Eurasian Alliance

[Hapa Meister]

I am eagerly awainting the day when Eurasians reach strong numbers and are well represented in many professions, labor unions, boards, companies, etc. so we can improve our overall networking.

I hopefully will marry a hapa when I return to the hapa homeland and would like to contribute by possibly having more children than I would think of having with a non-hapa. Thus, instead of say 2-3 kids I would consider having 5-7 kids if my wife is also a hapa/Eurasian. :smile:

P.S. I am an "only child" hapa. :frown: No hapa cousins either. :frown:

[rice cracker]

This post tickled my funny bone, I think it was just the wording. I must ask, though, why just Eurasians? Should blasians and mestisians and whatever other mixes I don't have slangy terms for be included?

[Hapa Meister]

I would also include them, esp. since they're even smaller minorities than us.

I felt kind of bad when I saw a Blasian dude in Dallas not quite fitting in with the Asian crowd at a nightclub here. For some reason I don't approach hapas here as readily as I do in Asia. Possibly because I feel more comfortable talking to strangers there than I do here. btw- I'm originally from Honolulu, Hawaii and intend on returning when I finish up here within the next 16 months. Yeehaw!

Where do you live?

[BeTheReds]

Hapa Meister... might I direct you to eurasiannation.com? It seems like that would be a better place for you. Based on your posts so far, it doesn't seem like you have much interest in empowering Asian-America.

Oh, and. Where is the Hapa homeland? LOL!

[Hapa Meister]

Asian-America in California probably isn't half as bad as it is in Texsuck.

Hawaii is the Hapa Homeland. I've had enough of those AzN PrYdErS and Rednecks.

As for empowering Asian America, that be a worst case scenario for me if I have to do a few years in California before transferring to the Pacific. :frown:

When I finally settle back into my land of birth y'all can come visit the Meister Mansion. :rolleyes: Once the opportunities/economy improves, fewer hapas like myself will have to begrudingly venture to the mainland (leaving the hapa honeys behind). :mad:

Asian-America in California probably isn't half as bad as it is in Texsuck.

Hawaii is the Hapa Homeland. I've had about enough of these AzN PrYdErS and Rednecks on the mainland.

As for empowering Asian America, that be a worst case scenario for me if I have to do a few years in California before transferring to the Pacific. :frown:

When I finally settle back into my land of birth y'all can come visit the Meister Mansion. :rolleyes: Once the opportunities/economy improves, fewer hapas like myself will have to begrudingly venture to the mainland (leaving the hapa honeys behind). :mad:

[thaite]

he's so adamant, he had to say it twice!

[Smush]

Don't worry, he'll direct this hapa pride to Asian pride soon. Move to Kansas and tell me how hapa you'd feel Meister.

¿Tiene usted el orgullo chino?

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Is it just me, or is the we're-so-much-more-open-minded-and-progressive-than-you-cause-we're-more-diverse-and-well-mixed attitude harbored by some people from Hawaii a bit annoying? Admittedly in my experiences, most of the people that like to think this way have expressed their opinions online and not in real life.

[Smush]

Is it just me, or is the we're-so-much-more-open-minded-and-progressive-than-you-cause-we're-more-diverse-and-well-mixed attitude harbored by some people from Hawaii a bit annoying? Admittedly in my experiences, most of the people that like to think this way have expressed their opinions online and not in real life.

Being from Honolulu, HI myself I have to sorta agree. Though in actuality, it may mostly be people who are out of Hawaii longing to get back.

I mostly remember Honolulu as Asians, and a huge number, maybe even more than half, of the hapas have Asian dads, and most hapas are gonna fall in with Asian and hapa friends anyways since Asian culture is more dominant in Hawaii and there's no way you'd become whitewashed.

For that reason ohh god I miss livin in Honolulu, though LA is nice, feels to large though

[Hapa Meister]

You're only 19, buddy. How long have you been in Los Angeles?

Hawaii "openmindedness" does not apply as much to White people.

[Smush]

You're only 19, buddy. How long have you been in Los Angeles?

Hawaii "openmindedness" does not apply as much to White people.


Year so far, gonna be here for a couple more years in UCLA.

I have to agree about "openmindedness" in Hawaii not being applied to whites, but that's because Hawaii shows more of an influence of Asian culture.

[Hapa Meister]

Dude, when I first got to Texas I used to cuss ("fucking haole", "damn that haole fucker") in my head at some of the haoler seeming/looking Professors in my professional program.
It took about 2 years to remove some of these mind blocks.

[Hapa Meister]

Oh yeah, what's your mix and how many hot hapa sisters do you have back in Honolulu? :smile:

[Hello_Tyger]

^ HM: enough with the "let's get together and take over the world" stuff.

Sheeeeesh.

I think "Eurasian Alliances" do quite well in...um...CYBERSPACE!

Isn't that enough for you, homie?

c'mon now. Wake up.

[Hapa Meister]

Are you familiar with my reputation?

It's not so much take over the world, but make a more hapa plentiful world. :wink:

[Hapa Meister]

It will be bloody marvelous!

[hooligan]

Year so far, gonna be here for a couple more years in UCLA.

I have to agree about "openmindedness" in Hawaii not being applied to whites, but that's because Hawaii shows more of an influence of Asian culture.

Hey Smush, you're at UCLA? I just graduated from there, I'm still working at UCLA. We ought to kick it some time? Ever heard of CAPSA? I'm part of that org if you want to come and see what' it's all about. PM me or something : ) peace.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Hawaii is the Hapa Homeland. I've had about enough of these AzN PrYdErS and Rednecks on the mainland.

Uh....yeah....because us whites and Asians on the mainland that weren't blessed with parents of different racial background in contrast to each other are of course all either one or the other.

[Hello_Tyger]

Hapa Meister: i agree with BeTheReds in that you should return to EurasianNation.com to espouse your views.

You left your "Cultural Revolution" incomplete during your stay and thus will be missing from the annals of World History alongside other great thinkers i.e. Einstein, Newton, Da Vinci, etc.

please reconsider.

[Smush]

Oh yeah, what's your mix and how many hot hapa sisters do you have back in Honolulu? :smile:

Thai-Scottish

My sisters isn't in Honolulu right now, but there are definitely a lot of hot chicks back there. :rolleyes:

Dude, when I first got to Texas I used to cuss ("fucking haole", "damn that haole fucker") in my head at some of the haoler seeming/looking Professors in my professional program.
It took about 2 years to remove some of these mind blocks.

I know what you mean. It's different in LA here because everyone here is used to Asians, but in Texas, I'm picturing a typical thick-accent Texan mouthing off.

[Smush]

Hey Smush, you're at UCLA? I just graduated from there, I'm still working at UCLA. We ought to kick it some time? Ever heard of CAPSA? I'm part of that org if you want to come and see what' it's all about. PM me or something : ) peace.

That sounds tight, I heard some about it around campus. I'll definitely take a closer look.

[BeTheReds]

Take it to PM you guys!

[yuuteya]

In case you didnt know, there actually is a real place like a "Hapa Homeland" where everyone is like half Asian/Euro, like everyone, and its been existing for the past 1000 years or so. Met a bunch of people from those countries. Cool crowd and a great sense of humor :biggrin:

[mr. x]

In case you didnt know, there actually is a real place like a "Hapa Homeland" where everyone is like half Asian/Euro, like everyone, and its been existing for the past 1000 years or so. Met a bunch of people from those countries. Cool crowd and a great sense of humor :biggrin:
is that possible? i mean i asked before if a biracial person has kids with a biracial person (both say white/asian) then are the kids still bi-racial? :confused:

[yuuteya]

Its not just possible, its actually real. There are actually countries populated by "Hapas", using the American idea of it. Like when people think "Euro" they think like, France, England, Germany, around there right. And when people think "Asian" its like China, Japan, etc right. But the "Eurasian Alliance" as you put it actually exists in the Central Asian states in the middle of the continent. I met a bunch of students from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. And they are like so totally "Hapa", like they totally have this understanding that they are the people in between Europe and Asia that have been around for a 1000 years or more, and they say they are the real Eurasians. Have you met people from Central Asia? Like they look totally "Euro-Asian" looking. Some look more to the Asian-side, some to the Euro-side, and some look exactly half-half, whatever that means, but they are all mixed Euro-Asia people and thats how they identify. Theyres some really beautiful Kazak and Uzbek girls too! :wink: Those guys are THE original Hapas. I gotta visit there sometime in my life.

[asvenus]

wot the...i think the 'hapa' people you speak of may somewhat disagree with such a simplistic and innacurate portrayl of their ethnicity...there is a land mass called 'Eurasia' which is basically eastern europe as for the inhabitants looking as you define 'totally' anything and defining them selves as such is utter fantasy...the majority of the people living there probably have never even heard of the term 'hapa'...this thread is annoying...

[BeTheReds]

is that possible? i mean i asked before if a biracial person has kids with a biracial person (both say white/asian) then are the kids still bi-racial? :confused:


Yes, as long as the parents are the same two races.

[yuuteya]

hmm :frown: you kind folks seem to be rigid in some respects, so here let me quote myself then
Its not just possible, its actually real. There are actually countries populated by "Hapas", using the American idea of it. Like when people think "Euro" they think like, France, England, Germany, around there right. And when people think "Asian" its like China, Japan, etc right. But the "Eurasian Alliance" as you put it actually exists in the Central Asian states in the middle of the continent. I met a bunch of students from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

As for "Eurasia" meaning Eastern Europe, no. Technically, "Eurasia" refers to that contiguous landmass stretching from China all the way to France, including all the off-shore islands such as Britain and Japan that surround it. Europe is sometimes referred to as a peninsula of Asia, in that regard. The "middle" of this supercontinent, give or take a few states, would include the "Central Asian" states of the former Soviet Union (now CIS).

As for being annoyed by this thread? Well thats your right. Considering that this is an Asian (US) American generated site, then the concepts and imaginations in here would generally be those that come from the United States. "Hapa" and the pan-Asianist idea of an "Asian American people" are American constructions, and thus for someone outside of that context it might seem "different" or "annoying" from what youre used to. People of "East Asian" descent are still referred to as "Oriental" in Britain, while the "South Asians" are the "Asians", arent they? What about "Hapas" (in the U.S. sense of it), what would they be referred to in Britain? "Hybrids"?

Yes, I took a US idea and applied it to a non-US situation. Am I guilty of contrubuting to US cultural hegemony and expansion? Yes and no, perhaps. But my ideas/constructions are a reflection of my past experiences, and so, I can only admit to such every time I talk. Well, if thats the case then maybe I should not say anything anymore.

When I talked to my Uzbek and Kazak classmates, I talk as myself, so I cant help but naturally use North American ideas. We talked about this "Euro-Asian", "mixed race" stuff with each other. After they heard my perspective, then they came up with that stuff. They said they were like "Hapa" (in the way Americans use the word). They were Euro-Asian long before "Hapa" was invented. They were proud to say that Central Asia was the crossroads of Eurasia, where the Silk Road from Rome to China passed through, and used to be part of the Mongolian Empire that stretched from Korea to Vienna. So "Euro" looking people and "Asian" looking people have been mixing there for over 1000 years. Thats what they said. So you see, they used a US concept, to reinterpret my own idea back to me, from their view.

As for political gains? Haaa? :frown: ..Of course I know that when I speak its "my" words, so for you to point it out is unnecessary. Im well aware that such ideas are actually fabrications and its politics and power "makes" them into a "reality". Of course my own words reflect the way I personally imagine the world. Its my own personal world view. As for having some kind of political agenda? Sorry, but my empire extends no further than the tip of my nose.

[BeTheReds]

What you are failing to realize though is that their situation isn't anything at all like the american hapa's experience because of many factors, cheif of which being that they are the ethnic majority there, they don't see their existance as being part this and part that, but something entirely different (and not new). They have an indigenous culture and language particular to themselves and an ancestral homeland, and their parents aren't of different races.

None of this is an american idea, and none of it has anything to do with american hapa experiences, because american hapas don't have any kind of connectivity with each other other than in college campus groups.

[yuuteya]

I think its quite obvious that whats going on in the United States recently and whats been going on in Central Asia for quite a while, they are not the same situation and they are quite different. I think we all have the ability to notice "difference". Thats pretty basic.

But I think the point is one of approach. While some seek to reinforce borders between concepts, others seek to bridge them and "create" connections.

If there is some issue with what those Central Asian students told me, which I thought was creative and cool, then so be it. We were just trying to find commonality with each other, which is what people usually do to make friendships and create bonds. Im not one to stick to "my own kind" and Im pretty open to new people and ideas.

[asvenus]

sorry yuuteya if that all came out abit cowish..no personal offence intended ok
i think BTR has basically said what i was trying to convey in a less cowish manner.. :redface:

theres nothing wrong with trying to find 'commonality' between peoples

[BeTheReds]

Of course not, if commonality is what you desire, then more power to you. But, I took what you were saying as "we are basically the same people" when they have over 1000+ years of regional indigenous and communal history. American hapas are still dealing with self identity and their existance is an individual thing, plus, it's still only a phenominon worth noticing in the last 20 or 30 years.

[yuuteya]

asvenus, no prob, sorry i was a little agitated, good point by the way :smile:

heres something to imagine..
what's American Hapa identity going to be like after 1000+ years?? :wink:

[BeTheReds]

asvenus, no prob, sorry i was a little agitated, good point by the way :smile:

heres something to imagine..
what's American Hapa identity going to be like after 1000+ years?? :wink:


Well, unless "hapas" (and by what you posted earlier, I'm sure you really mean Eurasians) only have kids with each other, either nonexistant, or pretty much exactly like it is today.

Nonexistent in the sense that most of America will be mixed by then so it won't be any kind of big deal, but the majority of people will be white, black, and latino mixes rather than asian-white mixes.

And pretty much like it is today meaning, if i'm wrong on the above, and people still generally stick to their own race, there will still be unions between pure whites and pure asians creating eurasians, but they still wont have any connectivity with each other, much like today.

[yuuteya]

Well, this thread is entitled "Eurasian" Aliance.

Thanks. Interesting ideas..

[Hapa Meister]

FYI- there are hapa celebrity cliques in Asia. One of the most prominent Malaysian couples is that of Eurasian race car driver Alex Yoong and his Eurasian wife Ariana Teo (former Miss Malaysia and Miss World, whose sister Lina Teo is also a former Miss Malaysia and 2nd runner-up to Miss World).
Malaysia's Julia Roberts equivalent- Jojo Struys is the result of two Eurasian parents. Fantastic, no!? :smile:

[yuuteya]

FYI- there are hapa celebrity cliques in Asia. One of the most prominent Malaysian couples is that of Eurasian race car driver Alex Yoong and his Eurasian wife Ariana Teo (former Miss Malaysia and Miss World, whose sister Lina Teo is also a former Miss Malaysia and 2nd runner-up to Miss World).
Malaysia's Julia Roberts equivalent- Jojo Struys is the result of two Eurasian parents. Fantastic, no!? :smile:

Cool. Definitely some Eurasian alliances they got goin on there :wink:

[BeTheReds]

FYI- there are hapa celebrity cliques in Asia. One of the most prominent Malaysian couples is that of Eurasian race car driver Alex Yoong and his Eurasian wife Ariana Teo (former Miss Malaysia and Miss World, whose sister Lina Teo is also a former Miss Malaysia and 2nd runner-up to Miss World).
Malaysia's Julia Roberts equivalent- Jojo Struys is the result of two Eurasian parents. Fantastic, no!? :smile:


Why is that so fantastic?

[Hapa Meister]

It's fantastic when you compare this to being some Space Alien in Texas. :mad:

[BeTheReds]

Hapa Meister....

What is your stake in Asian-America? What do you have to gain from a politically aware Asian-America?

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I grew up in an area with virtually no Asians. There are plenty of Asians in China. I think that's fucking fantastic.

[SunWuKong]

I grew up in an area with virtually no Asians. There are plenty of Asians in China. I think that's fucking fantastic.

huh? :confused:

[Napoleon Chynamite]

huh? :confused:

It was a sarcastic (obviously failed) attempt on my part to express how unreasonable it is to think a place is fantastic just because you live in a place without Asians and the place in question has a lot of them (or in hapameister's case, hapas).

[SunWuKong]

It was a sarcastic (obviously failed) attempt on my part to express how unreasonable it is to think a place is fantastic just because you live in a place without Asians and the place in question has a lot of them (or in hapameister's case, hapas).

i thought he said it was fantastic that Jojo Struys' parents are both Eurasians? what does that have to do with living anywhere?

[Hapa Meister]

I grew up in an area with virtually no Asians. There are plenty of Asians in China. I think that's fucking fantastic.

I grew up in a place with a lot of hapas - Hawaii.
As for Asians who grew up in an area with virtually no Asians, I knew a Korean adoptee at the University of Hawaii who fit that description who felt Hawaii was "too Asian" for his taste. :redface:

[yuuteya]

It's fantastic when you compare this to being some Space Alien in Texas. :mad:
So feeling alienated in Texas? Feeling out of place among the Teaxans? Dont fit in over there? Racial? Feeling alienated is a common experience for many Asian-descended minorities

[Smush]

Feeling alienated is a common experience for many Asian-descended minorities

I definitely agree, especially for Asians livin' outside the coasts.

I knew a Korean adoptee at the University of Hawaii who fit that description who felt Hawaii was "too Asian" for his taste.

He's choosing to go to Hawaii anyway, so at least we know that he's not some self-hatin' person.

If anyone wants to know, Hawaii draws a lot of being Asian from the local Japanese, there's a lot of them. Chinese and Vietnamese are everywhere, though not in as large numbers. There are a hella lot of Philipinos in Hawaii, and their immigration is the reason why Hawaii is becoming more and more Asian as time goes on. Then there's the hapas, so much that no one even cares if you're mixed.

Damn I wanna move back to Hawaii after college too lol :smile:

[Hapa Meister]

I definitely agree, especially for Asians livin' outside the coasts.

Even worse for a Hawaiian Hapa. At least Asians have their Asian cliques, etc. The Hawaiian Hapa has no one.

He's choosing to go to Hawaii anyway, so at least we know that he's not some self-hatin' person.

He was only there for a year+. I don't think he stayed much longer. He said the place was "too Asian" for him.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Even worse for a Hawaiian Hapa. At least Asians have their Asian cliques, etc. The Hawaiian Hapa has no one.

Well at least from what I've observed, most Hapas don't really have trouble being accepted by whites or Asian groups unless the groups in question are complete ignorant asswipes, so I really don't understand this hapa victim I-can't-find-anywhere-to-fit-in mentality. Maybe everyone here is just super nice. And I don't live in Hawaii~

[Hapa Meister]

Well at least from what I've observed, most Hapas don't really have trouble being accepted by whites or Asian groups unless the groups in question are complete ignorant asswipes

or so you think... :frown:

[Smush]

or so you think...

I noticed the same thing sometimes too, as a younger teenager it was hard to fit in with whites because I looked and acted different, and it was harder to fit in with the Asian cliques because I acted and looked sorta different.

It's a lot easier fitting in during college here, a lot of people seemed to have outgrown the annoying cliquish-ness of highschool.

Though I'm assuming Texas, especially around Dallas, would be hard to stomach for many people, Asians and hapa alike. Houston has Yao going for them, though that's a different story.

[BeTheReds]

Enough!

[BeTheReds]

Open!!!