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Bhodi_Li
11-22-2005, 12:16 PM
Any fans of this show out there?

FX network ends Iraq war drama Over There (http://www.tv.com/story/story.html&story_id=2218)

FX network ends Iraq war drama Over There

November 2, 2005 at 09:58:00 AM

Steven Bochco's take on Iraq war gets honorable discharge from FX following ratings-starved first season.

It's Over. Cable television's FX channel has decided not to renew the critically praised Iraq war drama Over There for a second season due to weak ratings during the show's initial 13-episode run, the network said Tuesday.

Over There, a first-of-its-kind contemporary war drama about US troops in combat and their families back home, was cocreated by Steven Bochco, the veteran TV producer behind such landmark cop shows as Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue.

While Over There garnered mostly favorable reviews, the gritty, albeit fictionalized, depiction of a real war that has grown increasingly unpopular with the American public ultimately proved a turnoff to TV viewers.

Although the series contained references to real-life events that have stirred debate over the war, including the Abu Ghraib prisoner-abuse scandal, the producers sought to avoid overt political messages about the conflict.

The show got off to a promising start July 27 with 4.1 million viewers tuning in, a fairly healthy launch by cable TV standards, but the audience steadily declined from there.

Through the 13th and final episode on Oct. 26, the program averaged a meager 2.1 million viewers overall. Only 1.35 million watched the series finale.

"It became evident to us that the American public didn't want to see a dramatization of a war that was already going on," Yemaya Royce, a spokeswoman for Bochco's production company, told Reuters.

"It made people uncomfortable to watch. I think that was the case for a lot of people," FX spokesman John Solberg added. "Clearly it was subject matter that was harsh."

Said FX president and general manager John Landgraf: "The series was arguably the most critically acclaimed new television show of the year, a fact which made the decision not to renew it all the more difficult."

Launching any new TV show is always a gamble. But for Bochco, the stakes were especially high for Over There, his first series on basic cable following a string of misfires on network television, including the ABC crime and legal dramas Blind Justice, Philly, and Total Security.

Bochco recently took over as producer for the ABC political drama Commander In Chief and signed a three-year production deal with sister studio Touchstone Television.

Both ABC and Touchstone are units of the Walt Disney. The FX network is owned by News Corp. Ltd.

Story Copyright © 2005 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.


Personally I prefer Discovery's Off to War (http://times.discovery.com/convergence/offtowar/offtowar.html) much better. It does a better job covering the family life (although if they really wanted to cover the family life they would show all the kids screaming and throwing fits LOL) and you get to hear the thoughts of the soldiers, both officer and enlisted.

'Over There' was too Hollywood and unrealistic for me. However, I was thankful that FX made the attempt and thought the series had a lot of potential. Maybe someone else will pick it up.:frown:

Banana
11-22-2005, 12:22 PM
I also like "Off to War" in that you see soldiers and how they really think rather than being scripted and I'm interested when most of them don't think they should be there, think the war is futile, and scoff at the extra money the Army has been offering because of low recruitment.

What's also interesting is the way they "really" think of the Iraqis.

hooligan
11-22-2005, 12:43 PM
What did you think of Jarhead?

A.R.A.M.
11-22-2005, 01:58 PM
I enjoyed Over There somewhat. It had my favorite military characters: terminally moronic officers; culturally arrogant war profiteers; the warrior philosopher; and the disillusioned, let's-just-get-this-shit-over-with sergeant. However, the show's turning the war into a source of entertainment always made me feel uneasy.

Bhodi_Li
11-22-2005, 04:04 PM
What did you think of Jarhead?I haven't seen it yet. The last movie that I saw was Chicken Little with the kids. Since it's about Desert Storm I'm not sure how much I'll be able to relate to it vs. any movie about OIF.

I enjoyed Over There somewhat. It had my favorite military characters: terminally moronic officers; culturally arrogant war profiteers; the warrior philosopher; and the disillusioned, let's-just-get-this-shit-over-with sergeant. However, the show's turning the war into a source of entertainment always made me feel uneasy.Like 'Saving Private Ryan,' Over There was full of original characters that had been used over and over again. I guess that was one of the biggest things that annoyed me about the show. Well, that and the really horrible tactics, techniques and procedures (TTP) that were used.

nonamerasian
11-22-2005, 04:49 PM
No more Dim?

*sigh*

I liked to catch the show, but didn't get to watch much of it because I was often babysitting.

Not exactly kid-appropriate.

I hope they rerun, though.

Martino
11-23-2005, 04:46 PM
I also like "Off to War" in that you see soldiers and how they really think rather than being scripted and I'm interested when most of them don't think they should be there, think the war is futile, and scoff at the extra money the Army has been offering because of low recruitment.

don't hafta turn every thread into an anti-war thread ......

Henry47
11-24-2005, 11:10 PM
damn that sucks. I was able to catch some episodes this season but not all. I thought I would rent the first season on dvd and catch up before the second season. Guess that won't be happening

Chad
11-25-2005, 08:56 AM
I think it's kind of obscene to make a drama about the war while it's still going on. I rather just watch ogrish.com for war coverage.

Marshall Law
11-25-2005, 04:10 PM
I'm not surprised its cancelled..

making a war drama about a war thats still in progress is might seem edgy but its very risky...

There was a reason why MASH (a comment on vietnam) was set in Korea..or why there were no straight up shows about vietnam until 20 years later and Hogans Heroes (about WW2 POWs) wasn't made during WW2.

There are alot of people caught up in the REAL gulf war so why be reminded or watch a dramatized version when you're really dealing with those issues..