Whitewashed or Ghetto Asians

[Smush]

Who would you prefer to be around?

Personally, I'd say Ghetto Asians, because though they have the whole "pretending to be black" thing going on, they're still prideful of being Asian, and won't take racist shit down their throat like I've seen some fellow Asians kids do back in the suburbs.

[tvbdude]

I rather chill with the ghettoized ones.

[Craig]

Neither. I prefer to avoid people with major identity issues.

[AngryABCGirl]

Ghettoized ones, usually they're a stage ahead in their identity development and will eventually settle into being Asian.

[deez nuts]

i'd rather be by myself.

but, if i really had to choose. i would choose white washed asians cuz they irritate me less at this point.

[Banana]

It's like choosing to play naked Twister with all of the Golden Girls or having a glass rod shoved up your penis and smashing it with a hammer.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Guys: ghetto Asians, cuz even though the words coming out of their mouths may annoy the hell outta me, at least they're all making a conscious effort not to talk in a whiny-ass nasal voice.

Girls: whitewashed Asians. Dunno why.

Of course, this is all hypothetical, since I barely have any ABC friends over here in HK.

[achtungbaby]

I accept all of you in the Fold:)

[Tao]

white washed, i'm used to them

[537]

I'll hang out with anybody that doesn't raise up stupid questions like these.



:eek:

[hooligan]

anyone who wants to change the wooorlllddd

[loserbutt]

whitewashed, because I am one

[John0101]

suburban asian kids who have a strong sense of their asian identity.

ghetto asians aren't ghetto, they're just pretending to be ghetto!

[sOKaLiBoY]

ghetto ones of course since me and all of my friends are. even though i have nothing against the whitewashed ones

[Mr.Lum]

I would choose them by the individual. Some ghetto asians are annoying as hell. Some whitewashed girls are hot, some easier to talk to. Some ghetto asians are more fun. Depends.

[thaite]

why do i have to prefer one over the other?

[TB4000]

LOL, this whole thread enlightens me and has me rolling all at once.

[golden_buns]

In general; Whitewashed because they're less annoying.

But I'd rather go for individual basis cuz I've also met some pretty cool ghetto asians. Although the majority are a hole bunch of rich suburban kids, trying to act all badass as if they were from dA' h0oD, and will give you the dirty look for no fucking reason

[hooligan]

In general; Whitewashed because they're less annoying.

But I'd rather go for individual basis cuz I've also met some pretty cool ghetto asians. Although the majority are a hole bunch of rich suburban kids, trying to act all badass as if they were from dA' h0oD, and will give you the dirty look for no fucking reason
nah way, the whitewashed ones are more annoying. the way they talk about lucy liu and think jackie chan is hilarious. the ghetto ones at least act like they're going to shoot you.

[applehead]

It's like choosing to play naked Twister with all of the Golden Girls or having a glass rod shoved up your penis and smashing it with a hammer.

you'd be crazy not to choose to play twister
with the girls!
:tongue:

[golden_buns]

nah way, the whitewashed ones are more annoying. the way they talk about lucy liu and think jackie chan is hilarious. the ghetto ones at least act like they're going to shoot you.

It's a tough choice.

[hooligan]

It's a tough choice.
abercrombie vs. sean john ?

[golden_buns]

abercrombie vs. sean john ?
I'd rather be butt-naked

[Mr.Lum]

I'd rather be butt-naked

So it's Abercrombie then? :wink:

[deez nuts]

abercrombie vs. sean john ?

i would have to choose abercrombie cuz my momma never blazed with nor was she "hit" by p-diddy nor did she proceed to change his linen afterwards. on top of that, sean john is even more overpriced crap than abercrombie.


I'd rather be butt-naked

ooooh la la. we can wear our matching gucci thongs.

[tapestrybabe]

yo, wud up my gangsta ghetto asians
you know it...
this whitewashed korean is all
about acceptin', all about respectin'...
so you know i love you all...

:)

[golden_buns]

ooooh la la. we can wear our matching gucci thongs.

And serenade the ladies with "The Mammal Song" for christmas

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I like to hang out with whitewashed asians that try to act ghetto and hard when they grew up in upper-middle-class neighborhoods or suburbia, much like myself.

[hooligan]

How about the down-socially progressive asians?

[Fireblade]

I'm cool with anyone who doesn't piss me off. But that's very precious little.

[artsfartsyjanet]

eventually white washed and ghettoized asians will converge into a happy medium. the answer is neither.

[asvenus]

ditto...!! although some ghetto asians its hard to tell nowadys if theyre black or asian...i cant tell :confused: whitewashed asians make me laugh as theyre usually the only ones that think theyre 'one of the gang' (as in the white gang) not knowing that everyone else refers to them as 'the asian one?'... :rolleyes:

[DragonKnight]

I'm open-minded. I find them both equally annoying.

[Mavurik]

When I see asians adopting positive aspects of black culture into their lives it makes me happy, however, only if they're not neglecting their own culture in the process. I think people should respect their cultures. I've talked with some of my friends and to them, I was informed that being whitewashed is basically forgetting their asian culture and trying to be white (or American, or whatever you want to call it). I think that's pretty sad, to neglect your culture entirely (not learn the language, learn and be part of customs, etc) and to look down upon it.

I think this issue has many dimensions (where you come from, what culture you're immersed in, etc) but I'll speak in terms of generality. If you've grown up with complete access to your own culture and you choose to neglect it and forget who you are, I think that's pretty sad.

[Smush]

^^ Agreed Mavurik

whitewashed asians make me laugh as theyre usually the only ones that think theyre 'one of the gang' (as in the white gang) not knowing that everyone else refers to them as 'the asian one?'...

I was hanging around with some white kids like when I was just a highschool freshman, finding that out, I wuz like "ohh fuck it!", and hung out with the SE Asian and Black kids.

[Irezumi Kiss]

Keep it gully GHETTOE...huh-HUUUHHH!

http://www.futureshock.co.jp/03_artists/zeebra/img/zeebra_photo2004.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Shrine/8509/zeebra.jpg

The lemonade must be REALLY tart...

and ya d-d-d-don' s-s-s-stop

:tongue:

[mr. x]

does it have to be one or the other?

what happened to middle grounds, what happened to the fobs in the mix?!?!

anyway by whitewashed do you mean the type that are smarter than your typical white kid and show it through speech or stoner party white?

and by ghetto do you mean genuine ghetto or daddy-bought-me-a-lexus ghetto?

[Azn Retribution]

how about neither...
those who are neither really white or really ghetto are alot hotter and better to talk to.

[BigLew]

So what exactly is "adopting aspects of x culture?". An asian can't be ghetto without trying to be black?

[Irezumi Kiss]

So what exactly is "adopting aspects of x culture?". An asian can't be ghetto without trying to be black?
Well, you know, technically speaking, "ghetto" can be applied to anyone...but in the common tongue, it's just a more PC way of saying the n-word without getting your ass kicked.

I'm not so sure if I'm supposed to be happy to hear it...like ghetto = poor black trash or something...so if one applies it to Whites or Asians or whomever, it's like implying that you're "dumbing down." But it's ingrained into our collective psyches. Even I use it sometimes for the very same reason I hate hearing it being used...wotta world...

[Smush]

does it have to be one or the other?

what happened to middle grounds, what happened to the fobs in the mix?!?!

anyway by whitewashed do you mean the type that are smarter than your typical white kid and show it through speech or stoner party white?

and by ghetto do you mean genuine ghetto or daddy-bought-me-a-lexus ghetto?

By whitewashed I mean "stoner party white", for example an Asian trying to fit in and be popular, not knowing everyone calls them "the asian one".

By ghetto, I mean somewhat genuine, like a Laotian kid who grew up in the city with parents who barely speak English.

True Irezumi Kiss, I may have crossed some bounds with the terms ghetto or whitewashed, but what I truly meant is whether one would rather be around Asians pretending to be white or around the Asian pride types.

[RangerX]

Reading through most of the replies to this interesting thread,

I suspect "Whitewashed _______ " is a code word used to describe a Non-White Person trying to 1) Function as a White Person, 2) avoid being mistreated on the basis of Color (by trying to Function as White) while then mistreating Non-White People in the process, in order to "fit in" with White People.

Not sure about "Ghetto Asians",

All Non-White People are "Ghetto" People

I've made this conclusion based on personal observations, seeing and listening to People -both White and Non-White- describe/associate Non-White People as "Ghetto" but Not White People.

-RangerX
RWSWJ

[sOrr1ez]

I wonder if anyone ever says...

Asian washed Whites/blacks/hispanics.

If you're raised in a certain area, then you sort of turn out a certain way.
I mean... if you wear certain brands then you're automatically *blank blank* washed and if you wear another then you're *blank blank* washed.

It's just when I hear those terms I always wonder what people think is white-washed and ghetto.
Being white and black of course, but besides that...?
And then what's being asian?
Being smart, driving a honda, computer geek, high-tech equipment, attends high-end ivy league college, lawyer-doctor occupation, etc....?

[TB4000]

I wonder if anyone ever says...

Asian washed Whites/blacks/hispanics.

If you're raised in a certain area, then you sort of turn out a certain way.
I mean... if you wear certain brands then you're automatically *blank blank* washed and if you wear another then you're *blank blank* washed.

It's just when I hear those terms I always wonder what people think is white-washed and ghetto.
Being white and black of course, but besides that...?
And then what's being asian?
Being smart, driving a honda, computer geek, high-tech equipment, attends high-end ivy league college, lawyer-doctor occupation, etc....?
LOL, asianwashed whites or blacks are basically labeled as the asiaphile types. In this society you either act "white" or you act "black", or you act like an immigrant, according to some.

[deez nuts]

labels rock.

[aznbybirth]

I'm going to hold out for the third option.

[537]

Well, you know, technically speaking, "ghetto" can be applied to anyone...but in the common tongue, it's just a more PC way of saying the n-word without getting your ass kicked.

I'm not so sure if I'm supposed to be happy to hear it...like ghetto = poor black trash or something...so if one applies it to Whites or Asians or whomever, it's like implying that you're "dumbing down." But it's ingrained into our collective psyches. Even I use it sometimes for the very same reason I hate hearing it being used...wotta world...


Wrong forum to africanize the word "ghetto". Look it up. It's a part of a city where minorities are forced to live due to social, legal, or economic pressure. It began with the Jews as a matter of fact.

Just because you say it's a more PC way of saying 'nigga' doesn't make you correct.

And no, I myself have never thought of 'ghetto' to mean 'black'. Ghetto to me is color-blind.

[TB4000]

Wrong forum to africanize the word "ghetto". Look it up. It's a part of a city where minorities are forced to live due to social, legal, or economic pressure. It began with the Jews as a matter of fact.

Just because you say it's a more PC way of saying 'nigga' doesn't make you correct.

And no, I myself have never thought of 'ghetto' to mean 'black'. Ghetto to me is color-blind.
Your reasoning is correct, but asking the average person in the current times what ghetto means, they won't immediately think of jewish slums, but the average urban black person.

[Cipherous]

not sure about this one,

can't stand either one

[Irezumi Kiss]

Your reasoning is correct, but asking the average person in the current times what ghetto means, they won't immediately think of jewish slums, but the average urban black person.
True that.

Not that I don't see or understand where you're coming from, 537, but in my growing up, "ghetto" was ALL about urban Black people...and NOT the kind you want to invite over your place for a Thanksgiving key party, either!

I know the history of the word NOW, of course...but I have yet to hear the term being applied to Jewish people outside of technical or historical reference...or for that matter, hear anyone of ANY race use it for other context than what it's commonly applied for...in a positive light, yet!

[537]

I'm an average person. I don't think ghetto translates to the average urban black person.


Africanizing the word 'ghetto', if thats a prerogative for the non-asian members of this forum board, is fine by me. Just don't complain when my perception of those members morphs into a view of self-centered vanity. Taking a word that is centuries old created in the name of a people that endured much more hatred and oppression than any other and saying it now means this, is just plain stupid.

FYI, ghetto (to me) means an impoverished area full of hardship where people live there out of tangible or intangible pressures, and acting ghetto means you've been hardened by that life. I've seen plenty of impoverished areas that have never housed a single black person in its entirety. On that note, I've seen plenty non-black individuals act completely ghetto, and that has absolutely nothing to do with a average urban black male.

So no apologies here, but the adoption of the word by the average urban black person doesn't fly. For simplicity's sake, there hasn't even been a real explanation why the lot of you think it refers to an average urbanized black person. Those of you that are saying this is what it means, are simply saying it is so.

[Irezumi Kiss]

I'm an average person. I don't think ghetto translates to the average urban black person.


Africanizing the word 'ghetto', if thats a prerogative for the non-asian members of this forum board, is fine by me. Just don't complain when my perception of those members morphs into a view of self-centered vanity. Taking a word that is centuries old created in the name of a people that endured much more hatred and oppression than any other and saying it now means this, is just plain stupid.

FYI, ghetto (to me) means an impoverished area full of hardship where people live there out of tangible or intangible pressures, and acting ghetto means you've been hardened by that life. I've seen plenty of impoverished areas that have never housed a single black person in its entirety. On that note, I've seen plenty non-black individuals act completely ghetto, and that has absolutely nothing to do with a average urban black male.

So no apologies here, but the adoption of the word by the average urban black person doesn't fly. For simplicity's sake, there hasn't even been a real explanation why the lot of you think it refers to an average urbanized black person. Those of you that are saying this is what it means, are simply saying it is so.

You may refer to yourself as average, but you're able to think outside the box. I don't find that "ghetto" people choose, or even want to think that way.

Well, bottom line (for me alone) is it's not something I'm entirely disagreeing with you on. In fact, I don't disagree with your viewpoint at all. I can only add that the power of that word is greater than any idealistic viewpoint that either you or I may want to attach to it. If you move in circles of like-minded people who share your view, then please try to spread your gospel, because I'm telling you, in all NON-vanity, all VERITY, that most people aren't seeing it that way. Yes, it may be stupid. I don't have to like that, but it's not for me not to like in the first place.

It's less of an adoption of a word than it is an internalization of it. Maybe these days it's more about style and a fashion sense that can be marketed on MTV in the name of "realness" or whatever for certain hip-hop acts and wannabe "gangstas" to push units on idolizing NON-ghetto folk...I don't know what to say to that. The deux ex machina that creates these things are bigger than me, bigger than you, bigger than Webster's or Funk & Wagnalls...and you know what, God willing human beings survive another 200 years or so, the word will probably means something new in a different context, if it hasn't de-evolved out of the lexicon of people's current vocabulary by then due to changing social stratas.

An explanation as to "why" it sometimes truly simply "is so?" Hmmm...I could give you the same, tired-assed spiel you've already heard about certain urban Black communities being impoverished, despondent, desolant, blah blah blah...we'd just be beating dead social horses that have been whipped for several decades and still going on strong now...even in the post Cosby-show millennium...let's just say that a certain kind of Black community has become, by choice, design or perhaps both, the popular poster child for the contemporary "ghetto" image, regardless of the all-race-inclusivity the word COULD imply if people in general WANTED to think that way...

...or don't take MY word for it...ask whathisname, the Asian guy who created that "Ghettopoly" game...just to be fair, maybe, just MAYBE he had a few alternate box designs/illustrations with no stereotypical Black male caricatures adorning the front...or maybe even a few NON-stereotypical ones without the gun and the weed dangling from the lips and the wife-beater tank top...and maybe his "marketing focus group" after careful reasoning and market research, decided on the BEST image that would sell the game with the name most EFFECTIVELY...

[Chu Chi]

Your reasoning is correct, but asking the average person in the current times what ghetto means, they won't immediately think of jewish slums, but the average urban black person.


Exactly, and thats why "The Ghetto" (definite article) is a person and not a place.

And yes, that person is a non white person (a Black person).

This is why if you buy property in "the ghetto" and somehow remove the Black people; your property value will double or triple without you making any repairs and/or improvements.

This is why Black people get nervous when White people start moving into "the ghetto".

They don't like to admit this, but their behavior betrays them.

CC

[kasia]

i never associated 'ghetto' with 'black people' either. i associated it more with Chinatown, if anything.

[moJo]

ghetto asians.

[asvenus]

I'm an average person. I don't think ghetto translates to the average urban black person.


Africanizing the word 'ghetto', if thats a prerogative for the non-asian members of this forum board, is fine by me. Just don't complain when my perception of those members morphs into a view of self-centered vanity. Taking a word that is centuries old created in the name of a people that endured much more hatred and oppression than any other and saying it now means this, is just plain stupid.

FYI, ghetto (to me) means an impoverished area full of hardship where people live there out of tangible or intangible pressures, and acting ghetto means you've been hardened by that life. I've seen plenty of impoverished areas that have never housed a single black person in its entirety. On that note, I've seen plenty non-black individuals act completely ghetto, and that has absolutely nothing to do with a average urban black male.

So no apologies here, but the adoption of the word by the average urban black person doesn't fly. For simplicity's sake, there hasn't even been a real explanation why the lot of you think it refers to an average urbanized black person. Those of you that are saying this is what it means, are simply saying it is so.

serious you sooooo had me upto that point...why do you have to drag the old competition drum and start beating...jeez its so fucking depressing is there one day when people are going to realise that to compare atrocities peoples have been through is really not constructive nor accurate...who are you to decide which 'race' has been 'hit' the hardest..come on..

Irezumikiss...i completetly agree with what you have said regarding the issue its a sad fact that this label has been attached to anything affiliated to the African American people whether they choose to identify themselves with it or not...also i agree that it is naive to think that the majority of people out there think of ghetto as in any other than derrogatory terms and particularly pertaining to black people....

[deez nuts]

so are the blacks claiming sole proprietorship on ghetto the noun or ghetto the adjective.

which one is it and don't be greedy now.

[Irezumi Kiss]

so are the blacks claiming sole proprietorship on ghetto the noun or ghetto the adjective.

which one is it and don't be greedy now.
Haw! You guys can have it ALL if you want, gratis! Even the active verb form of that shit!

I haven't seen any virtue attatched to that word yet and doubt I ever will...

[deez nuts]

Haw! You guys can have it ALL if you want, gratis! Even the active verb form of that shit!

I haven't seen any virtue attatched to that word yet and doubt I ever will...

no. the asians will pass on your offer.

the asians will use substandard indigent urban neighborhood and substandard indigent urban neighborhood person so we won't offend.

[hooligan]

i never associated 'ghetto' with 'black people' either. i associated it more with Chinatown, if anything.
yea, i associate it without color and more in terms of being poor or living poor.

[aznbybirth]

I know that I'm a relative newcomer to YW, but I wanted to point out an oddity. I find it hard to believe that while reading a thread on "Foxtrot", members of this community are quite outraged at that author for making a reference to China when referring to cheap labor, and yet, in this thread, it's ok for some people to equate "ghetto" with black people. hmmm....I don't get it.

It's ok to perpetuate some stereotypes but not others? It just doesn't seem right.

[achtungbaby]

and yet, in this thread, it's ok for some people to equate "ghetto" with black people. hmmm....I don't get it.
Can you cite what you're referring to exactly?

[hooligan]

Can you cite what you're referring to exactly?
i think those people who equate black people with ghetto are african americans as well.

[kasia]

Irezumikiss...i completetly agree with what you have said regarding the issue its a sad fact that this label has been attached to anything affiliated to the African American people whether they choose to identify themselves with it or not...also i agree that it is naive to think that the majority of people out there think of ghetto as in any other than derrogatory terms and particularly pertaining to black people....

naive or perhaps this is an asian forum and it seems as though the majority of us sincerely never made the connection.

[hooligan]

naive or perhaps this is an asian forum and it seems as though the majority of us sincerely never made the connection. I just went through the thread and you're right. I don't think the issue of ghetto, asian and black was raised until ... i think avenus brought it up. Then it kind of went into a discussion into what's ghetto and I think Izemuzi Kiss mentioned that it's a black-oriented word.

I don't think that a "race" can own the idea of "ghetto" at all. I mean, if anyone, it'll probably be the Jewish community. When my friends mention ghetto, they usually refer to the word as something that's poor or urban. It's not coded to be "black", that's not to say it's exclusively black, but rather it contains black motifs. Hip hop, the projects, but there are voices there that aren't black who live in similar conditions. NY Chinatown with Southeast refugees, the LA Chinatown as well.

it's not fair to say that it belongs to any race, rather i think it belongs to this culture of poverty. i also think that those who buy into the whole idea that blacks are the sole proprieter of the term ghetto have bought into the idea that povery in america has a black face. i'm not going to argue that it's probably more likely that the african american population is probably more impoverished than some of the APIA communities, but framing the whole idea of poverty within a racial context serves only the dominant culture.

what about half of the APIA population in the US? a large portion of the APIA community live within the legal definition of poverty and trust me if they had the time to hang out on internet websites and forums they could tell you a lot about living "ghetto". when the idea of being poor is confined to a certain racial context, it marginalizes the ability for those who don't fit that context to have their voices heard. why do you think APIAs are considered the Model Minority even though a large portion of our population live in poverty?

Because everyone defines ghetto or poverty within this racial context. APIAs can't be poor! Oh hell no, it's only the blacks and latinos! The poor APIAs are marginalized and their needs aren't met because due to popular belief, they officially shouldn't exist. That's why it's dangerous and a hell no to define the idea of ghetto and poverty within a racial context.

[asvenus]

oh for goodness sake people...i am not getting into origins and exact definitions of a word i am simply talking about the midless masses that populate our world, not making personal attacks or criticisms upon the people that have more open minds...cool the majority of people on the sight have the open mindedness and intelligence NOT to equate 'ghettoisms' with black culture, unfortunately this is not a commonly held view...i like in the UK you know a whole different continent...and the sentiment from the majority of non-black people is that ghetto (ie:negative connotations = black)...ok

and hooligan save the hooha no one is denying there are millions of people who live within a status that is defined as poverty i am talking about commonly held notions (obviously not within YW) that ghetto equals black hello...the game is called ghettoopoly and denotes an assumption that this pertains to black people... :rolleyes: if you read what im saying you'll find i actually agree with the majority of what you have said...

[hooligan]

oh for goodness sake people...i am not getting into origins and exact definitions of a word i am simply talking about the midless masses that populate our world, not making personal attacks or criticisms upon the people that have more open minds...cool the majority of people on the sight have the open mindedness and intelligence NOT to equate 'ghettoisms' with black culture, unfortunately this is not a commonly held view...i like in the UK you know a whole different continent...and the sentiment from the majority of non-black people is that ghetto (ie:negative connotations = black)...ok

and hooligan save the hooha no one is denying there are millions of people who live within a status that is defined as poverty i am talking about commonly held notions (obviously not within YW) that ghetto equals black hello...the game is called ghettoopoly and denotes an assumption that this pertains to black people... :rolleyes: if you read what im saying you'll find i actually agree with the majority of what you have said...

but, but, we're all part of the mindless masses. : ) i was just pointing out the fact that if ghetto = poor = black. then what is a poor, APIA then?

oh by the way, if you need hooha, yell0's got plenty to spare.

[Hiroshi2]

Yo wtf is a ghetto asian? LOL



Well I take that back I remember I knew this one Filipino kid, he was from a "ghetto" neighborhood and I guess he was a "ghetto asian". HAHAHA.



This is funny.

As far as what defines "ghetto", well.............that's not hard to tell. If I can tell you got a weave.......................and if it's bright red, and you ain't even light-skinned. That's ghetto.




-)

[mrazntre]

Can you cite what you're referring to exactly?

read the thread yo... the first posts in this thread lays it out for you.

I agree with aznbybirth because that's what was pointed out in this thread and it's completely absurd and ridiculous to think that ghetto asians are just trying to be black. Maybe a few of you just don't understand the environment that those particular ghetto asians live in? And no, the ghetto isn't just filled with blacks.

are "midless mass" like people without stomachs?

[kasia]

read the thread yo... the first posts in this thread lays it out for you.


i'd disagree with that, too. i don't see anything that says that in the first page of this thread.

stating that some ghetto asians may "pretend to be black", moreover, is not the same as stating that they are ghetto b/c they pretend to be black. the former names a characteristic. the latter seeks to define.

[mrazntre]

i'd disagree with that, too. i don't see anything that says that in the first page of this thread.

stating that some ghetto asians may "pretend to be black", moreover, is not the same as stating that they are ghetto b/c they pretend to be black. the former names a characteristic. the latter seeks to define.

This is the statement:

"Personally, I'd say Ghetto Asians, because though they have the whole "pretending to be black"

this statement shows a direct relation to "ghetto asians" and "pretending to be black." There is no mention, as you say of SOME ghetto asians, the statement pertains to all. So regardless of whatever your argument, your premise is wrong, thus making your argument wrong.

And if we take the relation that ghetto asians=pretending to be black is also conversely related, we can then see with a rational train of thought that pretending to be black=ghetto. There is no mention of any other race or neighborhood.

Okay, let's take it further, if we're saying ghetto Asians are pretending to be black, is it the premise of the thread starter to address the ways how blacks act whom live in affluent areas? Definitely not. That statement was in no way liberal in its meaning and the specific premise was directly related to "ghetto."

[deez nuts]

Yo wtf is a ghetto asian? LOL


since ghetto asians is defined in this particular thread as asians pretending to be black.

but, if you want to know what a ghetto chinese is, go see the recently immigrated illegal fobs in chinatown and observe their living and working conditions.

me and my childhood friends connect ghetto chinese with "fob" not "fubu" since we all lived or grew up in chinatown at some point when we first came here. substandard indigent urban neighborhood and substandard indigent urban neighborhood persons in all it's glory.

[RangerX]

It has been my experience particularly observing White People nervously and alertly say "We are lost in the Ghetto" or "We are in the Ghetto" where there are Non-White People around, but they do not refer to People as Ghetto when there are nothing but other White People around.

So if I may ask for thoughts and opinions from you all,

What is a Ghetto ?

Are White People Ghetto (People) ?

Are Non-White People Ghetto (People) ?

-RangerX
RWSWJ

[Irezumi Kiss]

^ yah.

The way I see it, there's three definitions of "ghetto" going on here.

1) the literal, technical meaning
2) the colloquial, popular meaning
3) the personal meaning

All are valid, I suppose, depending on context and company.

Funny that there isn't any disagreeing on being "whitewashed."

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Funny that there isn't any disagreeing on being "whitewashed."

Because the definition for 'whitewashed' due to basically the fact that the word 'white' is included is a lot easier to reconcile than 'ghetto' since it's not like 'blackwashed' or 'color-washed'.

[achtungbaby]

read the thread yo... the first posts in this thread lays it out for you.
The thing is, it seems like every post uses the term "ghetto" in some form or another and I was curious whether or not aznbybirth was aware of who was saying what.

i think those people who equate black people with ghetto are african americans as well.
Das what I'm sayin...!

[mr. x]

what i personally can't stand are asian kids who have absolutely no reason to act ghetto (cuz they live far from one) who do

[Balthus Dire]

either one is OK for me although I might be inclined to be more "at home" with the so-called "ghetto" 1's. As for the whitewashed types, I'd be "cool" with them so long as they understood that I AM NOT white or "white-washed" and being not so, they'd have to accept me and not judge me based on their ideals or whatever it was that made them become "white"washed.

[Chu Chi]

what i personally can't stand are asian kids who have absolutely no reason to act ghetto (cuz they live far from one) who do

White people have a long history of "acting Black"; long before M&M there was "Al Jolsen" singing "Mammy". Most of what I learn about "Black culture" comes from White people including this recent phenomenon of "shizzel my twizzel"...

I don't understand it but it seems like they have fun doing it.

It may be similar to the phenomenon I see at the zoo where people stand at the monkey cage and do their best monkey act in an attempt to get a monkey reaction from a REAL monkey; or some laughs from the other people around them.

CC

[kitty]

White people have a long history of "acting Black"; long before M&M there was "Al Jolsen" singing "Mammy". Most of what I learn about "Black culture" comes from White people including this recent phenomenon of "shizzel my twizzel"...

I don't understand it but it seems like they have fun doing it.

It may be similar to the phenomenon I see at the zoo where people stand at the monkey cage and do their best monkey act in an attempt to get a monkey reaction from a REAL monkey; or some laughs from the other people around them.

CC

dude. you realize that calling a black person a 'monkey' is ... uhm... how shall i say it... fucked up? that wasn't the most PC of analogies.

i agree with mr. x -- the poseurs who are like suburban kids trying to be cool by acting poor and street are pathetic -- cuz if you ever tossed 'em in the real hood, they'd be freaking out. but there are those who enter into hip hop culture for legit reasons -- most of the people they're around are in the hip hop scene and they genuinely grew up as part of the culture and enjoy the music. that's okay, to me. They might be 'ghetto asians', but they're not like these totally fake-ass suburban wannabees trying to be cool but who've never spoken to a black person in their lives and who would still treat an african amerian like dirt if they ever met up. give me the whitewashed over those dumbasses any day.

guess which 'kind' of asian was more predominant where I grew up. :)

[nameless]

what i personally can't stand are asian kids who have absolutely no reason to act ghetto (cuz they live far from one) who do

i dunno, i've always thought that the acting blasian by suburb kids thing was a result of identifying with too much mtv. i mean, if i was an impressionable youth (which i wasn't =P) and i saw rappers on tv looking cool and tough and talking about whats its like to live in a white society...i would more readily imitate that compared to the white culture around me.

anyway, i prefer being around other abc's like myself, but if we're talking extremes, i'd go for the ghetto fobolous over the whitewashed.

[Balthus Dire]

Most of what I learn about "Black culture" comes from White people

I don't understand it but it seems like they have fun doing it.


I don't think THAT is cool. That's like me trying to learn about CHINESE culture by talking to HOWARD STERN.

[deez nuts]

all the asians i know that grew up in real substandard indigent urban neighborhoods never want to relive the experience again. we all wanna be yuppies.

White people have a long history of "acting Black"; long before M&M there was "Al Jolsen" singing "Mammy". Most of what I learn about "Black culture" comes from White people including this recent phenomenon of "shizzel my twizzel"...

I don't understand it but it seems like they have fun doing it.

It may be similar to the phenomenon I see at the zoo where people stand at the monkey cage and do their best monkey act in an attempt to get a monkey reaction from a REAL monkey; or some laughs from the other people around them.

CC


why do you think you get negative karma?

[Chu Chi]

why do you think you get negative karma?


First of all, thank you for asking me a question.

I suspect because I seek truth. But I could be incorrect because only the people who do it to me know why they do it.

Perhaps someone can PM me with instructions on how I can find out who is snatching my karma.

CC

[deez nuts]

First of all, thank you for asking me a question.

I suspect because I seek truth. But I could be incorrect because only the people who do it to me know why they do it.

Perhaps someone can PM me with instructions on how I can find out who is snatching my karma.

CC


geez i dunno maybe you're latest bout with negative karma-itis is due to the fact you compared black people to zoo monkeys in cages being observed by white people. personally, i thought this took mad cajones to pull off. but, you probably offended a few along the way with your analogy hence back to the dark side and no soup for you!

i would also like to point out that i do believe it tells you in the user cp who gave you the negative karma and if they want to, the reason why you were given negative karma.

so lemme ask you: why don't you take a peeky peeky looky looky at your user cp? and maybe all will be clearer to you, my son.

[SunWuKong]

all the asians i know that grew up in real substandard indigent urban neighborhoods never want to relive the experience again. we all wanna be yuppies.

but hanging out with yuppies is fucking boring and their motivating factor in life is to live in the best house amongst their peers or be in the best relationship amongst their peers, etc etc. Chinese yuppies are the worst. the women would talk shit about each other behind their backs and when they get together, they brag about how loving their boyfriends/husbands are like they're prize horses. those are the only people i knew when i first moved to DC. now i try to stay away from them.

[deez nuts]

but hanging out with yuppies is fucking boring and their motivating factor in life is to live in the best house amongst their peers or be in the best relationship amongst their peers, etc etc. Chinese yuppies are the worst. the women would talk shit about each other behind their backs and when they get together, they brag about how loving their boyfriends/husbands are like they're prize horses. those are the only people i knew when i first moved to DC. now i try to stay away from them.

come on now

how is this different than chinese non yuppies? women talking shit about each other behind their backs? putting their boyfriend/husband on a pedestal, overexaggerating how great he is and bragging about them? driving a $80,000 car while living in a shitty apartment?

[pretense78]

Sadly, when people use the term whitewashed or ghetto, they're just trying to say in a subtle way that you're either acting white or acting black, point blank. There is no acting like a certain group of people from a community, you're acting black when you're acting ghetto, that is what it's always meant since its inception. Whitewashed equates to acting like a white person, such as being into the whole punk/skate thing, speaking on the phone and assuming the person on the other end is white when they are in fact asian, the whole nine. When someone says it, they may not upfront admit it, but is exactly what they are driving at. I remember earlier on someone mentioned, and it's true, when it comes to people, there are three ways to act in the world...like a white person, a black person, or an immigrant, in the cases of Africans, Europeans, Asians, or Latinos that immigrate here.

[mr. x]

^---that and the fact that the subject matter suggests we the objective person, is in the middle or neither. I mean what is whitewashed? it's much more easier to use that label than ghetto, cuz there's a lot of "ghetto light" kids who live in saratoga...

[Chu Chi]

dude. you realize that calling a black person a 'monkey' is ... uhm... how shall i say it... fucked up? that wasn't the most PC of analogies.




I did not call a Black person a monkey.

I was attempting to understand the behavior of White people who try to act Black, but don't want to BE Black, i.e mistreated on the basis of color.

M&M deals with this racial paradox by adopting all the "Black pathologies"; anger, profanity, poor grammar, hyper-sexuality, abusive behavior, violence against women, drug and alcohol abuse...all the by products of being mistreated on the basis of color,

as a way of saying: "Im so f*cked up Im practically Black".

And it works.


CC

[kitty]

Pet Peeve: The man's name is Eminem.

[Chu Chi]

Pet Peeve: The man's name is Eminem.


Yes, I think his original name was/is Marshall Mathers.

His name choice is both interesting and somewhat ironic.

A White male rapper who's name is synonomous with color coated chocolate balls with nuts inside.

M&M?????

But I could be incorrect,

it could stand for "Marsh Mellow"



CC

[Emperor_Mike]

People are people. Who am I to tell them how to act and behave? Unless they're my kids, I really couldn't care less. I like each and every person for who they are. :smile:

[Andrea]

Neither, people pretending or being wannabes annoys me like hell

[LaiSteve66]

Who would you prefer to be around?

Personally, I'd say Ghetto Asians, because though they have the whole "pretending to be black" thing going on, they're still prideful of being Asian, and won't take racist shit down their throat like I've seen some fellow Asians kids do back in the suburbs.

I used to be ghetto (Asian ghetto, not Black ghetto) so ghetto.

[AltimaGTR]

Neither. I prefer to avoid people with major identity issues. werd

[grimfan]

Asians who express their ethnic pride by stealing black hiphop culture piss me off.

[uhhden]

Asians who express their ethnic pride by stealing black hiphop culture piss me off.

Got rice, bitch? hahahahaha.

[pikachupacabra]

Got rice, bitch? hahahahaha.

got food got soup got spice? hahaha

[TB4000]

I like how latino, asian, and white kids that are deep into hip hop culture are so casual about calling each other nigga. We've come a long way. Brings a tear to my eye, actually.

[LaiSteve66]

I like how latino, asian, and white kids that are deep into hip hop culture are so casual about calling each other nigga. We've come a long way. Brings a tear to my eye, actually.

What happens when one of those people casually calls you "nigga"? I know some Blacks would be ready to open can of ass whoopen'.

[kimpossible]

^Most likely the guys doing that aren't taking chances and doing it in a predominantly Af-Am group. I've seen dippy hippie white kids do it on the train in the presence of one or two black males but the rest of the commuting group on that car were predominantly white. Easy to exert privilege and power when your buddies are there.

[Hiroshi2]

^ Just like a lot of dudes I know will say "bitch bitch bitch" all day but as soon as there's one female there that can hear the conversation, they'll say "girl", "female", or any other word besides "bitch".


If you're gonna call a girl a bitch, call her that when she's there. Don't be a pussy about it.


But for the record Kim, the white boys I grew up with here in Alabama were not shy like that about "nigger". I still vividly remember hearing that word, or other racial slurs/taunts when I was in elementary school when we moved to a white neighborhood on the other side of town. I remember the white kids bullying the black kids and telling us to go back to the west side (damn was I glad when we got some more black kids at our school...........we were pretty outnumbered at first).

[deez nuts]

i only use it amongst my black friends. but, it's usually in the form of a black jokes.

it's funny when i hear non-blacks use the n-word. but, it's just as funny when my black friends use the n word to refer to me - it's the only reason i use the n word in front of them in the first place. i did once tell them that i find it offensive that they think i'm black. ;)

[kimpossible]

But for the record Kim, the white boys I grew up with here in Alabama were not shy like that about "nigger". I still vividly remember hearing that word, or other racial slurs/taunts when I was in elementary school when we moved to a white neighborhood on the other side of town. I remember the white kids bullying the black kids and telling us to go back to the west side (damn was I glad when we got some more black kids at our school...........we were pretty outnumbered at first).

That's my point. Strength in numbers.

^ Just like a lot of dudes I know will say "bitch bitch bitch" all day but as soon as there's one female there that can hear the conversation, they'll say "girl", "female", or any other word besides "bitch".


haha.

[tapestrybabe]

well, i think i'm more white washed...
who wishes she was more like a fob tho...

and the only time
i really like to refer myself
as a so called ghetto asian...
is when i get into my-- yo, wud up...
hip hop, slam poetry kinda mood...

[eos]

i'm sorry but i can't STAND white-washed asians. some people i know are pretty ghetto, but the rest are just your regular asian-americans. don't ask me to describe what that means cuz i wouldn't know how.
most of the kids in my family are white-washed suburbanites, while me and my sister grew up in the "harsh" conditions of blue-collar neighborhoods.

[deez nuts]

i'm sorry but i can't STAND white-washed asians. some people i know are pretty ghetto, but the rest are just your regular asian-americans. don't ask me to describe what that means cuz i wouldn't know how.
most of the kids in my family are white-washed suburbanites, while me and my sister grew up in the "harsh" conditions of blue-collar neighborhoods.

the term ghetto in this particular thread isn't a reference to substandard indigent urban neighborhood and substandard indigent urban neighborhood persons. it's asian kids that wanna be black.

basically the person that started this thread is asking which one would you rather be around: the twinkies or the chiggers.

[unemployable]

For guys I would rather be around chiggers. For females I would rather be with twinkies.

Female twinkies seem to be the cream of the crop of Asian American women, who get accepted into white society. I like to come in and say, "What you need is a thug in yo' life!" and start rocking their world unlike any white man can.

[warcry111]

(Edit: I edited and removed all the links to my sources because YW won't let me submit my reply if I put in the links since I don't have 15 posts or more)

For true ghetto Asian gangstas living in the projects of South Central LA, go to youtube and search for "Inside South Central"

Not your typical ignorant ghetto-wannabe Asian from a rich suburb,

Key lines:

"Yea, we over here in the Pueblo del Rio projects, you know, in South Central LA.":

Types of crimes in South Central LA:

Pueblo del Rio projects:

As most of us hip-hop fans should know, South Central was the birthplace of gangsta rap, which pretty much defined West Coast hip-hop (hyphy was never really recognized and never really became mainstream).


"When we first came here, this shit was, you know what I'm sayin, there was always war against us and, you know, the blacks...":

According to the streetgangs . com forum, the general consensus was that, at first, when the Cambodians were sent by the US government to live in the Pueblo projects, they had beef with the blacks there, notably the 52 Pueblo Bloods gang that ran the Pueblo projects in that particular part of South Central.


"I'm from the set called Eastside Five-Deuce Oriental Blood Gang, you know it's a Cambodian gang here in South Central Los Angeles.....This gang was formed back in the 80's."

Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods, a set of the LA Oriental Boyz/LAOBz gang.

According to the same consensus on the same streetgangs . com forum, after the Cambodians outgunned the 52 PB's with smuggled AK-47's, the 52 PB's made a deal with the Cambodians in which the 52 PB's would be supplied with the smuggled weapons while the Cambodians would get hookups with cocaine. I figure this is where the Blood connection comes in, since the Cambodians were accepted and rode with the 52 PB's. Then, later on, because the Cambodians resented doing all the dirt and were being ratted out by the 52 PB's whenever the 52 PB's fought against other gangs, they split up with the 52 PB's and formed the LAOBz, which later split up into 3 sets, with 2 of the sets existing out of the projects. This Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods set claim Bloods because they chose to retain their Blood affiliation with the 52 PB's and they stayed in their original location in the Pueblo projects. But even though the Cambodians don't ride with the 52 PB's no more, the 52 PB's and the Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods have mutual respect for each other.

Along with the Asian Boyz/ABz in Long Beach who rep Crip and maybe one or two more sets I don't know about, the Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods is among the very few Asian gangs who are recognized as legitimate by the real (black) Bloods and Crips. So the ES 52 OBz claim red/rep Blood not because it's a "cool" fad or something or that they want to be black (both seem to be the case with most Asian gangs who try to rep B's and C's) but because they have connections and history with a real Blood gang. Very interesting. A far from most Asian "gangs" today that claim colors but have no real connections to any real B's or C's and aren't recognized as legit.

"Being a gangsta, you don't choose to be a gangsta, but you know, you have to in some ways to protect all your peoples, your families and shit like that, ya know...."

Don't sound like no fakes or wankstas to me.

I also don't think that any of you people who claim that Asians can't be ghetto without being black have the guts to claim these peeps as wankstas. They're as down as any black gangsta when it comes to opening a can of ass-whoopin.

[warcry111]

(Edit: Nvm, here are the links)

For true ghetto Asian gangstas living in the projects of South Central LA, go to youtube and search for "Inside South Central":

http : //youtube . com/watch?v=JF7ZvdcQzkI

Not your typical ignorant ghetto-wannabe Asian from a rich suburb,

Key lines:

"Yea, we over here in the Pueblo del Rio projects, you know, in South Central LA.":

Types of crimes in South Central LA:
http : //www . streetgangs . com/topics/2004/010104killings.html

Pueblo del Rio projects:
http : //www . streetgangs . com/gallery/pueblo051403/

According to the www . streetgangs . com forum, the general consensus was that, at first, when the Cambodians were sent by the US government to live in the Pueblo projects, they had beef with the blacks there, notably the 52 Pueblo Bloods gang that ran the Pueblo projects in that particular part of South Central.


"I'm from the set called Eastside Five-Deuce Oriental Blood Gang, you know it's a Cambodian gang here in South Central Los Angeles.....This gang was formed back in the 80's."

Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods, a set of the LA Oriental Boyz/LAOBz gang.

According to the same consensus on the same www . streetgangs . com forum, after the Cambodians outgunned the 52 PB's with smuggled AK-47's, the 52 PB's made a deal with the Cambodians in which the 52 PB's would be supplied with the smuggled weapons while the Cambodians would get hookups with cocaine. I figure this is where the Blood connection comes in, since the Cambodians were accepted and rode with the 52 PB's. Then, later on, because the Cambodians resented doing all the dirt and were being ratted out by the 52 PB's whenever the 52 PB's fought against other gangs, they split up with the 52 PB's and formed the LAOBz, which later split up into 3 sets, with 2 of the sets existing out of the projects. This Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods set claim Bloods because they chose to retain their Blood affiliation with the 52 PB's and they stayed in their original location in the Pueblo projects. But even though the Cambodians don't ride with the 52 PB's no more, the 52 PB's and the Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods have mutual respect for each other.

Along with the Asian Boyz/ABz in Long Beach who rep Crip and maybe one or two more sets I don't know about, the Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods is among the very few Asian gangs who are recognized as legitimate by the real (black) Bloods and Crips. So the ES 52 OBz claim red/rep Blood not because it's a "cool" fad or something or that they want to be black (both seem to be the case with most Asian gangs who try to rep B's and C's) but because they have connections and history with a real Blood gang. Very interesting. A far from most Asian "gangs" today that claim colors but have no real connections to any real B's or C's and aren't recognized as legit.

"Being a gangsta, you don't choose to be a gangsta, but you know, you have to in some ways to protect all your peoples, your families and shit like that, ya know...."

Don't sound like no fakes or wankstas to me.

I also don't think that any of you people who claim that Asians can't be ghetto without being black have the guts to claim these peeps as wankstas. They're as down as any black gangsta when it comes to opening a can of ass-whoopin.[

[warcry111]

(Edit: Nvm, here are the links)

For true ghetto Asian gangstas living in the projects of South Central LA, go to youtube and search for "Inside South Central":

http : //youtube . com/watch?v=JF7ZvdcQzkI

Not your typical ignorant ghetto-wannabe Asian from a rich suburb,

Key lines:

"Yea, we over here in the Pueblo del Rio projects, you know, in South Central LA.":

Types of crimes in South Central LA:
http : //www . streetgangs . com/topics/2004/010104killings.html

Pueblo del Rio projects:
http : //www . streetgangs . com/gallery/pueblo051403/

According to the www . streetgangs . com forum, the general consensus was that, at first, when the Cambodians were sent by the US government to live in the Pueblo projects, they had beef with the blacks there, notably the 52 Pueblo Bloods gang that ran the Pueblo projects in that particular part of South Central.


"I'm from the set called Eastside Five-Deuce Oriental Blood Gang, you know it's a Cambodian gang here in South Central Los Angeles.....This gang was formed back in the 80's."

Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods, a set of the LA Oriental Boyz/LAOBz gang.

According to the same consensus on the same www . streetgangs . com forum, after the Cambodians outgunned the 52 PB's with smuggled AK-47's, the 52 PB's made a deal with the Cambodians in which the 52 PB's would be supplied with the smuggled weapons while the Cambodians would get hookups with cocaine. I figure this is where the Blood connection comes in, since the Cambodians were accepted and rode with the 52 PB's. Then, later on, because the Cambodians resented doing all the dirt and were being ratted out by the 52 PB's whenever the 52 PB's fought against other gangs, they split up with the 52 PB's and formed the LAOBz, which later split up into 3 sets, with 2 of the sets existing out of the projects. This Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods set claim Bloods because they chose to retain their Blood affiliation with the 52 PB's and they stayed in their original location in the Pueblo projects. But even though the Cambodians don't ride with the 52 PB's no more, the 52 PB's and the Eastside 52 Oriental Bloods have mutual respect for each other..........

[warcry111]

Sorry, the double post wasn't intentional. This posting message system on this forum is just a bit weird for me, that's all.

[WillyWazza]

Neither imo.

I dislike them both. Especially when some particular white-washed asians I know think it's embarrassing to be asian.

As for asians who try to act black...wtf? Who are u trying to fool, foo?!

[hooligan]

Thanks for the posts Warcry. How about peopel stop stereotyping. I know some awesome APIAs in punk rock and skateboarding. I know some APIAs who write rhymes and know hip hop. Get over it, before you start making fun of other people for liking things that they do, you all should check yourselves.

[warcry111]

Don't get me wrong though, there are some Asians who try to act hard and ghetto even though they really aren't and probably belong to well-off-to-do middle class or rich families (like those kids in safe suburbs or in safe neighborhoods in a major city) and they do annoy me but generally, if I find them friendly enough and they respect me, I don't really use the "actin' white, actin' black" criteria to judge them by. As long as you don't come up to me sayin shit like "Im from da hood, nigga, you fuck wit me nigga, Imma pop a cap in yo ass wit ma 40 glock killa, nigga!" even though he came from some rich suburb or safe neighborhood and his "40 glock killa" is really just a BB gun, I'm cool or else I'm really gonna open a can of whoop-ass on you.

But the point of why I posted that stuff was to show people that not all Asians who act ghetto are trying to act black, and acting ghetto doesn't have to be about acting black or wanting to be black. A few of these Asians, like those Cambodian ES 52 LAOBz gangstas living in the South Central projects, can seriously back up what they say, really do live in the hood in poverty, are really gangbangin and dope slangin, and will not hesitate to pop a cap in anyone who fucks with them, regardless if you're black, Asian, white, Latino, whatever. These few Asians don't act black because of some BET shit, but are ghetto because they really grew up and lived in the ghetto in poverty and were simply victims of their surroundings/environment.

While it is true that LA as a whole (3 million in the city, 9 million in the county) is not really dangerous but just average (has the same homicide rate as San Francisco, which also has its good places and ghettos like most cities in the US), the ghettos of LA are arguably the most dangerous in the US. According to the national police conference, Watts (a neighborhood in South Central LA) was voted the most dangerous neighborhood in the entire US, with police officers 30% more likely to be killed than even in Camden (in New Jersey, city with highest crime rate in 2004-2005), 3 times the [reported] number of shootings than Camden, and twice as many robberies as Detroit. Also, Compton (N.W.A., Eazy-E, Dr. Dre, The Game, Ice Cube, etc.) as a city with only about 97,000 people had a homicide rate (per 100,000 people) of 67.1 (in 2005), making it the murder capital of America (when it comes to cities, but Compton's small size makes Compton's ranking valid since it doesn't have upscale areas to dumb-down the homicide rate). Compton, in LA county, though not officially a part of the city of LA, is considered by most to be part of South Central LA. The majority of crimes in LA city happen in South Central. The point is - South Central LA is crazy according to American standards. T.I., Lil John, Young Jeezy, Nelly, Eminem, Huey, Chingy, Jermaine Dupri and the rest of 'em Dirty South and Midwestern rappers ain't seen shit yet if they think their hoods are the most dangerous - at least they don't have the racial conflict with the ese's to add to the violence and the conflict over colors like they do in South Central.

To top it off, the 52 Pueblo Bloods that these Cambodian gangstas had history with are among the top 20 most active and violent gangs in LA (LA county has about 1,000 gangs).

South Central LA is crazy, especially if you happen to be Asian or black (the Latino gangs like 18th street, Florencia 13, and MS 13 recently turned on the greenlight against both Asians and blacks, regardless if they're gangsters or not - same shit happening in county and state prison) and for these Asian gangstas to even survive in one of LA's most dangerous ghettos in an environment with mostly blacks and Latinos (nevermind the racial violence alone, combine it with gang vs. gang violence) reppin their set and living to tell about how life is in a real hood is amazing. Not only do they have the real Bloods' respect, but they have my respect as well. And even though these ES 52 LAOBz gangstas can't really rap, at least they're really rapping about their life and really living what they rap about - gangs, drive-bys, drugs, hustlin, etc.

[Chad]

destroy all gangs
they should all have the hottest chilis rubbed into their eyes
then send them all to alaskan islands and forget about them. i hate gangs of all colors. i could almost go out and murder a whole lot of them if i didn't have so much to lose right now. kill all the top mafias first, then work down the ranks. let them live in afghanistan for a few decades for reform.

[JesusIsmyFriend]

. Whitewashed equates to acting like a white person, such as being into the whole punk/skate thing, speaking on the phone and assuming the person on the other end is white when they are in fact asian, the whole nine.

The whole punk/skate scene? Isn't punk suppose to be counter-culture? also the phone part, how are Asians suppose to speak...with Asian accents saying Herro?