Election Day!

[ChinaLama]

Well, in a few (5? 10? shrugz) hours or so, I'll be casting my first vote (didn't vote 2 yrs straight since I became a citizen, so trying to break out of the Apathetic American mode). But I haven't acquainated myself w/ the candidates at ALL so I'm basically gonna be doing it blind. The way I cynically figure it, all politicians are pulled by the same interests, so it won't make a huge difference who I vote for. But I think I gotta at least start getting myself into the habit of voting, even though uninformed voting seems kind of dangerous.


great...now i know how Bush beat Gore and Clinton beat Bush, despite their opponent's much more impressive dossiers.

wouldn't mind some advice fr any fellow NYers on whom to vote for, though. I'll probably do Jimmy Meng for state assembly (errr cuz I don't like republicans and I don't know the other candidates) and Carl McCall for governor (8 yrs is enough for Pataki, a city guy like McCall is more likely to care about city interests, and umm it'd be cool to have a black governor?...damn i sound like a racist)

[deez nuts]

Jimmy Meng and Pataki for me, those are the two big ones.

[artsfartsyjanet]

I just came back a few minutes ago from voting for my candidate and a bunch of other propositions I needed to decide. If you don't know the candidates very much and what they stand for... you might want to look on a reliable source on the internet for the issues they either are fore or against. In Missouri, I voted for Jean Carnahan.

[seryb]

www.issues2002.org

Check out your candidate's positions on the various topics! :)

[seryb]

artsyfartsy is cute. :lol:

[seryb]

Originally posted by seryb@Nov 5 2002, 07:01 AM
artsyfartsy is cute. :lol:
I feel dumb. :(

[artsfartsyjanet]

Originally posted by seryb@Nov 5 2002, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by seryb@Nov 5 2002, 07:01 AM
artsyfartsy is cute.   :lol:
I feel dumb. :(
I'll take it as a compliment. Thanks. :) :dance:

*hugs*

[ChinaLama]

Well, I decided to go Democrat across the board. The rest of the issues don't make much of a difference to me. Cuz it seems that Democrats and Republicans may have dif approaches, but b/c of pressure fr interest groups and constituents, roughly similar results will occur. But Pataki didn't even MENTION civil rights or anything like that in his record, but McCall is for gay rights. And I figure if someone is for gay rights, and he's a straight black man, he and Democrats across the board will be more sensitive to civil rights issues than Republicans will.

I was gonna vote for Jimmy Meng but he was on the conservative ticket too, so I voted for Ethel Chen instead, same reasoning: liberal party more likely to be sensitive to civil rights, and everyone's sensitive to business anyway (they'd better be if they're fr flushing, home of everything except legitimate merchandise).

I saw Julia Harrison, who lives in the building across fr mine, on the ballot of State Assembly or something, but I passed over her for the incumbent cuz I vaguely remember hearing something about how she was anti-immigrant.

Well, so uninformed American I remain, but apathetic no longer! Hopefully now that I've started voting, next time I'll inform myself better and vote like a SERIOUS citizen.

[deez nuts]

McCall also put imcompetent family members into government positions. I hate nepotism with a passion. I had enough of that shit when I was in college and med school. Besides McCall strikes me as incompetent.

[ChinaLama]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Nov 5 2002, 05:42 PM
McCall also put imcompetent family members into government positions. I hate nepotism with a passion. I had enough of that shit when I was in college and med school. Besides McCall strikes me as incompetent.
oh well, i didn't know enough about all the issues, so i had no idea about any nepotism. I think McCall was a pretty competent comptroller, but his proposed programs did seem a little contradictory to me. I mean, FORCE a balanced budget, cut property taxes, BUT universal health care and raise education spending by 8 bil? Made me a bit skeptical. But whateverz, politicians can't get away w/ all their loony dreams, so i'm confident the system will work things out to be moderate (but hopefully not mediocre. :P)

[deez nuts]

But in the real... i'd vote for the llama of YW if he were to run here in NY, hands down and no doubt!

[ChinaLama]

nah dude, i'm just a lackey. I think Bao Dailou should take control of the NY operation (heheh...unintended pun :lol:).

[Chris]

I'm going to the polls just as soon I get off work. There a lot of issues in the San Francisco ballots. But there is A LOT of us who is disgruntled with the choices of governor. Heck some of us are writing in "Satan - Cut out the middle person" . So I am not voting for governor. I am less disappointed with the choices with the other candidates in the other offices.


I have voted in every election since I was 18 and only miss one minor local election. Anything from mayor up, I have voted on.

[Chris]

Update Election Results

Senate

50 Republican
46 Democrats
1 Independent
2 undecided (South Dakota and Minnesota)
1 run off (Louisana)

Republican control Senate

House of Representative

225 Republican
197 Democrats
2 Independent
12 undecided

Republican control House

6 Republican Governors
8 Democrats Governors (2 female govenors)
3 undecided. (Hawaii, Alaska and Arizona) ( in all 3, females governor ship is at stake)

Democrats to pick up 3 Governor seat.

[MellowDrama]

GOP ran roughshod over the Dems, and they only have themselves to blame. They had no platform and chose to run as moderates in the mold of Clinton. Too bad no one clued them into the fact that Bush has re-taken the center in the wake of 9/11. They need to bury the Clinton paradigm and move to the left again. This is the only way they can be seen as a viable alternative again.

[Chris]

Originally posted by MellowDrama@Nov 5 2002, 11:56 PM
GOP ran roughshod over the Dems, and they only have themselves to blame.  They had no platform and chose to run as moderates in the mold of Clinton.  Too bad no one clued them into the fact that Bush has re-taken the center in the wake of 9/11.  They need to bury the Clinton paradigm and move to the left again.  This is the only way they can be seen as a viable alternative again.
Agreed. The Republican was running on the coat tail of 9/11. The Democrats were very unorganized trying to run on no platform. The only thing that came out of it is the democrats are picking up governorship in key states like Ill. and Penn. which is cruical for the 2004 election as they are traditionally swing vote states. ALso the democrats are picking up the populous state like Wisconsin.

They have 2 years to get their act together and make a new platform. Also if Bush does call for war on Iraq and the result in which they can turn negative. Bush's popularity will fall and the vote will shift back to Demo. which is my analaysis of what going on. Also if we had into further recession that will definately have impact in 04. Right now Bush conversative agenda will push through.

[MellowDrama]

The 2004 race is Bush's to lose, sort of like his father. He only needs to eek out modest economic growth to remain on top. Actually, besides the (flawed) war agenda, I don't think the GOP will rock the boat too much in terms of social agenda. I think they're smart enough to know that they do not have a "social mandate."