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power puff girl
12-22-2005, 03:38 PM
why do they have to play them all month long. i wouldn't have an issue with them if they were just being played for a week or two before christmas. but, they now play them even in november, right after thanksgiving.

and, i don't understand how so many radio stations can get away with playing religious christmas songs. if schools can't play them because it signals an official endorsement of a religion, then doesn't also apply to gov. granting radio licences to stations that then use it to play religious songs.

Flow to Live
12-22-2005, 05:09 PM
If you don't like it then change the station. Or you can listen to cds or mp3 player.

TB4000
12-22-2005, 05:13 PM
They're preparing you for the nightmare of the Xmas season. They start putting up decor as soon as November hits, thought you knew.

eos
12-22-2005, 05:16 PM
you mean october.

i fuckin hate christmas songs. hate the holiday too.

bitter, party of one.

Irezumi Kiss
12-22-2005, 05:51 PM
you mean october.

i fuckin hate christmas songs. hate the holiday too.

bitter, party of one.
Make that a party of two. I'm the original Bad Santa, lemme tell ya. You want holiday cheer from me, best pull up a stool and get set for a few rounds of JD's.

although at the laundromat a week ago I got a chuckle out of hearing "RuPaul The Red-Nosed Drag Queen" being played on the radio as I was folding my clothes.

eos
12-22-2005, 07:48 PM
the past 2 years have sucked, so why not this year too?

Faithless
12-22-2005, 10:52 PM
why do they have to play them all month long. i wouldn't have an issue with them if they were just being played for a week or two before christmas. but, they now play them even in november, right after thanksgiving.

and, i don't understand how so many radio stations can get away with playing religious christmas songs. if schools can't play them because it signals an official endorsement of a religion, then doesn't also apply to gov. granting radio licences to stations that then use it to play religious songs.
It's subliminal.

Under the melody to "Silver Bells" are the faint words, "Buy, buy, buyyyyyy!" :frown:

Jingle sells: holiday music puts us in shopping mood (http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=55fa2a6f-6336-4294-9ab8-a472c31fe55f)

Researchers identify subliminal effects; Favourite holiday tunes can calm moods, slow down browsing and buying process

Few people would detect anything sinister in the woozy holiday soundtrack of shopping malls, save perhaps the Grinch. But according to researchers, the sounds of the season are subliminally encouraging people to linger longer at stores and spend more on presents.

... (Can't see the rest because not a subscriber) ...

A.R.A.M.
12-23-2005, 11:52 AM
Well, I guess YW is the new front in the War on Christmas(tm). PPG, I'm reporting you to Bill O'Reilly. He'll know what to do with you and your evil, secular humanist plot to drive Christmas from the public square and YW. There hasn't been so much hostility to Christians since the early Roman emperors gave them as chew toys to the Colleseum's lions and tigers and bears.

I can handle Christmas songs with religious content. What I can't handle is Wham's "Last Christmas." I hate that song; it's an abomination. That is the kinda song O'Rielly and FOX News need to get banned from stores' play lists.

younggiftedandblack
12-23-2005, 12:23 PM
why do they have to play them all month long. i wouldn't have an issue with them if they were just being played for a week or two before christmas. but, they now play them even in november, right after thanksgiving.

and, i don't understand how so many radio stations can get away with playing religious christmas songs. if schools can't play them because it signals an official endorsement of a religion, then doesn't also apply to gov. granting radio licences to stations that then use it to play religious songs.
No because radio stations are privately owned.

Arex
12-23-2005, 01:20 PM
I can handle Christmas songs with religious content. What I can't handle is Wham's "Last Christmas." I hate that song; it's an abomination. That is the kinda song O'Rielly and FOX News need to get banned from stores' play lists.Amen to that. I don't mind any of the religious Christmas music (I don't even listen to the words 90% of the time), but that song is annoying as fuck. But I can't escape it. If it's not being played on XM radio for the 125th time in less than a month, I hear it being blasted while at the mall or while listening to internet radio.

PPG - As for why radio stations can get away with it, that's an interesting point. But I'm guessing the licenses are like any other property that the government might sell to the public. For example, if a religious organization happens to be the highest bidder on a piece of real estate at a government auction, then it should be able to build a church there. If the government was simply giving radio spectrum away for the express purpose of establishing a religious radio station, I'm guessing that would be an unacceptable non-secular purpose amounting to an endorsement of religion. I could be wrong though.

RX

bushido
12-23-2005, 01:28 PM
you mean october.

i fuckin hate christmas songs. hate the holiday too.

bitter, party of one.

Three Dogs Night - One, is the loneliest number that you'll ever do...

eos
12-23-2005, 01:56 PM
yeah. great. now i have to dig out my sad love songs mix tapes.

applehead
12-23-2005, 03:28 PM
aw. you guys suck.
i love christmas songs.
there's a station in nyc that plays christmas
song only during the holidays.

and it's just not christmas without
hearing wham's last christmas once in awhile.
i especially enjoy the hiphop/rock versions
of that song played on the korean radio.

oh. christmas. i loooove it.
oh and christmas songs too.

Faithless
12-23-2005, 03:36 PM
...
oh. christmas. i loooove it.
oh and christmas songs too.
And before you know it, it's over in a hearbeat. :frown: Then it's off to singing Auld Lang Syne with a bunch of sweaty, rowdy, pressed-up-against-your-body, people at Time Square.

kpih
12-23-2005, 07:14 PM
Must...get...evil...tunes...out...of...my...head.. .can't...fight...nomore...

Seriously, it's like the Borg...

I promise I will not be the Grinch this year.

Still, there is a limit to my tolerance.

O screw it! (Ha that could be a new song!)

Hiroshi2
12-23-2005, 10:32 PM
No because radio stations are privately owned.




Exactly. I remember me and my homeboy from up north were watching TV, and one of the local anchormen was doing a commercial (or I guess it was really more like a public service announcement) with a christmas tree behind him saying, "let us not forget the true meaning of Christmas - and that Christ is Lord." I didn't think nothing of it but he was like, "can they say that?" And I was like, "uh, yeah." And then that's when I had to remind him that TV stations are privately owned, hell they program nothing but church services on sunday mornings.



Well I don't really care about the Christmas songs. I got CDs. But for what it's worth - "This Christmas" by Donny Hathaway is THE all-time best non-traditional Christmas song. Christmas just ain't Christmas without it for me, that's a song that you hear all the time this time of year, and I've heard constantly every Christmas I can remember.

Yeahman
12-24-2005, 07:20 AM
It doesn't matter if it's public or private. PBS has a lot of religious content. Imagine if TV was not allowed to show religion. They wouldn't be able to cover the pope's death and election.

Schools can even play religious music. But they can't compel students to sing along which I think is a terrible loss. Schools are limited to singing Jingle Bells, Frosty, Rudolph, and Winter Wonderland. Much more significant (in terms of musical history) works like Gloria In Excelsis Deo and Silent Night, cannot be sung. I would loved to have learned a real traditional Jewish song when I was in school, instead of Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel.

But at the moment it seems like everybody's so worked up about removing Christmas from the holidays that Chanukah isn't even on the radar. My Godson came home from school with snowmen-shaped trinkets, a dreidel, and Chanukah gelt with religious symbols. Imagine the outrage if chocolate in the shape of a cross was given out at school.

I say all this now but the anti-religious crusaders will probably get their way. PBS's days of showing religious content are numbered. After that they'll go after the private networks. They're private but the FCC can still regulate "offensive content" and apparently Christianity and especially Christmas is considered offensive these days.

Oh and last Christmas I gave you my heart but the very next day...

TB4000
12-24-2005, 11:22 AM
Grandman Got Run Over By a Reindeer.

No one else finds that strangely morbid for a christmas carol.

Hiroshi2
12-24-2005, 06:08 PM
It doesn't matter if it's public or private. PBS has a lot of religious content. Imagine if TV was not allowed to show religion. They wouldn't be able to cover the pope's death and election.

Schools can even play religious music. But they can't compel students to sing along which I think is a terrible loss. Schools are limited to singing Jingle Bells, Frosty, Rudolph, and Winter Wonderland. Much more significant (in terms of musical history) works like Gloria In Excelsis Deo and Silent Night, cannot be sung. I would loved to have learned a real traditional Jewish song when I was in school, instead of Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel.

But at the moment it seems like everybody's so worked up about removing Christmas from the holidays that Chanukah isn't even on the radar. My Godson came home from school with snowmen-shaped trinkets, a dreidel, and Chanukah gelt with religious symbols. Imagine the outrage if chocolate in the shape of a cross was given out at school.

I say all this now but the anti-religious crusaders will probably get their way. PBS's days of showing religious content are numbered. After that they'll go after the private networks. They're private but the FCC can still regulate "offensive content" and apparently Christianity and especially Christmas is considered offensive these days.

Oh and last Christmas I gave you my heart but the very next day...




Yeah and see the crazy thing about it is, I really wouldn't give a damn if they showed Jewish or Muslim or whatever content on TV the way that they show Christian content. Cause all I would do is not watch it. It's just that the current liberal idea of removing "religion" and faith from schools/public outlets is not about removing faith and religion so much as it is about removing Christianity from those places. With Bush in office and a Republican-controlled Congress in place, you probably won't see any real doing away of x-mas and Christianity in America, but when the Democrats begin to regain political control nationwide (and it will happen because republicans continue to fuck up time and time again), then that's when you'll see the really liberal agendas being carried out. I'd say that about 10years from now, it'll be illegal to say "Merry Christmas" in public.

AznTrojan
12-25-2005, 04:09 AM
listen to music online..

www.pandora.com

it's one of the better free music sites

DragonKnight
12-28-2005, 03:41 AM
Grandman Got Run Over By a Reindeer.

No one else finds that strangely morbid for a christmas carol.
That's a great song. Probably one of the few Christmas songs I can listen to without wanting to yack.

A lot of the other Christmas songs I wanna hear during a bloody gun battle with lots of lead sprayed into a shopping crowd in Wal-Mart.
...now there's a cool movie scene to portray the recent shopping madness. Shopping Mall Massacre - A Christmas Special. :biggrin: