View Full Version : Anyone play badminton here?
Hi guys,
It suprises me a little bit that no one here has posted anything about
badminton which is one of the most popular sports in Asia and Europe.
I do realise that most people here are from America where badminton
is not so popular. However, you might like to know that an American
pair has just won the men's doubles title in the 2005 World
Championship which is one of the biggest 2 events for badminton in
the world.
Some quick facts about badminton:
(1) According to IOC, badminton is the fastest racket sports in the
world. The current record of shuttlecock speed is about 330Km/hour,
produced by a Chinese men's doubles player this year.
(2) In professional tournaments, a singles player might run at least 1
mile in distance for 1 hour's playing.
(3) The top 3 teams are: PRC, Indonesia and Denmark.
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grimfan
11-22-2005, 11:14 PM
Nobody has any respect for badminton here. Whether or not this is because it's Asian-dominated, I do not know. But stuck between the power game of tennis and that crazy miniature blur that is ping-pong, badminton is always seen as that weird game with the feathery ball and dorky rackets that either Asian nerds or church groups play on their picnics.
It pisses me off a little bit, since I know a lot of the big mouths wouldn't last 5 minutes against the really good players.
Nobody has any respect for badminton here. Whether or not this is because it's Asian-dominated, I do not know. But stuck between the power game of tennis and that crazy miniature blur that is ping-pong, badminton is always seen as that weird game with the feathery ball and dorky rackets that either Asian nerds or church groups play on their picnics.
It pisses me off a little bit, since I know a lot of the big mouths wouldn't last 5 minutes against the really good players.
I suspected that was the problem. However, one has to realise that
badminton played at even the lowest competitive level is vastly
different the kind of backyard sport that most people perceive
badminton as. Compared with tennis, badminton has a much larger
variety of shots and would require the players to cover the entire court
at 95% of the time, therefore it is much more physically demanding
than both tennis and table tennis.
The rackets for badminton are at least as high-tec as the ones for
tennis and there is nothing nerdy about them.
Please give badminton a chance and introduce this wonderful sport to
your friends and family.
D
returntosender
11-23-2005, 12:08 AM
badminton is more physically demanding than tennis?
I consider tennis players to be the ultimate athletes. Some games can last for 5 hours with little rest for the players. Consider that in team sports games usually last no more than 2 hours, and you have shifts, plus you're not always active on the court or in the field all the time.
I prefer watching ping pong anyway. That's really entertaining. Not as much as tennis though. I love tennis.
badminton is more physically demanding than tennis?
Yes, much more demanding. First of all, badminton requires a player
to constantly sprint forward, backward and sideways; it also requires
a player to frequently dive, then immediately get up, and jump, stretch,twist the entire upper body AND execute VERY controlled shots at the
same time.
Badminton is more physically demanding than tennis also because there is very little stoppage time, there is normally less than 10 secs
between each rally and only a couple of 30 sec breaks are allowed in
each set which can last for more than 45 minutes.
I consider tennis players to be the ultimate athletes. Some games can last for 5 hours with little rest for the players. Consider that in team sports games usually last no more than 2 hours, and you have shifts, plus you're not always active on the court or in the field all the time.
There is far less rest time in badminton than in tennis. If you watch a
top level tournament, the players would be covered in sweat in less
than 5 minues into each set.
I prefer watching ping pong anyway. That's really entertaining. Not as much as tennis though. I love tennis.
Ping pong is cool, but it doesn't give you even 10% of the workout that
badminton can give you.
Flow to Live
11-23-2005, 09:20 AM
Yes, much more demanding. First of all, badminton requires a player
to constantly sprint forward, backward and sideways; it also requires
a player to frequently dive, then immediately get up, and jump, stretch,twist the entire upper body AND execute VERY controlled shots at the
same time.
Badminton is more physically demanding than tennis also because there is very little stoppage time, there is normally less than 10 secs
between each rally and only a couple of 30 sec breaks are allowed in
each set which can last for more than 45 minutes.
There is far less rest time in badminton than in tennis. If you watch a
top level tournament, the players would be covered in sweat in less
than 5 minues into each set.
naw tennis requires the same amout of work but you would need more arm power then badminton. You still dive, move side to side and blah blah in tennis. And plus i rather get hit with a badminton then a tennis ball.
Ping pong is my sport i don't care if its less demanding its still fun as hell and thats why i play it.
Kennyb
11-23-2005, 05:02 PM
naw tennis requires the same amout of work but you would need more arm power then badminton. You still dive, move side to side and blah blah in tennis. And plus i rather get hit with a badminton then a tennis ball.
Bollocks to that statement mate. The difference between tennis and badminton is that badminton is more of an explosive sport to tennis. Some of the movements in badminton are far more dynamic and difficult to execute compared to tennis. With tennis these days, watching people belting the ball to each other at baseline is just plain boring. You try running around the badminton court at full speed whilst maintaining the full focus and strength to attack the shuttle cock. It's not easy and what are the chances of you diving on a tennis court these days? It's all big serve and baseline play these days.... :rolleyes:
For your information guys, I did play tennis a lot in my teens and the use of strength and movement on court is just not as fast as badminton. In tennis you can sparingly use the strength until it's the right time to attack. In badminton you have to make the first attack inorder to win the game.
I just came back from a league match tonight. Had two teams to play against. Best out of 3, therefore 6 games maximum and I was lucky enough to play it all. Now i'm aching all over since it's been a long time since I played at such a competitive level.
Flow to Live
11-23-2005, 06:55 PM
I have seen my cousin play baminton at h9igh school games and its soooooo boring but i guess i gotta get into it to now it.
tvbdude
11-23-2005, 10:47 PM
I like playing if non-asians aren't around. one time I was playing with my cousin, this group of blacks came out of their apartment and was watching us with smirks on their faces.
naw tennis requires the same amout of work but you would need more arm power then badminton. You still dive, move side to side and blah blah in tennis.
Moving from side to side is not dive. In badminton, a "dive" is when
someone prostrate-jumps to save the shuttle which is a few meters
away and only centimeters away from the floor, and when as soon as
his full body hits the floor, he has to get up immediately to save the
shuttle again until he is able to clear the shuttle deep enough or
his opponent final kills it.
And plus i rather get hit with a badminton then a tennis ball.
I think people have to stand really close to the net to not be able to
dodge a coming tennis ball, but people who play badminton gets
hit many times during a single set, because shuttle cocks travel
at much faster speeds in a much smaller court. The level of reflex
required in badminton is much higher than in tennis.
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I like playing if non-asians aren't around. one time I was playing with my cousin, this group of blacks came out of their apartment and was watching us with smirks on their faces.
You should've invited them onto the court and they would've realised
that badminton is no laughing matter ...
Bollocks to that statement mate. The difference between tennis and badminton is that badminton is more of an explosive sport to tennis.
Yeah!!! Finally there is someone who actually plays badminton here!!
In badminton you have to make the first attack inorder to win the game.
Well, that's only true if you play against people who are totally new to
the game. For good players, lifts sometimes can be as effective as
smashes, especially if they can lift the shuttle deep into your court
and in your back-hand position, or they can simply drop the shuttle
in front of the net to force you to come forward. Then there is the
stamina issue, if you have to smash more than 3 times consecutively
in a rally from the back of the court, you are gonna get a bit tired ...
I just came back from a league match tonight. Had two teams to play against. Best out of 3, therefore 6 games maximum and I was lucky enough to play it all. Now i'm aching all over since it's been a long time since I played at such a competitive level.
Did you play doubles or singles?
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grimfan
11-24-2005, 06:39 AM
Badminton players have to run more than tennis players, because they have to cover more court in less time. In tennis, you can get away with sitting on the baseline; you can't do that in badminton because the shuttle is too fast. The tennis ball is a sloth in comparison. And tennis players are hardly the ultimate athletes. The ultimate athlete is a boxer (any kind of fighter actually) or a football linebacker: incredibly powerful people with blinding speed and unparalled ability to destroy another human being.
Kennyb
11-24-2005, 10:12 AM
I have seen my cousin play baminton at h9igh school games and its soooooo boring but i guess i gotta get into it to now it.
Try watching professionals playing the sport rather than your cousin mate.... You'll see the difference.
Did you play doubles or singles?
Didu, I was playing a doubles match last night and i went home with cramps on both my thighs due to doing a lot of jump smash. As for playing singles, I'm just not fit enough to play that and it's a different ball game compared to doubles but it's one of the ways to build up stamina. I use to play singles with my cousin, where any points lost or faults made, I had to do 10 press ups. Think in one game I did up to 230 press-ups whilst playing the singles game. :eek:
DragonKnight
11-24-2005, 04:53 PM
Nobody has any respect for badminton here. Whether or not this is because it's Asian-dominated, I do not know. But stuck between the power game of tennis and that crazy miniature blur that is ping-pong, badminton is always seen as that weird game with the feathery ball and dorky rackets that either Asian nerds or church groups play on their picnics.
It pisses me off a little bit, since I know a lot of the big mouths wouldn't last 5 minutes against the really good players.
I'm 5'8", 160lbs. I work out occasionally but I hardly qualify as an Asian nerd (my past GPA can attest to that). Nor did I learn badminton from a church group. I learned it in college where my coach is a big, burly white woman who looks like she can tear off the nutsack of a lion, rip open its jaw, and shove it down its throat...then slap it across the face for good measure.
I haven't played for years due to my injuries. But I've done both tennis and badminton. They both have my deepest respect as a sport. If you encountered some badminton pricks, then it's your bad for letting that BS get to you and thus assume that no one here in the States have no respect for the sport. Cause I do.
Didu, I was playing a doubles match last night and i went home with cramps on both my thighs due to doing a lot of jump smash. As for playing singles, I'm just not fit enough to play that and it's a different ball game compared to doubles but it's one of the ways to build up stamina. I use to play singles with my cousin, where any points lost or faults made, I had to do 10 press ups. Think in one game I did up to 230 press-ups whilst playing the singles game. :eek:
Wow, sounds like you are a much player than I am!! I've been playing
badminton for a little more than a year and I still cannot jump smash.
About the cramps, someone told me that you could minimize the
cramps by stretching carefully during the warm-up AND cool-down
periods.
The state-level players in my club often play the press-up games too ...
it sounds like you are at their level ... how long have you been playing
badminton for?
Kennyb
11-25-2005, 05:12 PM
Wow, sounds like you are a much player than I am!! I've been playing badminton for a little more than a year and I still cannot jump smash.
About the cramps, someone told me that you could minimize the cramps by stretching carefully during the warm-up AND cool-down periods.
The state-level players in my club often play the press-up games too...
it sounds like you are at their level ... how long have you been playing
badminton for?
I've actually been playing since I was really young, somewhere around 7 but I got into it when I was 10. I stopped for a few years as I had to focus on my academics and then got back into it at 16. This was when my cousin came over to work and he use to be a state player in Malaysia. Eventually, I got myself injured from the game and still, more or less, carry that injury.
At my club I play at, there are people who use to be or are at county level, whilst i have a mate who is in the nationals - he's really quick at singles he is!!! :eek:
I would love to. But I suck in EVERY sport. :smile:
I've actually been playing since I was really young, somewhere around 7 but I got into it when I was 10. I stopped for a few years as I had to focus on my academics and then got back into it at 16. This was when my cousin came over to work and he use to be a state player in Malaysia. Eventually, I got myself injured from the game and still, more or less, carry that injury.
You used to be a state player in Malaysia?!!!! Holy shit!! You
could've come to my club and KICK EVERYONE'S ARSE!!! What was the
injury? Ankle, knee?
At my club I play at, there are people who use to be or are at county level, whilst i have a mate who is in the nationals - he's really quick at singles he is!!! :eek:
Oh.... what would I do to have a hit with the national players of Malaysia...... :redface:
Kennyb
11-26-2005, 06:21 AM
You used to be a state player in Malaysia?!!!! Holy shit!! You
could've come to my club and KICK EVERYONE'S ARSE!!! What was the
injury? Ankle, knee?
Oh.... what would I do to have a hit with the national players of Malaysia...... :redface:
You're read me wrong there mate. It is my cousin who use to be a state player in Malaysia. He trained me up. I'm no where near on par with him but I can compete against county players in England. :tongue:
My injury was a damaged disc on my lower back. It affected my left side of my leg where I get shooting pains if I stand or sit down too long or play badminton very aggressively. It's not as bad as it use to be 4 years ago, since I've been doing my physio exercise when I can and doing other forms of exercise which helps strengthen and regain flexibility on my left leg.
^^ sorry, I was a bit too hasty when reading your post ... but you still
sound pretty good at badminton.
AliBabaIncorporated
11-27-2005, 05:55 AM
(3) The top 3 teams are: PRC, Indonesia and Denmark.
Kinda off topic, but the 2001 world champion from Indonesia (Hendrawan) is an Indonesian Chinese, born in Indonesia --- but it took the intervention of Soekarnoputri to secure his SBKRI just so he could travel abroad for competitions. Fuckin pathetic ... and always makes me look down on Western media criticising the Indonesian government for their abuses, when the government's the only thing holding the nation in a state of normalcy direct against the wishes of all the rural idiots and the village civil servants ...
Indonesia is probably the most talented badminton nation, if it wasn't
for the Chinese-Indonesia players who returned to China a few decades
ago, Chinese badminton couldn't possibly in the form it is today.
Kennyb
11-27-2005, 09:57 AM
Well China's national sport is more gymnastics or table tennis.
Well China's national sport is more gymnastics or table tennis.
Gymnasitics is not really the national sport of China -- it's a sport that
China has traditionally done well in the past -- although they are
struggling at the moment.
Table tennis is probably the most popular sport in China and the real
national sport, and China has done pretty well in TT for the last a few
decades -- although they are struggling a little a bit at the moment
too.
Badminton has always lived in the shadow of TT in China and it's
starting to come out of the shadow in the last a few years.
for those who think badminton is a back yard sport, here is a video
that would prove you wrong:
http://www.dsyq.com/danglao/nanshuang1.rmvb
Chinasaur
12-01-2005, 03:32 PM
Badminton is awesome. Unfortunately I haven't really played since highschool, which was a few years ago.
proazn
12-08-2005, 04:58 PM
Badminton is an individual sport played for personal glory. America likes team sports where it's a big business because you can get city sponsors...etc..etc.
Badminton is an individual sport played for personal glory. America likes team sports where it's a big business because you can get city sponsors...etc..etc.
Isn't tennis also an individual sport? Is tennis big in America? In fact,
international badminton competitions are always team sports because
every player is a member of a particular national team.
Nakata
12-08-2005, 11:19 PM
I both play it and watch it...it doesn`t get a lot of TV coverage though ...lol there aren`t even any video game sims of it either...
bushido
12-09-2005, 12:41 AM
I played it in High School PE.
I played about 2 hours of badminton tonight, and had 2 great games.
In the first one, my partner and I were down 13-19 (we play 21 point
games in our club), and we gritted our teeth (well, I gritted mine, my
partner might not have any teeth to grit -- he's 70 something years
old) and played some great points and ended up winning 23-20!
In the second game, my other partner and I were down 3-17, and
somehow we ended up winning 23-20, again!!! One of my opponents
was actually a much better player than both my partner and I, but
we won!!! He was not very happy though. :biggrin:
I know most of you are not really interested, but I'm just really happy
about my games tonight, sorry about the babbling ...
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