flirting with asian guys

[noriko]

And here, by "asian" guys, i mean those who either come from very traditional AA familes, or actually live in asia.

How do you go about flirting with a guy you like? do you just wait for him to make the first move, or do you feel that most asian guys (not AA guys, i mean) are intimidated by "american" women (even asian women) and will probably not hit on you even if they really like you?

this has been my experience. on several occasions i've waited and waited for a certain guy to talk to me or ask for my #, or something, and he never does. So finally i just started figuring, ok maybe i have to make the first move. And when i did, i often found that the guy was just holding back b/c he wasn't sure if *i* was interested.

and one final bit of hilarity: there's a guy at my school who i really like. he is not only a pleasant guy, but is also really intelligent. i got to talk to him one night, and we had a great conversation....and he did tell me his name, but it completely went in one ear and out the other. So now i really need to find out what his name is, or i can't talk to him, in japanese at least! well unless i want to either be really rude and adress him as "hey you", or just speak in little-kid sentences ("food good? go movie?")

lol:)

[amietron]

go for it, make the first move. why not? if you want to get what you want, you're gonna have to give a little, too.

"ne, ne.. ohiru tabenai?" or "konya hima? futari de nanika shinai?"

[kimpossible]

You could bust out the keigo and ask for his name.

I've always had a really weird split reaction from AAs and fobs. AA guys disdain me but I attract fob guys like moths to a flame. Maybe I'm nothing but a big green card to them. :lol:

Sometimes the guys get a little too slimey for me in Japan -- kind of the Asian version of Asiaphiles. Some are like Americaphiles. Or hapaphiles.

[angel nympho]

I've gotten hit on (in the gross creepy way) by a lot more Asian guys than white guys. But from my experience, white guys have had the better approaches to me. 'Cuz I don't dig the whole "hey baby, you lookin' fiinnnne" type comments. Err, I dig them, I just don't usually take those guys seriously and actually give them my number or something. The white guys I've encountered (for the...most...part...) have been a little more conversational as opposed to... one-liner types.

Ok, that totally didn't answer the question in the post.

I'd probably not hit on a guy first, unless he was way TOO cute to let slip away. But sometimes I make eyes and stuff to catch his attention. Then let things happen. ...But I'm MUCH more likely to approach an Asian guy than a white guy... if I'm approaching anybody at all. I don't think it matters though. I usually won't approach a guy unless he's GORGEOUS and I don't wanna lose the chance. More times than not, the guy I find totally gorgeous isn't Asian. =T But I think that has more to do with WHERE I hang out than my... err... what some of you will refer to as my *subconscious mind wishing I was white*? *Shrug*

[loserbutt]

heres a hint, sound intelligent and laugh a lot

[ChinaLama]

hey, if a girl hits on me, i wouldn't mind. But i'd hope it's serious cuz if she's just playing w/ me...wellll....i'm a borderline 8-)

[babysakura]

Originally posted by loserbutt@Nov 9 2002, 05:58 PM
heres a hint, sound intelligent and laugh a lot
i think that's the basic stereotype for Asian guys. i've had a friend telling me that intelligent is sexy. :confused:

the asian guys who have approached me before will always start of with something lame like " errr...hi" *smile* *blush* *starts staring at his feet* or in worse cases, starts launching a interogation session or even start talking about just himself.

[Raymond]

Be yourself. If you are intelligent, it will show naturally. Oh well, Noriko. Tell us how it went last night!

[Hiroshi2]

I actually fit the Asian male stereotype of being shy and reluctant to apporach girls. Ugh. It's frustrating, I never have the balls to really approach a girl I like first.

[hormiga]

Take a class on flirting.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Nov 9 2002, 06:35 PM
I attract fob guys like moths to a flame.
:D :D :D

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by noriko@Nov 9 2002, 02:54 PM
And here, by "asian" guys, i mean those who either come from very traditional AA familes, or actually live in asia.

How do you go about flirting with a guy you like? do you just wait for him to make the first move, or do you feel that most asian guys (not AA guys, i mean) are intimidated by "american" women (even asian women) and will probably not hit on you even if they really like you?

this has been my experience. on several occasions i've waited and waited for a certain guy to talk to me or ask for my #, or something, and he never does. So finally i just started figuring, ok maybe i have to make the first move. And when i did, i often found that the guy was just holding back b/c he wasn't sure if *i* was interested.

and one final bit of hilarity: there's a guy at my school who i really like. he is not only a pleasant guy, but is also really intelligent. i got to talk to him one night, and we had a great conversation....and he did tell me his name, but it completely went in one ear and out the other. So now i really need to find out what his name is, or i can't talk to him, in japanese at least! well unless i want to either be really rude and adress him as "hey you", or just speak in little-kid sentences ("food good? go movie?")

lol:)
many guys in asia or fob guys can be intimidated by very westernized women. they think that these women, by virtue of being westernizes, wouldn't really be interested in them.

take the plunge and start the conversation!

[LeahLe]

I know what you mean. The guys I like I just don't have the nerves to go up and start a conversation. However, the ones that I don't intend to have anything more than just being friends I feel very comfortable chatting with them. The it ends up with the guy I like has no idea that I like him and the guy I dont like thinks that I dig him...... ;) and the vicious cycle continues.

[artsfartsyjanet]

If you're wondering, I just edited a spelling in your post. conversion --> conversation. :D Ah, the power of moderating.

[LeahLe]

Hehehe, thanks Janet!

I didn't even take a look back to make sure everything makes sense...or in this case spells correctly. hehehe shouldn't rush next time to finish an entry.

[Fireblade]

Well it's been in my experience that most guys can't tell if a girl likes them or not. If the "hook-up" is not a guarantee, then most will not even try. It's also hard for guys in general (at least with the ones I hang out with) to learn proper body communication. Most of us can see if someone is hitting on someone else if they're the observer, but all of that expertise is thrown to the ground when it happens to us. But I guess that's what seperates the "playas" from the rest of us.

[artsfartsyjanet]

I have a problem with making the first move with any guy I like. I've just started diving back into the dating scene but not really looking. :D

[LeahLe]

artsfartsyjanet Posted on Nov 12 2002, 01:50 AM
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I have a problem with making the first move with any guy I like. I've just started diving back into the dating scene but not really looking.  

I hear yah Janet! I have the same problem when it comes to makin the 1st move. My white friend on the other hand, has no problem whatsoever. She's really with the game. So I've asked her about her techniques. She replied "You just go up and talk to him."
Hehehe, its' not that simple. WEll, her tip doesn't help me a lot.
I guess it's just an Asian thing. we're just not as out going as our american friends.
;)

[deez nuts]

If the guy is too clueless to make the first move. You ladies should just throw him down, take him and ride him like a champ!

[SunWuKong]

so i guess you're afraid you'd get rejected? is there any indication at all that he would go for it?

[noriko]

see, that's the thing-- he's a japanese guy, so of course he displays no obvious emotion (at least while sober). I know it's a stereotype, but it really is true that japanese men tend to be rather withdrawn and not show their feelings much outside of the family...and he's only been in the U.S. less than a year, so he definitely hasn't become "americanized" in that aspect.

it's strange....i get asked out quite often enough, so i've never thought about asking a guy out, or really considered the aspect of rejection. i like this guy, but not enough that i'm really willing to pursue him....guess i'll just stick to letting the more forward guys make the first move;)

[seryb]

Originally posted by LeahLe@Nov 12 2002, 04:12 PM

I guess it's just an Asian thing. we're just not as out going as our american friends.
;)
We're Americans, too. <_<

[seryb]

I know it's not the case for every Asian American guy, but I know my perceptions as to whether a girl likes me or not is completely shot. I blame it on my predominantly White and Hispanic White environment while growing up in a small town on the east coast. Guys that look like me just don't get girls in these types of high schools. It messed with my sense of self-perception.

I was really surprised by the number of girls that like me in college. Usually, I'm oblivious to it until someone puts their phone number in my hand or starts nibbling on my neck or something. Seriously, I am that clueless.

The weird thing is once I am a relationship, girls that liked me in the past finally feel comfortable enough to tell me that they used to like me. Why is that? No fear of rejection because the opportunity isn't there?

I gave up chasing girls after the rejections in high school sufficiently bruised my ego. After that, girls just kinda fell into my lap in what I thought were happy accidents, but the more I think about it, they really weren't. :)

[artsfartsyjanet]

Originally posted by LeahLe@Nov 12 2002, 07:12 PM
artsfartsyjanet Posted on Nov 12 2002, 01:50 AM
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I have a problem with making the first move with any guy I like. I've just started diving back into the dating scene but not really looking.

I hear yah Janet! I have the same problem when it comes to makin the 1st move. My white friend on the other hand, has no problem whatsoever. She's really with the game. So I've asked her about her techniques. She replied "You just go up and talk to him."
Hehehe, its' not that simple. WEll, her tip doesn't help me a lot.
I guess it's just an Asian thing. we're just not as out going as our american friends.
;)
Actually, I just don't make the first move because I'm stubborn like that. It can be a hindrance when it comes to learning more about other people, and perhaps, I'm a bit contradicting because I really end up calling the guy more than the guy calls me. Whether that's a good thing or not...who knows. I just like company. But in terms of confessing my infatuation for a guy, that's a different story. Then again, I think it's normal to make friends before engaging in any relationship, but infatuation gets in over my head sometimes and nothing else but a friendly get-together ends up happening. And I don't like to compare myself with people of a different culture. So, I don't really consider myself not outgoing. In a way, I think I'm comfortable in my own skin. I also don't feel that I need to learn any techniques from anyone else either because finding a boyfriend isn't a priority for me. It's interesting to hear what other people have to say about being in the "game".... but I honestly could care less. Everyone's different, and eventually, I'm sure someone interesting will come across my path.

[ellsworth81]

Sadly, I fit into the shy stereotype as well. The fear of getting rejected is a huge obstacle for me personally, especially if i deem it important. Like if I get shot down for a job or something or like fail a test, it doesn't affect me as much as a girl rejection :D But it seems in my opinion that majority of guys wouldn't mind at all if the girl made the first move. It'd sure as hell make me more confident after getting some experience under my belt :P, and I don't know too many guys who'd turn away at least a normal girl.

I've been trying to rid myself of the fear, but it's been tough. Even as we speak, I really like this one girl, but I can't think of a way to ask her to do stuff. I usually just get to know people better in the initial stages through joint productive activities, and not through like "dating" kinds of stuff like movies, dinner, etc. In fact, thus far, the majority of our interaction takes place through AIM. :blush: We seem to chat often enough, but I just can't seem to muster the courage to ask her to do stuff. :(

In either case, men more often than not won't turn you away unless you are pretty hideous (and that depends upon the guy's preferences/standards).

[hormiga]

Originally posted by ellsworth81@Nov 17 2002, 12:46 AM
Sadly, I fit into the shy stereotype as well. The fear of getting rejected is a huge obstacle for me personally, especially if i deem it important. Like if I get shot down for a job or something or like fail a test, it doesn't affect me as much as a girl rejection :D But it seems in my opinion that majority of guys wouldn't mind at all if the girl made the first move. It'd sure as hell make me more confident after getting some experience under my belt :P, and I don't know too many guys who'd turn away at least a normal girl.

I've been trying to rid myself of the fear, but it's been tough. Even as we speak, I really like this one girl, but I can't think of a way to ask her to do stuff. I usually just get to know people better in the initial stages through joint productive activities, and not through like "dating" kinds of stuff like movies, dinner, etc. In fact, thus far, the majority of our interaction takes place through AIM. :blush: We seem to chat often enough, but I just can't seem to muster the courage to ask her to do stuff. :(

In either case, men more often than not won't turn you away unless you are pretty hideous (and that depends upon the guy's preferences/standards).
What kind of stuff? Just tell her what you have in mind.

[luv]

I think there is nothing wrong with making the first move. But it would probably be a good idea to find out about any long-distance relationships waiting for him in Japan.

[karizma]

hehe shy guys are so adorable sometimes...theyre refreshing when youre bombarded with guys whose idea of a pickup line is "can i get yo numba"...and plus, you know how it goes...girls love guys who they think dont have a speck of interest in them...the shy guys got it going on cause theyre too shy to admit that they like a girl =)...

ive been known to make the first move...not really often though...ive got that fear of rejection thing =P. ive got to be REALLY motivated or comfortable with a guy to actually admit my feelings for him first.

[mrazntre]

Originally posted by karizma@Nov 19 2002, 02:31 AM
when youre bombarded with guys whose idea of a pickup line is "can i get yo numba"...
:blink:


wasss wrong widdat?







:confused:

[karizma]

its all fine n dandy the first couple times but it gets on your nerves after a while...originality is the best way to score brownie points with me!

its like someone asking you to drive your car over and over again...you dont want them driving your car and you get tired of saying no..fuck off biznaatch.

[SunWuKong]

the best way to get a girl like karizma is to act like you don't want her at all

[karizma]

yea but who wants a girl like me? >=)....

i thought this thread was about getting an asian GUY lol...last time i checked i was missing a penis =)...

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Nov 18 2002, 07:30 PM
the best way to get a girl like karizma is to act like you don't want her at all
*throw bucket of water onto SWK*

[karizma]

oh no wrong bucket!! that wasnt water... :gross:

[SunWuKong]

i think that was karizma's bath water :D :D :D


:ph34r:

[karizma]

and i think it was AB's "essence"

[mrazntre]

Originally posted by karizma@Nov 19 2002, 03:29 AM
its all fine n dandy the first couple times but it gets on your nerves after a while...originality is the best way to score brownie points with me!

its like someone asking you to drive your car over and over again...you dont want them driving your car and you get tired of saying no..fuck off biznaatch.
mebbe you're not good enuff fo any originality?

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by karizma@Nov 19 2002, 12:26 AM
and i think it was AB's "essence"
eeeeeeewwwww...
that's almost as bad as the dark side of the force

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by mrazntre@Nov 19 2002, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by karizma@Nov 19 2002, 03:29 AM
its all fine n dandy the first couple times but it gets on your nerves after a while...originality is the best way to score brownie points with me!

its like someone asking you to drive your car over and over again...you dont want them driving your car and you get tired of saying no..fuck off biznaatch.
mebbe you're not good enuff fo any originality?
nah, guys are just dumbasses. :P

[deez nuts]

Maybe the guy doesn't make a first move because he's not interested at all romantically with you, not because he's shy. I hate it when the girls I first meet make the mistake thinking that I'm shy. When the truth is I'm not interested in her.

And when they pounce ya and make the first move you're caught between a rock and a hard place. As in: I don't want the baggage afterwards by giving her the wrong idea by thinking we have something vs the hell yeah, I'll take a freebie!

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Nov 19 2002, 11:31 AM
Maybe the guy doesn't make a first move because he's not interested at all romantically with you, not because he's shy. I hate it when the girls I first meet make the mistake thinking that I'm shy. When the truth is I'm not interested in her.

And when they pounce ya and make the first move you're caught between a rock and a hard place. As in: I don't want the baggage afterwards by giving her the wrong idea by thinking we have something vs the hell yeah, I'll take a freebie!
yeah... what an annoying problem... that i wish i had... :huh: hahhahhah!

bunboy you'll always be the resident pimp of YW. :P

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Nov 19 2002, 11:48 AM

yeah... what an annoying problem... that i wish i had... :huh: hahhahhah!

bunboy you'll always be the resident pimp of YW. :P
**throws water at MK's face**

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Nov 19 2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Nov 19 2002, 11:48 AM

yeah... &nbsp;what an annoying problem... &nbsp;that i wish i had... &nbsp; &nbsp;:huh: &nbsp; hahhahhah!

bunboy you'll always be the resident pimp of YW. &nbsp; &nbsp; :P
**throws water at MK's face**
i hope that wasn't your essence...

[Adaon]

Shy Asian guys. Heh, I personally didn't fall into that category until I broke up with my EX *once bitten, twice shy* :blush:
Anyways, I'm not the shy type usually, but if I hang out/talk with a girl that I talk to enough . . . . more often then not I get a friend instead of a date . . . . :lol:
It seems to be a thing that frequents me and some of my friends....but yeah, more girls should make the first move too instead of leaving it up to guys. Chivalry is almost dead, and the equal rights came up pretty far, far enough that GIRLS SHOULD MAKE THE FIRST MOVE!! *disclaimer: that was not a cheap shot at the women's rights movement, it was just a joke, please dun beat me?*


Ummm, yeah...so Noriko what happened with the guy?? :lol:
Keep us updated, ne?

[Chris]

Originally posted by karizma@Nov 18 2002, 09:26 PM
and i think it was AB's "essence"
sis you are disgusting hahaha

well believe or not I fall under the shy and relutant catergory. hahaha unless it online. I handle online rejection way better than hitting some guy at the club. I got tongue tied unless it a really cute guy. ;)

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Chris@Nov 19 2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by karizma@Nov 18 2002, 09:26 PM
and i think it was AB's "essence"
sis you are disgusting hahaha

well believe or not I fall under the shy and relutant catergory. hahaha unless it online. I handle online rejection way better than hitting some guy at the club. I got tongue tied unless it a really cute guy. ;)
hey chris you're back! hahhah and you jumped right into a thread titled "flirting with asian guys"!

:D

[iris]

Yeah I hit on Asian guys if I think they're cute.

[babysakura]

Originally posted by Chris@Nov 19 2002, 05:21 PM
well believe or not I fall under the shy and relutant catergory. hahaha unless it online. I handle online rejection way better than hitting some guy at the club. I got tongue tied unless it a really cute guy. ;)
i get toungue tied if i think the guy is cute...
or if i have a crush on him...

i don't handle rejection really well, so i don't really make the first move..

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by isyen@Nov 25 2002, 07:59 AM
Yeah I hit on Asian guys if I think they're cute.
Werd. If you look good, you look good. Race isn't really an issue about whether or not a guy's got it.

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by isyen@Nov 25 2002, 02:59 AM
Yeah I hit on Asian guys if I think they're cute.
Right back at you cutie!

:P :D :lol:

[hormiga]

Originally posted by isyen@Nov 24 2002, 11:59 PM
Yeah I hit on Asian guys if I think they're cute.
So give us a breakdown on how you would approach him.

[iris]

If I don't know him, I usually get a friend to introduce us. Then I just ask him to do something fun, usually rollerblading in the park, or a good movie, or lunch, or something.

If I know him, I just say "Would you like to <insert activity> with me, just the two of us?"

I think I learned from my brother. He's got no problem with approaching girls and isn't upset about it if he gets turned down. After all, it's not like I know the person real well yet. That's why I'm asking him out, to get to know him better. If I get rejected, it's not the end of the world. There are other guys.

The only thing I would have a problem with, I think, it asking out a really good friend. I'd be afraid of making the friendship awkward if he wasn't into me.

[hormiga]

Originally posted by isyen@Nov 25 2002, 06:14 PM
If I don't know him, I usually get a friend to introduce us. Then I just ask him to do something fun, usually rollerblading in the park, or a good movie, or lunch, or something.

If I know him, I just say "Would you like to <insert activity> with me, just the two of us?"

I think I learned from my brother. He's got no problem with approaching girls and isn't upset about it if he gets turned down. After all, it's not like I know the person real well yet. That's why I'm asking him out, to get to know him better. If I get rejected, it's not the end of the world. There are other guys.

The only thing I would have a problem with, I think, it asking out a really good friend. I'd be afraid of making the friendship awkward if he wasn't into me.
Is there a male 'friend' that you're attracted to and wanted to more than friends? And why do women have male friends? :huh:

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

Originally posted by hormiga@Nov 26 2002, 02:35 AM
And why do women have male friends? :huh:
The hopeful part of me says women have male friends because they add a unique perspective and are less maintenance-intensive than women.

The cynical part of me says that women like the attention and unrequited affection that they get from a male friend who wishes there was something more but doesn't have the guts to cut if off completely. I meet too many men who suffer in silence because they don't want to admit that they don't really get as much out of the friendship as they believe.

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Well, I always thought I'd be thrilled to death if a woman asked me out, but I always just clam up because I'm caught by surprise. Now I'm so conditioned to do the asking that I start wondering if something's wrong with them. It's a horrible thing to do, but that's instinct for you. It would help if the woman who asked me was someone I was initially/secretly attracted to but I haven't been that lucky yet.

[iris]

Originally posted by hormiga@Nov 26 2002, 02:35 AM
Is there a male 'friend' that you're attracted to and wanted to more than friends? And why do women have male friends? :huh:
Eh, I usually don't date my male friends. That's why they're friends instead of boyfriends. But sometimes relationships and people change over time. My last boyfriend was my best friend before he was my boyfriend.

I have female and male friends. I don't have a preference. Just whoever I can get along and hang out with. With guys, sometimes it's fun to discuss guy things with them or get their perspective on girls. Also, I'm a big gamer and none of girlfriends like to play.

[blkazngirl]

Here's some sisterly advice:

If you're both shy someone has to get up the nerve to speak first.

Flirt with the guy with the eyes. Let him know you're watching him. That will help break the ice. After you see that you have his attention, and he doesnt' come over to you, be brazen and walk over to him. And when you walk over, walk over like you know you're all of that and more. And remember to smile that sexy smile. :rolleyes:

* ********Warning********

*Never write a check that your body and mouth can't cash.

* Never lead anyone on unless you mean to go through with it.

*Never return to a drink and drink from it. Even if your "friend" was watching it.

*never go bareback. You maybe dancing with death.

*And no means "NO" :cry:

[iris]

Originally posted by VBKao@Nov 26 2002, 02:51 AM

Well, I always thought I'd be thrilled to death if a woman asked me out, but I always just clam up because I'm caught by surprise. Now I'm so conditioned to do the asking that I start wondering if something's wrong with them. It's a horrible thing to do, but that's instinct for you. It would help if the woman who asked me was someone I was initially/secretly attracted to but I haven't been that lucky yet.
LOL VBKao. It's happened to me before. Case in point:

Guy: "I really like you. Would you like to <go somwhere/do something>?"
Inside my head: "Say something reassuring Isy! Say something reassuring!!"

But all that came out was "Uh....." Damn, I'm eloquent.

I love my guy friends because they do add an unique dimension to my life. I can't imagine my college years without them. :luv: From them, I got my sick sense of humor and my love for The Simpsons. :lol:

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

That makes me feel a lot better. I do think many women use their guy friends for less-than-commendable ego-boosting purposes though.

Anyways, back to the subject at hand, I've heard that Asian guys are less forthcoming. It makes it harder for women to show interest because they just don't seem interested. I guess it's a vicious cycle of sorts.

Personally, I wish I could get some guts without needing to constantly psych myself up. I think women can smell the apprehension and get turned off before they get to know me. Not like that's a sure thing either...

One of my classmates was a former runway model for Kenneth Cole. Talk about easy street in dating town. Women actually come up to him with clear signals. Man, what a life.

P.S. - Why don't women like the Simpsons on their own? Why does some guy like me have to bombard them with the best lines until they start watching just to understand me? I tell you, women are unfortunate like that. You'd think Homer getting hit in the crotch by moguls would be enough, but NO.

[noriko]

aw man, are you serious? i don't know what kind of girls you've been chasing, but there are definitely some out there who are insane fans of the simpsons on our own. After all, where else would one truly learn about the human condition? I mean, some women think you can't change a man, but those women are just quitters.;)

i can spot a simpsons reference a mile away...in fact i think i can have entire conversations that consist of nothing but. sad, eh? :lol:

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

Sometimes when I'm trying to flirt and I'm having an awkward conversation with a woman who's not interested, I silently project the following thought:

"I'm normally not a praying man, but SAVE ME SUPERMAN!"

noriko: There's no need to be ashamed. I can do the same as long as you get the majority of the references from the 8th season and before.

[ellsworth81]

Originally posted by isyen@Nov 25 2002, 06:14 PM
I think I learned from my brother. He's got no problem with approaching girls and isn't upset about it if he gets turned down. After all, it's not like I know the person real well yet. That's why I'm asking him out, to get to know him better. If I get rejected, it's not the end of the world. There are other guys.

The only thing I would have a problem with, I think, it asking out a really good friend. I'd be afraid of making the friendship awkward if he wasn't into me.
Yes, I know that fact very well ... but not all of us have the luxury of having the opposite sex lining up outside our door :P , so that's where our fear stems from. you can just keep picking apples until you find one that isn't rotten.

And the friends thing is difficult ... do you think it's possible to still be friends after that ... or has that bridge been burned to ashes, cuz that's what stops me alot :(

[ellsworth81]

Originally posted by noriko@Nov 25 2002, 09:51 PM
aw man, are you serious? i don't know what kind of girls you've been chasing, but there are definitely some out there who are insane fans of the simpsons on our own. After all, where else would one truly learn about the human condition? I mean, some women think you can't change a man, but those women are just quitters.;)

i can spot a simpsons reference a mile away...in fact i think i can have entire conversations that consist of nothing but. sad, eh? :lol:
ah, good to see fellow impsons freaks. for a bit of off-topic trivia ... anyone know "And where's my cake?" refer to? :D

[iris]

Originally posted by ellsworth81@Nov 26 2002, 10:03 AM

Yes, I know that fact very well ... but not all of us have the luxury of having the opposite sex lining up outside our door :P , so that's where our fear stems from. you can just keep picking apples until you find one that isn't rotten.

And the friends thing is difficult ... do you think it's possible to still be friends after that ... or has that bridge been burned to ashes, cuz that's what stops me alot :(
Exactly, dude. They aren't lining up outside my door, hence why I ask them out! :lol:

Eesh, I don't know about the friends thing. I said I'd have trouble asking them out because I am afraid that I would have to burn that bridge. I guess only if I thought he was really worth it, then I'd risk it.

Maybe it'd still be possible to be friends. I usually have pretty amicable break-ups, but there'd still be that weirdness, ya know what I mean?

[Adaon]

Originally posted by isyen@Nov 26 2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by ellsworth81@Nov 26 2002, 10:03 AM


And the friends thing is difficult ... do you think it's possible to still be friends after that ... or has that bridge been burned to ashes, cuz that's what stops me alot &nbsp;:(
Eesh, I don't know about the friends thing. I said I'd have trouble asking them out because I am afraid that I would have to burn that bridge. I guess only if I thought he was really worth it, then I'd risk it.

Maybe it'd still be possible to be friends. I usually have pretty amicable break-ups, but there'd still be that weirdness, ya know what I mean?
Right on, folks. Doesn't it always seem easier to make friends with someone in a group of friends to get to know them instead of the whole nervous dating who's gonna make the first step thing? On the other hand, the whole apprehensiveness of rejection of a "friend" is just as strong as that nervousness that comes from asking someone, "Hey, would you go out with me?"

And that weird awkwardness just bites :unsure:

"Just once I'd like to be able to be called 'Sir' by somebody, without them adding 'You're making a disturbance' at the end." Guess who.... :lol: :P

[SunWuKong]

from a personal perspective, this is kind of interesting. because for almost a year or so now my priorities have changed and women are no longer anywhere near the top of my list anymore. so i've noticed that i never bother with talking to girls anymore. maybe i should start up again.

[ellsworth81]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Nov 26 2002, 08:14 AM
from a personal perspective, this is kind of interesting. because for almost a year or so now my priorities have changed and women are no longer anywhere near the top of my list anymore. so i've noticed that i never bother with talking to girls anymore. maybe i should start up again.
word. girls is evl :P

adaon: that would have to be homer j.