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Jung Rhee
03-15-2005, 12:58 AM
Japan curbs 'entertainment visas'
By Jonathan Head
BBC News, Tokyo



Tokyo's bright lights are a magnet for immigrants
Japan has started applying stricter regulations on the tens of thousands of Filipinos who come to Japan on so-called entertainment visas.
The new measure is a response to criticism of Japan's failure to curb human trafficking.

Many Filipinos who arrive on such visas end up working in Japan's sex industry.

However, organisations supporting overseas workers from the Philippines have expressed concern over the loss of earnings caused by the new rules.

The Philippines government is currently negotiating with Japan to allow more of its nationals to work in other fields in Japan.

Between 60,000 and 80,000 Filipinos arrive in Japan every year on entertainment visas.

This is a euphemistic description for a process whereby most are directed by agents in both countries into Japan's extensive sex industry.

The lucky ones end up in upmarket hostess clubs and bars, where they may be well treated and earn good money.

The less fortunate find themselves working as prostitutes, subject to abuse and given no legal protection.

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Now the Japanese government is trying to clean up the country's image after criticism by the US state department last year over its failure to control human trafficking.

It wants to cut the number of entertainment visas issued to Filipinos to just 8,000 a year by imposing much stricter requirements.

From Tuesday, applicants will have to provide a certificate showing they have studied some form of performance art for two years.

However, the new policy is not popular in the Philippines.

Groups who support overseas workers say most of those who go to Japan on entertainment visas are not abused and their families rely on the earnings sent back.

They complain that it contradicts the Japanese government's promise to consider opening up to more foreign labour.

The Philippines government is currently pushing to get more access for Filipino health and care workers.

But the negotiations have dragged on for months and so far, Japan is only talking about allowing just 200 highly-trained applicants into the country.

rotrab
03-15-2005, 05:35 AM
Another example of Bush and his administration fucking around where they don't belong and just making things worse.

YuheiCarreau
03-15-2005, 05:50 AM
Another example of Bush and his administration fucking around where they don't belong and just making things worse.

Making things worse? Making things worse for who - the women who can't go to Japan to become prostitutes, or the men who will no longer have easy access to them? I can't imagine how you could see this as an example of things getting worse.

rotrab
03-15-2005, 09:03 AM
>>Groups who support overseas workers say most of those who go to Japan on entertainment visas are not abused and their families rely on the earnings sent back.<<

It's like illegal Mexicans. Exploited? Maybe. But they need that money and their families depend on it. To take that away from them is cruel. I've met some Japa-yuki ladies when I was in Japan and none looked, acted or claimed that were being abused. It's more Western bullshit: "We know what's good for you." Fuck you. Why doesn't Bush shut down the strip bars in America then? All exploited women, right? Ohhh, they want to be strippers and nobody's forcing them and it's perfectly legal so there is no basis for shutting down strip bars. Then who the hell are we to force this morality on other countries that we don't even practice ourselves and would GREATLY resent if another nation tried to force it on us?

Leave Asia to Asians and quit thinking like a fucking white man with his head up his self-righteous colonialist ass.

Jung Rhee
03-15-2005, 09:37 AM
I like mexican people they are hard workers.

deez nuts
03-15-2005, 09:39 AM
I like mexican people they are hard workers.

lol that made me cough up a part of my hoagie i had for lunch.

YuheiCarreau
03-15-2005, 09:51 AM
>>Groups who support overseas workers say most of those who go to Japan on entertainment visas are not abused and their families rely on the earnings sent back.<<

It's like illegal Mexicans. Exploited? Maybe. But they need that money and their families depend on it. To take that away from them is cruel. I've met some Japa-yuki ladies when I was in Japan and none looked, acted or claimed that were being abused. It's more Western bullshit: "We know what's good for you." Fuck you. Why doesn't Bush shut down the strip bars in America then? All exploited women, right? Ohhh, they want to be strippers and nobody's forcing them and it's perfectly legal so there is no basis for shutting down strip bars. Then who the hell are we to force this morality on other countries that we don't even practice ourselves and would GREATLY resent if another nation tried to force it on us?

Leave Asia to Asians and quit thinking like a fucking white man with his head up his self-righteous colonialist ass.

Well first of all, that's a pretty damn weak argument. I still can't see how those women are better off as prostitutes in a country that isn't kind to the foreigners with legit jobs than they are finding work elsewhere. And let's be clear, these women aren't just stripping, they're being pimped out - something which is illegal in the US as well.

"Leave Asia to Asians"? That's the same argument Japan used to justify its military expansion in the 1930s and 40s.

Jung Rhee
03-15-2005, 10:07 AM
lol that made me cough up a part of my hoagie i had for lunch.

Was that a Chasiu hoagie? :smile:

"Leave Asia to Asians"? That's the same argument Japan used to justify its military expansion in the 1930s and 40s.


Sound like you support the Iraq war also huh?

imturok
03-15-2005, 10:53 AM
Leave Asia to Asians and quit thinking like a fucking white man with his head up his self-righteous colonialist ass.

Right on rotrab!

I wish there are some statistics to show a large number of prostitudes look at their job as a profession. Personally I have never met one who says they hate what they are doing.

Every man and woman under the sun have a price. Prostitutes have a fair market price, the rest of us do not. That is the only difference.

kimpossible
03-15-2005, 10:56 AM
I wish there are some statistics to show a large number of prostitudes look at their job as a profession. Personally I have never met one who says they hate what they are doing.


Well, well. :wink:

you randy minx, you.

YuheiCarreau
03-15-2005, 11:08 AM
Sound like you support the Iraq war also huh?

Maybe you should wait for me to state my opinions before assuming you know what they are.

Jung Rhee
03-15-2005, 11:42 AM
Maybe you should wait for me to state my opinions before assuming you know what they are.

Yes I am waiting. Please elaborate your points. :smile:

Right on rotrab!

I wish there are some statistics to show a large number of prostitudes look at their job as a profession. Personally I have never met one who says they hate what they are doing.

Every man and woman under the sun have a price. Prostitutes have a fair market price, the rest of us do not. That is the only difference.

One is professional, the other is amateur. If you do it for fun, you are just a whore not prostitute. :wink:


"Leave Asia to Asians"? That's the same argument Japan used to justify its military expansion in the 1930s and 40s.


When you said that, you did mean you disagree with that "Leave Asia to Asians" statement, right? :confused:

SunWuKong
03-15-2005, 12:02 PM
alrighty then.
let's give it a rest.

closing.