So this old white man calls me a NIGGER..........

[Hiroshi2]

I was debating whether or not I should post this here or not, but I'll go ahead anyway...............




I was at University Hospital last night, visiting my cousin in the hospital who has come down with pneumonia. We were all there with my family, etc. So anyway, she's on the ninth floor, room 913. I went to go take a piss before we surprised her in the hospital, so I didn't go into my cousin's room (913) with my family, I had to find the room for myself. So I went to go piss, but I am the type of person who gets numbers mixed up frequently............................I was told 913, but instead went to 931, cause like I said, I mix numbers up a lot. So I go into room 931, the door is open................and there are four beds, four patients. Three of them are either asleep or comatose (well, probably just sleep, but it's a hospital, you never know). Anyway, the only patient up is this old white man, real frail looking dude................he starts mean-mugging me soon as I walk in...................it wasn't until I walked all the way in the room that I realized I had the wrong room. So this old white man, who was sitting up with a tray of food in his lap says......"hey..................nigger. You. Nigger.............tell that nurse to come here and bring me some water. I thought I was hallucinating or some shit. I said, excuse me? He said, "you heard me, boy. Go tell that pretty young nurse to come here and fill my glass up with water, you black bastard. I walked over to him and got in his face and told him, look here motherfucker, you call me that one more motherfucking time and I will pull the plug on your motherfucking ass, you hear me. He wasn't phased. Apparently I was cussing so loud a nurse heard me. She asked what was going on, and I told her what happened and then said, y'all need to push this racist ass motherfucker down a flight of steps or some shit, old ugly ass bastard." And she said, sir, calm down, I'm sure he didn't mean it, he's a little demented, many of our patients are. She said that last part in a quiet voice of course. I said, "hell yeah he's demented. I'ma put a dement in his head." And then I left before the nurse (who was black, btw) could say anything.



Turns out my incident wasn't so far-fetched; I told my family about it, my cousin was like, don't even bother telling the staff, it happens all the time..................I told my friends about it, they said that this happened to them and their parents as well, whenever they're in hospitals.................a lot of old white people laying up in their death beds, don't give a fuck about being politically correct and do this to the black workers at the hospital, who of course had to treat them with respect as part of their job...............

[Trowa Sky]

dayum that sucks, but i doubt you'll get any responses to it here. I'm sure that probably happens to asians too, the old whites probably start using throw-back WWII slurs.

[kimpossible]

Since the old bastard's on his way to a dirt nap there's not much you or the staff can do to him. BUT...

I'm so sorry you had to be on the receiving end of that bullshit. I'm not so sure about the dementia excuse, sounds like she was making it up to disarm the situation. Probably more he knew he was in a position to take advantage of you - violate you verbally without facing any recourse.

About posting this here - you're fine. Christ knows you need to vent about this. I'm sorry Hiroshi, I wish I had something more useful to say to you.

[TB4000]

Man.....you already know what I'm going to say, but it's quite volatile. I know the man was on his deathbed and all, and some senior citizens are still living as they did in the past, but I would be just as angered. But just keep in mind you're still a fresh faced teen, and he's pretty much done and over with.

[Hiroshi2]

Thing is, I wonder how sick the man was. He was sitting up after all, and had a tray of half-eaten food on his plate.


Hate to say it, but I kinda hope that *was* his deathbed.


And yeah you're right Trowa, for the asian workers there, i'm sure they hear chink, jap, etc. all the time.

[Craig]

You should have taken a piss in his glass instead of yelling at him. I'm sure all black people look the same to him anyway, so how could he ID you.

[Hiroshi2]

Better yet, I should've peed in his mouth.



Suck on my big black dick, ol' wrinkly ass muh'fucka.

[chas2u]

my advice is dont get too worked up about verbal slurs....They arent as important as what people do. There are more ways that people can get away with in putting you down.....

[nola]

Yeah fight systemic, institutionized racism. Don't fight the individual attacks and waste your energy.

[yoMAMA]

dirty old ignorant bastard.

he'll probably die soon and no one will come to pick him up........

[Faithless]

Anonymously send the old fuck a nice bunch of flowers -- red poppies to be exact.

If he's old enough to remember WWI or WWII, he might get the reference. :confused:

[Emperor_Mike]

All that is flesh will turn to dust.

[Faithless]

All that is flesh will turn to dust.
And may that "old fart" just "blow in the wind". (Down wind.)

[kasia]

i also find the fact that he called you "boy" to be very offensive.

sorry you had to deal with that. you handled it very maturely by not knocking the tray off his table.

[tvbdude]

I would've punched him. in fact like 3 weeks ago, I punched this white girl for calling me a chink.

[hooligan]

It's cool Hiroshi, this place is a safe place to discuss issues like this. I hope you're doing ok and you're not feeling too bad because it isn't your fault. I'm not really into promoting violence as one of the first reactions to blatant racism, but I'm not sure what I would have done in your position. I'm usually caught off guard by blatant shows of racism. You handled yourself well. All I gotta say is that it's another experience that's going to probably shape the way you look at the world. With that in mind, don't be bitter and don't let it get to you, I hope it works out.

[pikachupacabra]

Hey Hirosh, I used to work in a hospice, and ALL those mutherfuckers were on their deathbeds. Most of them had dementia, and a lot of them called me jap, chink, and chinaman on a regular basis. It's just the nature of old, decrepit people who are on their deathbeds and have none of their minds left. We can only hope that the future will breed out crap like this, since they elderly tend to regress to earlier memories when they have dementia, and since earlier for them usually means a less tolerant society...well...shit.

[chas2u]

I would've punched him. in fact like 3 weeks ago, I punched this white girl for calling me a chink.

i am assuming you are a girl???i think if a male punch a "white" girl he would be behind bar quicker than u can say chink....

[Chu Chi]

Sorry Hiroshi2, but you played right into his game. In his weakened decaying state, getting a reaction out of you by calling you a nigger was one of the last things he was able to do to prove he still had SOME power.

When a White person calls you any of their racial labels, they are reminding you they are a White person in a system of racism White supremacy. This is what makes us mad.

And they know it.

By getting upset, you acknowledge that they are still a White person in a system of racism White supremacy.

The best way to handle these situations is to raise doubt in the White persons mind as to:

A. Whether they are still a White person?

B. Whether they are still in a system of racism White supremacy?

You do this by asking them two questions:


1. What is a nigger?

2. What should be done with a nigger?

By doing this you force the White person to face "the moment of truth", you force the White person to move from SAYING to DOING.

The utility of this technique is it takes the racial event to its logical conclusion at high speed.

The "ball" is now in their court. All eyes are on them.

Watch them as they return to their flaccid state.

CC

[MovingForward]

The "ball" is now in their court. All eyes are on them.

Watch them as they return to their flaccid state.

CC

Yes - and this strategy would work with someone that has at least that consciousness that eyes on them have an affect. Were I that particular white man, I would reduce to a flaccid state.

Protecting Hiroshi's future: Hiroshi has protected his future in this instance, a future quite probably not in the state of Alabama where there exist enough individuals who, when it comes to challenges to their racism, do not house a self consciousness that might promote a flaccid state when confronted in such a fashion. I regret to say that the movies are not always lying about the threads of racial violence - old/young/sick/healthy white people in or out of hospitals are quite capable of communicating within their circles about interactions such as the one described - Hiroshi, thank you for biding your time and keeping your wits about you at 17 - the future is closer than you think and it is well out of range of that hospital.

[applehead]

oh man hiroshi. sorry that you had to hear that
offensive bullshit. it sucks.
but you handled it way better than i would have.
kudos to you.

[kitty]

hiroshi,don't feel bad about the way you reacted, i think it was perfectly legitimate. i'm sorry it happened to you, but as pika said,it probably had something to do with growing up in an earlier time...

[sOKaLiBoY]

damn that sucks hiroshi. i would have flipped out the same if i was in your shoes.

[asvenus]

wtf...i hate that crap...and this behaviour is always excused by through age or some shit
kasia is right aswell, calling you 'boy'..oooh that makes my blood boil..you handled it well but you know if you took his tray and knocked the shit outta him for it, i wouldnt have blamed you. AT ALL...

[foreverfornever]

If I were 17, I think I would have done the same thing.
But now that I have aged and mellowed a little bit, I actually think I would get him the water myself and if needed, I would even help him to drink it too. Then I would just smile and say "get well soon" and leave. It might sound too good to be true or too dumb to be true but I just don't think it should let it get to me.
The old man would either think
1) these chinks are just the same old chinks that I used to deal with, they are just scared of us, keep their heads down....blah, blah,blah or
2) how could that guy still serve me water when I disrespected him so much?
I am not saying my action could help him to suddenly change from one person to another but knowing that I have handled the situation the best way that I could have, I can just walk away, visit my friend, go home and root my white girl as hard as I can. Nah, I am only kidding. Just go home and move on.... there will always be people who behave like that, I just need to have a bigger heart to handle them, that's all.

[BigLew]

Since they are on thier death bed whisper in thier ear both god and the devil are black and they are gonna have a field day with you.

[Hiroshi2]

Thanks guys.




If I were 17, I think I would have done the same thing.
But now that I have aged and mellowed a little bit, I actually think I would get him the water myself and if needed, I would even help him to drink it too. Then I would just smile and say "get well soon" and leave. It might sound too good to be true or too dumb to be true but I just don't think it should let it get to me.
The old man would either think
1) these chinks are just the same old chinks that I used to deal with, they are just scared of us, keep their heads down....blah, blah,blah or
2) how could that guy still serve me water when I disrespected him so much?
I am not saying my action could help him to suddenly change from one person to another but knowing that I have handled the situation the best way that I could have, I can just walk away, visit my friend, go home and root my white girl as hard as I can. Nah, I am only kidding. Just go home and move on.... there will always be people who behave like that, I just need to have a bigger heart to handle them, that's all.




Yeah, but old folks are set in their ways, they never change. That would've done no good.


wtf...i hate that crap...and this behaviour is always excused by through age or some shit
kasia is right aswell, calling you 'boy'..oooh that makes my blood boil..you handled it well but you know if you took his tray and knocked the shit outta him for it, i wouldnt have blamed you. AT ALL...



Yeah for some reason when I think back to the incident, "boy" stings almost as much as "nigger", even though technically I'm not an adult....................still. It was something about the tone of voice, it's kinda hard to explain.


I wanted to whup his old ass SO BAD................................I regret it now. I know really that's the right thing to do, but I'm tired of constantly restraining my anger.....................if there ever was a good time to snap on somebody, that seemed like it would've been it. AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGH.


His ol cracker ass better be glad I was actually having a GOOD day till that shit happened. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he was one of the motherfuckers that was blowing up black folks' houses here back in the day.


And you know old white folks here always tell us that they never were racist..................................never used the n-word, back in the day..................whatever.


And it's kinda funny cause today in math class we had a substitute teacher, this real old ass white woman, real old, like 80 years old maybe. And it's an all-black class. And the kids in my class were trying to get on the sub's nerves and one girl yelled out, "Miss So-and-so said NIGGER!" And of course the class got a big laugh out of that (she never said that word, of course). She spent 10-15 minutes explaing to us how she never used that word, supported blacks during the civil rights movement, etc. But it made me wonder..................how do WE know that? You just know you'd get your ass whupped up here if you said otherwise. That whole old generation of white folks.......................it's hard to think back to what it was like back then down here, and then hear them say we never did this and never did that. I don't know...................

[Chu Chi]

Anybody here old enough to remember the Sly Stone song?

"Don't call me nigger..."

CC

[MovingForward]

[QUOTE=Hiroshi2]Thanks guys.
And you know old white folks here always tell us that they never were racist..................................never used the n-word, back in the day..................whatever.QUOTE]

Hiroshi2, my mother spent most of her growing up days in Alabama (Birmingham) circa 1935-1945. She has spent the last 50 years of her life north of the Mason Dixon line (from Minnesota to East Coast) - has not gone back.

She would be the first to tell you - the n-word dies a very, very slow death in Alabama - if an old white folk is telling you otherwise, you can safely judge that either she/he is "trying to quit" (like smoking - maybe 40% of the population there), flat out lying (probably 45%), or genuinely has quit and/or has invested energies like what your sub. teacher is claiming (5%).

Let the old folks heal themselves (hospitalized or not) - you heal yourself and don't get derailed from California or wherever your destination might be.

Best wishes.

[My Name Is...]

Supposedly demented and yet he still remembers to call you a 'nigger' and a 'black bastard'..... The power of words. Goes to show you that all that hate was ingrained.

It sucks that had to happen to you.

[Chu Chi]

[QUOTE=Hiroshi2]Thanks guys.
And you know old white folks here always tell us that they never were racist..................................never used the n-word, back in the day..................whatever.QUOTE]

Hiroshi2, my mother spent most of her growing up days in Alabama (Birmingham) circa 1935-1945. She has spent the last 50 years of her life north of the Mason Dixon line (from Minnesota to East Coast) - has not gone back.

She would be the first to tell you - the n-word dies a very, very slow death in Alabama - if an old white folk is telling you otherwise, you can safely judge that either she/he is "trying to quit" (like smoking - maybe 40% of the population there), flat out lying (probably 45%), or genuinely has quit and/or has invested energies like what your sub. teacher is claiming (5%).

Let the old folks heal themselves (hospitalized or not) - you heal yourself and don't get derailed from California or wherever your destination might be.

Best wishes.


Thank you Moving Forward, for that information about White people and the word "nigger". If you have any other information about racism, please feel free to share it with me.

Thank you.

CC

[Hiroshi2]

Supposedly demented and yet he still remembers to call you a 'nigger' and a 'black bastard'..... The power of words. Goes to show you that all that hate was ingrained.

It sucks that had to happen to you.




Yeah I know, here I am with nothing to do on a Friday night, and I'm still trippin about this.



And then he had the nerve to do it on black history month. I should've beat that ass.

[Chu Chi]

I should've beat that ass.


When you "beat" people who are weaker than you, you do not gain strength.

In order to gain strength, you must take on those who are STRONGER than you.

CC

[Napoleon Chynamite]

When you "beat" people who are weaker than you, you do not gain strength.

In order to gain strength, you must take on those who are STRONGER than you.

CC

Wax on wax off

No use fighting tree unless tree has good wood

[boppyblue]

That stupid old cracker; you should have gave him water filled with urine and spit. Typical white demented bastards! Something like that happens all the time even in the great melting pot of NYC. This ugly jewish american princess says to me one day who I thought was my friend....Lets order chinks for lunch today (referring chink as chinese food) My blood boiled! That jewish bitch, mind you a child of holocaust parents, had the never to ask me why I was mad at her. When shit like that happens, it makes me boil up. I don't blame you for being mad; I think sometimes you need to get mad and tell those racist hatemongers off. You will feel better. I'm sure that old bastard is dead by now and a dog to pee on his tombstone showed up for his funeral.

[Irezumi Kiss]

He said, "you heard me, boy. Go tell that pretty young nurse to come here and fill my glass up with water, you black bastard....And then I left before the nurse (who was black, btw) could say anything.

I couldn't help but notice that he called you the n-bomb, yet referred to the nurse he wanted as "pretty" and she was Black...if that's the one he wanted in the first place, if the nurses there are predominantly Black.

[yoMAMA]

That stupid old cracker; you should have gave him water filled with urine and spit. Typical white demented bastards! Something like that happens all the time even in the great melting pot of NYC. This ugly jewish american princess says to me one day who I thought was my friend....Lets order chinks for lunch today (referring chink as chinese food) My blood boiled! That jewish bitch, mind you a child of holocaust parents, had the never to ask me why I was mad at her. When shit like that happens, it makes me boil up. I don't blame you for being mad; I think sometimes you need to get mad and tell those racist hatemongers off. You will feel better. I'm sure that old bastard is dead by now and a dog to pee on his tombstone showed up for his funeral.

yeah, I wonder how she will feel if you ask her to get some "kike's bagel shop" or "auschwitz donut place".

idiots.

[Hiroshi2]

I couldn't help but notice that he called you the n-bomb, yet referred to the nurse he wanted as "pretty" and she was Black...if that's the one he wanted in the first place, if the nurses there are predominantly Black.



Control the men, fuck the women. That's the way to keep a people down. That's what white people up until very recently, especially down here.


Everybody knows slaveowners raped female slaves (hell, maybe even a couple of unlucky male ones)...................so no surprise there.

Most of the nurses at the hospital are not black btw, well it's probably half and half. Maybe 40% black at the least. Lot of black nurses there, that's the point. This was the good hospital, if it had been the little ghetto public hospital across the street, yeah it would've been a lot of black nurses.

[TB4000]

Control the men, fuck the women. That's the way to keep a people down. That's what white people up until very recently, especially down here.


Everybody knows slaveowners raped female slaves (hell, maybe even a couple of unlucky male ones)...................so no surprise there.

Most of the nurses at the hospital are not black btw, well it's probably half and half. Maybe 40% black at the least. Lot of black nurses there, that's the point. This was the good hospital, if it had been the little ghetto public hospital across the street, yeah it would've been a lot of black nurses.
LOL, whenever you see a black, latina, or asian chick in a group of white guys, puts it all into perspective don't it? :rolleyes:

I'm just messing around, but seriously, I know what you're driving at.

[mr. x]

clearly mr white man wanted to save the black damsel in distress from the black peril that is hiroshi

im just playing. but seriously though hiroshi, brush it off your shoulder cuz the only way this shriveled fuck can win is he gets to you

the best way to show him up is go out there and be happy

[Hiroshi2]

^ Or to push him down some stairs. Goddamn, that still sounds like a good idea. At least I'll *feel* better....................


That would most definitely be the most evil shit I've ever done though, if I ever did do it.



"Buckle up, cracker!" And then one by one, wheel by wheel, his hostpial bed would fall apart as it hit every single little metal step.


BWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[MovingForward]

[QUOTE=MovingForward]


Thank you Moving Forward, for that information about White people and the word "nigger". If you have any other information about racism, please feel free to share it with me.

Thank you.

CC

I'm sorry for stating the obvious - I was sensing that a 17 year old individual was in danger of getting himself off track with questions about regional folk and whether he could or should initiate physical confrontation - perhaps my desire was to ensure said individual didn't waste energy or future on combating the wrong fixtures of where he lives currently - and the folk he is having a problem with are indeed fixtures per the experiences shared with me by those who have lived there before him.

I didn't want to patronize anybody, and that includes you - I just have to share that with you today.

Thanks.

[ChaCha]

He's old and senile, he'll die.
I've been called "chinese bitch" I wasn't really bothered I just made sure she knew there were other Asian countries that exist, I told her to name ONE other asian country she knew of other than China and she couldnt name any. Oh sweet sweet Candace Delancey is haggard looking with kids and drugs problems. It's your typical ignorant white trash that talk like that. I don't feel threatened by ppl who show their racist thoughts upfront it's the ones that hide it (because once they've shown that side, they've already lost). My ex vietnamese roommate married (illegally for citizenship) a tall well built black guy and I thought he was quite attractive but she kept refering to him as "gorrilla or monkey" behind his back, honestly her and her vietnamese boyfriend looked closer to a primate. I rather have someone say it to my face then someone who is polite upfront and harbors another motive or deep hidden hatred.

[Hiroshi2]

Ooooooh, not to take away from the original topic, but more suspicious behavior.


Today our school girls and boys' varsity team played in a playoff tournament in a little town called Hanceville, AL about a hour outside of Birmingham. Practically the whole school showed up today, just skipped school to be there. This town is a little small ass, country ass town, right......................and the whole county is all-white. It's supposed to be like the only county in Alabama where there are virtually no blacks and the people's attitudes tend to reflect the fact that they don't like blacks in their communities. We played Cullman High School, the local high school in the area, in the tournament. Now everybody on our basketball team was black...........................everybody on their team was white. Almost everybody in the stands with us was black, and I could not find a single black face in their crowd. When the people who came to support us who showed up late could not find a seat in our part of the gym, they seated themselves near the Cullman High crowd, the white folks. Now these were older black people (parents, etc) who were not causing a disturbance, just taking whatever empty seats they can to watch the game, and these three local cops (all old white men) come over and tell them they can't seat there, it's a "reserved section" and all that shit. Reserved my ass..............they didn't do that shit for nobody else, like when two white schools played each other.....................but it just so happens when one all-white school plays an all-black school, they gotta keep them seperate. Tsk. Tsk. And then during the game, the refs blatantly tried to cheat towards the end of the game by not calling obvious fouls and out-of-bounds violations, just to give the local team (the white team) a boost. And then too............................when there were a bunch of black kids standing in the landing area, they said we were loitering and had to take a seat, but when a bunch of white kids from round the way did the same thing (making more noise than us, and some of them had their shirts off, mind you) they didn't say shit to them. Fuck that little racist town.

[thaite]

Go west, young man.

[Atealtha]

You think a few words are bad. Recently a burning cross was in front of an inter-racial couple's front lawn in Long Island. Beatings where the police don't do anything still go on. And believe it or not, there are still lynchings going on, Mississippi Burning style.

The white supremacy is a very good explanation. Maybe the failing brain is putting all of its subconcious out into physical form.

[Chu Chi]

[QUOTE=Chu Chi]

I'm sorry for stating the obvious - I was sensing that a 17 year old individual was in danger of getting himself off track with questions about regional folk and whether he could or should initiate physical confrontation - perhaps my desire was to ensure said individual didn't waste energy or future on combating the wrong fixtures of where he lives currently - and the folk he is having a problem with are indeed fixtures per the experiences shared with me by those who have lived there before him.

I didn't want to patronize anybody, and that includes you - I just have to share that with you today.

Thanks.


Please continue to share MF. When it comes to racism, I'll take as much help and support as I can get, especially from White people. What may seem "obvious" for you, is very confusing for me as I have yet to discover/create a mechanism for determining Which White people are White supremacists.

Indeed, as you stated, some White people are "flat out lie"; by the time I find out, its too late, the damage has been done.

How do you determine when a person is a racist?

CC

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Elderly people acting like assholes need to get smacked down. Especially the ones who think they can use poor health or society's natural respect for them or whatever to act uncivilized and ignore the rules and standards of the very society which is paying for their continued existence.

As for me, next old lady in line at the bus stop who pokes me with an umbrella and then makes some comment about "sei gweilo" when I smack her umbrella away is gonna get pushed onto the fucking street to get run over by a double-decker.

[evry_oda_grl]

Elderly people acting like assholes need to get smacked down. Especially the ones who think they can use poor health or society's natural respect for them or whatever to act uncivilized and ignore the rules and standards of the very society which is paying for their continued existence.

As for me, next old lady in line at the bus stop who pokes me with an umbrella and then makes some comment about "sei gweilo" when I smack her umbrella away is gonna get pushed onto the fucking street to get run over by a double-decker.

heh...nice...but luckily there's less racism in hk..well atleast dey dunt say it outloud cause d local's engish sucks n dey noe it :tongue: ...btw...y du white ppl fink they're betta dan odas nyways?...dunt they knoe that it was d chinese hu invented paper, wood houses, money, compasses n stuff like dat?...plus...i watched a document dat said d first human was african...we shud b more superior...plus sum1 did a survey n lots of white americans thought that HongKong was sumwhere in Japan which shows how stupid sum ppl r...fuck dat...

[SunWuKong]

heh...nice...but luckily there's less racism in hk..well atleast dey dunt say it outloud cause d local's engish sucks n dey noe it :tongue: ...btw...y du white ppl fink they're betta dan odas nyways?...dunt they knoe that it was d chinese hu invented paper, wood houses, money, compasses n stuff like dat?...plus...i watched a document dat said d first human was african...we shud b more superior...plus sum1 did a survey n lots of white americans thought that HongKong was sumwhere in Japan which shows how stupid sum ppl r...fuck dat...

no offense, but your posts are very hard to read. try using correct spelling?