds]

I'm fine with appearances. I was thinking instead of BA and OPS, we could do OBP and SLG.
Read moneyball eh?

How about this

Batters:
OBP
SLG
HR
SB
R
H
K

Pitchers
W
HR
ERA
SV
APP
K
WHIP

[lethal]

I introduced OPS to our league for the 2004 season. But I've actually never read Moneyball. I am a long time member of SABR though.

I'm not sure I like HR as a P category. It favors relievers who pitch fewer innings. Reliervers already have the appearances and save cats. Starters have Ks and Ws. WHIP and ERA are rate stats. I can't think of another useful rate stat for pitchers that wouldn't favor starters or relievers. BB/9 and K/9 are already reflected in WHIP and K. Same with K/BB.

As for batters, I have no positive or negative thoughts on the K category. However, if we go with 6 pitching categories, we should go with 6 hitting ones and Ks would be the one to go if we cut one of those 7.

[BeTheReds]

Well, I just thought... if a player Ks, he should be penalized.. Hmm, what about K for batters and L for pitchers. That doesn't really favor anyone, and makes it risky to send in the RP just for an app.

[lethal]

League Name: YW Fantasy Baseball
League ID#: 5767
Password: yellowworld
Draft Type: Live Draft
Draft Time: Sun Mar 12 6:45pm EST [ Add to My Calendar ]
Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: August 27, 2006
Waiver Time: 1 day
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: League Votes
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1250
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 2
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL
Stat Categories: R, HR, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, APP, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP

We can change the stat categories. SPs are more likely to get Ls than relievers and we favor relievers enough already.

Ks for hitters are no different than any other kind of out and that's already reflected in OBP. The fewer outs you make, the higher your OBP.

I actually like Hits as a stat category for hitters since we took out Avg. Maybe add BB/K ratio since its a rate stat that is neutral toward both SPs and Rs.

[BeTheReds]

Can we make the draft the weekend after that, the 19th?

[lethal]

Sure, but the evening slots were all taken by the time I registered the league last night. The draft would be either in the middle of the afternoon or at like midnight on the east coast. Middle of the afternoon is middle of the night your time.

Would Saturday or Sunday morning EST work?

I'm also going to add hits and BB/K ratio as cats.

[BeTheReds]

Sure, but the evening slots were all taken by the time I registered the league last night. The draft would be either in the middle of the afternoon or at like midnight on the east coast. Middle of the afternoon is middle of the night your time.

Would Saturday or Sunday morning EST work?

I'm also going to add hits and BB/K ratio as cats.


I'm on the East Coast now.... I'm just gonna be out of town and busy on the weekend you picked. You can have it at night if you want...

[lethal]

Oh, I'll change it to the following Sunday then.

Well that sucks. Every single weekend slot is already taken.

Weeknight slot work?

[BeTheReds]

Oh, I'll change it to the following Sunday then.

Well that sucks. Every single weekend slot is already taken.

Weeknight slot work?


For me, as long as it is AFTER that weekend, weeknights are fine..

[lethal]

Your live online draft is set for Sun Mar 19 7:30pm EST

Got 3 so far, waiting for the other usual suspects, my brother, CSB, AB, dada...who is the 8th person who usually plays?

[BeTheReds]

Your live online draft is set for Sun Mar 19 7:30pm EST

Got 3 so far, waiting for the other usual suspects, my brother, CSB, AB, dada...who is the 8th person who usually plays?


Trashbox is Annie... so don't expect Annie to join.

[cmar]

I'm in.

[lethal]

Missing AB, nutz, my brother and the guy who was Shark Sandwich (zenhen) for football. Was that AB's cousin?

[lethal]

Reminder:

League Name: YW Fantasy Baseball
League ID#: 5767
Password: yellowworld
Your live online draft is set for Sun Mar 19 7:30pm EST

Got 5, missing nutz, AB and one other guy.

[snailpoo]

Where is this hosted? Any cost to play?

[lethal]

Its on Yahoo, http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/

Its free.

[snailpoo]

I'm in.



Quick question: no maximum number of moves/trades? Doesn't that just allow everyone to snag new pitchers every day?

[lethal]

1250 innings pitched limit for the season.

[snailpoo]

ah

[achtungbaby]

I'm deep in there.

[deez nuts]

in the words of john cena: "the champ is hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

[lethal]

Draft is tomorrow. Be there or pre-rank.

[BeTheReds]

What a lineup!

[lethal]

I didn't like my draft. Trading time!

[snailpoo]

Quick question: Do you receive points for everybody, or do IF, Util, and BN not count?

And whats the difference between SP and P, or do starting pitchers earn points when they're designated SP?

[lethal]

Points for everyone except the BN (bench) and the DL.

All Ps, SPs and RPs get points. There's really no distinction except the pitchers you can use in each slot. I shou;d've made it all Ps or no Ps really.

[snailpoo]

Thanks for the explaination,

and

I didn't like my draft. Trading time!

As it's been plainly made obvious by my the recent transactions, I didn't like my draft either. 3 great 1st basemen... 0 backup elsewhere.

I really wish I didn't miss the draft.


...and now I'm trading a 7th round pick for a 17th. :rolleyes:

[lethal]

I have 2 excellent Cs. I don't really want to use one of them as a Util. Not sure of my needs, but I'll be floating proposals around.

[BeTheReds]

If Bonds and Clemens come back, you guys are all going down!

Can you imagine if it was 2004 and I had this lineup?

[snailpoo]

Two days in... and I'm even more confused. Can someone tell me the exact point values per stat?

Oh, and ... there's too few people playing, so there seems to be no real room to go out and find the next new prospect. It seems like all the teams are loaded with stars.

[BeTheReds]

Two days in... and I'm even more confused. Can someone tell me the exact point values per stat?

It doesn't work that way. Basically since there are 8 teams, you are assigned points based on your ranking in each of the categories we have. There are 14 categories, so the lowest score you can possibly have in this game (getting 8th place in every category) is 14. The highest score possible (first place in each category) is going to be 116, but generally people will have scores between 40 and 80.

If that doesn't make sense, follow the following example:
Lets say we are in a 3 team league using only 3 categories, R, H, and OBP.

Team R H OBP
A 6 7 .400
B 5 8 .420
C 3 3 .300

Team A is first in runs (3pts) second in hits (2pts) and 2nd in OBP (2pts). Total is 7 pts.
Team B is 2nd in rund (2pts) First in hits (3pts) and first in OBP (3pts). Total is 8 pts.
Team C is last in all 3 categories and gets 1pt for each. Total is 3pts.

Thus B is in first place with the most pts.

If however tomorrow, Team A gets 2 hits and Team B gets none, then Team A would have more hits than Team B, and move into first place in hits. Team A would gain one point for advancing one place in a category (2nd to 1st) and Team B would lose 1 pt for being demoted 1 place (1st to 2nd). Thus Team A's total points would be 8 and B's would be 7, assuming team C didn't pass either of them.



Oh, and ... there's too few people playing, so there seems to be no real room to go out and find the next new prospect. It seems like all the teams are loaded with stars.

There are 30 MLB teams to draw from and we are playing with only 8 teams. We therefore have roughly the best 200 players in MLB baseball

[snailpoo]

But then how did people end up with negative points?



There are 30 MLB teams to draw from and we are playing with only 8 teams. We therefore have roughly the best 200 players in MLB baseball

Ya, we needed more people playing.

[lethal]

Oh, and ... there's too few people playing, so there seems to be no real room to go out and find the next new prospect. It seems like all the teams are loaded with stars.

I tried to make the rosters a little bigger so we'd have to dig deeper to get players. I didn't want to make it NL only or AL only. There's still good players out there that get hot in the middle of the season or there are mid-season call-ups.

Last year I dropped Victor Martinez in May cause he was hitting about 220. He ended up as the best C in baseball. That was a mistake. Jon Garland and John Patterson were surprises last year. They're out there, even in an 8 team league.

But then how did people end up with negative points?

I don't think people have negative points. The negative numbers indicate the loss in points from yesterday to today.

Ya, we needed more people playing.

8's about how many we get in every league we do. Its usually the same 7 guys plus someone new (in this case, you). I do wish more people would play though.

[snailpoo]

Team A is first in runs (3pts) second in hits (2pts) and 2nd in OBP (2pts). Total is 7 pts.
Team B is 2nd in rund (2pts) First in hits (3pts) and first in OBP (3pts). Total is 8 pts.
Team C is last in all 3 categories and gets 1pt for each. Total is 3pts.


Whats the exact breakdown for points?

How many points is runs? hits? saves? obs? whip? Or is all points even between each category, and the number is awarded purely upon rank?


I don't think people have negative points. The negative numbers indicate the loss in points from yesterday to today.

How do you lose points?

[lethal]

Whats the exact breakdown for points?

How many points is runs? hits? saves? obs? whip? Or is all points even between each category, and the number is awarded purely upon rank?
Your last instinct is the correct one.

How do you lose points?
Drop in rank in one or more categories.

[snailpoo]

Whoa, I ranked my draft completely incorrectly then.

I thought points were assigned to individual performance and not by category rank. Doh. More trading to do.

[BeTheReds]

Whoa, I ranked my draft completely incorrectly then.

I thought points were assigned to individual performance and not by category rank. Doh. More trading to do.

Did someone say... trade?

[snailpoo]

Yes, someone did say trade.


I seem to be up an extra catcher. Anyone want Posada?

[lethal]

I also have a spare C to trade. Joe Mauer and Victor Martinez if anyone is interested.

[snailpoo]

This thread is too quiet, so I'll start the trashtalking.

Who's going to be the person who detrones me? I've owned the #1 spot all week.

Of course, I pick players by throwing darts at the sports page, so...

[lethal]

After 1 month, I'm stuck in 5th. I have no power and crappy relievers.

[BeTheReds]

My pitching thus far has been horrendous, but batting has been alright. If Clemens comes back, watch out!

Does anyone want Derek Jeter and/or Todd Helton?

[deez nuts]

After 1 month, I'm stuck in 5th. I have no power and crappy relievers.

you can have my guys since i've probably only logged on to check like three times so far this season.

[lethal]

cmar in the lead. Me and my brotehr fighting it out for 2nd. There's a steak on the line.

[lethal]

Final standings:

1. Dada Sox 80.5
2. Lethal Weapons 74.5
3. Trash Box Jam 74
4. Ninja Weasels 73
5. Discombobulation 70
6. BeTheReds! 56
7. suck deez nuts 50
8. The Revenge of KTOWN 26

Congrats to cmar. I was 2nd. BTR's friend 3rd, my brother 4th, snailpoo 5th. The rest you can figure out.

[cmar]

wow, can't believe I won it this season . . . lethal was gaining the last month and had me nervous . . . thanks to everyone for staying competitive. It makes my sadness at the Red Sox not making the playoffs easier to bear.

[snailpoo]

Nice job, guys.

[BeTheReds]

I stopped playing in July because I was getting ready to move to Korea... I'd have finished higher otherwise.