I love you but...

[kimpossible]

Do you feel women always try to change you? And do you resent it?

[Grass Monkey]

I always see this as a "if you want to change me, then you never really loved me" kind of thing.

[angel nympho]

If the guy was the type to be constantly sleeping around or whatever, that would be the only thing I'd try to change. But trying to CHANGE a guy is a lot different than just asking him to try to be cleaner, a little more sensitive to what comes out of his mouth, or a little more responsible. I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.* :rolleyes:

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:26 PM
I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.* :rolleyes:
:confused:

what the hell is a guy's essense? i don't think i have any...

[Grass Monkey]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 09:26 PM
I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.* :rolleyes:
Is that like changing oil in the car? :nerd:

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 25 2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:26 PM
I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.*   :rolleyes:
:confused:

what the hell is a guy's essense? i don't think i have any...
It really pisses me off when they try and change my essense. :angry:

[Grass Monkey]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 25 2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 25 2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:26 PM
I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.* :rolleyes:
:confused:

what the hell is a guy's essense? i don't think i have any...
It really pisses me off when they try and change my essense. :angry:
Nupe. I'm sticking with my shampoo. Ain't no one making me use that herbal essences stuff.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 25 2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:26 PM
I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.*   :rolleyes:
:confused:

what the hell is a guy's essense? i don't think i have any...
HAHHA, I mean I wouldn't change his personality. But there are some things that could use a change. And sometimes things just CHANGE, it's not like IIII change them....

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 25 2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:26 PM
I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.* :rolleyes:
:confused:

what the hell is a guy's essense? i don't think i have any...
HAHHA, I mean I wouldn't change his personality. But there are some things that could use a change. And sometimes things just CHANGE, it's not like IIII change them....
i think i'm confused now.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 25 2002, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 25 2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:26 PM
I would never TRY to change the guy's *essence.* :rolleyes:
:confused:

what the hell is a guy's essense? i don't think i have any...
HAHHA, I mean I wouldn't change his personality. But there are some things that could use a change. And sometimes things just CHANGE, it's not like IIII change them....
i think i'm confused now.
:retard:

[futomakiman]

You can change your essense by changing your diet or simply drinking pineapple juice(I've heard). :P

Back to the original topic...yes, women always have seem to have a tendency to want to change a man--which isn't completely bad, when it's in regards to eating habits, how to do laundry, etiquette, etc...but when it goes beyond that--like viewpoints, opinions, what activities to do, it just doesn't make sense--Why are you even with the person?! :huh:

[karizma]

>> ahahahhaha....where can i get me some male essence?

[mrazntre]

I had a girlfriend once that tried to change me. I resent her for being a dumbass bitch.

I'm gonna be me. If she is good enough to make me feel that I need to be a better person for her, that's my own decision and not her's. In this case, I don't mind because I was the one that initiated the change in my life. I can't stand bitches that try to forcibly change you when you get with them. It's completely absurd. The girl shoulda just stayed put in the hell hole that she came out of.

Stupid tricks.

[thaite]

Depends on what they want to change and how they go about doing it. I've had a girl tell me that I dress like crap, and on the other hand I've had one surprise me with a shirt and told me I'd look good in it. Wanna guess which one I let stick around? I also had another one tell me that she didn't like my dog, so I told her flat out that my dog and I had stuck together through thick and thin and my dog would be around a lot longer than she would be. And I was right.

Seriously, I think it depends on what you want to change. You want to teach him to put the toilet seat down? Or do you want to train him to be something that he's not? It's all in how you approach it and what incentive you give him.

[Hanuman]

It's kinda funny how this posting is in Men only and no similar posting in Women (unless it was a while ago). I think in a relationship both couples may always try to change something or another in a significant other.

How many times have you told a girl who's sworn up and down that she's hated camping, yet each time you're like 'believe me, this time it'll be different, we're going to have access to toilets this time, you'll love it this time for sure!'

Or how about the girl whose trying to get you more cultured by going to the ballet and luring you in with the 'you're love it, lot's of hot girls bouncing around in skimpy outfits!'

I think people just want their mates to experiance and enjoy the same things that they like. Nothing wrong with that.

It's only wrong when people try to change the things that make people who they are...

[mrazntre]

Originally posted by Tawee@Oct 27 2002, 07:32 AM
It's kinda funny how this posting is in Men only and no similar posting in Women (unless it was a while ago). I think in a relationship both couples may always try to change something or another in a significant other.

How many times have you told a girl who's sworn up and down that she's hated camping, yet each time you're like 'believe me, this time it'll be different, we're going to have access to toilets this time, you'll love it this time for sure!'

Or how about the girl whose trying to get you more cultured by going to the ballet and luring you in with the 'you're love it, lot's of hot girls bouncing around in skimpy outfits!'

I think people just want their mates to experiance and enjoy the same things that they like. Nothing wrong with that.

It's only wrong when people try to change the things that make people who they are...
Tawee: those examples that you gave were more of coercing someone, rather than changing them. Like you said, you want your significant other to experience things that you enjoy so you drag them along. So you go a few times just for their sake because you want to make them happy. It's when you don't want to ever go again (u tried it for their sake of course) and they continue to try to make you go time and time again and you MUST like it or else.... that's when you know you've got a twisted S.O. and it's time to bail.

[Hanuman]

Yes I agree. I hate the ballet, I never want to go again! I got up to leave when it was over, and you know what? It wasn't done! They had a second intermission, like it was friggin hockey or something! And what's with those guys? They are definately stuffing down there!

At least she caught on and knew never to ask me again!

[mrazntre]

Originally posted by Tawee@Oct 27 2002, 08:24 AM
Yes I agree. I hate the ballet, I never want to go again! I got up to leave when it was over, and you know what? It wasn't done! They had a second intermission, like it was friggin hockey or something! And what's with those guys? They are definately stuffing down there!

At least she caught on and knew never to ask me again!
hehe...

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by futomakiman@Oct 25 2002, 11:42 PM
You can change your essense by changing your diet or simply drinking pineapple juice(I've heard). :P

Back to the original topic...yes, women always have seem to have a tendency to want to change a man--which isn't completely bad, when it's in regards to eating habits, how to do laundry, etiquette, etc...but when it goes beyond that--like viewpoints, opinions, what activities to do, it just doesn't make sense--Why are you even with the person?! :huh:
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Changing little things like, remember to put on deoderant, driving a little safer, shit like that is one thing... but trying to change his personality is fucking retarded.

[futomakiman]

Originally posted by karizma@Oct 26 2002, 03:38 AM
>> ahahahhaha....where can i get me some male essence?
Plenty here! I've been saving up for a rainy day! :D

[mydnyht]

If you don't like the person in the first place, then why be with them?

[gixxer]

this is where unconditional love comes into play...i.e. i love you despite the fact that you blah blah blah... if she' wants to dump you simply because you won't change then kick her to the curb...

[amietron]

Originally posted by gixxer@Nov 3 2002, 01:51 AM
this is where unconditional love comes into play...i.e. i love you despite the fact that you blah blah blah... if she' wants to dump you simply because you won't change then kick her to the curb...
like miiiine for HIM!

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by Tawee@Oct 26 2002, 11:24 PM
Yes I agree. I hate the ballet, I never want to go again! I got up to leave when it was over, and you know what? It wasn't done! They had a second intermission, like it was friggin hockey or something! And what's with those guys? They are definately stuffing down there!

At least she caught on and knew never to ask me again!
Ironic. It's my husband that is always up for buying season tickets to the ballet.

[LeahLe]

I prefer not to select a guy who will require major modifications. Hey, that's just too much work and effort for me, why bother with it.

[mrazntre]

Originally posted by amietron@Nov 3 2002, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by gixxer@Nov 3 2002, 01:51 AM
this is where unconditional love comes into play...i.e. i love you despite the fact that you blah blah blah... if she' wants to dump you simply because you won't change then kick her to the curb...
like miiiine for HIM!
shut up bitch#1, no one wants to listen to that.

[Adaon]

Originally posted by gixxer@Nov 3 2002, 01:51 AM
this is where unconditional love comes into play...i.e. i love you despite the fact that you blah blah blah... if she' wants to dump you simply because you won't change then kick her to the curb...
for reals, it's not like when ya start going out with someone, you're just shopping around for an attractive shell of a person and hoping to program them to be the type of person you want them to be . . . .

[angel nympho]

I like it when the guy changes (for the better) without me even TRYING to change him. Like, he'll do things that he wouldn't think to do before... out of consideration for me.

[Adaon]

Originally posted by futomakiman@Oct 25 2002, 02:42 PM
You can change your essense by changing your diet or simply drinking pineapple juice(I've heard). :P
:huh:
I heard grape juice changes it as well :lol: