Would anyone agree that Business school just isn't worth it?

[onnihs]

Would anyone agree that business school isn't worth it if you don't go to a top tier school? like in the top 5?

i'm wondering because, frankly, through overachieving, i think i can get into a good school, but i don't want to overachieve, i want to smoke pot, and finish my undergrad with just decent grades and a decent business school. if i decide to go at all..

[thaite]

hey, look at Pres. Bush. he went ivy league, partied, did drugs, got average grades and look where he ended up? isn't this country great?

I dunno. depends, I guess. I'm planning on getting my mba, and it ain't gonna be an ivy league school either.

[Atealtha]

Looks like you're considering school only to put the name on your resume.

Are you talking about undergrad or grad school?

[lethal]

Bush also went to Harvard Business School.

It really depends on what you want to do with your MBA. I would say that if you don't go to a top 15 school, its not really worth it unless you're planning to use the degree locally.

After the top 3, the rest of the top 15 are pretty similar. There is some deliniation of maybe top 3, then 4-10, then 11-15. If you go top 3, you're set whereever you go and whatever you want to do. If you go top 10, you're pretty set nationally. If you're in the 11-15 range, you're doing well regionally. Outside of that, I don't know if its worth it, especially if you're looking to go into finance or management consulting.

For a lot of people, getting an MBA isn't for career advancement, but for career preservation. If you don't get an MBA at a certain level, you might get replaced by someone who has one.

[golden_buns]

Would anyone agree that business school isn't worth it if you don't go to a top tier school? like in the top 5?

I wouldn't say top 5, but more like top 10

But if you can't get into them then why bother wasting all that money and time, when you can earn money and get build work expereince by getting into a decent company

[golden_buns]

For a lot of people, getting an MBA isn't for career advancement, but for career preservation. If you don't get an MBA at a certain level, you might get replaced by someone who has one.
True, if you're looking forward to be a salaryman for the rest of your life.

[deez nuts]

i've heard the same thing being said about law school.

in my opinion, in general, getting an advanced education and an advanced degree from a legit school is never a waste of time. even if you don't get anything out of it, it's not a bad thing just to have it on your cv or resume. whitey aka the man loves to see that type of shit on paper.

[DaMuo]

I'd agree with Chasiubao_Boy. An MBA from any legit school is the corporate pass card to higher level jobs on the business and marketing side of the world. It's not required but it definitely gives you a leg up. It's also great for those transitioning jobs. i.e. I was an engineer, and after I got my MBA I wenth straight to product marketing rather than grunt my way through a series of technical marketing jobs. As for the school, your mileage may vary depending on where you are.

Also, MBA is about networking more than anything else...

[lethal]

i've heard the same thing being said about law school.

Its true, but not to the same extent. There are more good law schools than good B-Schools. Also, to be a lawyer, you need to go to law school whereas you do not need to go to B-School to go into business.

There is a similarity, but the distinctions provide for enough exceptions that the comparison is diluted.

Also, MBA is about networking more than anything else...

Exactly. And where do you get the opportunity to meet and network with top people in the business world? Certainly not the mid level and bottom tier business schools.

[yoMAMA]

whitey aka the man loves to see that type of shit on paper.

LOL.

I heard law school is all about name........

[Filiprish]

Hell no, any top 50 should suffice. Also, specializations come into play. I actually look down on the top 10. People who attend them just look good on paper. The bottom 25 is where it's at. :wink:

Seriously, I say if you have million-dollar ideas don't sweat it. Just look at Bill Gates.

[lethal]

Bill Gates went to Harvard (although he dropped out). Its not like he dropped out of any old school. Also his dad is a promenent attorney (Ever hear of the law firm Preston Gates Ellis (http://www.prestongates.com/)? Guess who Gates in that name is). Bill Gates had connections galore. He didn't need to go to a top B-school (or college for that matter) to network.

[Filiprish]

Bill Gates went to Harvard (although he dropped out). Its not like he dropped out of any old school. Also his dad is a promenent attorney (Ever hear of the law firm Preston Gates Ellis (http://www.prestongates.com/)? Guess who Gates in that name is). Bill Gates had connections galore. He didn't need to go to a top B-school (or college for that matter) to network.
He was creative, though. He had ideas. Connections help. Ideas are fundamental to success, unlike connections. Another example, Michael Dell. He grew up middle-class and dropped out of UT. Of course, being in the right place at the right time helps.

[DaMuo]

Exactly. And where do you get the opportunity to meet and network with top people in the business world? Certainly not the mid level and bottom tier business schools.

I think it depends on what you want to do.

If for example you are after a fortune 500 corporate ladder climb gig, then you'd try to get into those nice schools and hob knob with the "elites." However, if, like me, for example, you are interested in sports marketing and management, none of those ivy leagues have as much pull as some less knowns schools like Ohio State, Umass or UO. I went to UO for the Warsaw Sports marketing program and the connection through that network of people is infinitely more useful to what I want to do than maybe going to harvard.

[yoMAMA]

Bill Gates went to Harvard (although he dropped out). Its not like he dropped out of any old school. Also his dad is a promenent attorney (Ever hear of the law firm Preston Gates Ellis (http://www.prestongates.com/)? Guess who Gates in that name is). Bill Gates had connections galore. He didn't need to go to a top B-school (or college for that matter) to network.

LOL, they even have office in beijing [i'm sure they run authentic microsoft softwares there] :biggrin: