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Faithless
03-11-2005, 10:23 AM
http://www.thestar.com/images/thestar/img/050227_akenz_nguyen_250.jpg

Rapping against Jane-Finch's bum rap (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1109373907103&call_pageid=970599119419)

Feb. 27, 2005. 01:00 AM * JORDAN HEATH-RAWLINGS * STAFF REPORTER

Paul Nguyen decided it was time to do something about his neighbourhood's image when his new girlfriend refused to meet him near his home.

"You hear them say, `I don't want to come to Jane and Finch to meet you. It's so dangerous,'" the 24-year-old sighs. "It gets a bum rap, honestly. I hate explaining to people that it's not that dangerous."

If that's the case, he's got an odd way of dealing with it.

What Nguyen — a graduate of York University's film program and a 15-year resident of the Jane-Finch neighbourhood — did is both contradictory and controversial: He made a hip-hop video that glorifies racial street violence in the area.

Ten months later, the video for "You Got Beef," by local Vietnamese-Canadian rapper Chuckie Akenz, is a bona fide Internet hit, and Nguyen's website, jane-finch.com, is reaping the rewards, soaring from 30 hits a day to 3,000.

But Akenz and Co. could be inviting trouble with a video that depicts a racial dispute between the Vietnamese and two heavily outnumbered African-Americans. The scenes, filmed last March, are eerily similar to a dispute over a basketball and cellphone calls to organize retribution that Filipino youths in Scarborough described as leading to the police bullet that killed 17-year-old Jeffrey Reodica in May.

While some of the reaction on the more than 100 online message boards featuring discussions of Chuckie's raps has been positive — "That was a beautiful show of Unity!" wrote one Vietnamese-American of the swarming of two black men by Chuckie's Vietnamese crew in the video — the fine line Akenz and Nguyen are walking between street credibility and real life drama worries many.

"I don't see how this video could help the community at all, all this violence over a basketball?" asks ChineseMan, posting on a forum in Germany. "So what's next — if some guy steps on your shoes you shoot him in the head?"

Akenz can't resist posting occasionally about his motives.

"In regards to the people who (are) calling me a racist," he wrote recently, "I am anything but that. A lot of my homies are black fellas. All that racist s--- was jokes.

"I live at Jane and Finch, which is a black community ... If I was really racist, I would have a bullet in my head."

Nguyen, meanwhile, laughs at hints of racial undertones. His video short won the MuchMusic Stop Racism competition in 1999, and he now wants to get Akenz performing at local schools to put out an anti-racist, stay-in-school message.

But if it takes gangstas, guns and violence to draw attention to their neighbourhood and the cultures that live there, that's fine with Nguyen and Akenz.

"I was always interested in the history of (this neighbourhood), and one day I decided to Google Jane and Finch and I realized there's nothing there except for the crime you get in the news," says Nguyen. "I wanted to make it into a resource for Jane and Finch people to learn about their area."

When visitors start to surf the site, Nguyen figures, they'll stumble on the history of the neighbourhood, drawings, and more than a dozen music videos from others in the community.

Those videos, while mostly in the hip-hop and R&B genre, run the gamut from sensitive odes about growing up poor in housing projects to vitriolic rhymes about racial violence and confrontations with police.

But it's "You Got Beef" that provides an unsettling glimpse into the most pervasive culture in one of Toronto's most notorious neighbourhoods.

"In every different school/Or place for jitz and pool/Don't f--- with the Gooks/That's the number one rule," Akenz rhymes in the song. (Jitz is foosball.) He wrote it at 16, he says, after watching Vietnamese youths being picked on because of what he says was a perceived lack of toughness and solidarity.

The rapper has lived in the Jane and Finch area for all 18 years of his life. He has grown from a boy who struggled with a broken home and friends who were into gang activity, into a performer with 8,000 CD sales.

"The song is all about Vietnamese pride," says Akenz. "We used to get picked on all the time, Vietnamese youths as a whole, because we never really had a culture that we could get with."

Nguyen echoes that comment, saying that, in an area where hip-hop is the predominant culture, anyone who isn't a part of that ends up marginalized, regardless of his or her race.

Meanwhile, Nguyen is quickly making plans to capitalize on the video's popularity. He's busy trying to line up financing to shoot a feature film, You Got Beef: The Movie, with Akenz and his group, V-Unit.

He's also writing and interviewing as fast as he can to get more content onto the website, as well as shooting a documentary about a Vietnamese seniors group that he hopes to sell to the Life network.

He and Akenz also plan to start making "You Got Beef: Part 2," as soon as the snow melts. They tried to film it last fall but gave up after having their shoots stopped twice by the police, who, on the second visit, confiscated the replica weapons they were using as props.

"You don't even want to talk to me about the police, man," Akenz laughs.

"The cops always assume the worst. They see a gang of guys, they don't even want us to explain what's going on."

YuheiCarreau
03-11-2005, 07:42 PM
http://jane-finch.com/videos.htm

Vit-na-meez nigger yo!

Ridiculous. I was laughing my ass off through the whole video. This is worse than the rap video someone posted a while back with the two Asian dudes and a gang of White girls hanging around some classic cars...

Faithless
03-11-2005, 10:58 PM
I think it was more sad than funny.

I can't recall any videos that ever did the opposite -- show some Asians getting beatdown in a similar fashion. But I'm sure if there was such a video, there would be an outcry about dumb the video would be.

The only thing wrong with that sort of "Asian pride" is then having to own-up to it.

yuuteya
03-12-2005, 12:38 AM
jane and finch. yah thats an combination of projects and flat industrial wasteland. pretty bleak area. odd place to put a university, but a good one at that. but its quite multicultural and very multimixed though. along with the rest of metro and the gta. great city.

Banana
03-12-2005, 07:02 AM
"In regards to the people who (are) calling me a racist," he wrote recently, "I am anything but that. A lot of my homies are black fellas.

Weee! Weee!

Faithless
03-12-2005, 08:38 AM
"In regards to the people who (are) calling me a racist," he wrote recently, "I am anything but that. A lot of my homies are black fellas.
Weee! Weee!
Do you think the black fellas will remain friends after such a depiction? :rolleyes:

TB4000
03-12-2005, 08:44 AM
He's really down with the homies, ain't he?

tommyhtown
03-12-2005, 08:51 AM
I kinda enjoy watching the video. The lil' boy is the star. I hope he becomes the next lil' Pow Wow or rather lil' Nguyen or something. :)

My gripe was them driving stock imports. I don't know any of my vietnamese gangsta wannabe friends that drive stocks.

Faithless
03-12-2005, 09:07 AM
He's really down with the homies, ain't he?
Really.

If that video could have been "done right", maybe it should have showed a community of all races stepping up to "take back the streets".

Funny, but I can remember this white kid, many years ago, tell me a similar experience he had like this.

He says he was playing basketball after school at a public school, when he did something that provoked a group of Vietnamese kids to kick his ass.

First thing I could think of was, "what did he say to them?" I mean, I've played ball with them, and I didn't have any problems. So, it must have been his problem. :rolleyes:

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I kinda enjoy watching the video. The lil' boy is the star. I hope he becomes the next lil' Pow Wow or rather lil' Nguyen or something. :)

My gripe was them driving stock imports. I don't know any of my vietnamese gangsta wannabe friends that drive stocks.
Ha! Maybe that makes it more realistic, when you come "rolling up" in a faded, metallic painted jallopy, with a dent on the side. :rolleyes:

deez nuts
03-14-2005, 08:03 AM
http://www.thestar.com/images/thestar/img/050227_akenz_nguyen_250.jpg

Rapping against Jane-Finch's bum rap (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1109373907103&call_pageid=970599119419)

i have no idea what the thread is about. but, they look fucking ridiculous in that pic. asians should never under any circumstances be rapping.

DragonKnight
03-14-2005, 09:20 AM
Geez, I remember seeing this video before. Pathetic piece of shit.

Irezumi Kiss
03-14-2005, 06:47 PM
asians should never under any circumstances be rapping.
The Mountain Brothers were pretty dope, when they were together...

deez nuts
03-14-2005, 06:50 PM
The Mountain Brothers were pretty dope, when they were together...

if you say so, i thought they were cheesy as hell.

SunWuKong
03-14-2005, 07:16 PM
i have no idea what the thread is about. but, they look fucking ridiculous in that pic. asians should never under any circumstances be rapping.

what? what about MC Hotdog? that guy is cool. he wrote a song to diss popstars like A-Mei, Yuki, and Coco Lee. he told them to suck his dick. hahhah

http://music.kingnet.com.tw/act/mchotdog

deez nuts
03-14-2005, 07:17 PM
what? what about MC Hotdog? that guy is cool. he wrote a song to diss popstars like A-Mei, Yuki, and Coco Lee. he told them to suck his dick. hahhah

http://music.kingnet.com.tw/act/mchotdog

mc hotdog? the guy with the upside down wutang symbol? uhhhh yeah.

Irezumi Kiss
03-14-2005, 07:32 PM
if you say so, i thought they were cheesy as hell.
Ha! To be honest, I only heard two tracks by them, one of which was on this compliation cd by Asian Avenue handed out during one of those summertime Asian Pride Day Festivals in Union Square. Think I still got it somewhere in a pile. I thought what I heard was cool, but I have no idea how their whole CD comes through, though. Don't like getting shit online, so if it ain't in the store, I ain't getting it. You can get burned fast like that. Only Chops managed to eke out a solo joint from that group...last year I believe...nd I don't think it hit well even though it got decent reviews.

deez nuts
03-14-2005, 07:40 PM
Ha! To be honest, I only heard two tracks by them, one of which was on this compliation cd by Asian Avenue handed out during one of those summertime Asian Pride Day Festivals in Union Square. Think I still got it somewhere in a pile. I thought what I heard was cool, but I have no idea how their whole CD comes through, though. Don't like getting shit online, so if it ain't in the store, I ain't getting it. You can get burned fast like that. Only Chops managed to eke out a solo joint from that group...last year I believe...nd I don't think it hit well even though it got decent reviews.


there's a reason why galaxies is like their only popular song.

for rap music, i'll stick to you black people and eminem and those nice jewish boys, the beastie boys.

asian and asian american rappers just don't cut it for me. i doubt they'll ever cut it for me cuz i've been scarred and can't overcome my bias. maybe it'll be better for bunboy, jr.

YuheiCarreau
03-14-2005, 08:06 PM
there's a reason why galaxies is like their only popular song.

for rap music, i'll stick to you black people and eminem and those nice jewish boys, the beastie boys.

asian and asian american rappers just don't cut it for me. i doubt they'll ever cut it for me cuz i've been scarred and can't overcome my bias. maybe it'll be better for bunboy, jr.

Lyrics Born (http://lyricsborn.com/) (formerly Asia Born) is Japanese American, and IMO he's really good. A very badly mangled version of his song "Callin' Out" was used in that bizarre Coke commercial with Adrian Brody.