Asians "washed" by other Asian ethnicity.

[LaiSteve66]

We've all seen "White-washed" Asians, but have you seen Asians washed by another Asian ethnicity.

For example, in the CS department, we had some Indonesian students who were racially Chinese but they were completely Indonesian washed (I think).

I'm not ranting about it, I just want to hear what other people have seen.

[moJo]

i know Chinese ppl who are Filipino-washed.

[Player 0]

At one time i was Japanese-washed, now i'm all better, but now i find many Chinese are Korean-washed.

[ahsingjai]

There are Viet washed Chinese. There are Chinese washed Filipinoes due to Chinese schooling in the philipines.


There are a lot of ABCs who are Japanese or Korean washed.

[LaiSteve66]

At one time i was Japanese-washed, now i'm all better, but now i find many Chinese are Korean-washed.

How did that happen?

[ahsingjai]

How did that happen?

jpop entertainment and kpop entertainment.

[Player 0]

How did that happen?

The same as any ABC.

[Craig]

I've been called 'Chinese-washed'.

[SunWuKong]

For example, in the CS department, we had some Indonesian students who were racially Chinese but they were completely Indonesian washed (I think).

that's understandable if they are Indonesian Chinese and grew up in Indonesia. not so different as if some Asian American kid grew up in a white neighborhood and became white-washed.

[kasia]

i know Chinese ppl who are Filipino-washed.
probably bc there are a ton of chinese ppl living in or around daly city.

[TB4000]

I guess this whole concept would be akin to me suddenly thinking I'm from Nigeria.

[Paradox]

There are lots of Chinese-thais here in Bangkok and you can't tell them apart from other thais. I'm always getting mistaken for thai everywhere I go. When I hang out with my thai friends the parents always assume i'm Thai until they get curious enough to ask about my heritage because my spoken thai is atrocious. I don't think this is "asian washing" as much as the natural state of things. I believe when an asian person integrates into an asian society it's more equitable. Whenever an asian person "integrates" into white society there tends to be more complexes and social issues that develop.

[tapestrybabe]

there are asians that are adopted
by asians with a different ethnicity...

like the thread below...
a mien who feels hmong...

[uhhden]

Technically, my parents are Vietnamese-washed Chinese folk. Nowadays, there's a bunch of Korean-washed Japanese and Chinese people...and of course, there's the Japanese-washed ones too...

Just happens out of what becomes popular...

[Fireblade]

HK-washed
Taiwanese-washed

see alot of people who think they're japanese, but that can be applied to any otakus.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

At one time i was Japanese-washed, now i'm all better, but now i find many Chinese are Korean-washed.
Come on, this is not what we're talking about here, there is a huge difference between being interested in the entertainment of another country, and being "washed" in their culture to the extent that it's the only one you know how to function in, or the one you're most comfortable functioning in. Unless you speak fluent Japanese or Korean, you're not Japanese-washed/Korean-washed, you're just an otaku, which is a completely different thing.

that's understandable if they are Indonesian Chinese and grew up in Indonesia. not so different as if some Asian American kid grew up in a white neighborhood and became white-washed.
Most Chinese in Indonesia were Indonesia-washed due to government force, which is a lot different than in the US. Just look at Indonesian laws which illegalised public celebration of the Chinese New Year, publication of Chinese newspapers, or importation of Chinese books, up until the end of Soeharto's reign. Not to mention shit like SBKRI (Letter of Proof of Republic of Indonesia Nationality, which only Chinese people need).


Also to illustrate the difference between being "washed" in a particular culture and being a fan of their pop culture: Chinese soap operas (subtitled in local languages) have been getting popular in SE Asia among non-Chinese people, even more than local productions, but, to say the least, I wouldn't exactly call the average Indonesian "Chinese-washed".

[ahsingjai]

Technically, my parents are Vietnamese-washed Chinese folk. Nowadays, there's a bunch of Korean-washed Japanese and Chinese people...and of course, there's the Japanese-washed ones too...

Just happens out of what becomes popular...

I think it is ok for people like Chinese from Vietnam to be Vietnamese washed alittle, cuz a lot of them still know Cantonese/teochew when they left Vietnam and still consider themselves Chinese (Some don't). But for like American or Canadian born Chinese to call themselves Japanese or Korean because they are fanatic about anime or j/k pop culture is really annoying.

[SunWuKong]

Just look at Indonesian laws which illegalised public celebration of the Chinese New Year.

only in public right? meaning they're not going to go around doing police searches of people's residences to see if they're celebrating in private?

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Article about the end of the restriction on celebrating Chinese New Year in Indonesia, and other restrictions on Chinese Indonesians. (They used to ban lion-dance troupes too.)
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:O3V0e1fhvYQJ:www.laksamana.net/vnews.cfm%3Fncat%3D19%26news_id%3D2059+%22tackling +anti-chinese+discrimination%22&hl=zh-TW&client=firefox

[hannle]

i see most cantonese chinese who used to live in vietnam, still refer themselves as chinese, and try to associate with hong kong people, but there's also a lot of teochow people who are very vietnamese-washed. some of them don't even speak much of their teochow language, but just vietnamese.
one of them said i lost my vietnamese heritage cuz i can't speak vietnamese. i was born there but left at early age. how can i lose it if i'm chinese and speak cantonese? that is the culture i want to retain.this guy is the vietnamese-washed.

[ahsingjai]

Article about the end of the restriction on celebrating Chinese New Year in Indonesia, and other restrictions on Chinese Indonesians. (They used to ban lion-dance troupes too.)
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:O3V0e1fhvYQJ:www.laksamana.net/vnews.cfm%3Fncat%3D19%26news_id%3D2059+%22tackling +anti-chinese+discrimination%22&hl=zh-TW&client=firefox

I've seen pictures from the riot. The long term ban has already done it's damage. Unless there are new immgrants of Chinese to Indonesia, I doubt Chinese Indonesians will have any strong chinese traditions left in them.

[SunWuKong]

Unless there are new immgrants of Chinese to Indonesia

i think the riot probably took care of that "problem".

[Maru_chan]

i know chinese people that are japanese and korean washed. mainly because, as ahsingjai said, jpop and kpop entertainment. they still are into thier culture and speak chinese but they like alot of japanese and korean things. i guess you could also call me japanese washed. i onli listen to japanese music and i love japanese movies and other things such as that. im not even asian though lol...im black

[uhhden]

I think it is ok for people like Chinese from Vietnam to be Vietnamese washed alittle, cuz a lot of them still know Cantonese/teochew when they left Vietnam and still consider themselves Chinese (Some don't). But for like American or Canadian born Chinese to call themselves Japanese or Korean because they are fanatic about anime or j/k pop culture is really annoying.

I don't think they're necessarily calling themselves Korean or Japanese, they just happen to identify with the culture more highly out of greater levels of association with it. Of course, there's always different levels of fanaticism.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

i see most cantonese chinese who used to live in vietnam, still refer themselves as chinese, and try to associate with hong kong people, but there's also a lot of teochow people who are very vietnamese-washed. some of them don't even speak much of their teochow language, but just vietnamese.
one of them said i lost my vietnamese heritage cuz i can't speak vietnamese. i was born there but left at early age. how can i lose it if i'm chinese and speak cantonese? that is the culture i want to retain.this guy is the vietnamese-washed.
Yeah, when people immigrate from a second country to yet a third country, they tend not to teach their descendants about the culture of the second country unless they're very assimilated. And the descendants tend not to be that different (especially if the majority ethnicity of the second country is visually different from their own) E.g. I'm one of the only Malaysian Chinese descendants I know who can carry on a conversation in Malay, and that's mainly thanks to my cousin rather than my grandparents (even though my grandpa's Malay was better than his Chinese). On the other hand, I know at least some Japanese Chinese and Korean Chinese kids overseas who speak Japanese/Korean.

I've seen pictures from the riot. The long term ban has already done it's damage.
A lot of those pictures were faked, or taken from other sources (like ABRI atrocities in East Timor, Ambon, etc.).

Unless there are new immgrants of Chinese to Indonesia, I doubt Chinese Indonesians will have any strong chinese traditions left in them.
Even under the ban and discriminatory laws (or maybe because of the ban and discriminatory laws), Indonesian Chinese still maintained a hell of a lot more traditions than Chinese in the US. In HK I met a 6th-generation Indonesian guy who had come here for a job. He couldn't read Chinese well (mainly cuz there was nothing in Chinese to read in Indonesia besides the state-run newspaper), but he still spoke to his parents and uncle in Hakka on the phone.

[ahsingjai]

I don't think they're necessarily calling themselves Korean or Japanese, they just happen to identify with the culture more highly out of greater levels of association with it. Of course, there's always different levels of fanaticism.

No, I mean there are actually Chinese out there who pretend to be Korean or Japanese. Usually they are suburbians. I met this one girl who said she was Korean and she did not look like a average Korean and besides I didn't want to question her because I didn't care but then one time her mom calls and I start hearing cantonese on her phone and she got embrassed or nervous after that. If I was gullible, I could reason that she may be half korean but judging from how she reacted when that situation happen, I doubt it.

Even under the ban and discriminatory laws (or maybe because of the ban and discriminatory laws), Indonesian Chinese still maintained a hell of a lot more traditions than Chinese in the US. In HK I met a 6th-generation Indonesian guy who had come here for a job. He couldn't read Chinese well (mainly cuz there was nothing in Chinese to read in Indonesia besides the state-run newspaper), but he still spoke to his parents and uncle in Hakka on the phone.

I can picture that. Since Chinese Indonesians are isolated and discriminated upon, they probably have to do plenty of self educating. Altho I don't know much about the situation, I know a Chinese guy whose family was from Indonesia but he was more connected to Hong Kong now then Indonesia and spoke fluent cantonese.

[uhhden]

No, I mean there are actually Chinese out there who pretend to be Korean or Japanese. Usually they are suburbians. I met this one girl who said she was Korean and she did not look like a average Korean and besides I didn't want to question her because I didn't care but then one time her mom calls and I start hearing cantonese on her phone and she got embrassed or nervous after that. If I was gullible, I could reason that she may be half korean but judging from how she reacted when that situation happen, I doubt it.

I have a friend who is Korean and Chinese, but he pretty much identifies as a Korean, but he speaks Chinese... I don't know how to classify that...

[LaiSteve66]

I have a friend who is Korean and Chinese, but he pretty much identifies as a Korean, but he speaks Chinese... I don't know how to classify that...

A mixed race Asian falling over to one side, though this is a type of "washing".

[SunWuKong]

how about zainichi?

[ahsingjai]

how about zainichi?

what?

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Google is your friend.

For that matter, YW search is also your friend. Zainichi today:
http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=13339

[SunWuKong]

what?

ethnic Koreans that were born and raised in Japan.

[Laz3n]

that's understandable if they are Indonesian Chinese and grew up in Indonesia. not so different as if some Asian American kid grew up in a white neighborhood and became white-washed.

There's an old saying, "You are who you hang out with." People tend to act, think, and do as their close friends do. So if all your close friends are white, chances are you're going to be a little white-washed.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

There's an old saying, "You are who you hang out with."
How old can it be? The phrase "hang out" only dates back to 1844:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=hang&searchmode=none

[BBChinese]

Its completely natural to be influenced by our environment and it doens't matter so long as you repect others. All nationalities share many things in common such as respect for others, honesty, love, honour and etc. If we stick with these basics does it matter whether an individual for example enjoys more Japanese music than Chinese music Korean films to Japanese films?

Apologies for sounding a little airy fairy!

[n3bulous]

<--(recovering) flip washed viet right here

parents didn't teach me or any of my siblings the native tongue

as i got older (high school or thereabouts) the isolation of living in a sea of white/black became more and more oppressive, hopeless. no flips here.

somehow the predominantly black inner city highschool i was bussed to had a contingent of viets there. ghetto as they were (still are from all indications), something about them was familiar, something i felt in my gut. chemistry maybe. the way they looked (obviously), the way they acted, their "brain patterns" (lol) i guess. i "got" them, we "got" each other, at least, relative to what else was available (crackers, blacks). like a dude stranded in the desert finding a fuckin oasis. eventually they took me in. i learned the damn language. can read, write, speak viet, but not totally fluent.

reading viet is easy, it's fuckin phonetic for fucksake. it's understanding what the fuck you just read out loud (with northern pronunciation) that's hard.

casual conversation, i maybe can understand 60% of the words, which probably means i only get 20%-30% of the meaning.

basic conversation (eating, sleeping, basic shit, etc.), maybe 80% of the words, 70% of the meaning.

but, i dropped their asses eventually (after what, 6 years of going thru hell and back with them?). no choice. trouble with the laws. plus i had my girl, didn't need them anymore, right? guess not.

now left with nothing. on my own tryin to find my way goddammit.

[xtin77]

I am wondering is the majority of the Chinese race being influenced by other cultures both Asian and Non-Asian.

I don't really see much other races being influenced by Chinese culture as much as the Chinese are trying to be something other than Chinese.

Maybe Chinese culture is just lacking that vibrant "X-factor" that seems to make others flock to be Korean-washed, Japanese-washed or White-washed.

My friend's friend is Chinese but she was bent on being as Indian as she possibly could. Hanging with Indian people, wearing Indian-styled clothing and speaking the way they do.

Nobody wants to be Chinese anymore eh???

[AngryABCGirl]

I am wondering is the majority of the Chinese race being influenced by other cultures both Asian and Non-Asian.

I don't really see much other races being influenced by Chinese culture as much as the Chinese are trying to be something other than Chinese.

Maybe Chinese culture is just lacking that vibrant "X-factor" that seems to make others flock to be Korean-washed, Japanese-washed or White-washed.

My friend's friend is Chinese but she was bent on being as Indian as she possibly could. Hanging with Indian people, wearing Indian-styled clothing and speaking the way they do.

Nobody wants to be Chinese anymore eh???

This is going far, but I think Chinese people in general as a large collective whole across 兩岸三地 and the diaspora as a body with collective history never quite recovered when China was "chopped up like a Christmas turkey" and developed an odd inferiority complex to complement with being the middle kingdom. So a lot of Chinese people have a mix of beliefs that everything Chinese is great jumbled with foreign stuff is better. That and mainland China was nearly colonized, and Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan were.

Going back to this thread and pop culture, Japan and Korean pop culture is what's in. Japanese pop culture was pretty much always in, and more recent years, Korean. In terms of Chinese pop culture, Hong Kong and Taiwan have been anchor for pop production, but quite frankly, their production values overall can't compete with Korean, Japanese, and Bollywood productions. From a media perspective, an industry I hope to enter, Hong Kong and Taiwan really are not putting investment as much into their movie videos, music, tv, and film production compared to Korea, Japan, and as you mentioned, Bollywood, Korea and Japan was bound to dominate the market. China has been making some great costume dramas lately, but it hasn't been much to dent to Korean-mania.

But along with that, at least here in Taiwan, colonialism has had a lasting effect and this society is full of Japanese and American influences from pop culture, ie bookstores devoted to manga comics in very residential block, to the way businesses are run. And now Taiwan is looking more toward Europe more recently for some reason. As much as this place has improved over the years in many ways, including nationalism (good, bad, and ugly), some people can't shake the mentality foreign is better. The only bar/nightclub I went to that didn't only play foreign music and actually played local music was a gay bar. Many, but not all, of my more wealthy friends here try to take after American and Japanese culture more in terms of goods and the type of stores they patronize rather than go to the local food stall. A lot of the mom and pop food stands near my apt (kind of like 大牌檔)I go to seem surprised an overseas returnee type like me would eat there on a daily basis. This might be normal for a country that has only recently developed though.

But honestly the first thing I thought about when I saw this thread is how I like HK stuff, like I really like-it-kind-of-want-move-there-learning-cantonese-like-it. It's more as a result of living and going to school in Northern California with a bunch of HK fobs and living with them through what I consider very formative developmental years and being surrounded by the pop culture even when I was growing up in Los Angeles. I spend a ridiculous amount of money going to the nicer imitation 茶餐廳s and nicer Cantonese retaurants with HK owners in Taipei. I like HK pop culture because I find it more mature, better produced, slightly more westernized, and values things like wealth more than Taiwan's obbession with being cute and child-like crap that probably strikes a better cord with my own values and tastes. This may also be a result of the people I associated with rather than anything else. People here call me HK-washed, but whatevers.

[AngryABCGirl]

ethnic Koreans that were born and raised in Japan.

My very Korean friend (from Korea) once talked about how she felt sorry for them because they were rootless people. I thought it was kind of ironic and kind of condescending since we're living in America, but the situation is obviously very different.

[n3bulous]

random question: does it take extra effort to type in chinese characters (兩岸三地, 大牌檔, 茶餐廳s), or do you have shortcut keys or macros or something?

[USCTrojanzNo1]

One of my best friends is half Chinese and half Venezuelan and while he looks completely Chinese, he is actually Latino-washed. He hangs out primarily with Latinos and speaks much better Spanish than Chinese (and English for that matter).

But it kinda makes sense since he grew up in Venezuela and moved to the States when he was 13. He was raised in Latino culture so he identifies with Latinos more than Asians (though many of his best friends are hapas as well as Latinos).

[AliBabaIncorporated]

I am wondering is the majority of the Chinese race being influenced by other cultures both Asian and Non-Asian.

I don't really see much other races being influenced by Chinese culture as much as the Chinese are trying to be something other than Chinese.
This reminds me of the time I was trying to find someone to tutor me in Korean in HK. I ended up going on language exchange sites and personals sites where you can search by people's language ... but instead what I found is that 9 out of 10 people in Hong Kong who put down Korean under "native language" or claimed they were "fluent" were in fact Hong Kong Chinese girls who wrote their profiles in broken-ass Korean, or more typically, Chinese with a few stock Korean phrases. It was never HK guys doing this, only girls.

Going back to this thread and pop culture, Japan and Korean pop culture is what's in. Japanese pop culture was pretty much always in, and more recent years, Korean. In terms of Chinese pop culture, Hong Kong and Taiwan have been anchor for pop production, but quite frankly, their production values overall can't compete with Korean, Japanese, and Bollywood productions.
I dunno about Taiwan, but Bollywood enjoys no popularity in HK except among Indians themselves. A bit more so among Chinese in Malaysia, but even there, it's not really a commercial trend that anyone's figured out how to make big money off of, it's more of a grassroots thing; lots of Chinese kids end up studying alongside Indian kids at private colleges, so they exchange movies and bring them home to their friends and whatnot. Whereas the popularity of Korean and Japanese soap operas was generated by marketing power, commercialised through-and-through, rather than through personal contacts among Chinese people and their Korean friends. Local distributors had been importing stuff for years on VCD to build up a customer base and hoping for a big wave of popularity to hit; finally one day they struck it big and helped a Korean media company and a local TV station negotiate a deal; then along come all the hangers-on like the language schools teaching Korean, the tourist agencies offering Daejanggeum tour packages, the clothing shops selling Korean brands, etc).

(This distinction is probably one reason I get annoyed as all hell at HK girls fronting as Koreans or Japanese and talking about how they want to go to Korea and study in a Korean university and find a Korean boyfriend and whatever because they saw a Rain concert one time, but can't really get worked up about Chinese people with a similar interest in India ... my own uncle was even one of those types, always watching Bollywood films and going out to Indian restaurants and reading all these books about India. Then again, he didn't go out and learn Hindi or marry an Indian girl or go around calling himself Rajesh).

Another thing to remember, of course, is that HK culture itself has Canto-washed plenty of speakers of other non-Mandarin dialects. Like me and every other Hakka kid in Malaysia, for example ... and you observe a similar experience in your own life. And also, I keep seeing more and more Chinese shows on TV in Malaysia last time I was back, and they're subtitled in bahasa --- meaning you can be pretty sure it's not just Chinese people watching them. So it's not wholly accurate to say Chinese culture can't compete; it did at least manage to establish a foothold in SE Asia, even against the significant disadvantage that the content was "ethnically marked", for lack of a better word, as "belonging" to a local minority group, whereas Japanese and Korean pop culture competing for market share in SE Asia had no such baggage.

[AngryABCGirl]

(This distinction is probably one reason I get annoyed as all hell at HK girls fronting as Koreans or Japanese and talking about how they want to go to Korea and study in a Korean university and find a Korean boyfriend and whatever because they saw a Rain concert one time, but can't really get worked up about Chinese people with a similar interest in India ... my own uncle was even one of those types, always watching Bollywood films and going out to Indian restaurants and reading all these books about India. Then again, he didn't go out and learn Hindi or marry an Indian girl or go around calling himself Rajesh).

Another thing to remember, of course, is that HK culture itself has Canto-washed plenty of speakers of other non-Mandarin dialects. Like me and every other Hakka kid in Malaysia, for example ... and you observe a similar experience in your own life. And also, I keep seeing more and more Chinese shows on TV in Malaysia last time I was back, and they're subtitled in bahasa --- meaning you can be pretty sure it's not just Chinese people watching them. So it's not wholly accurate to say Chinese culture can't compete; it did at least manage to establish a foothold in SE Asia, even against the significant disadvantage that the content was "ethnically marked", for lack of a better word, as "belonging" to a local minority group, whereas Japanese and Korean pop culture competing for market share in SE Asia had no such baggage.

Yeah I've noticed that the Korean drama wave is a bit stronger in Hong Kong than it is here, thank god. Every time one comes on TV I want to make a noose and hang myself... For some reason I've grown sick of then and most other Asian dramas with any form of sappy love story when I use to watch them a lot growing up. It might be the dual progress of growing up more and kind of being disturbed at how much it influences people here. I am kind of like, good god, that is not how relationships work. If I were a straight guy or a lesbian I would not want to date a girl who loves to watch these shows. If I guy I was interested in told me he watches something like 微笑 Pasta I would run away. Call me jaded.

Anyway, you make a good point about Chinese media making inroads in SE Asia, a lot of my Hmong, Filipino,Vietnamese, assorted Southeast Asian etc. friends back in California had dubbed over versions of popular Taiwan idol dramas and Hong Kong 金庸 serials in their respective languages which I sure came from somewhere else in SE Asia. I think the thing that was getting me and the other poster was Chinese people annoyingly into Korean and Japanese culture. There's a lot more in Hong Kong, quite frankly because HK people can afford it more and that society is less homogenous on several levels, girls trying to dress up like exagerrated versions Korean and Japanese girls, but there's plenty here or want to be.

I mentioned Bollywood from a pure production values standpoint. These films are shot internationally and have amazing costuming and scoring, etc. But most of them are like Korean dramas, but condensed to a 3 and a half hour movie with lots of singing and dancing. However, I don't think they'll really catch on outside of the South Asian population because quite frankly, most Asians don't like watching people darker than them. The only place I have heard of Bollywood being really big in another Asian country outside of India, Pakistan, and other Turkic countries where you might expect it is Cambodia, where the films are dubbed over in Cambodian. A Cambodian friend said this was because the culture is very similar as a result of geographic proximity. I don't know what that says about Thailand and Burma then though.

[didu]

K/J-pop sucks, who's with me?

[xtin77]

Another thing to remember, of course, is that HK culture itself has Canto-washed plenty of speakers of other non-Mandarin dialects. Like me and every other Hakka kid in Malaysia, for example ... and you observe a similar experience in your own life. And also, I keep seeing more and more Chinese shows on TV in Malaysia last time I was back, and they're subtitled in bahasa --- meaning you can be pretty sure it's not just Chinese people watching them. So it's not wholly accurate to say Chinese culture can't compete; it did at least manage to establish a foothold in SE Asia, even against the significant disadvantage that the content was "ethnically marked", for lack of a better word, as "belonging" to a local minority group, whereas Japanese and Korean pop culture competing for market share in SE Asia had no such baggage.

I understand what you're getting at, but then again, your above example doesn't really prove that the many "non-chinese" who are watching all the chinese dramas are all rushing out to be more chinese are they? That's the reason why they probably put the subtitles there, after that do the non-chinese viewers actually feel influenced to go learn speak a Chinese language or hunt around the mall for Chinese styled clothes or listen to Chinese music? Probably not. I don't think they even say to themselves, "Man, I so wish I had a Chinese boyfriend/girlfriend right now."

What I'm driving at is that although yes, you see Chinese drama/tv shows in most households, its not exactly causing what one would term a Chinese-wave, just as the media is reporting how the Korean-wave has taken over every single girl enough to be easily influenced. Yes, I do notice that mostly its the girls who go ga-ga over these popular trends and hypes etc etc.

I absolutely hate J-pop...K-pop is agreeable with me, but I'm not going crazy over it either, just some selective songs I find good to listen to. Other than that I'm not gonna be gobbling evreything Korean in sight.

Seeing all the Chinese girls in Singapore either trying to be Jap/Korean or black (hip-hop) makes me feel a little sick in the stomach. Like they are brain-washed or something.

[didu]

Seeing all the Chinese girls in Singapore either trying to be Jap/Korean or black (hip-hop) makes me feel a little sick in the stomach. Like they are brain-washed or something.

Don't be such a racist, they will grow out of it, if not, that's natural selection at work. :wink:

[xtin77]

Don't be such a racist, they will grow out of it, if not, that's natural selection at work. :wink:

huh? racist? don't know where you got that from. Anyways, Im not racist, because I am part-Asian too myself and how does saying that the girls being influenced by other cultures and them not sticking to their own make it racist? Seriously. I don't get you.

If it's the part where I say "..the chinese girls in Singapore" well it is true, as Singapore's demographics is such where more than 70% of the population is racially Chinese, and besides, it IS mostly girls who are vast consumers of such pop culture portrayed in the media. I'm not being racist. I'm being factual. Moreover, the sick to the stomach expression was simply to mean that I'm a little disappointed that they rather be something they are not. I got Chinese blood and I'm PROUD OF IT! So don't go calling people racist when they ain't. Man, I'm offended.

[n3bulous]

^i bet you look hot when you're angry raaawwwrrr :biggrin:

[xtin77]

Body temperature wise, yes. Attractiveness, no. I'm as ugly as hell, big haha.

[monkeygone2]

huh? racist?

didu was just joking.

[didu]

huh? racist?

Gosh, it was mostly a tongue-in-cheek comment. I was just saying that it was a bit over the top to "feel a little sick in the stomach" when you saw Chinese girls trying to imitate other cultures.

[xtin77]

Well, no offence taken then. ^^ Or i'll die an old grumpy old lady

The "feel a little sick in the stomach" is just an exaggeration yea.....