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yoMAMA
02-23-2005, 09:55 AM
I say yes.

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February 23, 2005
Harvard President Vows to Temper His Style With Respect
By SARA RIMER and PATRICK D. HEALY

CAMBRIDGE, Mass., Feb. 22 - With his faculty threatening open revolt, the president of Harvard, Lawrence H. Summers, promised Tuesday that he would temper his management style and begin treating people more respectfully.

Professors, gathered at an overflow meeting of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences to hear and discuss Dr. Summers, appeared so dissatisfied with the state of his leadership that they rejected a proposal to have three senior Harvard scholars mediate the furor between the faculty and its president.

After five weeks of mea culpas for his remarks about women in the sciences, Dr. Summers issued yet another apology. He promised professors that they would no longer experience the intimidation, anger and hurt feelings that many of them have reported in his three-and-a-half-year tenure.

"I am committed to opening a new chapter in my work with you," he told some 500 faculty and staff members, according to a copy of his remarks. "To start, I pledge to you that I will seek to listen more and more carefully and to temper my words and actions in ways that convey respect and help us work together more harmoniously."

"No doubt I will not always get things right. But I am determined to set a different tone."

He also promised to pay greater respect to the powers of the faculty on matters like undergraduate education, which he has sought to re-shape.

But the deep concern among professors at the Faculty of Arts and Sciences over his management appeared likely to continue, at least in private. Some critics said after the meeting that Dr. Summers was so damaged that his chance of being a great Harvard president was over. Others praised him as trying to reach out.

Although professors did not hold a vote of no confidence at Tuesday's meeting, as some had threatened, a university dean promised to hold a series of private, informal meetings between Dr. Summers and professors in the coming weeks. However, several professors expressed skepticism about whether that intervention would do any good. The next full faculty meeting, where the confrontations with Dr. Summers have taken place this month, is scheduled for March 15.

"He is the president; we need to work with that," said Cynthia Friend, chairwoman of chemistry and chemical biology.

"We need to find a new way of working together," she added.

Tuesday's faculty meeting was convened explicitly for professors to stand in judgment of Dr. Summers, for and against, and was the latest stormy episode in the serial drama of the Summers presidency. The depth and intensity of faculty anger was shown in a Harvard Crimson poll published Tuesday in which 52 percent of professors disapproved of Dr. Summers's leadership and 40 percent approved. In an effort to heal the breach between Dr. Summers and the faculty, a former dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences proposed a three-member mediation team that would act as a line of communication from the faculty to the president and to Harvard's two governing boards.

Two professors rejected the idea as undemocratic and seemingly prearranged. The former dean, Jeremy Knowles, withdrew the proposal.

"I think an important opportunity was lost for the faculty of arts and sciences to gain some leverage to change its relationship with the president," said Theda Skocpol, a government professor who was to have been on the mediation team.

Most of the faculty speeches at Tuesday's meeting ranged from mildly critical to highly critical of Dr. Summers, but some supporters spoke in his favor.

Caroline Hoxby, an economics professor, opened her remarks by saying that the discussion was not about "right versus left" or political correctness, but about management. Some commentators have put a political spin on the debate over remarks by Dr. Summers that women may lag in science and engineering because of "intrinsic aptitude."

"Every time, Mr. President, you show a lack of respect for a faculty member's intellectual expertise, you break ties in our web," Professor Hoxby said to Dr. Summers, according to a copy of her remarks. "Every time you humiliate or silence a faculty member, you break ties in our web."

Leaving the meeting, James Kloppenberg, a history professor, said he felt reassured. Professor Kloppenberg said of Dr. Summers, "He realizes he can't govern the university without the support of the faculty."



Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company

Filiprish
02-23-2005, 10:52 AM
No. I think he was just trying to stir up debate.

hooligan
02-23-2005, 12:16 PM
Not only should he be fired, but he should take more sensitivity training or take a couple of women study classes. Or if that doesn't work, BURRRRRRRNN.

nola
02-23-2005, 12:18 PM
He made the remarks in a private meeting.

He's made un-PC remarks before about blacks, Muslims and Koreans too as part of his debating style.

He should resign. It would be extremely disheartening to be a woman there and have him as president.

Seamus
02-23-2005, 03:20 PM
So he made a foolish, un-PC remark, and this is not the first time he's put his foot in his mouth. But take a look at his track record before you pass judgment. I don't have time to get into details with you guys, but in spite of his remarks, Larry Summers has a long history of being committed to social justice and equality. Among other things, he has started many cooperative education programs between Harvard and underserved minority communities. His research as a development economist, in particular on sub-Saharan Africa, is well-regarded by even some of the most left-leaning academics. He also once stated that educating females is the highest return investment that we could make in developing countries. If people demur, they should produce arguments that refute what he said, rather than blindly calling for his resignation.

To those of you who don't know, his basic ideas (which he posited as _ideas_ and not as fact) were:
(1) Females tend to make certain life choices that TEND to prevent them from excelling in math and science
(2) While having similar means, the distribution of female and male ability in the maths and sciences have different variances, with males having higher variance. This means that there are a lot more really dumb males than really dumb females, while females tend to be more concentrated around the middle of the distribution.

Both (1) and (2) certainly seem to be true, according to my own observation as well as certain studies I have seen. And both Summers and I concede that (1) is at least partly the result of certain societal conditions, such as the expectation that women do most of the child-rearing, and the lower tolerance that men have for women who work 80 hours per week than the reverse. I certainly hope (1) isn't an immutable condition, and that we can change things, but it's certainly where things stand right now. I think it's just as intolerant (and academically illiberal) to disregard all empirical evidence and shout down a man just because he posited some unpopular ideas in a rather undiplomatic way. I really don't know the extent to which (2) is true (it seems true, from casual observation), nor is anybody 100% certain about the extent to which it is the result of evolution or biology v. upbringing, but it's an interesting notion that should be discussed in a reasoned way. It is NOT saying that men are better than women, or that an equally talented woman shouldn't have the same opportunities.

To those of you who think he should undergo "sensitivity training":

Don't you think this idea is rather patronizing toward women? Do you really want people to have to undergo "sensitivity training" so that they can be more sensitive to you whenever you feel offended? Rather than making ad hominem attacks, don't you think that it's far more empowering for women to debate in a reasoned way about the actual argument, and bring up convincing arguments to refute it? Summers stated that he was open to being refuted. But rather than stepping up to the challenge, his most strident critics have dropped the ball.

Seamus
03-02-2005, 01:17 AM
More fuel for debate:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2005/03/02/gender_differences/index.html