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kimpossible
10-12-2004, 01:17 PM
Let's try one piece of equipment or ingredient per week. Feel free to add info, suggestions, recommend a place to buy it for cheap, add a themed recipe, tell a story - whatever. As long as it pertains to the equipment or ingredient of the week.

Woks

From Asian Recipes.com (http://www.asianrecipes.com)

The wok is the most important piece of cooking equipment in SouthEast Asia and China. If you plan to do much of this region's cooking you should invest in a good wok. A cast iron fry pan will serve in a pinch, but the rounded bottom of the wok provides a range of cooking temperatures in one pan, which can be important in stir frying.

There are many type of woks available - round- bottomed and flat-bottomed, on- handled and two-handled, mild steel, stainless steel, aluminum, and teflon coated. The most traditional is hand beaten of mild steel with a round bottom and two handles. Mild steel is preferred for its heat transfer properties; thin stamped stainless steel or aluminum just don't hold enough heat, and cast aluminum takes to long to heat upand cool down. The traditional round bottom is designed to sit in theround hole of a charcoal burner. In a modern kitchen equipped with agas stove, the round bottomed wok might fit the burners, depending onthe design of the stove. If the wok does not fit the burners, it may be placed on a wok ring. In an electic kitchen, a flat bottomed wok is best, both for stability and for heat transfer. A properly conditioned iron wok is at least as non-stick as any teflon coating ever made.

A new wok must be seasoned before use. Scrub it well with soap and water to remove any coating applied to protect it during shipping, rinse well, and dry. Place the wok over low heat, wipe lightly with vegetable oil and let stand on the heat for 10 minutes. Cool and wipe with paper towels to remove the dark film. Repeat the oiling, heating, cooling and wiping procedure until the paper towels come away clean. Once a wok has been seasoned, it should be cleaned with plain water only using a wok brush, never with soap or abrasive cleaners, then dried and oiled before storing. If the metal ever rusts, clean with steel wool or fine sand paper and re-season.

I use a wok nearly every day. Aside from some limited use I learned from my mother and grandmother, I mainly learned from my mother-in-law. Properly, most of us know that you go for carbon steel and season it and use peanut oil or some other high smoking point oil, but you don't have to.

Most home cooking is not going to require a restaurant grade fire for your wok. My mother-in-law was a food scientist as well as a good cook. I can't tell you how many health and food related articles she would clip out and stick on the fridge, or how often she would alter cooking methods or ingredients ever so slightly in order to make them healthier according to the latest food science news.

Moral of the story is, if you want to go all out for carbon steel and you have the fire to use it, by all means, go for it. But you can get by decently with the alternatives out there. Use whatever best suits your cooking purposes.

On a daily basis cooking together as a family, we got by with a flat-bottomed, non-stick wok on an old stove with electric burners. No peanut oil but a lot of olive oil, from the big Costco jugs of olive oil or corn oil (for vitamin E).

I miss those days. :smile:


mod note: cleavers, electric pans (yosenabe and sukiyaki), rice cookers, water heaters, steamers

SunWuKong
10-12-2004, 01:42 PM
wait, you used a wok on an electric stove? i thought that doesn't work very well and the point was that the wok makes for good distribution of heat on top of a fire?

we have fire stoves, and we thought about getting a wok, but neither of us know enough of how to cook to really use it (but the few Korean dishes you make are excellent, baby!). i still have a bottle of oyster sauce and hoisin sauce that i haven't opened yet.

deez nuts
10-12-2004, 01:47 PM
wait, you used a wok on an electric stove? i thought that doesn't work very well and the point was that the wok makes for good distribution of heat on top of a fire?

we have fire stoves, and we thought about getting a wok, but neither of us know enough of how to cook to really use it (but the few Korean dishes you make are excellent, baby!). i still have a bottle of oyster sauce and hoisin sauce that i haven't opened yet.

dude. you need a wok.

SunWuKong
10-12-2004, 01:50 PM
dude. you need a wok.

but a regular frying pan has always been fine for the simple frying that i've ever done or know how to do.

kimpossible
10-12-2004, 02:02 PM
wait, you used a wok on an electric stove? i thought that doesn't work very well and the point was that the wok makes for good distribution of heat on top of a fire?


it's not optimal but we weren't fancy eaters that required super high heat. my father-in-law is waaay southern taiwanese and a faan tong (rice bucket) to boot. we usually eat shi fan with a ton of lightly cooked veggies like yo tsai, soup of some sort and another squid/fish/veggie dish. i don't know where my mother-in-law was originally from (she was born out of province) but she mainly stewed meats outside of cooking seafood. curry chicken, san bei ji, nyo ro mien, various things cooked in lu like stomach, heart, liver.

there are some things you absolutely need big fire and a carbon steel wok for. i'm not too familiar with cantonese cooking but i think overall you guys have more complex cooking that requires big heat.

i'll know more if i'm able to go through cooking boot camp with grandma next year. but yeah, we used it on an electric stove, as wrong as that may be. you'd have to ask around a bit more, i think there are a lot of people that can contribute to this topic. i'm hardly the best representative.

but a regular frying pan has always been fine for the simple frying that i've ever done or know how to do.

i use that pretty often too. just a plain old frying pan.

SunWuKong
10-12-2004, 02:10 PM
it's not optimal but we weren't fancy eaters that required super high heat. my father-in-law is waaay southern taiwanese and a faan tong (rice bucket) to boot. we usually eat shi fan with a ton of lightly cooked veggies like yo tsai, soup of some sort and another squid/fish/veggie dish. i don't know where my mother-in-law was originally from (she was born out of province) but she mainly stewed meats outside of cooking seafood. curry chicken, san bei ji, nyo ro mien, various things cooked in lu like stomach, heart, liver.

there are some things you absolutely need big fire and a carbon steel wok for. i'm not too familiar with cantonese cooking but i think overall you guys have more complex cooking that requires big heat.

i'll know more if i'm able to go through cooking boot camp with grandma next year. but yeah, we used it on an electric stove, as wrong as that may be. you'd have to ask around a bit more, i think there are a lot of people that can contribute to this topic. i'm hardly the best representative.


you must teach me how to make san bei ji. please please please. does it take a long time? can it be done with boneless pieces of chicken you can get at the frozen section of the supermarket?

i'm not even sure what "Cantonese" cooking really is. is cha shao (roast pork) specifically Cantonese? i just know what isn't Cantonese or a part of Cantonese cuisine when i see it. my own parents have pretty much invented dishes to cook, i think.

applehead
10-12-2004, 02:27 PM
A new wok must be seasoned before use.

oh. i didn't know this...

i use a wok for almost everything. it's so versatile.
even for boiling water or pasta, it's really handy.
is it a pot or is it a pan?
it's both!!

i cut up just whatever vegetables i have and
just light stir fry it with some soy sauce, minced garlic
and sesame oil.

fossilfuel
10-12-2004, 03:01 PM
Woks are good for deep frying because you can rest fried stuff on the "sides" and let the oil and fat drain down into the center where the rest of the oil is.

I vote turkey baster for the next feature :D

applehead
10-12-2004, 09:01 PM
yeah a wok totally wroks for deep frying!!

(i made a funny).

well, i don't know if this is true
for all woks all maybe it's just mine.
but the only downside is that it's kinda heavy
and it's hard to use only one hand when
trying to transfer the food directly on a plate.
or maybe i'm just a weakling.

deez nuts
10-13-2004, 06:31 AM
but a regular frying pan has always been fine for the simple frying that i've ever done or know how to do.

regardless, you need to train your girl how to make all the chinese dishes that your mother use to make. maybe even have her learn with mother.

eventually she can cook for mother when she gets old.

applehead
10-13-2004, 08:00 AM
oh look at what was in the paper here in nyc this morning.

cooking with woks! (http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-fdcover4003628oct13,0,1823543.story?coll=ny-foodday-headlines)

accompanying recipes. (http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-fdrecipe4003625oct13,0,351874.story?coll=ny-foodday-headlines)

it's a bit of a long article but a very fun read.

classes and events (http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-b4003624oct13,0,1647384.story?coll=ny-foodday-headlines)

seasoning the pot (http://www.newsday.com/features/food/ny-c4003623oct13,0,2106136.story?coll=ny-foodday-headlines)

bigwong235
10-13-2004, 06:03 PM
wait, you used a wok on an electric stove? i thought that doesn't work very well and the point was that the wok makes for good distribution of heat on top of a fire?

if you get one of those flat-bottomed ones, i think they distribute the heat somewhat better.

when i went to canada last year to visit my cousins, i saw this little add-on i'd never seen before. it's just a ring w/a wide base and a narrower top, and you put it right on top of your electric burner. then you can use a round-bottom wok and it sits right on top of the narrow part of the ring.

i use a big flat-bottomed non-stick one. i'd like to try a non non-stick one, cause you can get a better sear on your meat. or so i think...

is maintenence of those big seasoned ones a pain? like having to season it and all.

rice cracker
10-13-2004, 07:03 PM
regardless, you need to train your girl how to make all the chinese dishes that your mother use to make. maybe even have her learn with mother.

eventually she can cook for mother when she gets old.

NO.


Wait, you mean the maid?

yoMAMA
10-13-2004, 10:13 PM
Wok and the big chinese cooking knife are the reasons chinese civilization has lasted longer than anyone else :tongue: