Asian male work ethic through American eyes ...

[Craig]

WWII Poster

http://a1240.g.akamaitech.net/7/1240/34/7592760b2e637e/tlc.discovery.com/convergence/pacific/photo/gallery/pacific_prop03_vzoom.jpg



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[SunWuKong]

i'm not japanese, but as an asian man, i'm not sure whether i feel complimented or insulted. :confused:

[bluecollarjap]

those WWII posters are great.

like the next guy, i enjoy kicking back and placing the hand on the old sleep button. but this is the thing. with the working hard bit, i feel my bosses always expects me to be giving 110%. "hey, i expect slack from the other guys but you, whats up"

[angel nympho]

Haha, that's kinda cool. I want one of those to put in my room....

[amietron]

is that guy supposed to look japanese? cus he sure the hell doesn't very much look it to me. =/

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by amietron@Oct 16 2002, 07:38 PM
is that guy supposed to look japanese? cus he sure the hell doesn't very much look it to me. =/
he looks like micky rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. white guy with a "yellow" face.

[Craig]

No commentary on how a long standing impression of a positive work ethic hasn't manifested itself in the employment arena for Asian men, Japanese or otherwise ?

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by bluecollarjap@Oct 16 2002, 04:53 PM
but this is the thing. with the working hard bit, i feel my bosses always expects me to be giving 110%. "hey, i expect slack from the other guys but you, whats up"
I'm surprised more people didn't respond to this thread. This is one aspect of the model minority myth. Asians are hard-working, we're quiet and never cause trouble, we're loyal, and blah, blah, blah.

I find this ad offensive, as if my accomplishments don't stem from my commitment or motivation, but rather because it's a result of my race. I deserve every bit of recognition for my accomplishments, I don't want them to downplayed by the simple notion that it's what's expected of me.

[deez nuts]

No comment.

[Grass Monkey]

Work Ethic? I have no work ethic! Hehe.. I'm just about the laziest mother(shut yer mouth!) 'round these parts.

[lethal]

I'd find the ad offensive too if it was printed in today's environment. At the time, no one cared if it was racist. Heck, who in America cared about the Japanese anyway? There certainly wasn't any significant ACLU protest against EO 1066. America was at war and the governemnt used any tactic, including shaming Americans into thinking they were lazier than the enemy, that could spur people to work harder.

In the context of the time, it made sense. 60 years later, does the stereotype still exist? I've never encountered it in my lifetime, either employment or education. If it does exist, is it beneficial? Possibly. If 2 candidates are equal, what boss wouldn't want to hire a person he or she perceives as harder working? Once on the job the stereotype may hurt you, but once you haev your foot in the door, its hard to push you out.

[UCLABruins98]

The extent to which Americans "feared" asians (especially Japanese males) during WWII is actually ironic and provides an interesting comparison to the present day stereotypes of asian males. Not only did they believe Japanese males were more industrious and harder workers, but they also ran campaigns and propaganda that portrayed Japanese males as these feared "sexual predators". I vividly recall a poster image of a Japanese soldier carrying away a blonde haired american woman in the midst of a battle scene... the poster was meant to stir the average american male youth in to joining the armed forces to protect the honor and chastity of american females from the invading "yellow peril"... whatever... can't protect something they're giving away for free... (sorry, my bad). But it makes me think.... hmmm... in fifty years, will asian males be stereotyped as overly tall, uneducated and violently aggressive members of society??? who knows???

[Craig]

* bump *
I thought this would be a more appropriate topic to be highlighted in Business and Careers rather than the "hi" topic by IMPaki. Also, perhaps some of the newer members have some comments.

[kimiko]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Oct 28 2002, 09:45 PM
I'd find the ad offensive too if it was printed in today's environment. &nbsp;At the time, no one cared if it was racist. &nbsp;Heck, who in America cared about the Japanese anyway? &nbsp;There certainly wasn't any significant ACLU protest against EO 1066. &nbsp;America was at war and the governemnt used any tactic, including shaming Americans into thinking they were lazier than the enemy, that could spur people to work harder.

In the context of the time, it made sense. &nbsp;60 years later, does the stereotype still exist? &nbsp;I've never encountered it in my lifetime, either employment or education. &nbsp;If it does exist, is it beneficial? &nbsp;Possibly. &nbsp;If 2 candidates are equal, what boss wouldn't want to hire a person he or she perceives as harder working? &nbsp;Once on the job the stereotype may hurt you, but once you haev your foot in the door, its hard to push you out.
i think it was EO 9066 :o
please dont hurt me

[kimiko]

Originally posted by Tawee@Oct 26 2002, 10:51 PM
I'm surprised more people didn't respond to this thread. &nbsp;This is one aspect of the model minority myth. &nbsp;Asians are hard-working, we're quiet and never cause trouble, we're loyal, and blah, blah, blah.

I find this ad offensive, as if my accomplishments don't stem from my commitment or motivation, but rather because it's a result of my race. &nbsp;I deserve every bit of recognition for my accomplishments, I don't want them to downplayed by the simple notion that it's what's expected of me.
I agree...this add is offensive whether it was printed during WWII or now and its not just because im japanese :(

I hate it when people attribute my actions solely to my race...like im some kind of representative for all asians or something...

[amietron]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 17 2002, 08:13 AM
he looks like micky rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. white guy with a "yellow" face.
and that's why you were against me and the audrey hepburn dress..

[Chinkaholic]

it is offensive totally. but hey, we do work hard, well most of us anyway, which makes the minority with the most number of ppl earning above $50, 000 annually...

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by kimiko@Nov 29 2002, 10:09 PM


I hate it when people attribute my actions solely to my race...like im some kind of representative for all asians or something...
join the club. i think we're all members :)

[Craig]

*bump*

[ism]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 16 2002, 06:27 PM
Haha, that's kinda cool. &nbsp;I want one of those to put in my room....
Couldn't find the one pictured but there are a bunch of other ones for sale here (http://www.snapshotsofthepast.com/war-posters-anti-japanese.html). Not an endorsement, I have not done any business with this place.

[Green_Circle]

Originally posted by Craig@Oct 17 2002, 07:23 PM
No commentary on how a long standing impression of a positive work ethic hasn't manifested itself in the employment arena for Asian men, Japanese or otherwise ?
Excellent point!



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[blue hoodie]

I'm slacking off at work right now as I type.