View Full Version : Should Asian Cinema allow some to western to be in more asian movies.
Dei Wong
11-07-2005, 02:55 PM
Maybe if Asian Cinema open its doors a little it would open roles for asians in america. I read once some asians feel that americans don't respect asian cinema enough in some ways they are very right. But maybe if they allowed more westerners to come over and work in movies they would have a better understanding. Alot of americans even if they won't say it out loud feels that asian counties are kind of close societies and feel if they won't open up to me I won't open up to you. This way no one will learn more about the other person. That misconceptions about each other will stay the way they are. What do you guys think?
SunWuKong
11-07-2005, 03:28 PM
there are celebrities in HK that are Asian American and Asian Canadians. but the better their Cantonese is, the more doors it opens for them in the HK entertainment industry.
Dei Wong
11-07-2005, 03:39 PM
there are celebrities in HK that are Asian American and Asian Canadians. but the better their Cantonese is, the more doors it opens for them in the HK entertainment industry.
I agree one who fights heaven but won't they get more rolls here if producers and some nonasian actors got the chance to go and work in asia. Cause most american see asians american asians or not as people who only know certain things and can act or behave a certain way which is very very wrong. This is why asians keep getting the same roles. I mean if they have westerner go over there and see just how diverse they by working with them things would get better over here. What do you think Great Monkey King.
VV o n g B a
11-07-2005, 03:55 PM
there was an american woman that worked in beijing's tv soap operas that published a book about it recently.
american movie stars go to japan to film commercials all the time.
other races are routinely featured in music videos from asia. i think one problem asian moviemakers would face is paying the salaries of these major hollywood stars w/ their typically much smaller budgets. just a guess tho.
nameless
11-07-2005, 07:17 PM
I agree one who fights heaven but won't they get more rolls here if producers and some nonasian actors got the chance to go and work in asia. Cause most american see asians american asians or not as people who only know certain things and can act or behave a certain way which is very very wrong. This is why asians keep getting the same roles. I mean if they have westerner go over there and see just how diverse they by working with them things would get better over here. What do you think Great Monkey King.
America knows full well the capabilities of Asian/Asian American actors. They can rent movies just as easily as you or I can. Hollywood just doesn't want to.
SunWuKong
11-07-2005, 08:20 PM
I agree one who fights heaven but won't they get more rolls here if producers and some nonasian actors got the chance to go and work in asia. Cause most american see asians american asians or not as people who only know certain things and can act or behave a certain way which is very very wrong. This is why asians keep getting the same roles. I mean if they have westerner go over there and see just how diverse they by working with them things would get better over here. What do you think Great Monkey King.
i'm not sure i understand what you're talking about anymore, actually. are you saying movies from Asia will get more exposure in the US if it featured more white American talent?
Dei Wong
11-08-2005, 07:32 AM
No! I'm saying people should started working together more. That way people will get to see first hand what each other can really do. People would get a better understanding if they can go to the other person's house for a while. I'm saying if both side are willing to open up to working more with each other things would be better for everyone. People here may not think of giving asians the same roles over and over.
SunWuKong
11-08-2005, 10:03 AM
No! I'm saying people should started working together more. That way people will get to see first hand what each other can really do. People would get a better understanding if they can go to the other person's house for a while. I'm saying if both side are willing to open up to working more with each other things would be better for everyone. People here may not think of giving asians the same roles over and over.
it's really not a problem for Asian cinema to open up. i gurantee you if Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt want to do an Asian movie, there would be piles of scripts and many production companies lined up for them.
Dei Wong
11-08-2005, 01:26 PM
I think your right but few actors like Anthony Wong has talk bad about westerner films and actors. He even talks about actors and directors who go to the west to work in movies. But on a whole dude I do think your right Hollywood should open the door for asians and other ethnic groups. I guess when someone can say you look too ethnic for a part there is a problem with the system.
hooligan
11-08-2005, 03:22 PM
Doesn't Hong Kong cinema already hire a lot of white people to play villians? Woo hoo, take THAT equality.
SunWuKong
11-08-2005, 03:30 PM
Doesn't Hong Kong cinema already hire a lot of white people to play villians? Woo hoo, take THAT equality.
not a lot. but every once in a while, yes.
there's also this white guy that speaks really good Cantonese and TVB had him co-hosting this travel and tourism program about mainland China. i think he was supposed to play the dumb foreigner that's clueless to Chinese culture. the ironic thing is that if he speaks Cantonese as good as he does, he's probably not that clueless about Chinese culture. oh, and he also plays every generic and minor white guy character that TVB ever has need of in any TV series.
hooligan
11-08-2005, 03:31 PM
What is Chinese culture? Don't you mean Hong Kong culture?
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Napoleon Chynamite
11-08-2005, 06:12 PM
From what I remember with the Hong Kong movies I used to watch as a kid, all the foreigners in there spoke horrible Chinese (I'm not sure whether they dubbed it purposely with that accent to imitate what a foreigner would sound like [with the voice of another foreigner perhaps? I have no idea] or if it was actually the foreigners talking) and they were always bad guys. On the other hand, they were also represented in the form of figures of authority (with little to no lines, but that's not the point), most probably because of the under-British-rule status that HK was still in at the time. I haven't watched enough mainland cinema to comment. I haven't really seen many foreigners in prominent roles featured in Japanese or Korean films, but I dunno.
Shuriken
11-09-2005, 02:00 PM
While not especially conspicuous, there is a long history of Occidental actors appearing in Asian films, from Nick Adams in Ishiro Honda’s Invasion of the Astro-Monster to Richard Gere in Akira Kurosawa’s Rhapsody in August. I understand that Nicole Kidman will star in Wong Kar-Wai’s next film.
hooligan
11-09-2005, 02:16 PM
So, I watched Rhapsody in August and I was hella confused. Here I am watching what I thought to be a post-war movie about a family and out pops Richard Gere. It was frightening.
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