How do you tell if a guy likes you? What's your technique?

[Green_Circle]

I admit most times I am clueless. I wanna know where you gals are coming from. I wanna know how to read the signals if indeed there are any. If a girl smiles at me, does she like me or what? If she stares at me or what exactly do you girls do to get your message out that you're are interested in someone or at least curious and would like to get to know a guy?

[s1eve]

Dude, I think you scared the ladies away ... :biggrin:

[nonamerasian]

I'm told I begin to talk through the guy instead of talking to him. *shrug*

I have no clue what that means.

I don't have a technique, I dun think.

[Green_Circle]

I think some girls like to act coy and disinterested when they're actually all hot n rarin' to go. Other girls may position themselves to be in close proximity to where a guy is hanging out and then proceed to act like nothing's happening.

Dude, I think you scared the ladies away ... :biggrin:


I've posted the same in three different forums, all with nearly identical feedback. I think females aren't as willing as men to discuss the mating/dating game. With females, these are trade secrets to always keep us guessing.
:frown:

[kasia]

unless this question is directed at asian ladies, i'll be closing this thread to prevent the forum from turning into a general relationship advice forum. thanks.

[Hiroshi2]

unless this question is directed at asian ladies, i'll be closing this thread to prevent the forum from turning into a general relationship advice forum. thanks.



What has it been before?

[kasia]

What has it been before?

i don't know. i was asking for a clarification b/c all the responses came from non-asian or non-female members.

[Green_Circle]

Ok then. What methods do asian girls use when they like a guy?

[robotic]

I think some girls like to act coy and disinterested when they're actually all hot n rarin' to go.

after a dracastic change in my confidence and esteem, i began to act more timid, shy and people i often have crushes on are often people i am intimidated by. i will do my best to ignore them, make sure i keep as far as possible, divert my eyes (or divert my attention to things such as looking at my hands, fiddling with the dials on my watch etc.) as soon as they appear etc.

in conclusion, the more i like a person, the more abnormally (confused, quiet, introverted) i tend to behave.

[John0101]

i don't know. i was asking for a clarification b/c all the responses came from non-asian or non-female members.

I thought anyone can partipate in these threads as long as there is constructive converstation. Maybe we should redefine the characteristics of the subsections. I think this is a valid question so maybe you can move this into Sex&Health. Do you want questions under "Women" to be more political?

Anyways back to question at hand. I think the personality and experience is really important in this situation. The more experience you have at approching hot guys the more refined the moves. Personality is probably the biggest factor.

Shy girls usually just get shy, smile and become dumb for about 10mins.

Slutty girls well just act slutty.

Aggressive girls make their moves really pronounced and takes the leadership role.

Most girls don't even try, which is pretty sad because even though I am hot I wouldn't mind being friends with some of those girls.

[Green_Circle]

after a dracastic change in my confidence and esteem, i began to act more timid, shy and people i often have crushes on are often people i am intimidated by. i will do my best to ignore them, make sure i keep as far as possible, divert my eyes (or divert my attention to things such as looking at my hands, fiddling with the dials on my watch etc.) as soon as they appear etc.

in conclusion, the more i like a person, the more abnormally (confused, quiet, introverted) i tend to behave.

Hmm, just wondering if you get intimidated because you have feelings involved or if you are attracted to the sort of person who is 'alpha' type. The ultra outgoing type of person that many may find intimidating. And supposedly, many females find the alpha type to be irrisistable.

Hmm, just wondering if you get intimidated because you have feelings involved or if you are attracted to the sort of person who is 'alpha' type. The ultra outgoing type of person that many may find intimidating. And supposedly, many females find the alpha type to be irrisistable.
Also, what if the guy you are crushing on starts noticing you? Do you still try to ignore him and pretend you don't like him? If he should ask you out or to go and chill with him sometimes, would you go or would you not? Would you encourage his attentions or discourage them?

[robotic]

Hmm, just wondering if you get intimidated because you have feelings involved or if you are attracted to the sort of person who is 'alpha' type. The ultra outgoing type of person that many may find intimidating. And supposedly, many females find the alpha type to be irrisistable.

yes, most usually the alpha type ^_^
i think it's because, in comparison to my personality, they seem perfectly flawless. they are extroverted, friendly, popular and often of an ethnicity/race that i may have admired in the past or one that i may find superior to my own.

in the past, the crushes i've had, have often noticed me too, despite the fact that i show little or no attraction/draw any attention to them and make it as less obvious as possible. quite a few times, i've encountered a crush who has smiled or said a few words or two, but often, this makes me more shy and uncomfortable so i still do my best to ignore and pretend i have no special feelings for them. it's similar to a situation where people tell you that you're nice, or that you're pretty - and once it has escaped from their lips, you know from that day onwards, that you must live upto their word. you have now realized that they don't view you as a meer ink dot on that printed page, and if you ruin your chances, you will never gain their acceptance. if a crush or a person i admire notices me, i fill up with dread, knowing i must live upto the person that they are beginning to notice and trying to understand.

i hope to get more confident with time, and maybe these feelings will pass - for me to go up to them and thank them for being as considerate as they are.

[Green_Circle]

yes, most usually the alpha type ^_^
i think it's because, in comparison to my personality, they seem perfectly flawless. they are extroverted, friendly, popular and often of an ethnicity/race that i may have admired in the past or one that i may find superior to my own.

seeing their flawless complexion or their flawless confidence is sure enough to keep a lot of hearts beating :D


And if the alpha guy asked you out, would you go out with him or would he have to ask about two or three times?

[robotic]

whoops. i think i edited my post a bit too late :X

although no one has asked me out....

i think when the situation pops up, i would want to say yes. but trying to say and saying are two different things sometimes :(

[Green_Circle]

whoops. i think i edited my post a bit too late :X

although no one has asked me out....

i think when the situation pops up, i would want to say yes. but trying to say and saying are two different things sometimes :(

It could be your own radar getting in your way but in these cases it's for good reason. I think, if I may be bold, the alpha type guy (and no offense) is the worst type of guy you could get mixed up with. They tend to be natural born playas who would wreak havoc on your ultra sensitive esteem.
On the other hand there are the strong, silent types who can be extremely sensitive, caring creatures. :redface:

[Pookie_gal]

I don't have a technique as such. If I like someone, I will make eye contact with them and smile. After all, a smile doesn't have to mean anything more than just me being friendly.

Green_Circle, there are no defined ways of knowing if a girl is interested in a guy. If there was, there wouldn't be books/magazine articles/constant discussion on the topic. The main thing is to go with your heart. Some girls will smile and be all touchy-feely, but they may just be acting 'flirty' whereas others will be genuine. You can only tell when you know them well enough. I realise this doesn't help if you're referring to a club/bar situation. In that situation, if they smile and can't take their eyes away from you, or perhaps if they look at you but when you look back, they shyly gaze away, then chances are they do like you but are too shy to do anything.

Hope that helps!

[Pookie_gal]

Was just reading the male version - how do you tell if a girl likes you - and was wondering how girls can tell about guys. How do you know if a guy really likes you and sees you as a potential girlf, or if he just sees you as being a 'friend'?

I'm completely naive to this, and only realise when they make a move on me.

Guys, wanna share any tips? And girls, share! :)

[BigLew]

The truth? You can never really tell cause most guys are liars and cheaters. Any man who disputes me is either unexperienced or lying.

[BigLew]

Green_Circle, there are no defined ways of knowing if a girl is interested in a guy.Yes there is women just lie. When you find the secret out you can live a life of bliss like me Green_Circle.

[rice cracker]

Guy friends that are always seem to be where you are, make plans to be where you will be, smile a lot at you, agree with you all the time. I dunno, in my experience it's been that or else the guy in question will make some overture, and they're not usually subtle.

[BigLew]

Guy friends that are always seem to be where you are, make plans to be where you will be, smile a lot at you, agree with you all the time. I dunno, in my experience it's been that or else the guy in question will make some overture, and they're not usually subtle.See that is because you are used to guys who like you kissing your ass. If I like a girl I make my self less available and do rotten headgame shit like canceling dates and only returning 1 out of every 3 phone calls. But I still let the girl know that I like her so it confuses the shit out of her.

Yes, I am a rotten bastard. But I am successful!

[deez nuts]

See that is because you are used to guys who like you kissing your ass. If I like a girl I make my self less available and do rotten headgame shit like canceling dates and only returning 1 out of every 3 phone calls. But I still let the girl know that I like her so it confuses the shit out of her.

Yes, I am a rotten bastard. But I am successful!

now that's []D[][]\/[][]D!!

[bluemonq]

of course, there's still always the tongue-tiedness and blushing. oldies but goodies.

[BigLew]

of course, there's still always the tongue-tiedness and blushing. oldies but goodies.The lost puppy dog charm only lasts for so long. Then you get filed away in the little brother/freindboy category.

[bluemonq]

that's beside the point... she asked "How do you tell if a guy likes you?"; she didn't specify what stage of romantic experience the guy is at, didn't specify what the girl would think afterwards. this is always a possibility, so i was just mentioning it. i never said it was good idea.

[BigLew]

that's beside the point... she asked "How do you tell if a guy likes you?"; she didn't specify what stage of romantic experience the guy is at, didn't specify what the girl would think afterwards. this is always a possibility, so i was just mentioning it. i never said it was good idea.Well I didn't say it was a bad idea. Even if I suggested it, doesn't mean I know what the hell I am talking about.

Man I am on role with making people respond in bold today!

[Green_Circle]

I don't have a technique as such. If I like someone, I will make eye contact with them and smile. After all, a smile doesn't have to mean anything more than just me being friendly.

Green_Circle, there are no defined ways of knowing if a girl is interested in a guy. If there was, there wouldn't be books/magazine articles/constant discussion on the topic. The main thing is to go with your heart. Some girls will smile and be all touchy-feely, but they may just be acting 'flirty' whereas others will be genuine. You can only tell when you know them well enough. I realise this doesn't help if you're referring to a club/bar situation. In that situation, if they smile and can't take their eyes away from you, or perhaps if they look at you but when you look back, they shyly gaze away, then chances are they do like you but are too shy to do anything.

Hope that helps!


Thanks for the input and yes it does help. The biggest help was when you didn't squash me like a grape. How about befriending a girl friend of the target girl? Maybe that way the 411 will be more forthcoming? Of course the danger in that is if the girl friend goes back and tells the girl that so and so was asking around if you liked him. uh oh, busted!

But anyway, in a more typical situation out in public, where you don't know her or any mutual friends, seems you girls like to cover your tracks a lot, eh? Why all the mystery and ambiguity? :confused:

[Hiroshi2]

voice gets deeper, shows out around you, etc.

[TB4000]

BigLew coming with the cynical world views up in this biatch. Though he does have a point, we're not entirely honest about our intentions. Too many of us are just about fucking, and our advances as far as just wanting sex or actually wanting a serious relationship aren't different enough to be able to tell.

[Kris]

biglew is pretty much dead on IMO. when i'm looking for a girl, the steps i take dont differ from when when i want a one night stand or a relationship. its the same shit. go up to her, let her know youre interested and see how far you can get. the main purpose , GET THE GIRL. no need to change the game.

[applehead]

See that is because you are used to guys who like you kissing your ass. If I like a girl I make my self less available and do rotten headgame shit like canceling dates and only returning 1 out of every 3 phone calls. But I still let the girl know that I like her so it confuses the shit out of her.

Yes, I am a rotten bastard. But I am successful!


i can't believe you go through all that trouble
just to get a girl.
i'm sorry but if it's a girl worth getting serious with
she won't tolerate shit like that.
you guys are sad.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

See that is because you are used to guys who like you kissing your ass. If I like a girl I make my self less available and do rotten headgame shit like canceling dates and only returning 1 out of every 3 phone calls. But I still let the girl know that I like her so it confuses the shit out of her.

Yes, I am a rotten bastard. But I am successful!

We must be related. Well actually that's what I do too but not so much because I like doing it, it's just because it's been engrained into my mind that since women naturally like to play games (according to my female friends), the only way to counter is to play your own game. :frown: In the end however no matter what I try, if I like the girl a lotta times I can't help coming across like some stupid grinning bumbling idiot doormat.

[PropellerheadCP]

I don't know a single guy (myself included) who's actually subtle, when he like a girl. I mean we try to be, but it's pretty obvious, whether we like it or not.

How do girls know if a guy likes you?
- they want to spend time with you... alone if possible
- they act funny, when you talk about a cute guy that you saw
- they don't EVER tell you that you're like a sister or something like that
- they actually pay attention to what you like/dislike

3 out of 4 usually means that the dude likes you. There's more that I can add, but the above are pretty darn common.

[Hiroshi2]

i can't believe you go through all that trouble
just to get a girl.
i'm sorry but if it's a girl worth getting serious with
she won't tolerate shit like that.
you guys are sad.




Oh no, the shit actually works. I remember I was real interested in this girl and she seemed to be sorta interested in me. So I made a point to at least speak to her every day, you know wave, smile, say hey, something. But after a while, she got less enthusiastic and we both just kinda ignored each other for like three or four weeks. Didn't speak, didn't talk, didn't wave, didn't make eye contact. Would walk right by each other without saying shit. Then one day I just walked up behind and her and spoke to her and she seemed so happy to see me, it was crazy. We didn't get to talk cause we had to go class, but still....................it's like soon as I backed up off the gas and then came back and said something to her, she had that same enthuisasism.

[DragonKnight]

Was just reading the male version - how do you tell if a girl likes you - and was wondering how girls can tell about guys. How do you know if a guy really likes you and sees you as a potential girlf, or if he just sees you as being a 'friend'?

I'm completely naive to this, and only realise when they make a move on me.

Guys, wanna share any tips? And girls, share! :) Hrm, if she gots decent looks, a good attitude, is single, and there isn't that much of an age difference...I'll probably take that girl into consideration. I personally don't remember much of what signs I show cause I've been known to hide my feelings pretty well. But I think I act like a total klutz around a girl I like. I'll also talk to her often on the phone, unless that girl is already a VERY close friend in my inner circle. Other than those, another way to find out is to bug my friends. They're more likely to clue you in. :tongue:

Now as for girls liking me back...that's a whole different situation. :frown:

[artsfartsyjanet]

i can never tell if a guy likes me until they tell me.

[BigLew]

i can't believe you go through all that trouble
just to get a girl.
i'm sorry but if it's a girl worth getting serious with
she won't tolerate shit like that.
you guys are sad.But see that's just it. It's no trouble for me at all for the simple fact that I can't help it because it has become my natural behavior. I speak truth! Even if it is ugly...

Oh no, the shit actually works. I remember I was real interested in this girl and she seemed to be sorta interested in me. So I made a point to at least speak to her every day, you know wave, smile, say hey, something. But after a while, she got less enthusiastic and we both just kinda ignored each other for like three or four weeks. Didn't speak, didn't talk, didn't wave, didn't make eye contact. Would walk right by each other without saying shit. Then one day I just walked up behind and her and spoke to her and she seemed so happy to see me, it was crazy. We didn't get to talk cause we had to go class, but still....................it's like soon as I backed up off the gas and then came back and said something to her, she had that same enthuisasism.Just like I said in the de-attracting thread want to get rid of a girl let her thing you are uncontrollably gaga over her. Hey I don't make the rules women do.

[Hiroshi2]

Hey I don't make the rules women do.






HAHAHAHAHA. Yeah. They really do.

[stunninglyAsian]

Playing hot and cold- it works. You basically drive the girl to madness with conflicting signals and feelings. And then when she can't take it anymore, well this is key, timing is everything here: the guy either reveals her feelings or she confronts him. I can't say the quality of girls you get will be good, but you date a whole lot more often than just being nice.

Me, I should act all calm and cool. But I can't. My emotions always get the better of me and I, as my friends say, put the girl up on a pedastal because in my eyes she can do no wrong. And if you take a look at my dating record, well, it just flat out does not work. The worst part of it is that I cannot get distant from a girl I like. I have to think about her, love the way she dresses, talks, smiles, everything. If you can act distant and do all that stuff, then why bother dating her? I kinda feel like there's noting special about the girl if that can happen.

Unfortunately, passion and emotion signal a desperate individual.

[missmeow]

I can't tell unless he tells me too.

I'm really confused by this one guy who always says, "is that your boyfriend?" whenever I answer the phone but then he tells me to hook up with some other guy who likes me. He also gives me google eyes, but I'm like wtf?

[TB4000]

Putting the girl on a pedestal = doormat status. I learned that in high school, man. It may not always apply, but it happened so often I just became jaded towards it.

[bluemonq]

I can't tell unless he tells me too.

I'm really confused by this one guy who always says, "is that your boyfriend?" whenever I answer the phone but then he tells me to hook up with some other guy who likes me. He also gives me google eyes, but I'm like wtf?
methinks he's hoping you'll notice him. he wants you to say something first, so if nothing ever happens, it's not "him being rejected." any takers?

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Putting the girl on a pedestal = doormat status. I learned that in high school, man. It may not always apply, but it happened so often I just became jaded towards it.

That's so true. It's not something I WANT to believe, but I feel as if I've been forced to believe it over the years. Ultimately it's not about how 'nice' or 'bad' you are, contrary to people saying 'nice guys finish last'. I think it's all about interest and mystery. Doormats are boring period, as are many 'nice' guys who just do everything the girl says and follow her around like a puppy dog. 'Bad' guys are more interesting simply because they are more unpredictable and usually more enthusiastic with more personality. It has nothing really to do with girls liking guys to be 'dickheads' as opposed to 'gentlemen' in my opinion. Fortunately me personally I think it's definitely possible to be both 'interesting' and also not an asshole.

[truMp]

Don't trust any guy who acts strange around you; except for me. ;)

[Pookie_gal]

Wah...so many responses. Now I just gotta sieve through them all. ;)

See? You guys are SO confusing. Some say the guy will act shy/blush a lot, others say that he'll ignore the girl. And you wonder why you have trouble trying to work us out? It's 'cos you guys play mind-games with us.

Hiroshi2, did that work? Did you go out with her?

MissMeow, methinks he does like you, but isn't ready to tell you so. He's hoping that you'll just notice him as a potential boyf, rather than just a friend, but maybe doesn't want to ruin your friendship by telling you that he does like you.

Stunninglyasian, I know a lot of guys who'll put the girl they like up on a pedestal. Unfortunately, it normally ends up with them being hurt 'cos the girl knows and will use it to her advantage. Girls admire and respect a guy who's strong emotionally and physically, and if a guy is letting a girl walk all over him, then it doesn't say much for his state of mind, does it?

DragonKnight, you don't ask for much, do ya? :p So how old are ya? ;)

Propellerhead, good advice. So what does it mean when a guy calls you out but to go out as a group? Also, when he does nice things for me, I thank him, to which he replies, 'I'll do it for any friend'. There was 1 stage when he contacted/saw me everyday one week, when I was alone at home, but he never tried anything. Just being very caring.

BigLew, so do you keep check of the calls/texts? "right, this is the 2nd, I'm gonna ignore the 3rd and 4th". hehe :)

[Pookie_gal]

LOL! BigLew, you're funny. So what's your secret? ;)

Befriending a girl friend of target girl can backfire hugely. What if girl friend thinks you like her? Or what if she realises that you're just using her to get to her friend? Then she'll badmouth you and warn her mate off ya. Not a good idea. Best thing is just to be direct. Don't look at it like getting a girlf/relationship - look at it like meeting a new friend. If things move along, then go with the flow. If she's not interested, then at least you've made a good friend out of it - and who knows, maybe she's got some pretty friends! :)

[moser]

^ Guess it means it depends on the guy.

And, potential dumb butt question, but wtf does it mean when a guy asks "let's hang out" (many many times)? Is it just to hang out as friends or a wimpy way to ask for a date?

[Tao]

^ Guess it means it depends on the guy.

And, potential dumb butt question, but wtf does it mean when a guy asks "let's hang out" (many many times)? Is it just to hang out as friends or a wimpy way to ask for a date?
wimpy way to ask for a date

[Hiroshi2]

Hiroshi2, did that work? Did you go out with her?







no, we're just "friends". Friends who flirt w/ each other and i have a feeling we both have always "felt" something for each other, but we never acted on it, cause she had other boys she was interested in, i had other things going on, plus other girls I was interested in...........................i have a funny feeling we both really like each other but never say it though. it's kinda awkward, but i don't see her much as i used to, so whatever.

[mrazntre]

DragonKnight, you don't ask for much, do ya? :p So how old are ya? ;)



since i told DK that i'd find him a woman.... I'll answer for him.
I'm his woman agent.

Rich is a nice guy, he wants to know how old you are.

[Tao]

since i told DK that i'd find him a woman.... I'll answer for him.
I'm his woman agent.

Rich is a nice guy, he wants to know how old you are.
dude, she's in london

[stunninglyAsian]

Stunninglyasian, I know a lot of guys who'll put the girl they like up on a pedestal. Unfortunately, it normally ends up with them being hurt 'cos the girl knows and will use it to her advantage. Girls admire and respect a guy who's strong emotionally and physically, and if a guy is letting a girl walk all over him, then it doesn't say much for his state of mind, does it?

But I don't want to treat the girl badly now and then to keep her interested. If she doesn't like me, then what's the point? Why do I have to pursue somebody that I have to psychologically trick to like me? I hate advice that says ignore every two calls, treat her poorly twice a week, at least one day on the weekend and one weekday, have a girl call you when you are with her and announce your plans to hang out with her over the phone, etc. That's stupid and I feel like I'm conning her. Is that what girls really are like? You can't possible tell me that is the way to a girl's heart. To me, that is just tricking a girl into liking you, if you do that, then you might as well get her drunk over a bottle of wine during a "romantic" date and take advantage of her physically as well. It's the same thing.

On the flip side, you can also say that a woman who takes advantage of that doesn't say much for her state of mind either.

[Fireblade]

Feel the bulge in his pants. If it's hard, he likes you at that moment. If not, then he obviously doesn't like you at all. But the consequences of what may happen after you cop a feel are totally out anyone's hands. Risk at your own caution.

[BigLew]

But I don't want to treat the girl badly now and then to keep her interested. If she doesn't like me, then what's the point?
Who said anything about treating her badly? All joking aside, we don't get to decide what a woman wants. So it is arrogant for anyone to say that as if they get to decide what someone else wants. Those are the same assholes that call someone like me a player or womanizer. I treat women with respect.

Why do I have to pursue somebody that I have to psychologically trick to like me? I hate advice that says ignore every two calls, treat her poorly twice a week, at least one day on the weekend and one weekday, have a girl call you when you are with her and announce your plans to hang out with her over the phone, etc.Again, all joking aside I was joking about counting phone calls, but I am a busy guy who has my own life so yes I am not always available. Does it make me disrespectful that I won't drop everything I am doing to pander to woman? Do you realy think a woman wants a guy who has no life outside her? Do you realy think they want someone who has so little self respect that they are willing to drop everything in their own agenda for her? How am I tricking a woman by showing her that I am stable, strong and enjoy my own life with or without her?

On the flip side, you can also say that a woman who takes advantage of that doesn't say much for her state of mind either.I think it's more important to question yourself then be bitter about how some women can be.

[applehead]

Oh no, the shit actually works. I remember I was real interested in this girl and she seemed to be sorta interested in me. So I made a point to at least speak to her every day, you know wave, smile, say hey, something. But after a while, she got less enthusiastic and we both just kinda ignored each other for like three or four weeks. Didn't speak, didn't talk, didn't wave, didn't make eye contact. Would walk right by each other without saying shit. Then one day I just walked up behind and her and spoke to her and she seemed so happy to see me, it was crazy. We didn't get to talk cause we had to go class, but still....................it's like soon as I backed up off the gas and then came back and said something to her, she had that same enthuisasism.

that's kinda different from big lew's
tactics.

Who said anything about treating her badly? All joking aside, we don't get to decide what a woman wants. So it is arrogant for anyone to say that as if they get to decide what someone else wants. Those are the same assholes that call someone like me a player or womanizer. I treat women with respect.

Again, all joking aside I was joking about counting phone calls, but I am a busy guy who has my own life so yes I am not always available. Does it make me disrespectful that I won't drop everything I am doing to pander to woman? Do you realy think a woman wants a guy who has no life outside her? Do you realy think they want someone who has so little self respect that they are willing to drop everything in their own agenda for her? How am I tricking a woman by showing her that I am stable, strong and enjoy my own life with or without her?

I think it's more important to question yourself then be bitter about how some women can be.

no but you're like purposely playing headgames
with her... that ain't cool.
but i don't know. i've never done that.
and i don't know if i've been a victim of that.
but with something like that, do you really think
any meaningful relationship can develop in such
an environment?
you might feel like you treat women with respect
but will a girl who later became privy to your ways
say the samething?

[BigLew]

that's kinda different from big lew's
tactics.



no but you're like purposely playing headgames
with her... that ain't cool.
but i don't know. i've never done that.
and i don't know if i've been a victim of that.
but with something like that, do you really think
any meaningful relationship can develop in such
an environment?
you might feel like you treat women with respect
but will a girl who later became privy to your ways
say the samething?I speak to jokingly sometimes, but in all seriousness if a woman can't respect me for who I am and can't respect that my time is mine and is valuable to me isn't the woman for me. It's just as much of a headgame when a woman tries to change my ways because she thinks that I should be on her schedule and not mine. At the same time I don't want a woman who doesn't have respect for herself. But the time that I do spend with a woman (romantically involved that is) my full attention is on her. If a woman sees this as an ulterior agenda and decides that she is not into me because of it, then oh well I move on. That kind of controlling attitude or power struggle is not my idea of a good relationship either.

[applehead]

true that brotha.

[golden_buns]

I hate advice that says ignore every two calls, treat her poorly twice a week, at least one day on the weekend and one weekday, have a girl call you when you are with her and announce your plans to hang out with her over the phone, etc. That's stupid and I feel like I'm conning her. Is that what girls really are like? You can't possible tell me that is the way to a girl's heart. To me, that is just tricking a girl into liking you, if you do that, then you might as well get her drunk over a bottle of wine during a "romantic" date and take advantage of her physically as well. It's the same thing.

On the flip side, you can also say that a woman who takes advantage of that doesn't say much for her state of mind either.

I think when women say they want a nice, thoughtful, and sweet guy, they're talking in terms of how they see you in the long run, after you guys have dated for quite some time, and she averages the number of time you've fucked up with the number of times you were 'all that'.

Being nice, sweet, thoughtful, and sweet, callinng her 24/7 responding to her every need, being there for her all the time, etc, etc... in the short run, just shows that you have no life nor goals other than being with her and that can be suffocating.

So I think what BigLew meant was that, you don't make the girl the ONLY priority in your life. And you keep living your life, pursuing your goals, hanging out with your firends, and doing the things you have to do, which can end up in sometimes ignoring her calls, forgetting valentine's day, etc, bc you were too busy at work or school, or you were having a couple of drinks with your buds.

I don't think it's about pretending to be an ass all the time. But just about living you own life.

[applehead]

so people. big lew is not a jerk.
he was just joking.
kekekekekeke

:biggrin:

[BigLew]

so people. big lew is not a jerk.
he was just joking.
kekekekekeke

:biggrin:
Yes I am but I am good at playing the fence. LOL :biggrin:

Oiy...I don't know when to quit do I...

[DragonKnight]

DragonKnight, you don't ask for much, do ya? :p So how old are ya? ;) Click on my profile to find out more about me. Feel free to PM/IM me if you wanna know more. :wink:

since i told DK that i'd find him a woman.... I'll answer for him.
I'm his woman agent. Lol, woman agent?! :eek:

[mrazntre]

dude, she's in london

love has no boundaries, plus, she asked first! :biggrin:

true that brotha.

sometimes I really wonder if you're a man.

[amietron]

he makes time to be with you- assorted dates only for 2.

[Kuchana]

Click on my profile to find out more about me. Feel free to PM/IM me if you wanna know more. :wink:

Hook up time! :biggrin: .......*wondering if DragonKnight is going to buy a first-class ticket to London* Actually on second thought, maybe mrazntre oughta pay for it! :tongue:




Back on topic, from my own experience if he's enjoying himself with you and you both are smiling/laughing and there's obviously a sense of intimacy between you and him.

[BigLew]

Befriending a girl friend of target girl can backfire hugely. What if girl friend thinks you like her? Or what if she realises that you're just using her to get to her friend? Then she'll badmouth you and warn her mate off ya.Well I tend to leave a lot up to interpretation and not let there be much room for concrete conclusions. This can be confusing and it usually backfires because women in relationships with me always think I am or have the potential to be a cheater. Maybe I am just to comfortable around women. At any rate, I never lie about where I stand and never lie about intentions.

[mrazntre]

Hook up time! :biggrin: .......*wondering if DragonKnight is going to buy a first-class ticket to London* Actually on second thought, maybe mrazntre oughta pay for it! :tongue:




Back on topic, from my own experience if he's enjoying himself with you and you both are smiling/laughing and there's obviously a sense of intimacy between you and him.

as long as my 50% commission is greater than the cost of the ticket. i'll hook it up.

So.... Pookie_Girl... how are you acting know ?

[Pookie_gal]

LOL! Woman agents/pimps! What are they like?! :p
Poor DK - he's managed to get himself an extortionate 'woman agent'!!! :D

Stunninglyasian, I didn't say anything about treating her bad. Strike a balance - don't put her on a pedestal 'cos many woman can't handle that - it's too much pressure for us. But at the same time, don't be mean to her. Treat her like a close friend. Girls who *do* take advantage of your kindness and generosity are stoopid, but you'll find out in time what sort of girl she is. If she is deserving of your love, then you'll know soon enough.

As for playing mindgames, I totally disagree with them. They don't work, and even if they do, it's not a very good start to the relationship, is it? I mean, what do they say about your state of mind?

[golden_buns]

As for playing mindgames, I totally disagree with them. They don't work, and even if they do, it's not a very good start to the relationship, is it? I mean, what do they say about your state of mind?

Nobody said anything about mind games, we were talking about not making that girl your #1 priority in life (not putting her on a pedestal, in your words)

[DragonKnight]

LOL! Woman agents/pimps! What are they like?! :p
Poor DK - he's managed to get himself an extortionate 'woman agent'!!! :D
...who wants commission. *groan*

As for playing mindgames, I totally disagree with them. They don't work, and even if they do, it's not a very good start to the relationship, is it? I mean, what do they say about your state of mind? You're cool. Mindgames suck.

[achtungbaby]

Merged with the other thread on how to overanalyze guys...

[mrazntre]

LOL! Woman agents/pimps! What are they like?! :p
Poor DK - he's managed to get himself an extortionate 'woman agent'!!! :D

Stunninglyasian, I didn't say anything about treating her bad. Strike a balance - don't put her on a pedestal 'cos many woman can't handle that - it's too much pressure for us. But at the same time, don't be mean to her. Treat her like a close friend. Girls who *do* take advantage of your kindness and generosity are stoopid, but you'll find out in time what sort of girl she is. If she is deserving of your love, then you'll know soon enough.

As for playing mindgames, I totally disagree with them. They don't work, and even if they do, it's not a very good start to the relationship, is it? I mean, what do they say about your state of mind?


So are we close yet? Let's not play mindgames because those are childish and accomplish nothing more than added confusion to both parties.

DK is a man. You're a woman. Bada bing bada boom. It's gotta be easy. C'mon. Let's make this happen, right here, right now. I needz to get paid.

[Pookie_gal]

So are we close yet? Let's not play mindgames because those are childish and accomplish nothing more than added confusion to both parties.

DK is a man. You're a woman. Bada bing bada boom. It's gotta be easy. C'mon. Let's make this happen, right here, right now. I needz to get paid.

LOL @ mrazntre! You make me laugh... Btw, do you have a white lounge suit and matching white loafer shoes? And some bling? :)

Sorry for the late reply - had a long weekend in Chicago, and didn't realise that my thread had merged with another.

[so_fee_ahh]

LOL @ mrazntre! You make me laugh... Btw, do you have a white lounge suit and matching white loafer shoes? And some bling? :)

Sorry for the late reply - had a long weekend in Chicago, and didn't realise that my thread had merged with another.

Of course he does...he's a [p] [i] [m] [p]. But NO bling...I stole 'em all. Finders keepers...losers weepers! :tongue:

[mrazntre]

Of course he does...he's a [p] [i] [m] [p]. But NO bling...I stole 'em all. Finders keepers...losers weepers! :tongue:


good thing those were from a cracker jack box. :biggrin:

LOL @ mrazntre! You make me laugh... Btw, do you have a white lounge suit and matching white loafer shoes? And some bling? :)

Sorry for the late reply - had a long weekend in Chicago, and didn't realise that my thread had merged with another.

pookie: i'm serious. i'm dead broke and Rich is going to pay handsomely. Next trip you're coming to L.A. screw Chicago. I can chauffer, just hold on cuz I drive like Sohlberg in Greece. I can also make draw up the dinner plan. hut hut hike!

Rich. where you at dogg?

[kasia]

looks like we're wayyyy off topic. closing.